Re[2]: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...
Remco Blaakmeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: I believe that the only version that netscape installs is 3.01. Has this changed? (not to be confused with the netscape4 installer). I just checked. It hasn't. I'm at a loss to understand why the Debian netscape pkg, or any other wrapper, is felt to be necessary. What I've done for many months, through versions 3.01 to 3.04 of NS, is use the gnumalloc lib mentioned in the FAQ at the BlackDown site, and the simple script also found there. I unzip the NS tarball into /usr/local/netscape, and place gnumalloc.so in /lib. Then in /usr/local/bin I place this little script, called netscape. #!/bin/sh export CLASSPATH=/usr/local/netscape/java_301:. export LD_PRELOAD=/lib/gnumalloc.so exec /usr/local/netscape/netscape $@ Works like a charm, AFAIK. No problems with snazzy Java sites. Any drawbacks to this, anyone? --- Bob Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Esmond, R.I. http://www.brainiac.com/bernie -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Re[2]: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...
On Fri, Jan 16, 1998 at 07:44:36PM -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: I'm at a loss to understand why the Debian netscape pkg, or any other wrapper, is felt to be necessary. What I've done for many months, through Because it allows dpkg to manage the software. Like remove it if you wish, and make sure it has the appropriate libraries it needs. I unzip the NS tarball into /usr/local/netscape, and place gnumalloc.so in /lib. Then in /usr/local/bin I place this little script, called netscape. You've added files to a vendor area of the file system. That's another reason for using dpkg. hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...
Þann 16-Jan-98 skrifar Richard E. Hawkins Esq.: err, I wasn't clear. The only netscape 3 that can be installed is 3.01. I haven't even considered 4, after watching it bring a 400mhz, 350meg alpha to its knees . . . I'm using Communicator professional here, 4.03, on a 486DX/2 66 with 20Meg of ram. I even have a libc6 system, with libc5 as alternative runtime environment, and still the Communicator runs ok. Orn Einar Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice+fax; +46 035 217194 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...
On 15 Jan, Richard E Hawkins Esq wrote: unless something has changed, the only version of netscape which can be installed by the debian packages is 3.01. Nope. Communicator 4.03 installs fine using the netscape deb in hamm. I got a similiar message when I first tried using it though because I had used the netscape installer as a temporary fix (until I found the deb) I manually deleted the netscape dir and the binary/link and all went well. Tim -- ## # # # # # # ## ## # # # # # Debian GNU Linux ## # # # # # # ## # ## # # # # Power to the people... # # # ## # # E-Mail: Tim Ferrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...
unless something has changed, the only version of netscape which can be installed by the debian packages is 3.01. Can the Debian package be updated? It's a bit of a pain using a version of Netscape that isn't (closer to) current. I guess it probably doesn't matter now we have hamm, but it would still be nice :-) What about installing Netscape in /usr/local/? Is Netscape 3.01 installed by Debian better than Netscape 3.04 installed in /usr/local? I already downloaded 3.04, don't really want to get an older version! Actually, I installed 3.04 with the Debian package - just to see what would happen, but I think I will uninstall it and put it in /usr/local. Any ideas? Thanks, Tim. --- Debian/GNU Linux... the maintainable operating system. http://www.debian.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...
Tim Thomson wrote: What about installing Netscape in /usr/local/? I guess it would not follow the FSTND/Debian's politic. Normally, Debian packages are installed in the /usr directories; /usr/local is left for local/non-debian applications. However, you can install Netscape 4 wherever you want: you just have to set the MOZILLA_HOME environment variable to tell it where's its home dir. Is Netscape 3.01 installed by Debian better than Netscape 3.04 installed in /usr/local? I have not tried to install Netscape 3.01 with the Debian's installation package, but there are lots of differences between NS-3.01 and NS-4.04... The installation procedure may have changed. I already downloaded 3.04, don't really want to get an older version Neither do I, even if NS-4 requires lots of system resources ! Actually, I installed 3.04 with the Debian package - just to see what would happen, but I think I will uninstall it and put it in /usr/local. Netscape provides a script for installing Communicator. I've used it to install Communicator under /usr/local/produits/sv-cguvaens/netscape and had no problem (remember that with such directories you need to set the MOZILLA_HOME variable !). Hope it helps, Seb. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...
According to Curt Howland: Good afternoon. I tried to install Netscape Communicator, and received the error that it needed libc6, which I do not have. So I went back to use the old netscape 3.01 (i think) that I had been using, but it seems to have been partially purged. I say partially, because when I went to install v3.04, I got the following message: ian# dpkg -i netscape_3.01-4.deb (Reading database ... 19956 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking netscape (from netscape_3.01-4.deb) ... - This release is for a different version of netscape than the one installed. Please 'dpkg --purge netscape netscape-beta' and reinstall this package. You will need the original 3.01 source archive from Netscape to do this. Place the source archive in /tmp. dpkg: error processing netscape_3.01-4.deb (--install): subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: netscape_3.01-4.deb So, I tried getting the old copy, as below, Curt- I installed it, using the the Debian script, by simply changing the name of the tar-ball: mv netscape_3.01*.tar.gz netscape_3.04*.tar.gz (or something like, it's from my memory, you have to put in the _complete_ correct file names. But it is obvious.). Yes, the script recommends not to do it, but it works. It conflicts, however with NS4 anyway (which I installed to /usr/local). kws -- O##OO##O O##O O##O ==The famous SchwebebahnAA==suspension==AA===AA===railway===AA Dr. Karl-Wilhelm Schulte AA AA AA AA Bergische Univ.-GH/HRZ ,__AA__AA___AA_AA___. Gaussstr. 20 | || || || |X| |X| || || || | D-42097 Wuppertal | || || || |X| |X| || || || | Tel 0202/4392807,Fax -2910 |_|| ||___|| |X|_|X| ||___|| ||_| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | |X X| | | | | `==+=+=+=+X===X+=+=+=+==' -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...
tim wrote, On 15 Jan, Richard E Hawkins Esq wrote: unless something has changed, the only version of netscape which can be installed by the debian packages is 3.01. Nope. Communicator 4.03 installs fine using the netscape deb in hamm. I got a similiar message when I first tried using it though because I had used the netscape installer as a temporary fix (until I found the deb) I manually deleted the netscape dir and the binary/link and all went well. err, I wasn't clear. The only netscape 3 that can be installed is 3.01. I haven't even considered 4, after watching it bring a 400mhz, 350meg alpha to its knees . . . -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...
On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: tim wrote, On 15 Jan, Richard E Hawkins Esq wrote: unless something has changed, the only version of netscape which can be installed by the debian packages is 3.01. Nope. Communicator 4.03 installs fine using the netscape deb in hamm. I got a similiar message when I first tried using it though because I had used the netscape installer as a temporary fix (until I found the deb) I manually deleted the netscape dir and the binary/link and all went well. err, I wasn't clear. The only netscape 3 that can be installed is 3.01. Installed by which package? There is a netscape package in stablecontrib and there are netscape3 and netscape4 packages in unstable/contrib . Have you tried both the netscape and the netscape3 packages? I haven't even considered 4, after watching it bring a 400mhz, 350meg alpha to its knees . . . :-( Remco -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...
remco remarked, On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: err, I wasn't clear. The only netscape 3 that can be installed is 3.01. Installed by which package? There is a netscape package in stablecontrib and there are netscape3 and netscape4 packages in unstable/contrib . Have you tried both the netscape and the netscape3 packages? I believe that the only version that netscape installs is 3.01. Has this changed? (not to be confused with the netscape4 installer). -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...
On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: remco remarked, On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: err, I wasn't clear. The only netscape 3 that can be installed is 3.01. Installed by which package? There is a netscape package in stablecontrib and there are netscape3 and netscape4 packages in unstable/contrib . Have you tried both the netscape and the netscape3 packages? I believe that the only version that netscape installs is 3.01. Has this changed? (not to be confused with the netscape4 installer). I just checked. It hasn't. Does anybody know what harm renaming the .tar.gz file can cause? I know it can go right, but can it go wrong? Remco -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...
Rather than renaming netscape-v304-export.x86-unknown-linux-elf.tar so that you can use the .deb installer for the netscape 3 version, it's fairly simple to hack the 3 netscape related install files in /var/lib/dpkg/info. Simply search for all instances of 301 and change it to 304, then do the same with the Packages.contrib file. (As always, keep an original copy of the file you're about to edit in case something goes wrong). I did exactly this and got a clean install of netscape-v304 with no complaints from dpkg. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...
Good afternoon. I tried to install Netscape Communicator, and received the error that it needed libc6, which I do not have. So I went back to use the old netscape 3.01 (i think) that I had been using, but it seems to have been partially purged. I say partially, because when I went to install v3.04, I got the following message: ian# dpkg -i netscape_3.01-4.deb (Reading database ... 19956 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking netscape (from netscape_3.01-4.deb) ... - This release is for a different version of netscape than the one installed. Please 'dpkg --purge netscape netscape-beta' and reinstall this package. You will need the original 3.01 source archive from Netscape to do this. Place the source archive in /tmp. dpkg: error processing netscape_3.01-4.deb (--install): subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: netscape_3.01-4.deb So, I tried getting the old copy, as below, ian# cp ~howland/netscape-v301-export_x86-unknown-linux-elf_tar.gz . ian# dpkg --purge netscape netscape-beta dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove netscape which isn't installed. dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove netscape-beta which isn't installed. Any ideas? Any way to tell what version of Netscape had been installed, just incase I have 3.02 or some such? Maybe I should just try purging .02 and .03 as well, and maybe get lucky... Curt- ps: replies to email, please, as I have been unable to keep up with the list when subscribed... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...
unless something has changed, the only version of netscape which can be installed by the debian packages is 3.01. To make matters worse, if you use the netscape installer, it places its files earlier in the search path than the .deb does. I believe that du / | grep netscape will find the incidences of netscape files. I know that I found them somehow. Either that, or tar -ztvf netscape3.02.tgz to get a listing of it's files, then manually remove them. I went thorugh this last year, and it took months to find the problem. rick -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...
unless something has changed, the only version of netscape which can be installed by the debian packages is 3.01. ... I went thorugh this last year, and it took months to find the problem. rick Rick, Many thanks. I'll see what I can do. What a bummer, since Netscape has 3.04 for Linux, that it won't install cleanly. Anyway, as usual, no problem I can imagine hasn't already happened to someone. I don't play with my system all that much, being somewhat paranoid about breaking something Curt- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...
Curt Howland wrote: Good afternoon. I tried to install Netscape Communicator, and received the error that it needed libc6, which I do not have. So I went back to use the old netscape 3.01 (i think) that I had been using, but it seems to have been partially purged. Hmm. I use Communicator 4.03 with libc5. Is this a new version? I say partially, because when I went to install v3.04, I got the following message: ian# dpkg -i netscape_3.01-4.deb (Reading database ... 19956 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking netscape (from netscape_3.01-4.deb) ... - This release is for a different version of netscape than the one installed. Please 'dpkg --purge netscape netscape-beta' and reinstall this package. You will need the original 3.01 source archive from Netscape to do this. Place the source archive in /tmp. dpkg: error processing netscape_3.01-4.deb (--install): subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: netscape_3.01-4.deb Did you have the netscape...tar to install in your /tmp directory? If I remember right that is where it must be to use the .deb install script. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
