Demon APMd et arrêt des hdd

2006-01-03 Thread Yann Messiaen

Bonjour à tous et bonne année,

Je suis toujours sur mon problème d'arrêt des disques durs quand il n'y 
a pas d'activité.
J'essaie d'utiliser le démon apmd pour faire un suspend, et donc la 
commande apm -s. Cela permet de mettre la machine en suspend mais 
cela me coupe du coup le réseau. Le gros problème c'est que je dois 
pouvoir reveiller la machine en accèdant à un partage Samba :/

Si quelqu'un à une idée je suis ouvert à toutes propositions :)


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Re: Demon APMd et arrê t des hdd

2006-01-03 Thread Francois Mescam
Le Tue, Jan 03, 2006 à 09:55:14AM +0100, Yann Messiaen a écrit
 Bonjour à tous et bonne année,
 
 Je suis toujours sur mon problème d'arrêt des disques durs quand il n'y 
 a pas d'activité.
 J'essaie d'utiliser le démon apmd pour faire un suspend, et donc la 
 commande apm -s. Cela permet de mettre la machine en suspend mais 
 cela me coupe du coup le réseau. Le gros problème c'est que je dois 
 pouvoir reveiller la machine en accèdant à un partage Samba :/
 Si quelqu'un à une idée je suis ouvert à toutes propositions :)

Sur mes laptops j'utilise laptop-mode (apt-get install laptop-mode-tool) qui
me convient parfaitement. Je suppose qu'il peut aussi servir sur un desktop,
mais je n'ai pas essayé.

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usb-storage + apmd

2005-07-08 Thread Carl-Fredrik Enell
Hej!

APM-suspend har slutat fungera på min laptop. Den hänger sig istället för
att gå i suspendläget och boven verkar vara usb-storage.
Det finns inte längre några skript i /etc/apm/events.d som tar bort och
återställer usb-drivare. Vart har de tagit vägen- för om jag minns rätt så
har det funnits ?

Hälsningar Fredrik





apmd with module-assistant

2005-06-17 Thread Eric Persson
Is is possible to install apm support in the kernel through 
module-assistant? I havent found any packages that seems to do this, I 
really like to keep the stock kernel, but just add apmd support. Or do I 
need to do the whole compile new kernel stuff?


Btw, thanks to everyone that makes debian and gnome works so good on my 
laptop!


Best regards,
Eric


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Re: apmd with module-assistant

2005-06-17 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 11:06:01AM +0200, Eric Persson wrote:
 Is is possible to install apm support in the kernel through 
 module-assistant? I havent found any packages that seems to do this, I 
 really like to keep the stock kernel, but just add apmd support. Or do I 
 need to do the whole compile new kernel stuff?
 
 Btw, thanks to everyone that makes debian and gnome works so good on my 
 laptop!
 
 Best regards,
   Eric
Hi eric,
I think you need to add 'apm' to /etc/modules and install 'apmd'
cheers,
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removed apmd but it still seems to be there

2004-03-28 Thread Lorenzo Prince
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I am using acpi in place of apm because it allows me to press the power button
to shutdown the computer.  I can easily accidentally press the power button, so
it is good to have it go through the shutdown sequence or even do nothing instead
of powering down without performing the shutdown actions, which could possibly
corrupt my filesystem.

Well, here's the deal.  I turned acpi on in the boot loader and removed apmd, but
the system is still trying to use apm.  I tried removing powermgmt-base, but
doing so would remove the entire gnome system.  What can I do to fix this
problem?

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Re: removed apmd but it still seems to be there

2004-03-28 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello

Lorenzo Prince ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 I am using acpi in place of apm because it allows me to press the
 power button to shutdown the computer.  I can easily accidentally 
 press the power button, so it is good to have it go through the 
 shutdown sequence or even do nothing instead of powering down without 
 performing the shutdown actions, which could possibly corrupt my 
 filesystem.
 
 Well, here's the deal.  I turned acpi on in the boot loader and
 removed apmd, but the system is still trying to use apm.  I tried 
 removing powermgmt-base, but doing so would remove the entire gnome 
 system.  What can I do to fix this problem?  

What exactly does still trying to use apm mean? Does it try to use the
apm driver instead of the acpi driver? Did you compile apm support as a
module, or into the kernel? Did you try the apm=off boot parameter?
Did you rerun lilo after changing the config file?

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: removed apmd but it still seems to be there

2004-03-28 Thread Alexis Huxley
 I am using acpi in place of apm because it allows me to press the power button
 to shutdown the computer.  I can easily accidentally press the power button, so
 it is good to have it go through the shutdown sequence or even do nothing instead
 of powering down without performing the shutdown actions, which could possibly
 corrupt my filesystem.

 Well, here's the deal.  I turned acpi on in the boot loader and removed apmd, but
 the system is still trying to use apm.  I tried removing powermgmt-base, but
 doing so would remove the entire gnome system.  What can I do to fix this
 problem?

How did you remove apm? (precise commands please). How do you know that
the system is still trying to use apm?

Alexis


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Re: removed apmd but it still seems to be there

2004-03-28 Thread Lorenzo Prince
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Thus spake Andreas Janssen:
# What exactly does still trying to use apm mean?

Well, I am guessing that's what it's doing when it prints to the console and
dmesg the following error message:

apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x07 (Driver version 1.16ac)
apm: overridden by ACPI.

It also prints a fatal error to the console saying that when it is trying to
insert the apm module that there is no such device.  But that isn't sent to
dmesg.  I apologize.  I guess I should have clarified what is happening a little
better.

# Does it try to use the apm driver instead of the acpi driver?

Not exactly.  It seems to keep trying to load the apm driver even though the acpi
driver is already loaded.

# Did you compile apm support as a module, or into the kernel?

I am currently running a stock 2.6.4 kernel which has apm compiled as a module.

# Did you try the apm=off boot parameter?

Yes.  No luck.  Same thing happens.

# Did you rerun lilo after changing the config file?

I actually decided to try grub, so I didn't have to run anything after changing
the config file.

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Re: removed apmd but it still seems to be there

2004-03-28 Thread Lorenzo Prince
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Thus spake Alexis Huxley:
# How did you remove apm? (precise commands please).

apt-get --purge remove apmd

# How do you know that the system is still trying to use apm?

apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x07 (Driver version 1.16ac)
apm: overridden by ACPI.

sent to /var/log/messages and dmesg command.  The same lines are printed to the
console along with a fatal error inserting /lib/modules/2.6.4-1/.../apm.ko no
such device message.  The last message isn't sent to /var/log/messages or dmesg.

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Re: removed apmd but it still seems to be there

2004-03-28 Thread Rajesh Menon
hi, i can't seem to find your previous mails on the list page, and i had
deleted them from my account, so ...

did you remove the apm packages? u have removed the apm argument from
lilo, and since you have built it in as a module, is it still there in
/etc/modutils (i'm not sure how this would make a difference if apm is
removed, but its worth a shot?)

hth.

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 Thus spake Andreas Janssen:
 # What exactly does still trying to use apm mean?

 Well, I am guessing that's what it's doing when it prints to the console and
 dmesg the following error message:

 apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x07 (Driver version 1.16ac)
 apm: overridden by ACPI.

 It also prints a fatal error to the console saying that when it is trying to
 insert the apm module that there is no such device.  But that isn't sent to
 dmesg.  I apologize.  I guess I should have clarified what is happening a little
 better.

 # Does it try to use the apm driver instead of the acpi driver?

 Not exactly.  It seems to keep trying to load the apm driver even though the acpi
 driver is already loaded.

 # Did you compile apm support as a module, or into the kernel?

 I am currently running a stock 2.6.4 kernel which has apm compiled as a module.

 # Did you try the apm=off boot parameter?

 Yes.  No luck.  Same thing happens.

 # Did you rerun lilo after changing the config file?

 I actually decided to try grub, so I didn't have to run anything after changing
 the config file.

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Re: removed apmd but it still seems to be there

2004-03-28 Thread Lorenzo Prince
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Thus spake Rajesh Menon:
# did you remove the apm packages? u have removed the apm argument from
# lilo, and since you have built it in as a module, is it still there in
# /etc/modutils (i'm not sure how this would make a difference if apm is
# removed, but its worth a shot?)

I have removed the apmd package and there never was an apm boot parameter, so I
added apm=off to my boot parameters.  I just tried removing /etc/modutils/apm
and I will see how that goes, although like you, I don't see how that could be
causing the problem if a) acpi is enabled and b) apm is explicitly disabled.

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APMD Under Debian Woody

2002-06-30 Thread Tom Badran
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Using woody, i have apmd installed. But the /etc/init.d/apmd script does 
nothing regardless of what option (Start|Stop|etc) i pass to it (doesnt even 
print the warning when you pass no options). The only way i can get apmd to 
start is by issuing the apmd command. I havent altered the script or any 
settings, the only difference being i use a custom compiled 2.4.18 kernel, 
which has working apm (it works fine if i manually run the command). Any 
ideas on how to fix the script, is it a know problem? Or do you need more 
info.

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Re: apmd nur für Laptop's / Save to Disk

2002-04-22 Thread Stefan Thäter

On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 02:35:45 +0200, Jürgen Dollinger wrote:
 
 Funktioniert das Schreiben in dieses file auch wenn Linux laeuft? Wenn
 es wirklich das BIOS ist das es tut sollte das ja keine Rolle spielen.

Genau.
Habe bei mir nachgeschaut (unter Linxu): Windows-Partition gemountet
und sum -r auf save2dsk.bin losgelassen. Nach einem Suspend/Resume war 
der Inhalt des Files ein anderer.

 
 Ich hab naemlich auch so ein file auf der XP-Partition (NTFS). Und mit
 Windows tuts auch. Klappe zu und alles geht von selber aus. Aber wenn
 ich im BIOS nach irgendwelchen Einstellungen suche findet sich nix fuer
 APM.

Bei mir (Phoenix BIOS) unter Power-Suspend Mode.

stefan


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apmd nur für Laptop's?

2002-04-11 Thread Karin Gerbrich

Hallo!

Ich habe Woody mit Kernel 2.4.18 als Server laufen (ohne X) und ich möcht
ihn eigentlich durchlaufen lassen, nicht jeden Abend abschalten.
Aber dieser Server macht halt ziemlich Lärm (Lüfter?, Festplatte?).

Ich hab jetzt mit
apt-cache search apm
gesucht, als Ergebnis unter anderem apmd bekommen, da steht aber dabei:
Utilities for Advanced Power Management (APM) for Laptops.

Mag vielleicht naiv sein, die Frage, aber kann ich mit apmd meinen Server
schlafen schicken (auch wenn er kein Laptop ist), so dass er nur dann
lärmt, wenn er gebraucht wird, oder gibt es da andere Tools dafür?

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Re: apmd nur für Laptop's?

2002-04-11 Thread Philipp Tölke

At 12:37 11.04.2002 +0200, you wrote:
Ich habe Woody mit Kernel 2.4.18 als Server laufen (ohne X) und ich möcht
ihn eigentlich durchlaufen lassen, nicht jeden Abend abschalten.
Aber dieser Server macht halt ziemlich Lärm (Lüfter?, Festplatte?).

je nachdem was es fürn prozessor ist, kann man den Lüfter auch auf 5V 
laufen lassen, oder einen leisen (Pabst, etc...) einsetzten.

und zu der festplatte weiss ich nichts...

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Re: apmd nur für Laptop's?

2002-04-11 Thread Stefan Thäter

On Don, Apr 11, 2002 at 17:03:53 +0200, Jürgen Dollinger wrote:
 
 Suspend to disk hab ich noch nicht probiert. Bisher konnte mir niemand
 sagen ob die entsprechende Partition eine primaere sein muss oder nicht.

Habe zwar kein Amilo, aber auch ein FSC-Laptop (B2154), da läuft alles
bestens. 2 Bemerkungen: a) Es gibt ein Hibernation Preparation Tool von
Phoenix (den BIOS Leuten), bei mir heißt das phdisk.exe, damit kann man
sich den Speicherbereich auf Platte für das suspend to disk einrichten.
(http://fsc-pc.de/Knowhow_DriverCD/Install.Anl/D/Allg/PHDISK/Install_NT.htm)
Von Haus aus (also FSC) war alles so eingerichtet, daß das BIOS ein File in
der Window-Partition benutzt (\save2dsk.bin), ich selbst mußte das Tool nicht
anwerfen.

b) Wenn der Onboard-LAN-Chip aktiviert ist (siehe BIOS-Setup), dann geht
das BIOS des B2154 lediglich in suspend to ram.

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apmd, ac-on/off

2002-03-26 Thread Damien Pous
salut !

j'ai un pb avec apmd sur un portable tout neuf :
(sony vaio z600lek)
avec woody, noyau 2.4.18 perso
apmd ne fonctionne pas bien :
j'aimerais le configurer pour qu'il envoie sigHUP au
démon noflushd à chaque changement d'état de l'alimentation
(ac on/off), afin d'adapter le la gestion de mon dd à la situation...
(tout ça est expliqué ds la doc de noflushd)

j'arrive à savoir si l'alim (ac) est branchée ou pas : 
apm -d fonctionne
lookat --la-prise aussi :-)

j'ai mis un script dans /etc/apm/events.d
qui fait killall -HUP noflushd qd il faut
mais il n'est jamais exécuté
(même si c un ln -s sur ../scripts/...)

en fait, 
/etc/apm/apmd_proxy, qui est cencé être exécuté à chaque
évennement APM, ne l'est que pour start, stop, 
et suspend usr, pas pour power change !?

qqn a-t-il déjà eu ce problème...
doit-je finalement me faire un démon qui surveille l'état
(avec apm -d)...

au passage comment se fait-il que la doc d'APM soit si légère ?

merci,
damien


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Re: Configurar APMD

2001-06-22 Thread José Luis Triviño
Miguel Angel wrote:
 
 Saludotes.  Mucho hemos escrito  en esta lista sobre el AMP,
 el soporte en el kernel (2.2.x y 2.4.x) pero con todo aún no
 he conseguido que el comando  halt  apague la fuente del PC.
 Sin embargo, probé con la SysRQ 'o'  (Alt + PrintScreen + o)
 y el resultado fué perfecto.  Mi pregunta es,  si el soporte
 está  en el  kernel y funciona,  ¿cómo se configura el  apmd
 para que  apague la  fuente de alimentación  con el  comando
 halt?
Hola,
Si te sirve de algo, a mi el halt no me apagaba el ordenador (un IBM
thinkpad 760XL) hasta que cambié el kernel a 2.4.5. Después de eso (y
sin hacer ningún otro cambio) el halt funciona a las mil maravillas.
Además he notado que funciones como pasar a modo suspendido o
hibernación se activan más rapidamente (antes había un retardo de varios
segundos entre pulsar la tecla y el comienzo del proceso).

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Configurar APMD

2001-06-21 Thread Miguel Angel

Saludotes.  Mucho hemos escrito  en esta lista sobre el AMP,
el soporte en el kernel (2.2.x y 2.4.x) pero con todo aún no
he conseguido que el comando  halt  apague la fuente del PC.
Sin embargo, probé con la SysRQ 'o'  (Alt + PrintScreen + o)
y el resultado fué perfecto.  Mi pregunta es,  si el soporte
está  en el  kernel y funciona,  ¿cómo se configura el  apmd
para que  apague la  fuente de alimentación  con el  comando
halt?

Gracias desde ya.

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Re: APMD

2001-06-12 Thread first last
   Se supone que eso ya se ha comentado en esta misma 
lista, el kernel por defecto de Debian tiene apm, pero
no
activado, asi que tienes que decirle que lo active al
cargar el kernel (creo que era apm=on como opcion).

   Si me equivoco ya sabeis, bronca (que me la
merezco).

   Hasta otra

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Re: APMD

2001-06-10 Thread Antonio Castro
On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, miguel wrote:

 
 Saludos debianeros
 
  Soy novicio en Debian, he conseguido instalarlo
 sin problemas en un portatil de 2º mano que tengo..
 todo ha ido bien me pilla las PCMCIA del CDROM
 externo , el modem/red ,etc... mi pregunta es :
 
 ?pero en que parte de la instalación activo en el
 Kernel , el demonio APMD, de indicación
 de carga de la bateria?¿..me lo instaló con todo
 el soporte que lleva Debian de modulos PCMCIA
 pero no me lo activa en el kernel..:-(
 
 ?¿me va a tocar reconfigurar el núcleo?¿...

Quizas no tengas que compilar el kernel. Intenta con 'modconf'.

Tampoco debés pensar en la compilación del kernel como algo complicado.

Esta operación considerada como algo reservada para especvialistas en
otros sistemas no lo es en e caso de Linux. En Linux es algo relativamente
sencillo. No digo que no se pueda meter la pata pero no es tan complicado
y generalmente la eliminación de componentes innecesarios en el núcleo
permite obtener un kernel más reducido y por ello más eficiente.

Tres consejos. 

1) Deja el kernel viejo con almenos una entrada en LILO para arrancar en 
caso de que el nuevo falle.

2) No pongas como módulo ningún componente que resulte necesario antes de
que el sistema arranque y monte la partición raiz. Resultaría imposible 
cargarlo.

3) Lee un poquito sobre el tema antes de hacerlo. Nunca viene mal.

 ?¿sabeis de otra solución?...
 
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APMD

2001-06-09 Thread miguel

Saludos debianeros

 Soy novicio en Debian, he conseguido instalarlo
sin problemas en un portatil de 2º mano que tengo..
todo ha ido bien me pilla las PCMCIA del CDROM
externo , el modem/red ,etc... mi pregunta es :

?pero en que parte de la instalación activo en el
Kernel , el demonio APMD, de indicación
de carga de la bateria?¿..me lo instaló con todo
el soporte que lleva Debian de modulos PCMCIA
pero no me lo activa en el kernel..:-(

?¿me va a tocar reconfigurar el núcleo?¿...
?¿sabeis de otra solución?...



apmd, toshutils, etc. on non-X laptop (Toshiba T1910)?

2001-04-01 Thread Shaun Crossley
I've set up an old Toshiba T1910 laptop (8MB RAM, 125MB HD, 486SX/33) with
Debian Potato, and am having great fun tweaking it to do what I want while
still being fairly economical with respect to drive space consumed. I'm
awaiting a used Xircom Realport combo 56K modem and 10/100 NIC (eBay is
wonderful!) so that I can make use of the laptop as a network analysis tool,
among other things.

That said, I'd really like to use the apmd and toshutils packages so that I
can make use of the hardware to its fullest. However, both of these packages
contain various X components which seem to prevent me from doing a simple
apt-get install. (I've chosen not to install any X-related packages, in
order to save space on the 100MB partition left over after designating swap
space, etc.) When I try to apt-get install apmd toshutils, it wants to
download stuff like libglib1.2, libgtk1.2, xfree86-common, xlib6g, xpm4g,
etc.  I'd prefer to avoid wasting space on X-stuff like this.

For the time being, I've downloaded the deb's and will manually force them
to install, hoping to avoid the X dependencies, but my question is this: has
anyone out there built apmd and toshutils *without* the X components?  Or
would I have to do that myself (a daunting prospect, as I'm quite new to
Debian)?

Or am I barking up the wrong tree? Perhaps there's a very simpler way to do
what I want. If so, I'd like to learn how!

I look forward to any replies. Thank you!

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Problem with my apmd daemon !

1999-12-27 Thread Di Prétoro Emmanuel
Hi,

I've recompiled my kernel with the apm support, I reboot, but when I launch
apmd, the error is : No APM support in the kernel, but I'm sure my kernel is
this apm support.
What is the problem ?
Is there a configuration file or another manipulation ?

Regards,

Manu


Re: apmd

1998-09-21 Thread Obi
Have you checked the BIOS setup of your laptop? As far as I can tell apmd
shouldn't suspend arbitrarily your machine: try to run without apmd jsut to
check if the laptop goes to sleep. If yes, the problem is in the setup of your
BIOS.

graziano

On Sun, Sep 20, 1998 at 05:34:43PM -0500, D'jinnie wrote:
 I can't seem to locate any conf files for apmd. What I'd like it to do is
 not to suspend when my laptop is not running off of the battery. Any
 ideas?
 
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apmd

1998-09-20 Thread D'jinnie
I can't seem to locate any conf files for apmd. What I'd like it to do is
not to suspend when my laptop is not running off of the battery. Any
ideas?

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Re: laptop resume and apmd

1997-09-25 Thread Olaf Weber
Bruce Perens writes:

 My hypothesis is that apmd is swapped out when the user-suspend signal
 comes in (because there is so little RAM). It takes too long to run, and
 thus the laptop doesn't suspend properly. I also notice that it is logging
 resume, but not suspend.

 Is anyone else experiencing this?

No.  Another guess at what may be happening is that the computer shuts
down during a write to the disk.  AFAIK, the APM BIOS will signal to
apmd that it has received a suspend request, and then wait for a
confirmation that it can perform the actual suspend operation.  If no
confirmation arrives within 20 seconds, it will suspend regardless.

apmd, upon receipt of a suspend request, calls sync, sleeps for 2
seconds, and then signals to the APM BIOS that the machine is ready
for the suspend.  Perhaps these 2 seconds aren't long enough and the
suspend happens during the write to disk.  (Not using apmd means that
the disk isn't sync'ed at all.)

A possible solution might then be to get the sources of apmd and make
it sleep longer before suspending.  The relevant sleep call is found
in the apm_suspend function in apmlib.c.

-- 
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laptop resume and apmd

1997-09-24 Thread Bruce Perens
I had a problem with laptop resume. I'm running a Toshiba 440CDT laptop,
with 16M ram and a 800x600 24-bit deep display. I have it set up to suspend
when the cover is closed and resume when it is opened. When I am running
apmd, I am subject to resume failures - you have to cold-boot the OS and
check the filesystems. I removed apmd and the problem cleared up.

My hypothesis is that apmd is swapped out when the user-suspend signal
comes in (because there is so little RAM). It takes too long to run, and
thus the laptop doesn't suspend properly. I also notice that it is logging
resume, but not suspend.

Is anyone else experiencing this?

Thanks

Bruce Perens
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apmd interation with powersave option in XFree

1996-09-19 Thread Giuseppe Vacanti


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