Re: Q: Potato install tool to config X is?

2000-05-14 Thread Brad
On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 03:11:56AM -0700, Ed Slocomb wrote:
 
 If I run out of ways to kill time at work, I'll do what other debian users
 do when they want a thorough X config-- I'll go out on the net and beg users
 of other distros and similar hardware for relevant snippets of their 
 XF86Config files.

i can't speak for all Debian users, but when i want a thorough X config i
use xf86config, then check the docs and tweak things manually.


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Re: Q: Potato install tool to config X is?

2000-05-12 Thread Ed Slocomb
On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 10:00:47AM +0200, Jonathan Gift wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Does the install procedure on Potato require you dig up the monitor's
 frequency rate, etc, or can you just select the resolution an bitmap mode as
 in 1152x864 and 24 bit?
 

I just installed the frozen potato, and the cold spud tried to make me use
xf86config to generate my XF86Config file.  I outsmarted the icy tuber by
hitting ctl-C and then saying no every time it asked me again, and then
I used the bronze tool known as XF86Setup to get a suboptimal but perfectly
functional XF86Config file in place.  On the way, I had to get rid of the 
electric yo-yo known as gpm, because it was hijacking my mouse.  If I were
in charge, I'd drop gpm's priority to optional before releasing 2.2, but
then I always purge the dratted package anyway.

If I run out of ways to kill time at work, I'll do what other debian users
do when they want a thorough X config-- I'll go out on the net and beg users
of other distros and similar hardware for relevant snippets of their 
XF86Config files.



Re: Q: Potato install tool to config X is?

2000-05-12 Thread Mental
On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 03:11:56AM -0700, Ed Slocomb wrote:
 I just installed the frozen potato, and the cold spud tried to make me use
 xf86config to generate my XF86Config file.  I outsmarted the icy tuber by
 hitting ctl-C and then saying no every time it asked me again, and then
 I used the bronze tool known as XF86Setup to get a suboptimal but perfectly
 functional XF86Config file in place.  On the way, I had to get rid of the 
 electric yo-yo known as gpm, because it was hijacking my mouse.  If I were
 in charge, I'd drop gpm's priority to optional before releasing 2.2, but
 then I always purge the dratted package anyway.
 
 If I run out of ways to kill time at work, I'll do what other debian users
 do when they want a thorough X config-- I'll go out on the net and beg users
 of other distros and similar hardware for relevant snippets of their 
 XF86Config files.


You know, you CAN use gpm and have it work quite nicely with X. This
issue has come up and been answered several times while I've been on 
this list (about 3 weeks).

Hint: use /dev/gpmdata as your Pointer for X.

Or just dig back a few threads and see the full writeup.

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Re: Q: Potato install tool to config X is?

2000-05-12 Thread Daniel Reuter
Hello Jonathan,

On Fri, 12 May 2000, Jonathan Gift wrote:
 
 Does the install procedure on Potato require you dig up the monitor's
 frequency rate, etc, 

Yes it does. You can of course always choose one of the least demanding
modes for the hardware (640x480, 16 colours (in fact this is what
XF86Setup does. Uses this mode with the VGA16 server to throw you directly
into X for a graphical configuration and later on switches to the
better settings you supplied)). 
But if you want to get the best out of your hardware, you should know the
capabilities of your monitor/graphics card. Most modern monitors have
protection circuits against a dotclock which is too high, so at least you
can't damage anything anymore (But be careful! Older monitors (and
perhaps also some of the newer ones, I don't know) don't have
this feature). So it would not be bad, if you could get the information
(as you have to enter it in XF86Setup anyway).

Regards,
Daniel





Re: Q: Potato install tool to config X is?

2000-05-12 Thread Mike Werner
On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 10:23:07AM -0400, Mental wrote:
 On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 03:11:56AM -0700, Ed Slocomb wrote:
  I just installed the frozen potato, and the cold spud tried to make me use
  xf86config to generate my XF86Config file.  I outsmarted the icy tuber by
  hitting ctl-C and then saying no every time it asked me again, and then
  I used the bronze tool known as XF86Setup to get a suboptimal but perfectly
  functional XF86Config file in place.  On the way, I had to get rid of the 
  electric yo-yo known as gpm, because it was hijacking my mouse.  If I were
  in charge, I'd drop gpm's priority to optional before releasing 2.2, but
  then I always purge the dratted package anyway.
  
  If I run out of ways to kill time at work, I'll do what other debian users
  do when they want a thorough X config-- I'll go out on the net and beg users
  of other distros and similar hardware for relevant snippets of their 
  XF86Config files.
 
 
 You know, you CAN use gpm and have it work quite nicely with X. This
 issue has come up and been answered several times while I've been on 
 this list (about 3 weeks).
 
 Hint: use /dev/gpmdata as your Pointer for X.

Why?  I've got gpm running to use the mouse on the console, and in
my XF86Config the pointer section uses /dev/mouse, which is linked
to /dev/psaux.  And everything works just fine.  Worked just fine
when I was running slink, worked just fine when I was running potato,
and still works just fine running woody.
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Re: Q: Potato install tool to config X is?

2000-05-12 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
  Hint: use /dev/gpmdata as your Pointer for X.
 
 Why?  I've got gpm running to use the mouse on the console, and in
 my XF86Config the pointer section uses /dev/mouse, which is linked
 to /dev/psaux.  And everything works just fine.  Worked just fine
 when I was running slink, worked just fine when I was running potato,
 and still works just fine running woody.
 
because MY system tends to hang upon every third console switch with this
configuration. YMMV.

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Re: Q: Potato install tool to config X is?

2000-05-12 Thread Mental
On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 08:09:41PM +0200, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
   Hint: use /dev/gpmdata as your Pointer for X.
  
  Why?  I've got gpm running to use the mouse on the console, and in
  my XF86Config the pointer section uses /dev/mouse, which is linked
  to /dev/psaux.  And everything works just fine.  Worked just fine
  when I was running slink, worked just fine when I was running potato,
  and still works just fine running woody.
  
 because MY system tends to hang upon every third console switch with this
 configuration. YMMV.

It depends on your hardware. I've had varying degrees of success with
different mice. Currently I'm using XFree4 and that 7 button optical 
USB mouse that MS makes. I like it. It doesnt get gummed up, and was
easy to setup. I had a mouse that whenever I setup as an IMPS2 pointer,
refused to work if gpm was running. Its just good to know alternatives
if you have issues with gpm/X. There's usually a work around.

If you dont care, thats valid too. I was just pointing out an option.

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