Re: SMP & SCSI resets
On Wed, 30 Dec 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ snip ] : To be honest, It's been a while since I played with that system and I had : forgotten that the 2740 installed uses aic7xxx. I was too quick to call 2740s are notoriously spastic if there are other SCSI drivers linked into the kernel. I've never gotten a 2740 to work unless I've compiled a custom kernel with only the SCSI support I need (on those machines, 2740 only). You may be on the right track with no_reset ... Oh, the BootPrompt HOWTO tells you all the funky switches for most every driver ... easier than reading the source, too. -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
Re: SMP & SCSI resets
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said [Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > > On 30-Dec-98, [EMAIL PROTECTED] took time to write : > > Setting up LILO isn't going to be a problem...just couldn't remember the > > option... > > i didn't know the option either before your post. > > >> Ps: to find things like that see the kernel sources. > >> for example aic7xxx=no_reset (along with all other options) is clearly > >> mentioned at the beginning of /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/aic7xxx.c > >> > > Yes, you're right. It's there. Though there are 220 or so files in > > /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi alone...finding a reference to an option you > > yes. but you probably aren't using all scsi drivers at the same time ;-) > True. To be honest, It's been a while since I played with that system and I had forgotten that the 2740 installed uses aic7xxx. I was too quick to call for help, perhapslive and learn. > > don't know in the source of a driver you don't use *is* somewhat > > problematic. > > It's akin to using a dictionary to learn the proper spelling of a word - > > it's easy to find the word if you already know how to spell it... > > > > Thanks again, I'll see if I can get over there tonight to do a re-boot. > > > > Chuck > > > > PSPlease forgive the rant - sometimes answers like "read the source" > > remind me of being a dyslexic kid and being told "look it up in > > the dictionary" every time I couldn't spell a 4-5 letter word. > > i probably don't like answer 'read the source' as much as you. > that's why i _also_ give the answer. > I think one of the reasons "read the source" falls cold on me is that I'm not a programmer. I know - most of you are in disbelief that such people do exist. We do! Now this is not to say that I can't program - I can. I just don't like learning a specific language's syntax to the point where I avoid programming (that or I delegate it...) So the sources fall lower on my list of references than they should. If Linux is going to succeed with the General Public it's going to need to deal with a greater percentage of people like me. Either that or we should talk about a rewrite in COBOL. :) > but i think it's nice for other people to know where you can find such > informations. > Absolutely!! I was ineffectively trying to point-out that (for me at least) just learning how to find where the information you need to learn about is hard. > before your post i didn't know. > so i've checked myself and answered to you. > Yes. And I'm sorry I vented. Your answer was quick and accurate. AND I THANK YOU!! Truly. > but for people new to linux they may think it's kind of a 'mystery' to know > all options... so i point them to where i find it, _even_ if i agree with the > fact it's hard to find what you need... > There's a lot we take for granted. My father tried Linux once - couldn't get past drive/partition layouts. He's from MS-DOS and has worked in an MS environment so long that what he thinks of as a "drive" is different to what we expect the term to mean. > So the purpose was not to remind you anything, it was just the way i think > best to educate everyone. Please forgive me if you took it otherway. > It wasn't your post that set me off. It was the shear frustration I have at times with the vast amount of knowledge available to us. I *know* that I know a lot about Unix and Linux and networks, yet I can't help but get overwhelmed at times by the volume of material I have yet to learn. > Patrick > Gratefully yours. Chuck -- Chuck Stickelman, Owner E-Mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Practical Network DesignVoice: +1-419-529-3841 9 Chambers Road FAX:+1-419-529-3625 Mansfield, OH 44906-1301 USA
Re: SMP & SCSI resets
On 30-Dec-98, [EMAIL PROTECTED] took time to write : > Setting up LILO isn't going to be a problem...just couldn't remember the > option... i didn't know the option either before your post. >> Ps: to find things like that see the kernel sources. >> for example aic7xxx=no_reset (along with all other options) is clearly >> mentioned at the beginning of /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/aic7xxx.c >> > Yes, you're right. It's there. Though there are 220 or so files in > /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi alone...finding a reference to an option you yes. but you probably aren't using all scsi drivers at the same time ;-) > don't know in the source of a driver you don't use *is* somewhat > problematic. > It's akin to using a dictionary to learn the proper spelling of a word - > it's easy to find the word if you already know how to spell it... > > Thanks again, I'll see if I can get over there tonight to do a re-boot. > > Chuck > > PSPlease forgive the rant - sometimes answers like "read the source" > remind me of being a dyslexic kid and being told "look it up in > the dictionary" every time I couldn't spell a 4-5 letter word. i probably don't like answer 'read the source' as much as you. that's why i _also_ give the answer. but i think it's nice for other people to know where you can find such informations. before your post i didn't know. so i've checked myself and answered to you. but for people new to linux they may think it's kind of a 'mystery' to know all options... so i point them to where i find it, _even_ if i agree with the fact it's hard to find what you need... So the purpose was not to remind you anything, it was just the way i think best to educate everyone. Please forgive me if you took it otherway. Patrick
Re: SMP & SCSI resets
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said [Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > > On 30-Dec-98, [EMAIL PROTECTED] took time to write : > > I seem to remember reading somewhere a LILO/boot command-line option > > to turn-off SCSI reset. Unfortunately, I've not been able to locate > > the reference. > > > > Could one of you kind folks either point me in the right direction, > > or even (***gasp***) tell me the answer! :) > > I don't know the answer to your problem (never had a chance to come close an > SMP machine, lucky you !) > It's a client's machine. Though the client happens to be my wife's company... > But for the lilo option it's no_reset > That's easy. Thank you. > ex: > aic7xxx=no_reset > (change aic7xxx to the name of your SCSI driver) > > you can put it in lilo.conf like that > append="aic7xxx=no_reset" > > or otherwise on the lilo prompt you can type: > linux aic7xxx=no_reset > > if linux is the name of your kernel > > Good luck > Thanks again! Setting up LILO isn't going to be a problem...just couldn't remember the option... > Patrick > > Ps: to find things like that see the kernel sources. > for example aic7xxx=no_reset (along with all other options) is clearly > mentioned at the beginning of /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/aic7xxx.c > Yes, you're right. It's there. Though there are 220 or so files in /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi alone...finding a reference to an option you don't know in the source of a driver you don't use *is* somewhat problematic. It's akin to using a dictionary to learn the proper spelling of a word - it's easy to find the word if you already know how to spell it... Thanks again, I'll see if I can get over there tonight to do a re-boot. Chuck PS Please forgive the rant - sometimes answers like "read the source" remind me of being a dyslexic kid and being told "look it up in the dictionary" every time I couldn't spell a 4-5 letter word. -- Chuck Stickelman, Owner E-Mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Practical Network DesignVoice: +1-419-529-3841 9 Chambers Road FAX:+1-419-529-3625 Mansfield, OH 44906-1301 USA
RE: SMP & SCSI resets
On 30-Dec-98, [EMAIL PROTECTED] took time to write : > I seem to remember reading somewhere a LILO/boot command-line option > to turn-off SCSI reset. Unfortunately, I've not been able to locate > the reference. > > Could one of you kind folks either point me in the right direction, > or even (***gasp***) tell me the answer! :) I don't know the answer to your problem (never had a chance to come close an SMP machine, lucky you !) But for the lilo option it's no_reset ex: aic7xxx=no_reset (change aic7xxx to the name of your SCSI driver) you can put it in lilo.conf like that append="aic7xxx=no_reset" or otherwise on the lilo prompt you can type: linux aic7xxx=no_reset if linux is the name of your kernel Good luck Patrick Ps: to find things like that see the kernel sources. for example aic7xxx=no_reset (along with all other options) is clearly mentioned at the beginning of /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/aic7xxx.c
SMP & SCSI resets
Howdy All! I've finally got my SMP machine spinning both CPU's. (Seems that the MB was jumpered wrong...) However, when I boot the system the Adaptec SCSI Controller gets stuck while resetting. I seem to remember reading somewhere a LILO/boot command-line option to turn-off SCSI reset. Unfortunately, I've not been able to locate the reference. Could one of you kind folks either point me in the right direction, or even (***gasp***) tell me the answer! :) It'll be fun having both CPU's *and* SCSI drives (seeing how this is a SCSI-only system it's kinnda important for those drives to be available...) Thanks in advance!! Chuck -- Chuck Stickelman, Owner E-Mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Practical Network DesignVoice: +1-419-529-3841 9 Chambers Road FAX:+1-419-529-3625 Mansfield, OH 44906-1301 USA