Re: home lan, modem sharing, etc.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 12:50:33AM -0500, Stephen Gran wrote: This one time, at band camp, Vikki Roemer said: Hi! So I have several questions: Can I set up modem sharing with a minimum of hassle for my parents when they go to use it and for free? How? Sure. There is a package called diald that is designed for this, although I have heard mixed reports about how well it works. pppd also has a demand mode that I know works well. Set the client computer to use the other as a gateway, do the proper things for connection sharing there (more information to follow if you don't know what I mean) and it should work fine. Oh, ok. Now I just have to find out how to set up connection sharing. That does sound familiar, though. Hmm... Semi-related question-- do I absolutely *need* Partition Magic to dual-boot Linux and Windows? The thing is, with my dad being out of work, we don't have money for a $60 piece of software. :( No. In my experience, when you're installing both from scrathc (as it sounds like you're going to) just install Windows first - the Debian install at least is smart enough to detect another parasite^W OS on the hard drive, and set up lilo accordingly. If that doesn't work in libranet, the default lilo configuration for Debian has some lines commented out that will point you in the right direction. Basically, Windows will overwrite the MBR without asking, but lilo will do The Right Thing WRT other OS's on the disk. Good. See, I knew that once I got Libranet on the system I could set up lilo to dual-boot properly (I inadvertently learned about it when I set up my computer to dual-boot RH as the secondary OS); I just didn't know if the installer would (should) be smart enough to shove Windows out of the way. Ok, things are looking up... :) Is it possible to set up the mail on my system so that my parents' mailboxen can be accessed with Mozilla on their computer? I tried getting Moz to get mail from localhost but it won't-- will I run into similar problems over a LAN? Again, sure. I run qpopper or the like for LAN-only access - for times where one computer is picking up the mail, but there are likely to be plenty of dumb clients, and no one stores their mail on the server, and you're behind a firewall, straightforward POP3 is easy and fast. If you Oh, good. have more complicated needs, I recommend IMAP and SSL (or TLS). Most I was going to finish setting that up anyway (I started setting up TLS, got in over my head, and now I'm waiting until I have time to pick it back up again). But that's a secondary consideration. Is there anything else I should be setting up? Some iptables-based firewalling, especially for the netbios nastiness, andit looks pretty good here. There's _always_ more to do, but that's a good start. Printer sharing is also nice, and easy to set up with samba and cups. Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention that-- I have iptables set up to filter ppp traffic (basically, if I didn't ask for the packet, it's not getting through). I also have printer sharing set up on the Windows computer (it's my parents' printer, so they keep it), but at this point I'm not sure how well it works; I've also set it up so that the CD-burner on that computer is shared, too-- I think that works, but I'm not entirely sure (UDF is a pain in the butt). BTW, is there a way to get nmbd to listen on eth0 *only*? At the moment, it insists on listening on both eth0's address and on all interfaces. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://www.2khiway.net/users/vroemer Registered Linux user #2880021 http://counter.li.org/ Just because you're not paranoid, that doesn't mean they're not out to get you. (ripped from someone's slashdot .sig) PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+ L+++ E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)+ h! r-- x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- msg27208/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: home lan, modem sharing, etc.
This one time, at band camp, Vikki Roemer said: Oh, ok. Now I just have to find out how to set up connection sharing. That does sound familiar, though. Hmm... Google is your friend - plenty of examples are out there. When you get stuck, write back. iptables in particular makes it easy. snip BTW, is there a way to get nmbd to listen on eth0 *only*? At the moment, it insists on listening on both eth0's address and on all interfaces. in smb.conf: [global] interfaces = eth1 192.168.0.1/24 bind interfaces only = Yes Usual manpages for details. You can specify IP (single or range) or interface. HTH, -- -- | Stephen Gran | I bet the human brain is a kludge. -- | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Marvin Minsky | | http://www.lobefin.net/~steve | | -- msg27309/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
home lan, modem sharing, etc.
Hi! I'm working on setting up a LAN here at home. I have 2 computers here, 1 running Windows ME (within the next few weeks I'll be reinstalling ME (it's that time of the year) and then I'll also be trying to dual-boot ME and Libranet)-- my parents' computer-- and my Linux box, which I'm dual-booting Debian and Redhat on. My parents' computer has a winmodem which keeps on destabilising the system, so I want to disable it and have it connect through my computer's external modem. The computers are currently networked (pretty much-- I'll work out the bugs after the reinstall) and sharing files perfectly with Samba. On my computer, I already have fetchmail/postfix/maildrop set up to get my mail from my ISP, process, and deliver it-- but I don't have a static IP, so it's not a 'free-standing' server; I have Apache set up because I use webmin and dwww. I've already set up amavis/clamav to scan my mail because I'm kinda hoping that I can at best download everyone's mail and process it myself (and use my SMTP server for outgoing mail, which I already do for my own mail), or, at worst, it won't be a total waste because my mail can't be blamed for any infections on the Windows box (it has a mcafee virus scanner, but still...). I also want to be able to store all of my files (even ones generated on the Windows computer) on my computer and be able to access them easily-- but samba seems to work extremely well for that. :) So I have several questions: Can I set up modem sharing with a minimum of hassle for my parents when they go to use it and for free? How? Semi-related question-- do I absolutely *need* Partition Magic to dual-boot Linux and Windows? The thing is, with my dad being out of work, we don't have money for a $60 piece of software. :( Is it possible to set up the mail on my system so that my parents' mailboxen can be accessed with Mozilla on their computer? I tried getting Moz to get mail from localhost but it won't-- will I run into similar problems over a LAN? Is there anything else I should be setting up? TIA. -- Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://www.2khiway.net/users/vroemer Registered Linux user #2880021 http://counter.li.org/ Just because you're not paranoid, that doesn't mean they're not out to get you. (ripped from someone's slashdot .sig) PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C(++) UL P+ L+++ E W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)+ h! r-- x? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- msg27064/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: home lan, modem sharing, etc.
This one time, at band camp, Vikki Roemer said: Hi! So I have several questions: Can I set up modem sharing with a minimum of hassle for my parents when they go to use it and for free? How? Sure. There is a package called diald that is designed for this, although I have heard mixed reports about how well it works. pppd also has a demand mode that I know works well. Set the client computer to use the other as a gateway, do the proper things for connection sharing there (more information to follow if you don't know what I mean) and it should work fine. Semi-related question-- do I absolutely *need* Partition Magic to dual-boot Linux and Windows? The thing is, with my dad being out of work, we don't have money for a $60 piece of software. :( No. In my experience, when you're installing both from scrathc (as it sounds like you're going to) just install Windows first - the Debian install at least is smart enough to detect another parasite^W OS on the hard drive, and set up lilo accordingly. If that doesn't work in libranet, the default lilo configuration for Debian has some lines commented out that will point you in the right direction. Basically, Windows will overwrite the MBR without asking, but lilo will do The Right Thing WRT other OS's on the disk. Is it possible to set up the mail on my system so that my parents' mailboxen can be accessed with Mozilla on their computer? I tried getting Moz to get mail from localhost but it won't-- will I run into similar problems over a LAN? Again, sure. I run qpopper or the like for LAN-only access - for times where one computer is picking up the mail, but there are likely to be plenty of dumb clients, and no one stores their mail on the server, and you're behind a firewall, straightforward POP3 is easy and fast. If you have more complicated needs, I recommend IMAP and SSL (or TLS). Most Windows email apps will allow you to set up the smarthost for outgoing mail and the POP/IMAP server for incoming mail by IP, so you don't even need ot worry about getting Windows lmhosts files working right, which I always find to bw more aggravating than necessary. Is there anything else I should be setting up? Some iptables-based firewalling, especially for the netbios nastiness, andit looks pretty good here. There's _always_ more to do, but that's a good start. Printer sharing is also nice, and easy to set up with samba and cups. -- -- | Stephen Gran | If you can keep your head when all | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | about you are losing theirs, then you | | http://www.lobefin.net/~steve | clearly don't understand the situation. | -- msg27074/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
