Re: how to find the specs of a monitor

2007-06-21 Thread steef

Raquel wrote:

On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:53:17 -0700
Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 03:37:19PM -0400, Kamaraju S
Kusumanchi wrote:


I am trying to setup a dual screen from a laptop with another
  

LCD  monitor. However, this new monitor came without any
manuals,  documentation etc., I know that it is working but I
just dont know the  specs. How can I find out what its
Horizontal frequency and vertical  refresh rates etc. are, so
that I input them into the monitor section of  xorg.conf file?


If it matters, the laptop as such runs Etch (stable).

Any ideas?
  


Well, this may sound stupid and low-tech, but what I did last time
was to Google the monitor make and model.  I got the online manual
for the monitor from that.

  

very fruitful and sensible action in my opinion.

s.


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Re: how to find the specs of a monitor

2007-06-21 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

 On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 07:56:01PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
 
 [...]
 
 
 It is not stupid at all. The problem is that I do not know the model of
 this monitor. All it says on the LCD panel is that it is a Dell monitor.
 There is no other information like model number etc.,
 
 nothing on the back or bottom or anywhere?
 
 WOW!
 
 okay. do this
 
 X -configure
 
 then follow its instructions for starting a dual-head system. It
 probably won't work, but what I'm after is the /var/log/Xorg.0.log it
 produces. There may be monitor information in that log file...
 

When I run

X -configure

The Xorg.0.log is about 20 Kb. Since it is a bit big, I uploaded it to
http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/Xorg.0.log_20070621.txt 

The error messages that appear on the command line are


X Window System Version 7.1.1
Release Date: 12 May 2006
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.1
Build Operating System: UNKNOWN
Current Operating System: Linux kusumanchi.mae.cornell.edu 2.6.18-4-686 #1
SMP Wed Feb 21 16:06:54 UTC 2007 i686
Build Date: 04 April 2007
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Thu Jun 21 14:20:03 2007
List of video drivers:
ark
v4l
apm
i810
sisusb
nsc
ati
cyrix
trident
i128
vga
savage
via
radeon
tseng
tga
chips
voodoo
tdfx
glint
mga
s3virge
fglrx
rendition
siliconmotion
atimisc
r128
dummy
newport
imstt
neomagic
vmware
cirrus
s3
nv
sis
i740
fbdev
vesa

Backtrace:
0: X(xf86SigHandler+0x84) [0x80c4354]
1: [0x40017420]
2: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so(R200Probe+0x121) [0x405e9fd1]
3: X(DoConfigure+0x20c) [0x80b60dc]
4: X(InitOutput+0x66a) [0x80a018a]
5: X(main+0x276) [0x806e486]
6: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xc8) [0x4010eea8]
7: X(FontFileCompleteXLFD+0xa9) [0x806d9d1]

Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11.  Server aborting



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Re: how to find the specs of a monitor

2007-06-21 Thread s. keeling
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
 
  On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 07:56:01PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
 
  It is not stupid at all. The problem is that I do not know the model of
  this monitor. All it says on the LCD panel is that it is a Dell monitor.
  There is no other information like model number etc.,
  
  nothing on the back or bottom or anywhere?
  okay. do this
  
  X -configure
 
  When I run
 
  X -configure
 
  The Xorg.0.log is about 20 Kb. Since it is a bit big, I uploaded it to
  http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/Xorg.0.log_20070621.txt 

Hey Kamaraju.  I can't see anything useful in there.  I'd suggest
hwinfo, but no telling if it would see the second monitor and report
it.  Might be worth a try anyway?

I think your best bet is that read EDID suggestion.  Too bad you
can't just hook it up to another box and boot Knoppix.  That'd sort it
out soon enough.  Bon chance.  :-P


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Re: how to find the specs of a monitor

2007-06-21 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 12:38:30AM +, s. keeling wrote:
 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
  
   On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 07:56:01PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
  
   It is not stupid at all. The problem is that I do not know the model of
   this monitor. All it says on the LCD panel is that it is a Dell monitor.
   There is no other information like model number etc.,
   
   nothing on the back or bottom or anywhere?
   okay. do this
   
   X -configure
  
   When I run
  
   X -configure
  
   The Xorg.0.log is about 20 Kb. Since it is a bit big, I uploaded it to
   http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/Xorg.0.log_20070621.txt 

that log shows a seg fault. Does 'X -configure' produce
/root/xorg.conf.new? 

that log is from the -configure run. What I'd like to see is the
output from

X -config /root/xorg.conf.new

if one is generated. But I suspect its not since the X server
dies. Otherwise, you're kind of shooting blind, but if you can get
xorg to recognise the second pipe or whatever they call a potential
video output, then it will probably detect the monitor reasonably
well. At least enough for you to get a model out of the xorg logs. 

I don't know if we've covered this, but what are your options for the
second video output? is it BIOS controlled? is there a hot key
involved? It may be that the video out isn't turned on??


 
 Hey Kamaraju.  I can't see anything useful in there.  I'd suggest
 hwinfo, but no telling if it would see the second monitor and report
 it.  Might be worth a try anyway?
 
 I think your best bet is that read EDID suggestion.

Both hwinfo and read-edid fail to show the second monitor in my dual
head rig (just got it set up -- w00t!)...


  Too bad you
 can't just hook it up to another box and boot Knoppix.  That'd sort it
 out soon enough.  Bon chance.  :-P

that's the ticket there... 

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how to find the specs of a monitor

2007-06-20 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
I am trying to setup a dual screen from a laptop with another LCD monitor.
However, this new monitor came without any manuals, documentation etc., I
know that it is working but I just dont know the specs. How can I find out
what its Horizontal frequency and vertical refresh rates etc. are, so that
I input them into the monitor section of xorg.conf file?

If it matters, the laptop as such runs Etch (stable).

Any ideas?

thanks
raju
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Re: how to find the specs of a monitor

2007-06-20 Thread Andrew J. Barr
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am trying to setup a dual screen from a laptop with another LCD
 monitor. However, this new monitor came without any manuals,
 documentation etc., I know that it is working but I just dont know
 the specs. How can I find out what its Horizontal frequency and
 vertical refresh rates etc. are, so that I input them into the
 monitor section of xorg.conf file?

The EDID data from the monitor should tell all. Most drivers for modern
hardware have support for parsing this information and configuring
themselves accordingly, and failing that there are command line tools
for this. Google should help you, now that you have an acronym to
search on. :P

 If it matters, the laptop as such runs Etch (stable).
 
 Any ideas?
 
 thanks
 raju


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Re: how to find the specs of a monitor

2007-06-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 03:37:19PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
 I am trying to setup a dual screen from a laptop with another LCD monitor.
 However, this new monitor came without any manuals, documentation etc., I
 know that it is working but I just dont know the specs. How can I find out
 what its Horizontal frequency and vertical refresh rates etc. are, so that
 I input them into the monitor section of xorg.conf file?
 
 If it matters, the laptop as such runs Etch (stable).
 
 Any ideas?

try the read-edid package and specifically

get-ided | parse-edid

as root should give some good information. 

Also, if you have any kind of name (which you might get from edid
above) you can google that. There is a wealth of monitor information
on the web...

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Re: how to find the specs of a monitor

2007-06-20 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

 On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 03:37:19PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
 I am trying to setup a dual screen from a laptop with another LCD
 monitor. However, this new monitor came without any manuals,
 documentation etc., I know that it is working but I just dont know the
 specs. How can I find out what its Horizontal frequency and vertical
 refresh rates etc. are, so that I input them into the monitor section of
 xorg.conf file?
 
 If it matters, the laptop as such runs Etch (stable).
 
 Any ideas?
 
 try the read-edid package and specifically
 
 get-ided | parse-edid
 
 as root should give some good information.
 

This is what I am getting with the above command. I think it is giving
information about only one monitor. If I am correct that information
belongs to the laptop's monitor. What about the external monitor's specs?

$sudo get-edid | parse-edid
parse-edid: parse-edid version 1.4.1
get-edid: get-edid version 1.4.1

Performing real mode VBE call
Interrupt 0x10 ax=0x4f00 bx=0x0 cx=0x0
Function supported
Call successful

VBE version 300
VBE string at 0xc0248 ATI ATOMBIOS

VBE/DDC service about to be called
Report DDC capabilities

Performing real mode VBE call
Interrupt 0x10 ax=0x4f15 bx=0x0 cx=0x0
Function supported
Call successful

Monitor and video card combination does not support DDC1 transfers
Monitor and video card combination supports DDC2 transfers
0 seconds per 128 byte EDID block transfer
Screen is not blanked during DDC transfer

Reading next EDID block

VBE/DDC service about to be called
Read EDID

Performing real mode VBE call
Interrupt 0x10 ax=0x4f15 bx=0x1 cx=0x0
Function supported
Call successful

parse-edid: EDID checksum passed.

# EDID version 1 revision 3
Section Monitor
# Block type: 2:0 3:f
# Block type: 2:0 3:fe
# Block type: 2:0 3:fe
Identifier SEC:5032
VendorName SEC
ModelName SEC:5032
# Block type: 2:0 3:f
# Block type: 2:0 3:fe
# Block type: 2:0 3:fe
# DPMS capabilities: Active off:no  Suspend:no  Standby:no

Mode1680x1050 # vfreq 59.999Hz, hfreq 64.799kHz
DotClock119.23
HTimings1680 1728 1760 1840
VTimings1050 1052 1058 1080
Flags   -HSync -VSync
EndMode
# Block type: 2:0 3:f
# Block type: 2:0 3:fe
# Block type: 2:0 3:fe
EndSection



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Re: how to find the specs of a monitor

2007-06-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 04:19:32PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
 Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
 
  On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 03:37:19PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
  I am trying to setup a dual screen from a laptop with another LCD
  monitor. However, this new monitor came without any manuals,
  documentation etc., I know that it is working but I just dont know the
  specs. How can I find out what its Horizontal frequency and vertical
  refresh rates etc. are, so that I input them into the monitor section of
  xorg.conf file?
  
  If it matters, the laptop as such runs Etch (stable).
  
  Any ideas?
  
  try the read-edid package and specifically
  
  get-ided | parse-edid
  
  as root should give some good information.
  
 
 This is what I am getting with the above command. I think it is giving
 information about only one monitor. If I am correct that information
 belongs to the laptop's monitor. What about the external monitor's specs?
 

hmmm... good point. I don't know is the short version. only you are
looking at themonitors and will be able to tell. 

Again, I recommend you get whatever you can off themonitor itself and
use google. That has always gotten me good information on old or
unknown monitors. 

also, if you're going for dual head, i've found 'X -configure' to be a
useful tool. It puts an xorg.conf.new in /root for you to look
at. MIght be helpful.

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Re: how to find the specs of a monitor

2007-06-20 Thread Raquel
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:53:17 -0700
Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 03:37:19PM -0400, Kamaraju S
   Kusumanchi wrote:
   I am trying to setup a dual screen from a laptop with another
  LCD  monitor. However, this new monitor came without any
  manuals,  documentation etc., I know that it is working but I
  just dont know the  specs. How can I find out what its
  Horizontal frequency and vertical  refresh rates etc. are, so
  that I input them into the monitor section of  xorg.conf file?
   
   If it matters, the laptop as such runs Etch (stable).
   
   Any ideas?

Well, this may sound stupid and low-tech, but what I did last time
was to Google the monitor make and model.  I got the online manual
for the monitor from that.

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Re: how to find the specs of a monitor

2007-06-20 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Raquel wrote:

 On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:53:17 -0700
 Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 03:37:19PM -0400, Kamaraju S
   Kusumanchi wrote:
   I am trying to setup a dual screen from a laptop with another
  LCD  monitor. However, this new monitor came without any
  manuals,  documentation etc., I know that it is working but I
  just dont know the  specs. How can I find out what its
  Horizontal frequency and vertical  refresh rates etc. are, so
  that I input them into the monitor section of  xorg.conf file?
   
   If it matters, the laptop as such runs Etch (stable).
   
   Any ideas?
 
 Well, this may sound stupid and low-tech, but what I did last time
 was to Google the monitor make and model.  I got the online manual
 for the monitor from that.
 

It is not stupid at all. The problem is that I do not know the model of this
monitor. All it says on the LCD panel is that it is a Dell monitor. There
is no other information like model number etc.,

raju

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Re: how to find the specs of a monitor

2007-06-20 Thread Mike McCarty

Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:

I am trying to setup a dual screen from a laptop with another LCD monitor.
However, this new monitor came without any manuals, documentation etc., I
know that it is working but I just dont know the specs. How can I find out
what its Horizontal frequency and vertical refresh rates etc. are, so that
I input them into the monitor section of xorg.conf file?

If it matters, the laptop as such runs Etch (stable).

Any ideas?


You got some useful info, but seemingly can't read the specs.
I suggest you connect it as your *only* monitor, and use the
EDID info from it.

I think that the read-edid is informative, but wanted a more
complete dump. Today is the first I heard of it. But, in any
case, I am working on a program to dump everything in it.
If you need a prelim. version, I can shoot you source, or
an executable. Contact me off-list.

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Re: how to find the specs of a monitor

2007-06-20 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Mike McCarty wrote:

 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
 I am trying to setup a dual screen from a laptop with another LCD
 monitor. However, this new monitor came without any manuals,
 documentation etc., I know that it is working but I just dont know the
 specs. How can I find out what its Horizontal frequency and vertical
 refresh rates etc. are, so that I input them into the monitor section of
 xorg.conf file?
 
 If it matters, the laptop as such runs Etch (stable).
 
 Any ideas?
 
 You got some useful info, but seemingly can't read the specs.
 I suggest you connect it as your *only* monitor, and use the
 EDID info from it.
 

I am trying to connect the external monitor to a laptop. I dont think there
is an option to switch off laptop's monitor and switch on only the external
monitor. At this place, I do not have access to another desktop.

 I think that the read-edid is informative, but wanted a more
 complete dump. Today is the first I heard of it. But, in any 
 case, I am working on a program to dump everything in it.
 If you need a prelim. version, I can shoot you source, or
 an executable. Contact me off-list.
 

You mean you are working on a standalone program which gives complete info
of the monitor specs? or you are working on a program which extracts
information from read-edid and then gives the specs of the monitor? Sorry,
you got me lost with the above paragraph. In any case, I would appreciate
if you can email the source and the executable.

raju

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Re: how to find the specs of a monitor

2007-06-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 07:56:01PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:

[...]


 It is not stupid at all. The problem is that I do not know the model of this
 monitor. All it says on the LCD panel is that it is a Dell monitor. There
 is no other information like model number etc.,

nothing on the back or bottom or anywhere? 

WOW! 

okay. do this

X -configure

then follow its instructions for starting a dual-head system. It
probably won't work, but what I'm after is the /var/log/Xorg.0.log it
produces. There may be monitor information in that log file...

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Re: how to find the specs of a monitor

2007-06-20 Thread Mike McCarty

Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:

Mike McCarty wrote:




[...]


I think that the read-edid is informative, but wanted a more
complete dump. Today is the first I heard of it. But, in any 
case, I am working on a program to dump everything in it.

If you need a prelim. version, I can shoot you source, or
an executable. Contact me off-list.




You mean you are working on a standalone program which gives complete info
of the monitor specs? or you are working on a program which extracts
information from read-edid and then gives the specs of the monitor? Sorry,


It takes the output of read-edid and dumps it in more-or-less human
format.


you got me lost with the above paragraph. In any case, I would appreciate
if you can email the source and the executable.


On its way under separate cover. Remember, this is a preliminary
program which simply runs as a filter. No error checks. No fancy
comments. Just plunge on and do something. If read-edid doesn't get
the info, then this program can't do any more for you. I just wanted
more info from the output.

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Re: how to find the specs of a monitor

2007-06-20 Thread Stephen Cormier
On June 20, 2007 08:56:01 pm Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
 Raquel wrote:
  On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:53:17 -0700
 
  Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 03:37:19PM -0400, Kamaraju S
   
Kusumanchi wrote:
I am trying to setup a dual screen from a laptop with another
   
   LCD  monitor. However, this new monitor came without any
   manuals,  documentation etc., I know that it is working but I
   just dont know the  specs. How can I find out what its
   Horizontal frequency and vertical  refresh rates etc. are, so
   that I input them into the monitor section of  xorg.conf file?
   
If it matters, the laptop as such runs Etch (stable).
   
Any ideas?
 
  Well, this may sound stupid and low-tech, but what I did last time
  was to Google the monitor make and model.  I got the online manual
  for the monitor from that.

 It is not stupid at all. The problem is that I do not know the model of
 this monitor. All it says on the LCD panel is that it is a Dell monitor.
 There is no other information like model number etc.,

When I put my Dell together on the inside back where the stand went into it 
had the model number stamped there perhaps yours does too. Another thing you 
could do is measure the monitor so you know what size it is then start 
googling from that Dell only makes so many models after all, it should be 
relatively easy to find even if you go to Dells site and look at all of them 
of that size. 

 raju

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