Re: dualboot linux and NT?
>> Still, I'm not sure if NT 4.0 doesn't support FAT32. Its a nonissue for me since all I use partition 2 for is the pagefile.sys. > >Unless they introduced it in SP4, it doesn't. > Windows NT doesn't provide support for FAT32 out-of-the-box, but there are thrid-party programs that allow you to access FAT32 partitions. eg. FAT32 by Winternals (www.winternals.com) If any replies are made to this message, please email me a copy as I no longer subscribe to the debian-user@lists.debian.org mailing list. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: dualboot linux and NT?
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 06:50:32PM -0500, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote: > Hmmm ... I just checked and indeed my second partition is FAT16. > Still, I'm not sure if NT 4.0 doesn't support FAT32. Its a nonissue > for me since all I use partition 2 for is the pagefile.sys. Unless they introduced it in SP4, it doesn't. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org
Re: dualboot linux and NT?
On 21 Jan 1999, Frederick Page wrote: > And I boot LILO with the NT-Bootmanager, also works fine. > > > partition-1 Windows-NT, 4.0-service pack 4, NTFS > > partition-2 FAT32, pagefile.sys, only used for virtual memory > > How does that work? I was always under the impression, that Fat32 was not > supported by NT 4.0. Hmmm ... I just checked and indeed my second partition is FAT16. Still, I'm not sure if NT 4.0 doesn't support FAT32. Its a nonissue for me since all I use partition 2 for is the pagefile.sys. -- Jean Pierre
Re: dualboot linux and NT?
Hi Jean, you wrote on: 20 Jan 99 at 13:14 (received 21.01.99) about : _Re: dualboot linux and NT?_ >> That's exactly the problem, you need to have a FAT16-partition within the >> first 1024 cylinders of the first harddrive. The so-called C: (speaking in >> DOS-/Win-terms). > >This is clearly not true. I have a dual boot configuration on my Dell >Inspiron with one IDE harddrive configured as follows: > > MBR lilo I'm sorry, I did not make myself clear enough: what I meant is, if you have the NT-Bootmanager on the MBR of your hd, it needs the NTLDR, NTDETECT.COM and BOOT.INI on the first Fat16-partition. I have the following configuration (three SCSI-hds, each 2 GB): MBR: NT-Bootmanager sda1 Win 95 (fat 16) 1 GB sda2 Win NT 4.0, SP3 (NTFS) 1 GB sdb1 Linux (ext2) 1.9 GB sbd5 Linux swap 0.1 GB sdc1 Data (fat 16) 2 GB And I boot LILO with the NT-Bootmanager, also works fine. > partition-1 Windows-NT, 4.0-service pack 4, NTFS > partition-2 FAT32, pagefile.sys, only used for virtual memory How does that work? I was always under the impression, that Fat32 was not supported by NT 4.0. Kind regardsFrederick
Re: dualboot linux and NT?
On 19 Jan 1999, Frederick Page wrote: > you wrote on: 18 Jan 99 at 15:30 (received 19.01.99) > about : _Re: dualboot linux and NT?_ > > >WinNT can not boot directly from a slave disk, as far as I know. > > Well, it *can* boot from any disk and any partition, no matter what. > > >It needs to have it's boot files on the active partition on the master > >drive. > > That's exactly the problem, you need to have a FAT16-partition within the > first 1024 cylinders of the first harddrive. The so-called C: (speaking in > DOS-/Win-terms). This is clearly not true. I have a dual boot configuration on my Dell Inspiron with one IDE harddrive configured as follows: MBR lilo partition-1 Windows-NT, 4.0-service pack 4, NTFS partition-2 FAT32, pagefile.sys, only used for virtual memory partition-3 Debian, ext2 partition Remaining Debian filesystems Works fine. -- Jean Pierre
Re: dualboot linux and NT?
Hi Tom, you wrote on: 18 Jan 99 at 15:30 (received 19.01.99) about : _Re: dualboot linux and NT?_ >WinNT can not boot directly from a slave disk, as far as I know. Well, it *can* boot from any disk and any partition, no matter what. >It needs to have it's boot files on the active partition on the master >drive. That's exactly the problem, you need to have a FAT16-partition within the first 1024 cylinders of the first harddrive. The so-called C: (speaking in DOS-/Win-terms). Daryl made several mistakes. Win NT needs a (small) FAT16-partition (C:) in order to boot, this partition has to carry the NTLDR.EXE, boot.ini and other hidden files. I triple-boot my machine with Win 95, Win NT and Linux, no problem at all. linux is on the second hard-disk (the first is completely occupied by both Wins). Here's what to do: create a small FAT16-Partition at the beginning of the drive (Partition Magic, e.g.), put NTLDR and other NT-files there (rescue installation). Boot Linux and create a boot-floppy (if you haven't already got one). Boot Linux and enter dd if=/dev/hda1 bs=512 count=1 of=/boot/bootsec.lin this copies the bootblock from your hd (you might need to change hda1 to hda2 since hda1 is your fat16-partition) to /boot/bootsec.lin Create/modifiy /etc/lilo.conf boot=/boot/bootsec.lin root=/dev/hda1 compact install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map vga=normal delay=3 image=/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 label=linux read-only now run lilo -v -v Now copy the bootsector to your first fat16-partition (whereever you mounted it) cp /boot/bootsec.lin /mnt/drivec/bootsec.lin Now rescue the NT-system (with your NT-CD) restore boot-loader, etc. etc. Edit the boot.ini (on fat16) and add the following line c:\bootsec.lin=linux (remember this file has attributes r s h!) You'll have to re-run lilo and copy the bootsec.lin after kernel-changes (another distribution, re-compile, etc.) Kind regards Frederick
Re: dualboot linux and NT?
On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 05:38:06PM +, Daryl Williams wrote: > folks, > > i have a system running linux debian hamm with kernel 2.0.34. > this system has 2 IDE drives. linux is installed on the 1st disk > and boot using lilo. i have windows NT on the second disk which > is set as a slave IDE disk. when i try to boot windows NT from > lilo i get the an error message from the system that says is cant > find NTLDR. i am assuming this error message is comming from > the NT boot loader. > > i have read the howtos on dual booting but none of them address > this kind of setup with 2 disks. it looks like i might have to edit the > boot.ini file on NT, but that could result in an unbootable system > so i am trying to get some feedback before proceeding that down > road. Do you have any space on the master disk to make a tiny FAT partition? If so, just put some sort of dos on it and look at the Linux+NT+win95 howto (or something like that), set boot=/win95/bootsect.lnx in /etc/lilo.conf (as someone who's name I forgot on the list previously mentioned, neat trick). If you don't have any space but a swap partition, you might just convert the swap partition and setup a swap file instead. -- Rafael Kitover [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgplonZ5bLWvj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: dualboot linux and NT?
WinNT can not boot directly from a slave disk, as far as I know. It needs to have it's boot files on the active partition on the master drive. It is possible to have the bulk of NT on any drive, but the boot files must always be on the master drive. How did you install NT there to begin with? You must have switched drives around at some point, or originally had a FAT16 partition on the master drive. Tom Daryl Williams wrote: > > folks, > > i have a system running linux debian hamm with kernel 2.0.34. > this system has 2 IDE drives. linux is installed on the 1st disk > and boot using lilo. i have windows NT on the second disk which > is set as a slave IDE disk. when i try to boot windows NT from > lilo i get the an error message from the system that says is cant > find NTLDR. i am assuming this error message is comming from > the NT boot loader. > > i have read the howtos on dual booting but none of them address > this kind of setup with 2 disks. it looks like i might have to edit the > boot.ini file on NT, but that could result in an unbootable system > so i am trying to get some feedback before proceeding that down > road. > > any ideas, tips, etc. are welcomed. > > thanks in advance, > > //daryl > -- > Daryl Williams > Network Administrator mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ShareWave, Inc. Phone: 916-939-9400 x3212 > 5175 Hillsdale Circle Fax: 916-939-9434 > El Dorado Hills, CA. 95762Web: http://www.sharewave.com > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
dualboot linux and NT?
folks, i have a system running linux debian hamm with kernel 2.0.34. this system has 2 IDE drives. linux is installed on the 1st disk and boot using lilo. i have windows NT on the second disk which is set as a slave IDE disk. when i try to boot windows NT from lilo i get the an error message from the system that says is cant find NTLDR. i am assuming this error message is comming from the NT boot loader. i have read the howtos on dual booting but none of them address this kind of setup with 2 disks. it looks like i might have to edit the boot.ini file on NT, but that could result in an unbootable system so i am trying to get some feedback before proceeding that down road. any ideas, tips, etc. are welcomed. thanks in advance, //daryl -- Daryl Williams Network Administrator mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ShareWave, Inc. Phone: 916-939-9400 x3212 5175 Hillsdale Circle Fax: 916-939-9434 El Dorado Hills, CA. 95762Web: http://www.sharewave.com