Re: Problems getting Etch in France
Am 2008-07-21 22:17:39, schrieb Nigel Henry: The only place I can find in France that has Etch DVD's available, wants payment via paypal, and Visa. I have neither, only my local banks Carte Bleue. Do you want pressed DVD's or burned? I have the three DVD's here in Strasbourg and I can burn it and send it to you if you are willing to pay the DVD's + Frais d'envoi. Tu peu payer directement sur mon compte à la Banque Postale. En suit, dans quelque yours j'offre un achat de tout les CD/DVD via ma site Web. I sell generaly in Germany and France but also Europe/Worldwide. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator 24V Electronic Engineer Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 +49/177/935194750, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi +33/6/61925193 67100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
Re: Problems getting Etch in France
The Tuesday 22 July 2008 22:38:17 thveillon.debian, you wrote : elijah r. wrote : Debian Etch ISO images are available for download, completely free, via the internet, just like those Fedora ISO's you are downloading. I highly recommend you get the single Debian NetInstall ISO. Since you are using a Dial-Up connection, this will be the fastest way to install Debian. On a side note, what kinds of problems were you running into when installing other distros? I had problems installing most distros on a computer I built that was using a motherboard with a VIA C3 processor, which is missing the CMOV instruction that some 686 binaries are compiled with. Cheers, Elijah Do you know ikarios ? http://www.ikarios.com/p374-Debian.html hth. -- Gérard Well Ikarios have what I want, but only will accept payment by chéque bancaire, and I can't use my carte bleue for paying online. This is incredible in the 21st century. I have to write out a cheque, get on my bike, and ride 20 mins to the post office, perhaps stand in a queue for 20 mins to buy a stamp (un timbre), then post it. 10 days later I may receive my Debian disks. I give up. I have built a new machine, and have had problems with installing Fedfora 8, Archlinux, and Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon (7.10). Having got these distro's installed, I want to get Debian Etch installed. I only have Woody 3.0.r2 discs, and don't want to go through the hassle of upgrading to Sarge, then Etch, along with the transition from xfree86 to xorg again. Oh to hell with Debian. I have Sarge, Etch, and Lenny on another machine, and really wanted to see if there were problems installing Etch on my new machine, where I've had problems installing other distros. N. Maybe you could have posted on the French user mailing list, maybe there's someone in your area. I'll be in France (west) next week, if you can give me a postal target (to my private mail of course !) I'll send you a couple of spare iso's for Etch and Lenny (I have multi-arch Lenny and Etch). It would work out faster than Ikarios, and I only require payment in fake monopoly® bills ... ;-) Don't you have a LUG in your area ? Tom Where do you live in France ? I live in Paris so I can give you CD I've downloaded on the net. You can also find Debian CD in events like RMLL and Solution linux. You can also check in some specialized magazines. Reguards -- Thomas Preud'homme Why debian : http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems getting Etch in France
On Tuesday 22 July 2008 21:52, elijah r. wrote: Debian Etch ISO images are available for download, completely free, via the internet, just like those Fedora ISO's you are downloading. I highly recommend you get the single Debian NetInstall ISO. Since you are using a Dial-Up connection, this will be the fastest way to install Debian. On a side note, what kinds of problems were you running into when installing other distros? I had problems installing most distros on a computer I built that was using a motherboard with a VIA C3 processor, which is missing the CMOV instruction that some 686 binaries are compiled with. Cheers, Elijah Hi Elijah. I think that I'll go ahead and download the 1st cd iso, and see if it boots ok on this new machine with the Asus M2N-X Plus mobo. As your regards your question above. The first problem was that I had to disable ACPI in the BIOS, as neither install disks or live cd's would boot before doing that. Fedora 8 then installed ok, but post install wouldn't completely boot up, and got stuck at starting service ip6tables, and rebooting into runlevel 1, it got stuck at cpu frequency scaling (I think the messages said not supported in kernel). Rebooted, doing an interactive startup, and said No to a whole bunch of services starting, and then the bootup ran to completion. Kubuntu 7.10 was more of a problem. It would bootup as far as starting KDM, then it obviously was trying to startx, and present the KDM splash screen, but all I got was a black screen, with a mouse pointer, but everything was locked up, no mouse movement, no keyboard, the whole machine had just stopped, and I had to do a hard reset. After some time, and trying various incantations on the kernel line, I eventually removed the part which said force-vesa, and added acpi=off. Enter, then it booted up, and tried to startx a couple of times, then dropped me to the command line. Tried, just for fun, startx, and it logged me straight in to KDE, with no problems. Now Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon 7.10, is live cd, but when booted up, has a desktop icon to install to harddrive, and I was able to install it ok, but still have to append the kernel line, with acpi=off, otherwise when booting up it locks everthing up when it gets as far as opening the KDM splash screen, needs a hard reset. Kubuntu Breezy installed ok, and I have all the updates for upgrading to Dapper on another harddrive. Having upgraded it, I tried booting with the later 2.6.15-52-386 kernel (the Dapper one), and again it got stuck at opening the KDM splashscreen. I rebooted it appending the kernel line to boot into runlevel 3, as I wanted to check any messages, as to what the problem might be. It didn't boot into runlevel 3, but strangely opened the KDM splashscreen, and I was able to login ok. Adding 3 to the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst, it now boots up ok, but all a bit weird. All of this is why I need at least the 1st i386 cd for Etch, so that I can see any similar problems on this new machine, when trying to install Etch. I don't know if the netinstall cd would do. Does it use the same installer, as on the 1st i386 cd for Etch? Thanks folks, for all the suggestions, and many apologies for anything I said yesterday. Nigel. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems getting Etch in France
On Wed,23.Jul.08, 16:09:34, Nigel Henry wrote: I don't know if the netinstall cd would do. Does it use the same installer, as on the 1st i386 cd for Etch? AFAIK yes. You should read the FAQ at http://www.debian.org/CD/faq Also, if you have troubles booting you can try the LennyBeta2 installer which can also install etch-and-a-half (etch with kernel 2.6.24). Another advantage of the netinst is that you don't need to download the full CD1 .iso and then find out it doesn't boot ;) (though it can still be usefull to get packages from it) Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Problems getting Etch in France
On Wednesday 23 July 2008 10:09:34 am Nigel Henry wrote: On Tuesday 22 July 2008 21:52, elijah r. wrote: Debian Etch ISO images are available for download, completely free, via the internet, just like those Fedora ISO's you are downloading. I highly recommend you get the single Debian NetInstall ISO. Since you are using a Dial-Up connection, this will be the fastest way to install Debian. On a side note, what kinds of problems were you running into when installing other distros? I had problems installing most distros on a computer I built that was using a motherboard with a VIA C3 processor, which is missing the CMOV instruction that some 686 binaries are compiled with. Cheers, Elijah Hi Elijah. I think that I'll go ahead and download the 1st cd iso, and see if it boots ok on this new machine with the Asus M2N-X Plus mobo. As your regards your question above. The first problem was that I had to disable ACPI in the BIOS, as neither install disks or live cd's would boot before doing that. Fedora 8 then installed ok, but post install wouldn't completely boot up, and got stuck at starting service ip6tables, and rebooting into runlevel 1, it got stuck at cpu frequency scaling (I think the messages said not supported in kernel). Rebooted, doing an interactive startup, and said No to a whole bunch of services starting, and then the bootup ran to completion. Kubuntu 7.10 was more of a problem. It would bootup as far as starting KDM, then it obviously was trying to startx, and present the KDM splash screen, but all I got was a black screen, with a mouse pointer, but everything was locked up, no mouse movement, no keyboard, the whole machine had just stopped, and I had to do a hard reset. After some time, and trying various incantations on the kernel line, I eventually removed the part which said force-vesa, and added acpi=off. Enter, then it booted up, and tried to startx a couple of times, then dropped me to the command line. Tried, just for fun, startx, and it logged me straight in to KDE, with no problems. Now Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon 7.10, is live cd, but when booted up, has a desktop icon to install to harddrive, and I was able to install it ok, but still have to append the kernel line, with acpi=off, otherwise when booting up it locks everthing up when it gets as far as opening the KDM splash screen, needs a hard reset. Kubuntu Breezy installed ok, and I have all the updates for upgrading to Dapper on another harddrive. Having upgraded it, I tried booting with the later 2.6.15-52-386 kernel (the Dapper one), and again it got stuck at opening the KDM splashscreen. I rebooted it appending the kernel line to boot into runlevel 3, as I wanted to check any messages, as to what the problem might be. It didn't boot into runlevel 3, but strangely opened the KDM splashscreen, and I was able to login ok. Adding 3 to the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst, it now boots up ok, but all a bit weird. All of this is why I need at least the 1st i386 cd for Etch, so that I can see any similar problems on this new machine, when trying to install Etch. I don't know if the netinstall cd would do. Does it use the same installer, as on the 1st i386 cd for Etch? Thanks folks, for all the suggestions, and many apologies for anything I said yesterday. Nigel. At least in English (US) we have a saying, Been there, done that!. I have been (in the distant past) very upset at Linux. In reality, it was closed source firmware/drivers and cut rate manufactures who built a machine to windows specs *only* that was making me frustrated. I think the netinstall does use the same installer, so it will work or not. I would only install the base and only the base system. When the Software selection ncurses screen comes up deslect all but the system (I think that is the right name for it, no Desktop, no *server, you may want to select Laptop. Then modify your sources list to point to testing, update, then aptitude safe-upgrade, if all goes well, then aptitude full-upgrade. THEN and ONLY THEN would I run tasksel and pick Desktop environment. Here is my rational: you are running what would appear to be very new hardware (are very badly designed older hardware, same effect) and Testing will have newer drivers (in the kernel) better able to handle it. If the installer will not even work for you (a possibility) then if you want Debian, you will need an installer that will install testing or sid (Sidux will install Sid). You can find these by googleing for debian installer. There are many different third party installers that will install testing or sid or have different kernels for difficult machines. Sidux is the only one I am currently familiar with. You might want to cut to the chase and download that. http://sidux.com/ Sidux IS Debian Sid with a few custom scripts that try to prevent you from installing buggy software that will turn
Re: Problems getting Etch in France
I don't know if the netinstall cd would do. Does it use the same installer, as on the 1st i386 cd for Etch? I am pretty sure it is exactly the same, but it grabs installation packages from the internet instead of from the local CD/DVDs. Also, I wasn't sure whether you had tried passing the acpi=off parameter to installation bootloaders, or just to the bootloaders on your hard disk after installation. I've had some issues with certain motherboards not even booting off of installation CD/DVDs unless I pass something like acpi=off noapic to the boot options. So, if the boot prompt for some installation CD is is boot: you usually just type linux acpi=off noapic or vmlinuz acpi=off noapic or something along those lines. As for the other issues you have had, such as with KDM working/not working and the runlevels failing, they seem erratic, which many times can be hardware-related. What kind of processor do you have? Have you run memtest on your memory? Have you tested your hard disk to make sure it doesn't have bad blocks or other errors? Cheers, Elijah -- http://elijahr.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems getting Etch in France
The Wednesday 23 July 2008 16:41:38 Damon L. Chesser, you wrote : On Wednesday 23 July 2008 10:09:34 am Nigel Henry wrote: On Tuesday 22 July 2008 21:52, elijah r. wrote: Debian Etch ISO images are available for download, completely free, via the internet, just like those Fedora ISO's you are downloading. I highly recommend you get the single Debian NetInstall ISO. Since you are using a Dial-Up connection, this will be the fastest way to install Debian. On a side note, what kinds of problems were you running into when installing other distros? I had problems installing most distros on a computer I built that was using a motherboard with a VIA C3 processor, which is missing the CMOV instruction that some 686 binaries are compiled with. Cheers, Elijah Hi Elijah. I think that I'll go ahead and download the 1st cd iso, and see if it boots ok on this new machine with the Asus M2N-X Plus mobo. As your regards your question above. The first problem was that I had to disable ACPI in the BIOS, as neither install disks or live cd's would boot before doing that. Fedora 8 then installed ok, but post install wouldn't completely boot up, and got stuck at starting service ip6tables, and rebooting into runlevel 1, it got stuck at cpu frequency scaling (I think the messages said not supported in kernel). Rebooted, doing an interactive startup, and said No to a whole bunch of services starting, and then the bootup ran to completion. Kubuntu 7.10 was more of a problem. It would bootup as far as starting KDM, then it obviously was trying to startx, and present the KDM splash screen, but all I got was a black screen, with a mouse pointer, but everything was locked up, no mouse movement, no keyboard, the whole machine had just stopped, and I had to do a hard reset. After some time, and trying various incantations on the kernel line, I eventually removed the part which said force-vesa, and added acpi=off. Enter, then it booted up, and tried to startx a couple of times, then dropped me to the command line. Tried, just for fun, startx, and it logged me straight in to KDE, with no problems. Now Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon 7.10, is live cd, but when booted up, has a desktop icon to install to harddrive, and I was able to install it ok, but still have to append the kernel line, with acpi=off, otherwise when booting up it locks everthing up when it gets as far as opening the KDM splash screen, needs a hard reset. Kubuntu Breezy installed ok, and I have all the updates for upgrading to Dapper on another harddrive. Having upgraded it, I tried booting with the later 2.6.15-52-386 kernel (the Dapper one), and again it got stuck at opening the KDM splashscreen. I rebooted it appending the kernel line to boot into runlevel 3, as I wanted to check any messages, as to what the problem might be. It didn't boot into runlevel 3, but strangely opened the KDM splashscreen, and I was able to login ok. Adding 3 to the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst, it now boots up ok, but all a bit weird. All of this is why I need at least the 1st i386 cd for Etch, so that I can see any similar problems on this new machine, when trying to install Etch. I don't know if the netinstall cd would do. Does it use the same installer, as on the 1st i386 cd for Etch? Thanks folks, for all the suggestions, and many apologies for anything I said yesterday. Nigel. At least in English (US) we have a saying, Been there, done that!. I have been (in the distant past) very upset at Linux. In reality, it was closed source firmware/drivers and cut rate manufactures who built a machine to windows specs *only* that was making me frustrated. I think the netinstall does use the same installer, so it will work or not. I would only install the base and only the base system. When the Software selection ncurses screen comes up deslect all but the system (I think that is the right name for it, no Desktop, no *server, you may want to select Laptop. Then modify your sources list to point to testing, update, then aptitude safe-upgrade, if all goes well, then aptitude full-upgrade. THEN and ONLY THEN would I run tasksel and pick Desktop environment. Here is my rational: you are running what would appear to be very new hardware (are very badly designed older hardware, same effect) and Testing will have newer drivers (in the kernel) better able to handle it. If the installer will not even work for you (a possibility) then if you want Debian, you will need an installer that will install testing or sid (Sidux will install Sid). You can find these by googleing for debian installer. There are many different third party installers that will install testing or sid or have different kernels for difficult machines. Sidux is the only one I am currently familiar with. You might want to cut to the chase and download that.
Re: Problems getting Etch in France
On Wednesday 23 July 2008 16:49, elijah r. wrote: I don't know if the netinstall cd would do. Does it use the same installer, as on the 1st i386 cd for Etch? I am pretty sure it is exactly the same, but it grabs installation packages from the internet instead of from the local CD/DVDs. Also, I wasn't sure whether you had tried passing the acpi=off parameter to installation bootloaders, or just to the bootloaders on your hard disk after installation. I've had some issues with certain motherboards not even booting off of installation CD/DVDs unless I pass something like acpi=off noapic to the boot options. So, if the boot prompt for some installation CD is is boot: you usually just type linux acpi=off noapic or vmlinuz acpi=off noapic or something along those lines. Well I've got Fedora 8 booted up on this new machine at the moment, and am downloading the debian-4.0r3-i386-netinst.iso. As I previously said, to boot post-install Fedora 8, I had to stop some services from being started, and looking in /boot/grub/grub.conf, it seems like I'd had to add both noapic, and nolapic to the kernel line. can't say that I'm too clued up on acpi, even though reading the man pages. As for the other issues you have had, such as with KDM working/not working and the runlevels failing, they seem erratic, which many times can be hardware-related. What kind of processor do you have? Have you run memtest on your memory? Have you tested your hard disk to make sure it doesn't have bad blocks or other errors? Processor is AMD Athlon 64 3800+, which is one of the 3 suggested for the Asus M2N-X Plus mobo. I havn't run memtest on the memory yet. The memory comprise of 2x1GB of Crucial Ballistix, which Crucial say is fine for this mobo. Nigel. Cheers, Elijah -- http://elijahr.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems getting Etch in France
On Monday 21 July 2008 22:50, Gerard Robin wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 10:17:39PM +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: From: Nigel Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Problems getting Etch in France X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on liszt.debian.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.3 required=4.0 tests=LDOSUBSCRIBER,LDO_WHITELIST, MURPHY_FINANCE6 autolearn=failed version=3.2.3 The only place I can find in France that has Etch DVD's available, wants payment via paypal, and Visa. I have neither, only my local banks Carte Bleue. I'm currently downloading 6 iso's for Fedora 9 on dialup, and am not too bothered about the time it takes. All my current Debian Installs, Sarge, Etch, and Lenny, were installed using my Woody 3.0r2 disks. I have a new machine, and don't want to go through the hassle of upgrading Woody to Sarge, then Etch, along with the transition to xorg again. Could someone kindly point me to where I can get the base install for Etch, including KDE. I don't mind downloading 4 or 5 iso's if this is necessary. Many thanks for any help with this problem. Do you know ikarios ? http://www.ikarios.com/p374-Debian.html hth. -- Gérard Well Ikarios have what I want, but only will accept payment by chéque bancaire, and I can't use my carte bleue for paying online. This is incredible in the 21st century. I have to write out a cheque, get on my bike, and ride 20 mins to the post office, perhaps stand in a queue for 20 mins to buy a stamp (un timbre), then post it. 10 days later I may receive my Debian disks. I give up. I have built a new machine, and have had problems with installing Fedfora 8, Archlinux, and Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon (7.10). Having got these distro's installed, I want to get Debian Etch installed. I only have Woody 3.0.r2 discs, and don't want to go through the hassle of upgrading to Sarge, then Etch, along with the transition from xfree86 to xorg again. Oh to hell with Debian. I have Sarge, Etch, and Lenny on another machine, and really wanted to see if there were problems installing Etch on my new machine, where I've had problems installing other distros. N. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems getting Etch in France
I give up. snip Oh to hell with Debian. snip N. Problem solved. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems getting Etch in France
Debian Etch ISO images are available for download, completely free, via the internet, just like those Fedora ISO's you are downloading. I highly recommend you get the single Debian NetInstall ISO. Since you are using a Dial-Up connection, this will be the fastest way to install Debian. On a side note, what kinds of problems were you running into when installing other distros? I had problems installing most distros on a computer I built that was using a motherboard with a VIA C3 processor, which is missing the CMOV instruction that some 686 binaries are compiled with. Cheers, Elijah The only place I can find in France that has Etch DVD's available, wants payment via paypal, and Visa. I have neither, only my local banks Carte Bleue. I'm currently downloading 6 iso's for Fedora 9 on dialup, and am not too bothered about the time it takes. All my current Debian Installs, Sarge, Etch, and Lenny, were installed using my Woody 3.0r2 disks. I have a new machine, and don't want to go through the hassle of upgrading Woody to Sarge, then Etch, along with the transition to xorg again. Could someone kindly point me to where I can get the base install for Etch, including KDE. I don't mind downloading 4 or 5 iso's if this is necessary. Many thanks for any help with this problem. Do you know ikarios ? http://www.ikarios.com/p374-Debian.html hth. -- Gérard Well Ikarios have what I want, but only will accept payment by chéque bancaire, and I can't use my carte bleue for paying online. This is incredible in the 21st century. I have to write out a cheque, get on my bike, and ride 20 mins to the post office, perhaps stand in a queue for 20 mins to buy a stamp (un timbre), then post it. 10 days later I may receive my Debian disks. I give up. I have built a new machine, and have had problems with installing Fedfora 8, Archlinux, and Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon (7.10). Having got these distro's installed, I want to get Debian Etch installed. I only have Woody 3.0.r2 discs, and don't want to go through the hassle of upgrading to Sarge, then Etch, along with the transition from xfree86 to xorg again. Oh to hell with Debian. I have Sarge, Etch, and Lenny on another machine, and really wanted to see if there were problems installing Etch on my new machine, where I've had problems installing other distros. N. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://elijahr.blogspot.com/
Re: Problems getting Etch in France
elijah r. wrote : Debian Etch ISO images are available for download, completely free, via the internet, just like those Fedora ISO's you are downloading. I highly recommend you get the single Debian NetInstall ISO. Since you are using a Dial-Up connection, this will be the fastest way to install Debian. On a side note, what kinds of problems were you running into when installing other distros? I had problems installing most distros on a computer I built that was using a motherboard with a VIA C3 processor, which is missing the CMOV instruction that some 686 binaries are compiled with. Cheers, Elijah Do you know ikarios ? http://www.ikarios.com/p374-Debian.html hth. -- Gérard Well Ikarios have what I want, but only will accept payment by chéque bancaire, and I can't use my carte bleue for paying online. This is incredible in the 21st century. I have to write out a cheque, get on my bike, and ride 20 mins to the post office, perhaps stand in a queue for 20 mins to buy a stamp (un timbre), then post it. 10 days later I may receive my Debian disks. I give up. I have built a new machine, and have had problems with installing Fedfora 8, Archlinux, and Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon (7.10). Having got these distro's installed, I want to get Debian Etch installed. I only have Woody 3.0.r2 discs, and don't want to go through the hassle of upgrading to Sarge, then Etch, along with the transition from xfree86 to xorg again. Oh to hell with Debian. I have Sarge, Etch, and Lenny on another machine, and really wanted to see if there were problems installing Etch on my new machine, where I've had problems installing other distros. N. Maybe you could have posted on the French user mailing list, maybe there's someone in your area. I'll be in France (west) next week, if you can give me a postal target (to my private mail of course !) I'll send you a couple of spare iso's for Etch and Lenny (I have multi-arch Lenny and Etch). It would work out faster than Ikarios, and I only require payment in fake monopoly® bills ... ;-) Don't you have a LUG in your area ? Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems getting Etch in France
On Tuesday 22 July 2008 21:50, Arthur A wrote: I give up. snip Oh to hell with Debian. snip N. Problem solved. The probelm is not solved Arthur A I'm a wanker The problem is that I live in France, and to say the least it's a problem to buy Debian CD/DVD sets, and pay for them using my Carte Bleue. I do have Sarge, Etch, and Lenny installed on one machine, but want to see if there are problems installing Etch on my new machine, where I've had problems installing other distro's, Fedora8, Archlinux (Don't Panic), and Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon 7.10.. If you have nothing better to say than problem solved then bugger off, and go and play with yourself. Sorry if I'm being sarcastic, but all I want to get is Debian Etch CD's from somwhere or other, either paid for, or downloadewd from the Internet. Nigel. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems getting Etch in France
Nigel writes: ...don't want to go through the hassle of upgrading to Sarge, then Etch, along with the transition from xfree86 to xorg again. Why would you install Xfree86 at all when you intend to upgrade? The only sensible way to do that would be to install just the base system, do the upgrades, and only then install X and whatever applications, servers, desktops, etc. that you need. Much simpler, though, to just download the Etch netinst CD as I and several others have suggested. I give up. We will try to get by without you. It will be a struggle. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems getting Etch in France
- Original Message - From: Nigel Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 1:51 PM Subject: Re: Problems getting Etch in France On Tuesday 22 July 2008 21:50, Arthur A wrote: I give up. snip Oh to hell with Debian. snip N. Problem solved. The probelm is not solved Arthur A I'm a wanker The problem is that I live in France, and to say the least it's a problem to buy Debian CD/DVD sets, and pay for them using my Carte Bleue. I do have Sarge, Etch, and Lenny installed on one machine, but want to see if there are problems installing Etch on my new machine, where I've had problems installing other distro's, Fedora8, Archlinux (Don't Panic), and Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon 7.10.. If you have nothing better to say than problem solved then bugger off, and go and play with yourself. Sorry if I'm being sarcastic, but all I want to get is Debian Etch CD's from somwhere or other, either paid for, or downloadewd from the Internet. Nigel. Maybe you should try linux-fr on freenode. There may be someone near you who can mail you what you need. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems getting Etch in France
On Tue,22.Jul.08, 22:51:07, Nigel Henry wrote: Sorry if I'm being sarcastic, but all I want to get is Debian Etch CD's from somwhere or other, either paid for, or downloadewd from the Internet. I already posted the link: http://cdimage.debian.org Where's the problem? Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Problems getting Etch in France
On Tuesday 22 July 2008 05:50:52 pm Andrei Popescu wrote: On Tue,22.Jul.08, 22:51:07, Nigel Henry wrote: Sorry if I'm being sarcastic, but all I want to get is Debian Etch CD's from somwhere or other, either paid for, or downloadewd from the Internet. I already posted the link: http://cdimage.debian.org Where's the problem? Regards, Andrei I also do not get the distress? Download the CDs. -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Problems getting Etch in France
Nigel writes: Oh to hell with Debian. Arthur writes: Problem solved. Nigel writes: The probelm is not solved Arthur A I'm a wanker If you have nothing better to say than problem solved then bugger off, and go and play with yourself. Arthur is not the one who wrote to hell with Debian. Do you think we get a commission every time someone installs Debian? Why do you think that insulting us is going to get us to help you? Try to contain your frustration. Expressing it here will only result in people killfiling you. The problem is that I live in France, and to say the least it's a problem to buy Debian CD/DVD sets, and pay for them using my Carte Bleue. And I can't buy Debian CDs in Elmwood and put them on my Coop account. Sounds like a local problem (or perhaps a business opportunity: anyone is free to make and sell Debian CDs). Sorry if I'm being sarcastic, but all I want to get is Debian Etch CD's from somwhere or other, either paid for, or downloadewd from the Internet. http://www.debian.org/CD/ -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems getting Etch in France
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:51:07PM +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: On Tuesday 22 July 2008 21:50, Arthur A wrote: I give up. snip Oh to hell with Debian. snip N. Problem solved. The probelm is not solved Arthur A I'm a wanker The problem is that I live in France, and to say the least it's a problem to buy Debian CD/DVD sets, and pay for them using my Carte Bleue. I do have Sarge, Etch, and Lenny installed on one machine, but want to see if there are problems installing Etch on my new machine, where I've had problems installing other distro's, Fedora8, Archlinux (Don't Panic), and Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon 7.10.. If you have nothing better to say than problem solved then bugger off, and go and play with yourself. If you have nothing better to do than complain about your local situation, ignore the many perfectly valid suggestions others have given you, *and* start calling people names, then maybe *you* should bugger off and go and play with yourself. You are helping noone with your attitude. Several people here have given you good suggestions to solve your problem. You should take those suggestions and go away. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Problems getting Etch in France
On Mon,21.Jul.08, 22:17:39, Nigel Henry wrote: The only place I can find in France that has Etch DVD's available, wants payment via paypal, and Visa. I have neither, only my local banks Carte Bleue. I'm currently downloading 6 iso's for Fedora 9 on dialup, and am not too bothered about the time it takes. All my current Debian Installs, Sarge, Etch, and Lenny, were installed using my Woody 3.0r2 disks. I have a new machine, and don't want to go through the hassle of upgrading Woody to Sarge, then Etch, along with the transition to xorg again. Could someone kindly point me to where I can get the base install for Etch, including KDE. I don't mind downloading 4 or 5 iso's if this is necessary. http://cdimage.debian.org ;) You should read the FAQ first http://www.debian.org/CD/faq Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Problems getting Etch in France
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 10:17:39PM +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: From: Nigel Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Problems getting Etch in France X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on liszt.debian.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.3 required=4.0 tests=LDOSUBSCRIBER,LDO_WHITELIST, MURPHY_FINANCE6 autolearn=failed version=3.2.3 The only place I can find in France that has Etch DVD's available, wants payment via paypal, and Visa. I have neither, only my local banks Carte Bleue. I'm currently downloading 6 iso's for Fedora 9 on dialup, and am not too bothered about the time it takes. All my current Debian Installs, Sarge, Etch, and Lenny, were installed using my Woody 3.0r2 disks. I have a new machine, and don't want to go through the hassle of upgrading Woody to Sarge, then Etch, along with the transition to xorg again. Could someone kindly point me to where I can get the base install for Etch, including KDE. I don't mind downloading 4 or 5 iso's if this is necessary. Many thanks for any help with this problem. Do you know ikarios ? http://www.ikarios.com/p374-Debian.html hth. -- Gérard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems getting Etch in France
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 10:17:39PM +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: ... Could someone kindly point me to where I can get the base install for Etch, including KDE. I don't mind downloading 4 or 5 iso's if this is necessary. if you don't mind all the downloading, why don't you just download and install the netinstall iso? That will give you a minimal system that can be then be expanded through the regular apt system. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Problems getting Etch in France
On 07/21/2008 03:17 PM, Nigel Henry wrote: The only place I can find in France that has Etch DVD's available, wants payment via paypal, and Visa. I have neither, only my local banks Carte Bleue. [...] So get a paypal account. Anyway, you only need the first CD-ROM of Debian to install the O/S. Jigdo is the preferred way to do this: http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems getting Etch in France
Mumia writes: So get a paypal account. Many people are unwilling to do that. Anyway, you only need the first CD-ROM of Debian to install the O/S. Actually you only need the much smaller netinst CD-ROM. Google for it. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems getting Etch in France
netinstall is a good alternative ! Mumia W.. wrote: On 07/21/2008 03:17 PM, Nigel Henry wrote: The only place I can find in France that has Etch DVD's available, wants payment via paypal, and Visa. I have neither, only my local banks Carte Bleue. [...] So get a paypal account. Anyway, you only need the first CD-ROM of Debian to install the O/S. Jigdo is the preferred way to do this: http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ -- Jerome BENOIT jgmbenoit_at_mailsnare_dot_net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
