Re: SMP & SCSI resets

1998-12-30 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, 30 Dec 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 : To be honest, It's been a while since I played with that system and I had
 : forgotten that the 2740 installed uses aic7xxx.  I was too quick to call

2740s are notoriously spastic if there are other SCSI drivers linked
into the kernel.  I've never gotten a 2740 to work unless I've compiled
a custom kernel with only the SCSI support I need (on those machines,
2740 only).

You may be on the right track with no_reset ...

Oh, the BootPrompt HOWTO tells you all the funky switches for most every
driver ... easier than reading the source, too.

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Re: SMP & SCSI resets

1998-12-30 Thread stick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said
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> 
> On 30-Dec-98, [EMAIL PROTECTED] took time to write :
> > Setting up LILO isn't going to be a problem...just couldn't remember the
> > option...
> 
> i didn't know the option either before your post.
>  
> >> Ps: to find things like that see the kernel sources.
> >> for example aic7xxx=no_reset (along with all other options) is clearly
> >> mentioned at the beginning of /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/aic7xxx.c
> >> 
> > Yes, you're right.  It's there.  Though there are 220 or so files in
> > /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi alone...finding a reference to an option you
> 
> yes. but you probably aren't using all scsi drivers at the same time ;-)
> 
True.
To be honest, It's been a while since I played with that system and I had
forgotten that the 2740 installed uses aic7xxx.  I was too quick to call
for help, perhapslive and learn.

> > don't know in the source of a driver you don't use *is* somewhat
> > problematic.
> > It's akin to using a dictionary to learn the proper spelling of a word -
> > it's easy to find the word if you already know how to spell it...
> > 
> > Thanks again, I'll see if I can get over there tonight to do a re-boot.
> > 
> > Chuck
> > 
> > PSPlease forgive the rant - sometimes answers like "read the source"
> >   remind me of being a dyslexic kid and being told "look it up in
> >   the dictionary" every time I couldn't spell a 4-5 letter word.
> 
> i probably don't like answer 'read the source' as much as you.
> that's why i _also_ give the answer.
> 
I think one of the reasons "read the source" falls cold on me is that
I'm not a programmer.  I know - most of you are in disbelief that such people
do exist.  We do!  Now this is not to say that I can't program - I can.
I just don't like learning a specific language's syntax to the point where
I avoid programming (that or I delegate it...)  So the sources fall lower
on my list of references than they should.

If Linux is going to succeed with the General Public it's going to need
to deal with a greater percentage of people like me.  Either that or we
should talk about a rewrite in COBOL.  :)

> but i think it's nice for other people to know where you can find such
> informations.
> 
Absolutely!! I was ineffectively trying to point-out that (for me at least)
just learning how to find where the information you need to learn about is
hard.

> before your post i didn't know.
> so i've checked myself and answered to you.
> 
Yes.  And I'm sorry I vented.  Your answer was quick and accurate.
AND I THANK YOU!!  Truly.

> but for people new to linux they may think it's kind of a 'mystery' to know
> all options... so i point them to where i find it, _even_ if i agree with the
> fact it's hard to find what you need...
> 
There's a lot we take for granted.  My father tried Linux once - couldn't
get past drive/partition layouts.  He's from MS-DOS and has worked in an
MS environment so long that what he thinks of as a "drive" is different to
what we expect the term to mean.

> So the purpose was not to remind you anything, it was just the way i think
> best to educate everyone. Please forgive me if you took it otherway.
> 
It wasn't your post that set me off.  It was the shear frustration I have
at times with the vast amount of knowledge available to us.  I *know* that
I know a lot about Unix and Linux and networks, yet I can't help but get
overwhelmed at times by the volume of material I have yet to learn.

> Patrick
> 
Gratefully yours.
Chuck

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Re: SMP & SCSI resets

1998-12-30 Thread pat

On 30-Dec-98, [EMAIL PROTECTED] took time to write :
> Setting up LILO isn't going to be a problem...just couldn't remember the
> option...

i didn't know the option either before your post.
 
>> Ps: to find things like that see the kernel sources.
>> for example aic7xxx=no_reset (along with all other options) is clearly
>> mentioned at the beginning of /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/aic7xxx.c
>> 
> Yes, you're right.  It's there.  Though there are 220 or so files in
> /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi alone...finding a reference to an option you

yes. but you probably aren't using all scsi drivers at the same time ;-)

> don't know in the source of a driver you don't use *is* somewhat
> problematic.
> It's akin to using a dictionary to learn the proper spelling of a word -
> it's easy to find the word if you already know how to spell it...
> 
> Thanks again, I'll see if I can get over there tonight to do a re-boot.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> PSPlease forgive the rant - sometimes answers like "read the source"
>   remind me of being a dyslexic kid and being told "look it up in
>   the dictionary" every time I couldn't spell a 4-5 letter word.

i probably don't like answer 'read the source' as much as you.
that's why i _also_ give the answer.

but i think it's nice for other people to know where you can find such
informations.

before your post i didn't know.
so i've checked myself and answered to you.

but for people new to linux they may think it's kind of a 'mystery' to know
all options... so i point them to where i find it, _even_ if i agree with the
fact it's hard to find what you need...

So the purpose was not to remind you anything, it was just the way i think
best to educate everyone. Please forgive me if you took it otherway.

Patrick


Re: SMP & SCSI resets

1998-12-30 Thread stick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said
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> 
> On 30-Dec-98, [EMAIL PROTECTED] took time to write :
> > I seem to remember reading somewhere a LILO/boot command-line option
> > to turn-off SCSI reset.  Unfortunately, I've not been able to locate
> > the reference.
> > 
> > Could one of you kind folks either point me in the right direction,
> > or even (***gasp***) tell me the answer!  :)
> 
> I don't know the answer to your problem (never had a chance to come close an
> SMP machine, lucky you !)
> 
It's a client's machine.  Though the client happens to be my wife's
company...

> But for the lilo option it's no_reset
> 
That's easy.  Thank you.

> ex:
> aic7xxx=no_reset
> (change aic7xxx to the name of your SCSI driver)
> 
> you can put it in lilo.conf like that 
> append="aic7xxx=no_reset"
> 
> or otherwise on the lilo prompt you can type:
> linux aic7xxx=no_reset
> 
> if linux is the name of your kernel
> 
> Good luck
> 
Thanks again!

Setting up LILO isn't going to be a problem...just couldn't remember the
option...

> Patrick
> 
> Ps: to find things like that see the kernel sources.
> for example aic7xxx=no_reset (along with all other options) is clearly
> mentioned at the beginning of /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/aic7xxx.c
> 
Yes, you're right.  It's there.  Though there are 220 or so files in
/usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi alone...finding a reference to an option you
don't know in the source of a driver you don't use *is* somewhat problematic.
It's akin to using a dictionary to learn the proper spelling of a word - it's
easy to find the word if you already know how to spell it...

Thanks again, I'll see if I can get over there tonight to do a re-boot.

Chuck

PS  Please forgive the rant - sometimes answers like "read the source"
remind me of being a dyslexic kid and being told "look it up in
the dictionary" every time I couldn't spell a 4-5 letter word.

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RE: SMP & SCSI resets

1998-12-30 Thread pat

On 30-Dec-98, [EMAIL PROTECTED] took time to write :
> I seem to remember reading somewhere a LILO/boot command-line option
> to turn-off SCSI reset.  Unfortunately, I've not been able to locate
> the reference.
> 
> Could one of you kind folks either point me in the right direction,
> or even (***gasp***) tell me the answer!  :)

I don't know the answer to your problem (never had a chance to come close an
SMP machine, lucky you !)

But for the lilo option it's no_reset

ex:
aic7xxx=no_reset
(change aic7xxx to the name of your SCSI driver)

you can put it in lilo.conf like that 
append="aic7xxx=no_reset"

or otherwise on the lilo prompt you can type:
linux aic7xxx=no_reset

if linux is the name of your kernel

Good luck

Patrick

Ps: to find things like that see the kernel sources.
for example aic7xxx=no_reset (along with all other options) is clearly
mentioned at the beginning of /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/aic7xxx.c


SMP & SCSI resets

1998-12-30 Thread stick

Howdy All!

I've finally got my SMP machine spinning both CPU's.  (Seems that the
MB was jumpered wrong...) However, when I boot the system the Adaptec
SCSI Controller gets stuck while resetting.

I seem to remember reading somewhere a LILO/boot command-line option
to turn-off SCSI reset.  Unfortunately, I've not been able to locate
the reference.

Could one of you kind folks either point me in the right direction,
or even (***gasp***) tell me the answer!  :)

It'll be fun having both CPU's *and* SCSI drives (seeing how this is
a SCSI-only system it's kinnda important for those drives to be available...)

Thanks in advance!!
Chuck

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