Re: spamassassin installation help
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 12:23:12PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: | On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 05:26:43PM +0100, Matthias Hentges wrote: | > Am Die, 2002-12-10 um 10.25 schrieb Sandip P Deshmukh: | > > do i just install spamassasin as it comes or do i have to tweak it? | > | > At least with postfix you'll have to integrate SA manually. It should be | > the same with Exim. | > You may want to have a look at this: | > | > http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/config_docs/exim3_spamassassin.html | | it was wonderful documentation. Thanks :-). | did just what it said and i am already | running spamassasin. there is one difficulty, though. it refers to some | filters in exim.conf file. could someone tell me, where do i place | these filters in the file? in the beginning? in some specific | section? in the end? | | the filter per se is given in full. however, not its location in the | exim.conf file. It doesn't go in exim.conf. It goes in your "filter file". Where that is depends on several things. First, do you want the filtering to be site-wide? If so then see the 'message_filter' option in section 11 of spec.txt. If you want the filtering to be per-user then see sections 24.7 (specifically the 'filter' option) and 50.3 of spect.txt and section 5 of filter.txt. If you're using a configuration generated by 'eximconfig' then use the file ~/.forward and put # Exim filter as the first line. Also check section 47 of spec.txt. | > But using .procmailrc will be the most simple way to do it IMO. | | i am still a bit confused about procmail. i use mutt anyway. and | although i have not yet used folders. but i guess, i can use folders and | folder hooks to sort mail into different mailboxes. do i still need to | use procmail? Mutt's folder-hooks can be used to move mail from one folder to another, but that's not really how it was intended. What you are looking for is an MDA (Mail Delivery Agent) that allows you to specify specificy where to deliver each individual message. The default MDA with exim (and sendmail, and postfix, etc.) puts everything into your inbox. Procmail, maildrop, and exim are alternate MDAs that let you specify how to deliver the message on a per-message basis. See above for how to use exim's filtering capabilities . -D -- A violent man entices his neighbor and leads him down a path that is not good. Proverbs 16:29 http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/ msg18520/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: spamassassin installation help
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 05:26:43PM +0100, Matthias Hentges wrote: > Am Die, 2002-12-10 um 10.25 schrieb Sandip P Deshmukh: > > do i just install spamassasin as it comes or do i have to tweak it? > > At least with postfix you'll have to integrate SA manually. It should be > the same with Exim. > You may want to have a look at this: > > http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/config_docs/exim3_spamassassin.html it was wonderful documentation. did just what it said and i am already running spamassasin. there is one difficulty, though. it refers to some filters in exim.conf file. could someone tell me, where do i place these filters in the file? in the beginning? in some specific section? in the end? the filter per se is given in full. however, not its location in the exim.conf file. > But using .procmailrc will be the most simple way to do it IMO. i am still a bit confused about procmail. i use mutt anyway. and although i have not yet used folders. but i guess, i can use folders and folder hooks to sort mail into different mailboxes. do i still need to use procmail? > > spamassasin refers to one librazor package. it was not available. i found razor, > > though, is it one and the same? > > Yes i think so. At least my SA started using Razor when i installed the > package "razor". how do i make sure that my spamassasin is using razor? i already have the package installed. -- regards, sandip p deshmukh --*** -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spamassassin installation help
This is doable, but the problem is with spamc - it depends on a newer version of libc6 than what is in Woody. This means that if you want to install the spamc from unstable (which you must to satisfy the Depends: for spamassassin) you have to upgrade libc6 as well. I run Sid on one of my boxes, without any real problems, but I wouldn't want it running on a mail server. I found it much easier to backport for Woody than to mix distros like this, but YMMV. Ahh, that's right. Forgot about that. I'm running spamd on a dedicated box. Didn't have any trouble with the libc6 upgrade, but wouldn't have done that on the mailserver itself. --Rich _ Rich Puhek ETN Systems Inc. 2125 1st Ave East Hibbing MN 55746 tel: 218.262.1130 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spamassassin installation help
Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is doable, but the problem is with spamc - it depends on a newer > version of libc6 than what is in Woody. It seems to work 100% to use the woody spamc with the unstable spamassassin. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Pathetically misguided rootdiggers. -Brain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spamassassin installation help
This one time, at band camp, Rich Puhek said: > Or, add the following to /etc/apt/apt.conf: > APT::Default-Release "woody"; > > > and add a mirror for unstable to sources.list > > then do > apt-get update > apt-get install unstable/spamassassin > > should get you the latest packaged SA. Someone is also building .debs of > the CVS snapshots, if you really want to be bleeding edge. See the SA > archives for details. > > --Rich This is doable, but the problem is with spamc - it depends on a newer version of libc6 than what is in Woody. This means that if you want to install the spamc from unstable (which you must to satisfy the Depends: for spamassassin) you have to upgrade libc6 as well. I run Sid on one of my boxes, without any real problems, but I wouldn't want it running on a mail server. I found it much easier to backport for Woody than to mix distros like this, but YMMV. -- -- | Stephen Gran | Support Mental Health. Or I'll kill| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | you.| | http://www.lobefin.net/~steve | | -- msg18206/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: spamassassin installation help
Stephen Gran wrote: It is. Dman's page is excellent, and if you follow the instructions, you'll have a very nicely working setup very quickly. The only thing I would recommend doing is (if you're using either woody or sarge) is backporting the version from unstable - I have gotten much better results, with far lower false positives/negatives than before. This is easily done by downloading the source, cd into the toplevel source directory and typing `fakeroot debian/rules binary`. You may need to first install the build-depends, which will be listed in debian/control. Or, add the following to /etc/apt/apt.conf: APT::Default-Release "woody"; and add a mirror for unstable to sources.list then do apt-get update apt-get install unstable/spamassassin should get you the latest packaged SA. Someone is also building .debs of the CVS snapshots, if you really want to be bleeding edge. See the SA archives for details. --Rich _ Rich Puhek ETN Systems Inc. 2125 1st Ave East Hibbing MN 55746 tel: 218.262.1130 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spamassassin installation help
This one time, at band camp, Matthias Hentges said: > Am Die, 2002-12-10 um 10.25 schrieb Sandip P Deshmukh: > > hello all > > > > this is my post to the group after some time. debain had been working > > wonderfully. > > > > i have read quite some posts on spamassasin. so went to dselect and read > > up material available on that. > > > > i use exim (almost default set-up) and fetchmail (again almost default > > set-up) for mail processing. i read mails with mutt. > > > > do i just install spamassasin as it comes or do i have to tweak it? > > At least with postfix you'll have to integrate SA manually. It should be > the same with Exim. It is. Dman's page is excellent, and if you follow the instructions, you'll have a very nicely working setup very quickly. The only thing I would recommend doing is (if you're using either woody or sarge) is backporting the version from unstable - I have gotten much better results, with far lower false positives/negatives than before. This is easily done by downloading the source, cd into the toplevel source directory and typing `fakeroot debian/rules binary`. You may need to first install the build-depends, which will be listed in debian/control. > > i do not use .forward or .procmailrc file. i am yet to find a need for > > either. can i use spamassasin without either of these files? By default, spamassassin does not delete email, even if it tags it as SPAM. Usng a .forward or .procmail sorting method will allow you to move tagged messages to another folder for review later. I check it when I have time, and I'm still seeing too many false positives to wnat to change to automatically deleting it. Probably mostly due to the fact that I have barely tweaked the default install (^: > You may want to have a look at this: > > http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/config_docs/exim3_spamassassin.html > > Note: I do not use Exim so i don't know if this site is what you need. It is, and many thanks to dman for his work. -- -- | Stephen Gran | It's not? Are you saying that you | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | SHOULD allow people (other than William | | http://www.lobefin.net/~steve | Wallace) to shoot lightning bolts from | || their arse? -- Seth Galbraith | -- msg18144/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: spamassassin installation help
Am Die, 2002-12-10 um 10.25 schrieb Sandip P Deshmukh: > hello all > > this is my post to the group after some time. debain had been working > wonderfully. > > i have read quite some posts on spamassasin. so went to dselect and read > up material available on that. > > i use exim (almost default set-up) and fetchmail (again almost default > set-up) for mail processing. i read mails with mutt. > > do i just install spamassasin as it comes or do i have to tweak it? At least with postfix you'll have to integrate SA manually. It should be the same with Exim. > i do not use .forward or .procmailrc file. i am yet to find a need for > either. can i use spamassasin without either of these files? You may want to have a look at this: http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/config_docs/exim3_spamassassin.html Note: I do not use Exim so i don't know if this site is what you need. But using .procmailrc will be the most simple way to do it IMO. > spamassasin refers to one librazor package. it was not available. i found razor, > though, is it one and the same? Yes i think so. At least my SA started using Razor when i installed the package "razor". > is spamassasin getting to be a default mail processing package? Nope, just the default SPAM-processing package ;) -- Matthias Hentges [www.hentges.net] -> PGP + HTML are welcome ICQ: 97 26 97 4 -> No files, no URLs My OS: Debian Woody: Geek by Nature, Linux by Choice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
