Re: problems with cdwriter on woody-system

2003-11-17 Thread Palfalvi Richard
I 've got the solution :-))

Am Don, 2003-11-13 um 23.54 schrieb duck:
  
  As I am booting from floppy-disk: Does the kernel read my /etc/lilo.conf
  on my harddisk or is there some /etc/lilo.conf on the floppy itself.
  Maybe this is the reason why it doesn't work??
 
 The floppy disk may be a factor. I'm not sure. I don't boot off 
 floppy disk and I don't use LILO (switched to GRUB). Check out 
 dmesg. You should have a line similar to 
 
 Kernel command line: root=/dev/hde5 ro
 
 Which will tell you what parameters are being passed to the kernel. If 
 all that append guff doesn't come up here, edit the boot prompt by 
 hand, i.e. when the lilo boot screen appears
 
 boot: linux
 
 append the append line from lilo.conf, thus:
 
 boot: linux hdc=ide-scsi ide-cd ignore=hdc enter

That's it!

As I am booting from floppy-disk (the bios of my machine doesn't
recognize harddisk over 4 GB - and mine has 40GB!)
the kernel on the floppy cannot read my /etc/lilo.conf on my harddisk
(where I put all the correct parameters) so it couldn't get them at
boottime.

When I give the parameters after the boot-prompt it WORKS ! :-)

Thanks a lot for your hints and your patience!!

Well now I have to options:

first is always to put the parameters by hand when I will going to burn
CDs

second: I could try to flash my bios - which I haven't been trying till
now because some people told me that this is a very tricky thing which
could destroy my motherboard resp. the bios-chip. Well, I 'll see 

yours sincerely, Richard




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Re: problems with cdwriter on woody-system

2003-11-17 Thread duck
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 11:19:47PM +0100, Palfalvi Richard wrote:
 I 've got the solution :-))
 
...
  The floppy disk may be a factor. I'm not sure. I don't boot off 
  floppy disk and I don't use LILO (switched to GRUB). Check out 
  dmesg. You should have a line similar to 
  
  Kernel command line: root=/dev/hde5 ro
  
  Which will tell you what parameters are being passed to the kernel. If 
  all that append guff doesn't come up here, edit the boot prompt by 
  hand, i.e. when the lilo boot screen appears
  
  boot: linux
  
  append the append line from lilo.conf, thus:
  
  boot: linux hdc=ide-scsi ide-cd ignore=hdc enter
 
 That's it!
 
 As I am booting from floppy-disk (the bios of my machine doesn't
 recognize harddisk over 4 GB - and mine has 40GB!)
 the kernel on the floppy cannot read my /etc/lilo.conf on my harddisk
 (where I put all the correct parameters) so it couldn't get them at
 boottime.

 When I give the parameters after the boot-prompt it WORKS ! :-)
 
 Thanks a lot for your hints and your patience!!

No problem - glad to be of help

 Well now I have to options:
 
 first is always to put the parameters by hand when I will going to burn
 CDs
 
 second: I could try to flash my bios - which I haven't been trying till
 now because some people told me that this is a very tricky thing which
 could destroy my motherboard resp. the bios-chip. Well, I 'll see 

I've flashed my BIOS before and no harm has come of it (the board 
wouldn't recognise PC100 DIMMs otherwise) as well as my CD-Writer. Of 
course, it helps if you computer is old, like mine.

There must be some sort of configuration file on the floppy disk 
-- have you tried mounting it?

You could also try recompiling your kernel. This would allow you to 
place the necessary parameters in /etc/modules.conf instead of in 
LILO.


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Re: problems with cdwriter on woody-system

2003-11-13 Thread Palfalvi Richard
Am Mit, 2003-11-12 um 21.37 schrieb duck:
 
 I think you're missing some module or other. Here's my lsmod:
  
 Module  Size  Used byTainted: P
 snd-pcm-oss39556   1  (autoclean)
 snd-mixer-oss  13592   1  (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss]
 agpgart21032   3  (autoclean)
 nvidia   1630080  11  (autoclean)
 apm10156   1  (autoclean)
 snd-cs46xx 70472   2
 snd-pcm60900   0  [snd-pcm-oss snd-cs46xx]
 snd-timer  14244   0  [snd-pcm]
 snd-ac97-codec 41368   0  [snd-cs46xx]
 snd-page-alloc  6356   0  [snd-cs46xx snd-pcm]
 snd-rawmidi13312   0  [snd-cs46xx]
 snd-seq-device  4176   0  [snd-rawmidi]
 snd29348   0  [snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-cs46xx snd-pcm 
 snd-timer snd-ac97-codec snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device]
 soundcore   3652   6  [snd]
 serial 49828   0  (autoclean)
 isa-pnp32560   0  (autoclean) [serial]
 8139too15240   1  (autoclean)
 mii 2400   0  (autoclean) [8139too]
 crc32   2880   0  (autoclean) [8139too]
 sg 28092   0  (unused)
 ide-scsi   10320   0
 ide-cd 32352   0
 ide-floppy 14044   0
 usb-uhci   23600   0  (unused)
 dsbr100 4348   0  (unused)
 usbcore62572   0  [usb-uhci dsbr100]
 videodev6048   1  [dsbr100]
 sr_mod 15896   0
 scsi_mod   58324   3  [sg ide-scsi sr_mod]
 cdrom  28512   0  [ide-cd sr_mod]
 
 I think you need scsi_mod and sr_mod (someone correct me if I'm wrong). I
 have also included the relevant bits from dmesg below.

When I did insmod sr_mod or insmod scsi_mod  the errormessage was 
== insmod: sr_mod: no module by that name found
== insmod: scsi_mod: no module by that name found

How are these modules named when I work with MODCONF (I couldn't find
them in there!?)
 
 I think you also need to stick ide-cd ignore=hdc in
 /etc/modutils/aliases too, (and run update-modules after) since your
 ide-cd modules is loaded before your ide-scsi module.

sorry, but what do you mean with STICK ide-cd . in ..

I found the aliases-file (see attachment) but how is the syntax for this
ignore-command? Is it something like options= blablabla??

 
 Alternatiely, you can swap the order of ide-scsi and ide-cd in
 /etc/modules.

I do NOT have any /etc/modules directory or file on my PC !?? I have no
idead why this file is missing and everything else runs fine except the
cdwriter-problem .

So can I create it by myself or with a special command? And what should
be the exact content of it to have the right order of modules?

 hope that helps
 duck

anyway, thanks a lot for your answer as you were the first for a week
now giving me some hints :-))

yours sincerely, Richard




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Re: problems with cdwriter on woody-system

2003-11-13 Thread duck
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 06:38:09PM +0100, Palfalvi Richard wrote:
 Am Mit, 2003-11-12 um 21.37 schrieb duck:
  
  I think you need scsi_mod and sr_mod (someone correct me if I'm wrong). I
  have also included the relevant bits from dmesg below.
 
 When I did insmod sr_mod or insmod scsi_mod  the errormessage was 
 == insmod: sr_mod: no module by that name found
 == insmod: scsi_mod: no module by that name found

Sorry. My mistake. I presume you're running 2.4.18-bf2.4 or some other 
similar pre-packaged kernel where sr_mod and scsi_mod are compiled 
into the kernel. Hence these modules do not need to be loaded.
 
 How are these modules named when I work with MODCONF (I couldn't find
 them in there!?)
  
  I think you also need to stick ide-cd ignore=hdc in
  /etc/modutils/aliases too, (and run update-modules after) since your
  ide-cd modules is loaded before your ide-scsi module.
 
 sorry, but what do you mean with STICK ide-cd . in ..
 
 I found the aliases-file (see attachment) but how is the syntax for this
 ignore-command? Is it something like options= blablabla??

OK. Since the stuff is compiled directly into the kernel you need to 
put the relevant options into /etc/lilo.conf instead

  Alternatiely, you can swap the order of ide-scsi and ide-cd in
  /etc/modules.
 
 I do NOT have any /etc/modules directory or file on my PC !?? I have no
 idead why this file is missing and everything else runs fine except the
 cdwriter-problem .

 So can I create it by myself or with a special command? And what should
 be the exact content of it to have the right order of modules?

As before, since it's all built in to the kernel, you don't really 
need /etc/modules. In /etc/lilo.conf I think you need following in 
your append line:

hdc=ide-scsi ide-cd ignore=hdc

And then run update-lilo (as root) after.  That should make it work.

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Re: problems with cdwriter on woody-system

2003-11-13 Thread Palfalvi Richard
Am Don, 2003-11-13 um 20.53 schrieb duck:

 Sorry. My mistake. I presume you're running 2.4.18-bf2.4 or some other 
 similar pre-packaged kernel where sr_mod and scsi_mod are compiled 
 into the kernel. Hence these modules do not need to be loaded.

Yes, I do (its the 2.4.18-bf2.4 Kernel which came out of the box ;-)
 
 As before, since it's all built in to the kernel, you don't really 
 need /etc/modules. In /etc/lilo.conf I think you need following in 
 your append line:
 
 hdc=ide-scsi ide-cd ignore=hdc
 
 And then run update-lilo (as root) after.  That should make it work.

I edited again /etc/lilo.conf and put the following line in:

append=hdc=ide-scsi ide-cd ignore=hdc

then I run lilo as root. this worked without error BUT:

after the reboot there seem to be no great change.

I did a cdrecord -scanbus again and had still the error-message I
already had before :-(

As I am booting from floppy-disk: Does the kernel read my /etc/lilo.conf
on my harddisk or is there some /etc/lilo.conf on the floppy itself.
Maybe this is the reason why it doesn't work??

Or is it the order in which the modules are loaded?

any further help would be very nice
thx a lot.
yours, Richard



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Re: problems with cdwriter on woody-system

2003-11-13 Thread duck
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 09:26:23PM +0100, Palfalvi Richard wrote:
 Am Don, 2003-11-13 um 20.53 schrieb duck:
  As before, since it's all built in to the kernel, you don't really 
  need /etc/modules. In /etc/lilo.conf I think you need following in 
  your append line:
  
  hdc=ide-scsi ide-cd ignore=hdc
  
  And then run update-lilo (as root) after.  That should make it work.
 
 I edited again /etc/lilo.conf and put the following line in:
 
 append=hdc=ide-scsi ide-cd ignore=hdc
 
 then I run lilo as root. this worked without error BUT:
 
 after the reboot there seem to be no great change.
 
 I did a cdrecord -scanbus again and had still the error-message I
 already had before :-(
 
 As I am booting from floppy-disk: Does the kernel read my /etc/lilo.conf
 on my harddisk or is there some /etc/lilo.conf on the floppy itself.
 Maybe this is the reason why it doesn't work??

The problem is that ide-cd is claiming the CD-ROM drive and CD-Writer.
For example, on my machine, without the ide-cd ignore=hdc line, I get 
the following in dmesg:

hdc: attached ide-cdrom driver.
hdc: ATAPI 32X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, DMA
hdd: attached ide-cdrom driver.
hdd: ATAPI 40X DVD-ROM drive, 256kB Cache, UDMA(33)

as opposed to

ide-cd: ignoring drive hdc
hdd: attached ide-cdrom driver.
hdd: ATAPI 40X DVD-ROM drive, 256kB Cache, UDMA(33)

when I do have the ignore line.

The floppy disk may be a factor. I'm not sure. I don't boot off 
floppy disk and I don't use LILO (switched to GRUB). Check out 
dmesg. You should have a line similar to 

Kernel command line: root=/dev/hde5 ro

Which will tell you what parameters are being passed to the kernel. If 
all that append guff doesn't come up here, edit the boot prompt by 
hand, i.e. when the lilo boot screen appears

boot: linux

append the append line from lilo.conf, thus:

boot: linux hdc=ide-scsi ide-cd ignore=hdc enter

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Re: problems with cdwriter on woody-system

2003-11-12 Thread duck

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:20:20 +0100, Palfalvi Richard wrote:

 Hi out there!

 I 've got the following problem: I built in a Plextor-CD-Writer in my Desktop-PC 
 (with Woody on it) but
 the machine (kernel) do not recognize it.
...
 Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
 ipt_MASQUERADE  1216   1  (autoclean)
 ipt_LOG 3136   1  (autoclean)
 ipt_state608   1  (autoclean)
 iptable_filter  1728   1  (autoclean)
 ip_nat_ftp  2944   0  (unused)
 iptable_nat12660   2  [ipt_MASQUERADE ip_nat_ftp]
 ip_conntrack_irc2496   0  (unused)
 ip_conntrack_ftp3200   0  (unused)
 ip_conntrack   12684   4  [ipt_MASQUERADE ipt_state ip_nat_ftp iptable_nat 
 ip_conntrack_irc ip_conntrack_ftp]
 ip_tables  10432   7  [ipt_MASQUERADE ipt_LOG ipt_state iptable_filter 
 iptable_nat]
 parport_pc 25704   1  (autoclean)
 lp  6912   0  (autoclean)
 sg 24452   0  (unused)
 ide-scsi7488   0
 ne  6368   1
 3c509   7968   1
 isa-pnp27432   0  [ne 3c509]
 parport21728   1  [parport_pc lp]
...
 
I think you're missing some module or other. Here's my lsmod:
 
Module  Size  Used byTainted: P
snd-pcm-oss39556   1  (autoclean)
snd-mixer-oss  13592   1  (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss]
agpgart21032   3  (autoclean)
nvidia   1630080  11  (autoclean)
apm10156   1  (autoclean)
snd-cs46xx 70472   2
snd-pcm60900   0  [snd-pcm-oss snd-cs46xx]
snd-timer  14244   0  [snd-pcm]
snd-ac97-codec 41368   0  [snd-cs46xx]
snd-page-alloc  6356   0  [snd-cs46xx snd-pcm]
snd-rawmidi13312   0  [snd-cs46xx]
snd-seq-device  4176   0  [snd-rawmidi]
snd29348   0  [snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-cs46xx snd-pcm 
snd-timer snd-ac97-codec snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device]
soundcore   3652   6  [snd]
serial 49828   0  (autoclean)
isa-pnp32560   0  (autoclean) [serial]
8139too15240   1  (autoclean)
mii 2400   0  (autoclean) [8139too]
crc32   2880   0  (autoclean) [8139too]
sg 28092   0  (unused)
ide-scsi   10320   0
ide-cd 32352   0
ide-floppy 14044   0
usb-uhci   23600   0  (unused)
dsbr100 4348   0  (unused)
usbcore62572   0  [usb-uhci dsbr100]
videodev6048   1  [dsbr100]
sr_mod 15896   0
scsi_mod   58324   3  [sg ide-scsi sr_mod]
cdrom  28512   0  [ide-cd sr_mod]

I think you need scsi_mod and sr_mod (someone correct me if I'm wrong). I
have also included the relevant bits from dmesg below.
 
ide-cd: ignoring drive hdc
hdd: attached ide-cdrom driver.
hdd: ATAPI 40X DVD-ROM drive, 256kB Cache, UDMA(33)
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
hdc: attached ide-scsi driver.
scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
  Vendor: PLEXTOR   Model: CD-R   PX-W1210A  Rev: 1.10
  Type:   CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 32x/32x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
 
I think you also need to stick ide-cd ignore=hdc in
/etc/modutils/aliases too, (and run update-modules after) since your
ide-cd modules is loaded before your ide-scsi module.
 
Alternatiely, you can swap the order of ide-scsi and ide-cd in
/etc/modules.
 
hope that helps
duck


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