Re: Suggestions for an easy-to-setup 10/100 net card?
I never had any problems with one of my 3com 905er cards.. they are just a bit expensive compared to those cards, mentioned before.. Marcus Hanno Böttcher wrote: I have very good experiences with the Realtek (8139) chipset which works without any parameters (PCI) with the module installation at bootup, very easy to setup. Hanno - Original Message - From: Keith G. Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 3:31 PM Subject: Re: Suggestions for an easy-to-setup 10/100 net card? mike polniak wrote: Jeff Weatherford wrote: Bryan Carpenter wrote: I'm a newbie asking for help as to which network card to buy that will just be seen by a standard Debian 2.2.17 install. I've tried a Netgear FA312 and a Linksys LNE100TX rev. 4.1, but neither seems to be easy to set up. I did try getting the tulip driver from scyld.com, but it seems to require munging to compile and use. I'm willing to spend money to get a card that will either just be seen and set up by the default install, or else at most need to have one of the standard optional modules chosen that are offered early in the Debian install. Have done half a dozen Debian installs with D-Link DFE-530TX+ and all kernels from 2.16 up recognize the card. It uses rtl8139 or rtl8139.tOO drivers. Standard module for 2.2.17 is rtl8139. Kernel 2.2.18 has both modules set. This card is fast and inexpensive. I have never had any problems installing it with Linux. I have had good luck with the Linksys LNE2000 (Ether16 Lan), which works seamlessly with the ne2000 driver, once you take it out of PnP mode. It is still being sold (by McGlen, at least), but it is an ISA card that only does 10M. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- All true wisdom is found on T-Shirts
Re: Suggestions for an easy-to-setup 10/100 net card?
mike polniak wrote: Jeff Weatherford wrote: Bryan Carpenter wrote: I'm a newbie asking for help as to which network card to buy that will just be seen by a standard Debian 2.2.17 install. I've tried a Netgear FA312 and a Linksys LNE100TX rev. 4.1, but neither seems to be easy to set up. I did try getting the tulip driver from scyld.com, but it seems to require munging to compile and use. I'm willing to spend money to get a card that will either just be seen and set up by the default install, or else at most need to have one of the standard optional modules chosen that are offered early in the Debian install. Have done half a dozen Debian installs with D-Link DFE-530TX+ and all kernels from 2.16 up recognize the card. It uses rtl8139 or rtl8139.tOO drivers. Standard module for 2.2.17 is rtl8139. Kernel 2.2.18 has both modules set. This card is fast and inexpensive. I have never had any problems installing it with Linux. I have had good luck with the Linksys LNE2000 (Ether16 Lan), which works seamlessly with the ne2000 driver, once you take it out of PnP mode. It is still being sold (by McGlen, at least), but it is an ISA card that only does 10M.
Re: Suggestions for an easy-to-setup 10/100 net card?
I have very good experiences with the Realtek (8139) chipset which works without any parameters (PCI) with the module installation at bootup, very easy to setup. Hanno - Original Message - From: Keith G. Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 3:31 PM Subject: Re: Suggestions for an easy-to-setup 10/100 net card? mike polniak wrote: Jeff Weatherford wrote: Bryan Carpenter wrote: I'm a newbie asking for help as to which network card to buy that will just be seen by a standard Debian 2.2.17 install. I've tried a Netgear FA312 and a Linksys LNE100TX rev. 4.1, but neither seems to be easy to set up. I did try getting the tulip driver from scyld.com, but it seems to require munging to compile and use. I'm willing to spend money to get a card that will either just be seen and set up by the default install, or else at most need to have one of the standard optional modules chosen that are offered early in the Debian install. Have done half a dozen Debian installs with D-Link DFE-530TX+ and all kernels from 2.16 up recognize the card. It uses rtl8139 or rtl8139.tOO drivers. Standard module for 2.2.17 is rtl8139. Kernel 2.2.18 has both modules set. This card is fast and inexpensive. I have never had any problems installing it with Linux. I have had good luck with the Linksys LNE2000 (Ether16 Lan), which works seamlessly with the ne2000 driver, once you take it out of PnP mode. It is still being sold (by McGlen, at least), but it is an ISA card that only does 10M. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Suggestions for an easy-to-setup 10/100 net card?
Bryan Carpenter wrote: I'm a newbie asking for help as to which network card to buy that will just be seen by a standard Debian 2.2.17 install. I've tried a Netgear FA312 and a Linksys LNE100TX rev. 4.1, but neither seems to be easy to set up. I did try getting the tulip driver from scyld.com, but it seems to require munging to compile and use. I'm willing to spend money to get a card that will either just be seen and set up by the default install, or else at most need to have one of the standard optional modules chosen that are offered early in the Debian install. I just noticed this and would like to share my recent experience, in the hope that it helps someone else. I also had a Linksys LNE100TX card, and built from the Debian 2.2.17 source package, and told it to use the 'tulip' driver, building it into the kernel. The new kernel didn't find the card. Tried building it with tulip as a module; that didn't help. Got the latest source for tulip from www.scyld.com, and tried gcc'ing it on its own. Had trouble with it finding libraries, like modversions.h, as I recall. The solution that worked was: 1. Putting all the .c and .h files in the /usr/src/linux/drivers/net directory 2 Using 'make menuconfig' to tell it to generate 'tulip' as a module 3. Modifying /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/Makefile to build 'pci-scan' as well as 'tulip' 4. 'make-kpkg binary --revision whatever' (which I customarily do) to create my binary kernel package. Built like a charm. Modified /etc/modules.conf to have 'alias eth0 tulip'. 'insmod pci-scan' 'insmod tulip' And the card was recognized, and 'ifconfig eth0 up' worked. This seems a very easy and Debian-nice way to get the card up and running. It's probably not quite kosher to put pci-scan in the drivers/net directory, since it can pertain to other devices, but what the hey... I'll try building the stuff static someday when I get the time.
Re: Suggestions for an easy-to-setup 10/100 net card?
Bryan Carpenter wrote: I'm a newbie asking for help as to which network card to buy that will just be seen by a standard Debian 2.2.17 install. I've tried a Netgear FA312 and a Linksys LNE100TX rev. 4.1, but neither seems to be easy to set up. I did try getting the tulip driver from scyld.com, but it seems to require munging to compile and use. I'm willing to spend money to get a card that will either just be seen and set up by the default install, or else at most need to have one of the standard optional modules chosen that are offered early in the Debian install. Personally I use 3com cards because they are supported by everything, everywhere...as I don't believe in Intel as a company, even though their nic cards are supported everywhere. :-) When I built my last debian (potato) box, I used a 3com 3c905b (apx $30-$35 US), and compiled the support for the card as a module (the package to support this card is 3c590). It has worked from the start and has never quit on me yet :-) The package is available in the list of nics during the install process. hope that helps some, jeff
Re: Suggestions for an easy-to-setup 10/100 net card?
Jeff Weatherford wrote: Bryan Carpenter wrote: I'm a newbie asking for help as to which network card to buy that will just be seen by a standard Debian 2.2.17 install. I've tried a Netgear FA312 and a Linksys LNE100TX rev. 4.1, but neither seems to be easy to set up. I did try getting the tulip driver from scyld.com, but it seems to require munging to compile and use. I'm willing to spend money to get a card that will either just be seen and set up by the default install, or else at most need to have one of the standard optional modules chosen that are offered early in the Debian install. Have done half a dozen Debian installs with D-Link DFE-530TX+ and all kernels from 2.16 up recognize the card. It uses rtl8139 or rtl8139.tOO drivers. Standard module for 2.2.17 is rtl8139. Kernel 2.2.18 has both modules set. This card is fast and inexpensive. I have never had any problems installing it with Linux. -- ~~~
Re: Suggestions for an easy-to-setup 10/100 net card?
On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 10:17:14AM -0600, Keith G. Murphy wrote: Bryan Carpenter wrote: I'm a newbie asking for help as to which network card to buy that will just be seen by a standard Debian 2.2.17 install. I've tried a Netgear FA312 and a Linksys LNE100TX rev. 4.1, but neither seems to be easy to set up. I did try getting the tulip driver from scyld.com, but it seems to require munging to compile and use. I'm willing to spend money to get a card that will either just be seen and set up by the default install, or else at most need to have one of the standard optional modules chosen that are offered early in the Debian install. Missed the original note... My only purchase of a card has been an SMC 1211TX EZCard 10/100. Uses the 8139too driver directly. Works with no problems, no fuss, no mess... Can't say whether the driver is part of a standard kernel image, though. $12 (?) at Compusa. Kenward -- It is not so very important for a person to learn facts. For that he doesn't really need a college education, for he can learn them from books. The value of an education in a liberal arts college is not the learning of many facts but the training of the mind to thinking--something that cannot be learned from books. Albert Einstein
Suggestions for an easy-to-setup 10/100 net card?
I'm a newbie asking for help as to which network card to buy that will just be seen by a standard Debian 2.2.17 install. I've tried a Netgear FA312 and a Linksys LNE100TX rev. 4.1, but neither seems to be easy to set up. I did try getting the tulip driver from scyld.com, but it seems to require munging to compile and use. I'm willing to spend money to get a card that will either just be seen and set up by the default install, or else at most need to have one of the standard optional modules chosen that are offered early in the Debian install. I would like a 10/100 10BaseT card that uses an efficient architecture so it doesn't load the processor unduly, and I also want it to have good WinME and Win2K drivers. I notice that the Debian install just sees my Adaptec SCSI card, and I'd like to get a network card that is similarly mainstream so as to be easily set up. Is there a currently-mainstream card that meets the above requirements yet sells for not much above the $60 range? I'm willing to spend more for the convenience, but I'd like to keep it in that range if possible. Thanks in advance for any help! Bryan Carpenter _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
RE: Suggestions for an easy-to-setup 10/100 net card?
On 10-Jan-2001 Bryan Carpenter wrote: I'm a newbie asking for help as to which network card to buy that will just be seen by a standard Debian 2.2.17 install. I've tried a Netgear FA312 and a Linksys LNE100TX rev. 4.1, but neither seems to be easy to set up. I did try getting the tulip driver from scyld.com, but it seems to require munging to compile and use. I'm willing to spend money to get a card that will either just be seen and set up by the default install, or else at most need to have one of the standard optional modules chosen that are offered early in the Debian install. odd, I find pci network controllers to be uniformly easy. insert card turn on machine insmod driver # in your case tulip Generally if this is not working, you have hardware conflicts (too many cards, or perhaps cards trying to be on similar settings).
Re: Suggestions for an easy-to-setup 10/100 net card?
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 04:20:18PM -0700, Bryan Carpenter wrote: I would like a 10/100 10BaseT card that uses an efficient architecture so it doesn't load the processor unduly, and I also want it to have good WinME and Win2K drivers. I am satisfied with my Realtek 8139 cards. They are very cheap but reliable for me and according to several benchmarks they are faster than much more expensive 3Coms. They just work and don't cause any trouble. Setting it up is really simple. There exists an kernel-module which just has to be loaded (if it was built) and it should work. Phil
Re: Suggestions for an easy-to-setup 10/100 net card?
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 04:20:18PM -0700, Bryan Carpenter wrote: I'm a newbie asking for help as to which network card to buy that will just be seen by a standard Debian 2.2.17 install. I've tried a Netgear FA312 and a Linksys LNE100TX rev. 4.1, but neither seems to be easy to set up. I did try getting the tulip driver from scyld.com, but it seems to require munging to compile and use. I'm willing to spend money to get a card that will either just be seen and set up by the default install, or else at most need to have one of the standard optional modules chosen that are offered early in the Debian install. I would like a 10/100 10BaseT card that uses an efficient architecture so it doesn't load the processor unduly, and I also want it to have good WinME and Win2K drivers. Well i just did a couple of installs using a D-Link DFE-530TX+. You can load the rtl8139.o module and config the network during the actual install, so you are ready to d/l pks from the net after setting up the base system. This is a very good 10/100 NIC with Win2k drivers. These cards have recently been on sale for $10-20. Just plug it in and go. It even has wake-on-lan if your m/b supports it. The rtl8139 driver is already compiled as a module in Debian 2.17 kernel.
Re: Suggestions for an easy-to-setup 10/100 net card?
On Jan 10 2001, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: odd, I find pci network controllers to be uniformly easy. Indeed. The days of terror of ISA cards and conflicts are almost gone. For instance, my new motherboard doesn't even come with ISA slots anymore. Anyway, I have had good luck with el-cheapo NICs like my Realtek RTL8139. And it works like a charm, even though it is not like an Intel card (which I've been told are the best ones regarding performance and machine load). []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: Suggestions for an easy-to-setup 10/100 net card?
On Jan 11 2001, Philipp Schulte wrote: I am satisfied with my Realtek 8139 cards. Yes, I use this card and I'm also happy with it. They are very cheap but reliable for me and according to several benchmarks they are faster than much more expensive 3Coms. Well, I've never seen NIC benchmarks, but I'm actually quite interested (especially if they are Linux based). Could you provide some references, please? They just work and don't cause any trouble. Ditto. Setting it up is really simple. There exists an kernel-module which just has to be loaded (if it was built) and it should work. Yes. BTW, in recent kernels (like 2.2.18) there are actually two modules for this card. One of them is Donald Becker's rtl8139 and the other is Geff Garzik's 8139too. I'm only familiar with Becker's (as it works wonderfully here). []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
NIC Performance Linux (was: Re: Suggestions for an easy-to-setup 10/100 net card?)
On Jan 10 2001, Rogerio Brito wrote: On Jan 11 2001, Philipp Schulte wrote: I am satisfied with my Realtek 8139 cards. They are very cheap but reliable for me and according to several benchmarks they are faster than much more expensive 3Coms. Well, I've never seen NIC benchmarks, but I'm actually quite interested (especially if they are Linux based). Could you provide some references, please? Well, the only thing that I could find about NIC benchmarks and the mentioned cards was: http://www.beowulf.org/pipermail/beowulf/2000-November/010570.html Other comments and/or benchmarks are welcome as this is something that I'd like to learn more about. []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: Suggestions for an easy-to-setup 10/100 net card?
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 04:20:18PM -0700, Bryan Carpenter wrote: | I'm a newbie asking for help as to which network | card to buy that will just be seen by a standard | Debian 2.2.17 install. I've tried a Netgear FA312 | and a Linksys LNE100TX rev. 4.1, but neither seems | to be easy to set up. I did try getting the tulip | driver from scyld.com, but it seems to require munging | to compile and use. I'm willing to spend money to get a I have the Linksys card and have had no trouble with it at all. The tulip driver should already be compiled as a module. # add this line to /etc/modules.conf alias eth0 tulip Better than putting that in modules.conf, put it in /etc/modutils/aliases and run update-modules. I would highly recommend the Linksys card since it has worked so well for me out-of-the-box and is only $24 US. (compare to 3Com at ~ $90 US). It even comes with the driver (tulip.c) on the floppy in the package. I didn't have any trouble compiling it -- the first time I tried I didn't understand modules so I built it statically. The standard kernel source dist has tulip.c in it, I simply copied the newer one from the disk to the source tree and rebuilt. -D
Re: Suggestions for an easy-to-setup 10/100 net card?
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 10:30:33PM -0200, Rogerio Brito wrote: They are very cheap but reliable for me and according to several benchmarks they are faster than much more expensive 3Coms. Well, I've never seen NIC benchmarks, but I'm actually quite interested (especially if they are Linux based). Could you provide some references, please? Yes, I do have some reference. In it's #16 in 1999 the german computer-technology magazine c't (http://www.heise.de) printed some benchmarks of 25 different NICs with different OSes. If you are interested I can mail them privately to you (because they contain jpegs). Setting it up is really simple. There exists an kernel-module which just has to be loaded (if it was built) and it should work. Yes. BTW, in recent kernels (like 2.2.18) there are actually two modules for this card. One of them is Donald Becker's rtl8139 and the other is Geff Garzik's 8139too. I'm only familiar with Becker's (as it works wonderfully here). I used the old module till the release of 2.4.0 Both work fine. Phil
