Re: kde4: restore deleted desktop containment

2009-06-12 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In loom.20090612t045157-...@post.gmane.org, DZ wrote:
Jeff Chimene jchimene at gmail.com writes:
 Andrei Popescu wrote:
  Jeff Chimene wrote:
  While futzing w/ KDE 4, I deleted the desktop containment. How do I
  restore the desktop containment? Google is not very revealing on this
  topic.
 
  What's do you mean by 'containment'?
 One would have to ask the KDE wizards. That's what it's called.
Right-click in desktop area; choose Appearance Settings.
Then, under Desktop Activity - Type - Desktop.
Next, right-click on desktop area again; choose Add Widgets.
Add Folder View.
In the newly appeared Folder Area,
right-click Under Folder View Settings,
choose Show the Desktop folder

If these steps work for you, then you aren't talking about a containment.  
You are talking about a widget or a plasmoid.

A containment is a space in which widgets are located.  The desktop is 
one, each panel is another.  Under Appearance Settings, you can choose the 
type of containment the desktop exposes by choosing the Desktop Activity 
- Type.

Just like widget is preferred to plasmoid is user documentation, I 
believe activity is preferred to containment.
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Re: Re: kde4: restore deleted desktop containment

2009-06-12 Thread Jeff Chimene

On 12/23/-28158 12:59 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

Inloom.20090612t045157-...@post.gmane.org, DZ wrote:
   

Jeff Chimenejchimeneat  gmail.com  writes:
 

Andrei Popescu wrote:
   

Jeff Chimene wrote:
 

While futzing w/ KDE 4, I deleted the desktop containment. How do I
restore the desktop containment? Google is not very revealing on this
topic.
   

What's do you mean by 'containment'?
 

One would have to ask the KDE wizards. That's what it's called.
   

Right-click in desktop area; choose Appearance Settings.
Then, under Desktop Activity -  Type -  Desktop.
Next, right-click on desktop area again; choose Add Widgets.
Add Folder View.
In the newly appeared Folder Area,
right-click Under Folder View Settings,
choose Show the Desktop folder
 


If these steps work for you, then you aren't talking about a containment.
You are talking about a widget or a plasmoid.
   


Boyd,

Do you run KDE 4?

If you do, then please follow these oh-so-easy steps:

   1. Right mouseclick on the desktop
   2. Select Appearance Settings
   3. Select the Type drop-down menu in the Desktop Activity group
   4. Note the captions for each of the two selections
   5. Post the caption for Desktop Better yet, grab a screenshot at
   step 4 and post it to the list

Did you answer the original question when I posted it a few weeks ago? 
Sure you did! I knew you could!


Thanks again to the kind person who finally answered the question.

To you, Boyd, thanks for being the typical Debianite


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Re: kde4: restore deleted desktop containment

2009-06-12 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 4a32e445.5060...@gmail.com, Jeff Chimene wrote:
On 12/23/-28158 12:59 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 Inloom.20090612t045157-...@post.gmane.org, DZ wrote:
 Jeff Chimenejchimeneat  gmail.com  writes:
 Andrei Popescu wrote:
 Jeff Chimene wrote:
 While futzing w/ KDE 4, I deleted the desktop containment. How do I
 restore the desktop containment? Google is not very revealing on
 this topic.
 What's do you mean by 'containment'?
 One would have to ask the KDE wizards. That's what it's called.

 Right-click in desktop area; choose Appearance Settings.
 Then, under Desktop Activity -  Type -  Desktop.

Didn't see/read/process this line, just the ones under it.

 Next, right-click on desktop area again; choose Add Widgets.
 Add Folder View.
 In the newly appeared Folder Area,
 right-click Under Folder View Settings,
 choose Show the Desktop folder

These lines only affect widgets.  They don't have anything to do with 
containments or activity types.

 If these steps work for you, then you aren't talking about a
 containment. You are talking about a widget or a plasmoid.

Do you run KDE 4?

Yes.

If you do, then please follow these oh-so-easy steps:

1. Right mouseclick on the desktop
2. Select Appearance Settings
3. Select the Type drop-down menu in the Desktop Activity group
4. Note the captions for each of the two selections
5. Post the caption for Desktop Better yet, grab a screenshot at
step 4 and post it to the list

This caption does use the term containment.  That doesn't mean 
containment is the correct term, just the current one being used.  Debian 
packages also used the term plasmoid for quite a while in experimental.  
Often developers or translators can make these mistakes when there are two 
names for the same thing.

(I'm not sure why the KDE project would use two names for the same thing -- 
it doesn't make much sense.)

Did you answer the original question when I posted it a few weeks ago?
Sure you did! I knew you could!

I don't see how.  I assumed by deleted you meant that it was no longer in 
the drop-down, not that you had changed your current activity type to a 
different activity type.  If something is missing from the drop-down, I 
don't have the know-how to fix it since I've never run into that problem.

Perhaps I could have answered your question if it were phrased differently, 
but I don't have time to ask every poster for clarification.  I don't even 
have time to respond to all the posters whose questions I can answer.
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Re: kde4: restore deleted desktop containment

2009-06-12 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 3...@971427812.6110353.17848.14176.10646, DZ wrote:
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net wrote:
 Jeff Chimene wrote:
 Did you answer the original question when I posted it a few weeks
 ago?  Sure you did! I knew you could!
 Perhaps I could have answered your question if it were phrased
 differently, but I don't have time to ask every poster for
 clarification.
I think that the question was phrased quite well.

Sorry, I didn't it wasn't my intent to lay any blame on the OP.  I'm just 
saying I didn't understand it the same way he meant it, and I didn't have 
the time or inclination to clarify my understanding.

My fault entirely.  I hope I can help in the future.
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Re: kde4: restore deleted desktop containment

2009-06-11 Thread DZ
Jeff Chimene jchimene at gmail.com writes:
 Andrei Popescu wrote:
  Jeff Chimene wrote:
  While futzing w/ KDE 4, I deleted the desktop containment. How do I
  restore the desktop containment? Google is not very revealing on this
  topic.
 
  What's do you mean by 'containment'?
 
 
 One would have to ask the KDE wizards. That's what it's called.

Right-click in desktop area; choose Appearance Settings.
Then, under Desktop Activity - Type - Desktop.
Next, right-click on desktop area again; choose Add Widgets.
Add Folder View.
In the newly appeared Folder Area, 
right-click Under Folder View Settings,
choose Show the Desktop folder



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Re: Re: kde4: restore deleted desktop containment

2009-05-21 Thread Jeff Chimene

On 12/23/-28158 12:59 PM, Paul Scott wrote:
div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedJeff 
Chimene wrote:

On 12/23/-28158 12:59 PM, Andrei Popescu wrote:

On Wed,20.May.09, 12:34:01, Jeff Chimene wrote:

Hi,

While futzing w/ KDE 4, I deleted the desktop containment. How do I
restore the desktop containment? Google is not very revealing on this
topic.


What's do you mean by 'containment'?


One would have to ask the KDE wizards. That's what it's called.

Assuming that one starts at the standard kde4 desktop:
o Right-click on the desktop
o Select appearance settings
o Select desktop in desktop activity; the description for which 
is default desktop containment. 


Hi Jeff,

I get this far and don't see any pop out menu.


Sorry, I omitted the last step: mouseover the (now visible) desktop 
window; which event should cause the pop-out action. I may be wrong in 
the actions required to raise the pop-out window: the window isn't 
visible, natch.


After clicking X on the containment's pop-out menu, the containment 
disappears. I was able to restore the default desktop environment by 
renaming .kde to .kde-save. 


That sounds similar to what I had to do when I did the update to KDE 
4.2 at the same time as the upgrade to X 7.4 and all kinds of things 
broke.


To be fair: the Debianization of KDE4.4 seems well-thought-out, But for 
certain settings that don't have an analog in KDE4 (textured 
wallpaper?), the migration to KDE4 from KDE3 was smooth. I didn't 
realize the depth of the migration until after renaming the .kde 
directory, some migrated properties I took for granted were (obviously) 
lost.


Paul Scott



Needless to say, this is a bit like reinstall windows to
remove all virii



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Re: kde4: restore deleted desktop containment

2009-05-20 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed,20.May.09, 12:34:01, Jeff Chimene wrote:
 Hi,

 While futzing w/ KDE 4, I deleted the desktop containment. How do I  
 restore the desktop containment? Google is not very revealing on this 
 topic.

What's do you mean by 'containment'?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Containment_(disambiguation)

Regards,
Andrei
-- 
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
(Albert Einstein)


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Re: kde4: restore deleted desktop containment

2009-05-20 Thread Jeff Chimene

On 12/23/-28158 12:59 PM, Andrei Popescu wrote:

On Wed,20.May.09, 12:34:01, Jeff Chimene wrote:
   

Hi,

While futzing w/ KDE 4, I deleted the desktop containment. How do I
restore the desktop containment? Google is not very revealing on this
topic.
 


What's do you mean by 'containment'?
   


One would have to ask the KDE wizards. That's what it's called.

Assuming that one starts at the standard kde4 desktop:
o Right-click on the desktop
o Select appearance settings
o Select desktop in desktop activity; the description for which is 
default desktop containment. After clicking X on the containment's 
pop-out menu, the containment disappears. I was able to restore the 
default desktop environment by renaming .kde to .kde-save. Needless to 
say, this is a bit like reinstall windows to

remove all virii


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Re: kde4: restore deleted desktop containment

2009-05-20 Thread Paul Scott

Jeff Chimene wrote:

On 12/23/-28158 12:59 PM, Andrei Popescu wrote:

On Wed,20.May.09, 12:34:01, Jeff Chimene wrote:
  

Hi,

While futzing w/ KDE 4, I deleted the desktop containment. How do I
restore the desktop containment? Google is not very revealing on this
topic.
 


What's do you mean by 'containment'?
   


One would have to ask the KDE wizards. That's what it's called.

Assuming that one starts at the standard kde4 desktop:
o Right-click on the desktop
o Select appearance settings
o Select desktop in desktop activity; the description for which is 
default desktop containment. 


Hi Jeff,

I get this far and don't see any pop out menu.

After clicking X on the containment's pop-out menu, the containment 
disappears. I was able to restore the default desktop environment by 
renaming .kde to .kde-save. 


That sounds similar to what I had to do when I did the update to KDE 4.2 
at the same time as the upgrade to X 7.4 and all kinds of things broke.


Paul Scott



Needless to say, this is a bit like reinstall windows to
remove all virii






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