Re: mariadb installation question

[Nicholas Geovanis]

On Sat, Feb 27, 2021, 3:09 PM Semih Ozlem 
wrote:

> Hi everyone
>
> I am getting the following error after installing mariadb. Any ideas why
> this would be the case
> It asks for a root password. I previously installed and uninstalled mysql
> and mariadb twice because of errors.
>
> user@debian:/media/user/Windows/usercreatedfolders/debianrepos/mysql$
> sudo mysql_secure_installation
>
> NOTE: RUNNING ALL PARTS OF THIS SCRIPT IS RECOMMENDED FOR ALL MariaDB
>   SERVERS IN PRODUCTION USE!  PLEASE READ EACH STEP CAREFULLY!
>
> In order to log into MariaDB to secure it, we'll need the current
> password for the root user.  If you've just installed MariaDB, and
> you haven't set the root password yet, the password will be blank,
> so you should just press enter here.
>
> Enter current password for root (enter for none):
> Warning: World-writable config file
> '/media/user/Windows/usercreatedfolders/debianrepos/mysql/.my.cnf.1437' is
> ignored
> ERROR 1156 (08S01): Got packets out of order
> Enter current password for root (enter for none):
> Aborting!
>
> Cleaning up...
>

So it's talking about the root password in the system catalog of the
database. Not the root password for the system.

Also this important. It says that your mariadb config file is
world-writable. It might be changed by bad actors, so mariadb is ignoring
it at startup.

>

mariadb installation question

[Semih Ozlem]

Hi everyone

I am getting the following error after installing mariadb. Any ideas why
this would be the case
It asks for a root password. I previously installed and uninstalled mysql
and mariadb twice because of errors.

user@debian:/media/user/Windows/usercreatedfolders/debianrepos/mysql$ sudo
mysql_secure_installation

NOTE: RUNNING ALL PARTS OF THIS SCRIPT IS RECOMMENDED FOR ALL MariaDB
  SERVERS IN PRODUCTION USE!  PLEASE READ EACH STEP CAREFULLY!

In order to log into MariaDB to secure it, we'll need the current
password for the root user.  If you've just installed MariaDB, and
you haven't set the root password yet, the password will be blank,
so you should just press enter here.

Enter current password for root (enter for none):
Warning: World-writable config file
'/media/user/Windows/usercreatedfolders/debianrepos/mysql/.my.cnf.1437' is
ignored
ERROR 1156 (08S01): Got packets out of order
Enter current password for root (enter for none):
Aborting!

Cleaning up...

Re: clamav installation question

[Patrick Bartek]

On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 10:19:56 +0300
Semih Ozlem  wrote:

> Sorry, stopping and restarting the service seems to have solved the
> problem.

Does it work after a cold system restart without restarting it manually?
If not, my guess is some clamav or clamav-daemon dependency is not
getting loaded.  I'm not running the daemon and clamav run manually
works fine. Clamav-freshclam works fine, too, without manually starting
it.  But I'm not running a standard desktop set up. Just a window
manager and a panel.

B



> Semih Ozlem , 26 Şub 2021 Cum, 10:18
> tarihinde şunu yazdı:
> 
> > user@debian:~$ sudo systemctl status clamav-daemon.service
> > ● clamav-daemon.service - Clam AntiVirus userspace daemon
> >Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.service;
> > enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
> >   Drop-In: /etc/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.service.d
> >└─extend.conf
> >Active: inactive (dead)
> > Condition: start condition failed at Fri 2021-02-26 10:15:57 +03;
> > 1min 30s ago
> >└─
> > ConditionPathExistsGlob=/var/lib/clamav/daily.{c[vl]d,inc} was not
> > met Docs: man:clamd(8)
> >man:clamd.conf(5)
> >https://www.clamav.net/documents/
> >
> > Feb 26 10:15:57 debian systemd[1]: Condition check resulted in Clam
> > AntiVirus userspace daemon being skipped.
> >
> > Charles Curley , 26 Şub 2021 Cum,
> > 09:54 tarihinde şunu yazdı:
> >  
> >> On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 08:58:06 +0300
> >> Semih Ozlem  wrote:
> >>  
> >> > I am able to install clamav and clamav-daemon. It appears in
> >> > dpkg -l results. The problem is it is not functioning properly.
> >> > So I am wondering if anyone else had similar issues or not.  
> >>
> >> Can you be a bit more explicit? What did you get, and what were you
> >> expecting?

Re: clamav installation question

[Semih Ozlem]

Sorry, stopping and restarting the service seems to have solved the problem.

Semih Ozlem , 26 Şub 2021 Cum, 10:18
tarihinde şunu yazdı:

> user@debian:~$ sudo systemctl status clamav-daemon.service
> ● clamav-daemon.service - Clam AntiVirus userspace daemon
>Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.service; enabled;
> vendor preset: enabled)
>   Drop-In: /etc/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.service.d
>└─extend.conf
>Active: inactive (dead)
> Condition: start condition failed at Fri 2021-02-26 10:15:57 +03; 1min 30s
> ago
>└─ ConditionPathExistsGlob=/var/lib/clamav/daily.{c[vl]d,inc}
> was not met
>  Docs: man:clamd(8)
>man:clamd.conf(5)
>https://www.clamav.net/documents/
>
> Feb 26 10:15:57 debian systemd[1]: Condition check resulted in Clam
> AntiVirus userspace daemon being skipped.
>
> Charles Curley , 26 Şub 2021 Cum, 09:54
> tarihinde şunu yazdı:
>
>> On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 08:58:06 +0300
>> Semih Ozlem  wrote:
>>
>> > I am able to install clamav and clamav-daemon. It appears in dpkg -l
>> > results. The problem is it is not functioning properly. So I am
>> > wondering if anyone else had similar issues or not.
>>
>> Can you be a bit more explicit? What did you get, and what were you
>> expecting?
>>
>> --
>> Does anybody read signatures any more?
>>
>> https://charlescurley.com
>> https://charlescurley.com/blog/
>>
>>

Re: clamav installation question

[Semih Ozlem]

user@debian:~$ sudo systemctl status clamav-daemon.service
● clamav-daemon.service - Clam AntiVirus userspace daemon
   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.service; enabled;
vendor preset: enabled)
  Drop-In: /etc/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.service.d
   └─extend.conf
   Active: inactive (dead)
Condition: start condition failed at Fri 2021-02-26 10:15:57 +03; 1min 30s
ago
   └─ ConditionPathExistsGlob=/var/lib/clamav/daily.{c[vl]d,inc}
was not met
 Docs: man:clamd(8)
   man:clamd.conf(5)
   https://www.clamav.net/documents/

Feb 26 10:15:57 debian systemd[1]: Condition check resulted in Clam
AntiVirus userspace daemon being skipped.

Charles Curley , 26 Şub 2021 Cum, 09:54
tarihinde şunu yazdı:

> On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 08:58:06 +0300
> Semih Ozlem  wrote:
>
> > I am able to install clamav and clamav-daemon. It appears in dpkg -l
> > results. The problem is it is not functioning properly. So I am
> > wondering if anyone else had similar issues or not.
>
> Can you be a bit more explicit? What did you get, and what were you
> expecting?
>
> --
> Does anybody read signatures any more?
>
> https://charlescurley.com
> https://charlescurley.com/blog/
>
>

Re: clamav installation question

[Charles Curley]

On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 08:58:06 +0300
Semih Ozlem  wrote:

> I am able to install clamav and clamav-daemon. It appears in dpkg -l
> results. The problem is it is not functioning properly. So I am
> wondering if anyone else had similar issues or not.

Can you be a bit more explicit? What did you get, and what were you
expecting?

-- 
Does anybody read signatures any more?

https://charlescurley.com
https://charlescurley.com/blog/

Re: clamav installation question

[john doe]

On 2/26/2021 6:58 AM, Semih Ozlem wrote:

I am able to install clamav and clamav-daemon. It appears in dpkg -l
results. The problem is it is not functioning properly.

>

What do you mean by "not working properly"?

--
John Doe

Re: clamav installation question

[Semih Ozlem]

I am able to install clamav and clamav-daemon. It appears in dpkg -l
results. The problem is it is not functioning properly. So I am wondering
if anyone else had similar issues or not.

Patrick Bartek , 26 Şub 2021 Cum, 00:34 tarihinde şunu
yazdı:

> On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 23:17:52 +0300
> Semih Ozlem  wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone
> >
> > When I try to install clamav I am getting errots
> > When I try to follow installation instructions from debian's site
> > instruction
> >
> > (i) clamav-data package is not available in the repository
> > (ii) freshclam gives the error
> > "!checkdbdir: Can't ope directory /var/lib/clamav/"
> > (iii) I can't be sure if it is running or not. systemctl status
> > clamav-daemon.service states it to be inactive.
> >
> > when I try to follow the instructions on clamav's site
> >
> > check-devel package is a requirement but is unavailable in debian
> > repository.
>
> Check your apt sources.list is set up.  Also, you have to be root to
> install packages.
>
> B
>
>

Re: clamav installation question

[Patrick Bartek]

On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 23:17:52 +0300
Semih Ozlem  wrote:

> Hi everyone
> 
> When I try to install clamav I am getting errots
> When I try to follow installation instructions from debian's site
> instruction
> 
> (i) clamav-data package is not available in the repository
> (ii) freshclam gives the error
> "!checkdbdir: Can't ope directory /var/lib/clamav/"
> (iii) I can't be sure if it is running or not. systemctl status
> clamav-daemon.service states it to be inactive.
> 
> when I try to follow the instructions on clamav's site
> 
> check-devel package is a requirement but is unavailable in debian
> repository.

Check your apt sources.list is set up.  Also, you have to be root to
install packages.

B

Re: clamav installation question

[Dan Ritter]

Semih Ozlem wrote: 
> When I try to install clamav I am getting errots
> When I try to follow installation instructions from debian's site
> instruction
> 
> (i) clamav-data package is not available in the repository
> (ii) freshclam gives the error
> "!checkdbdir: Can't ope directory /var/lib/clamav/"
> (iii) I can't be sure if it is running or not. systemctl status
> clamav-daemon.service states it to be inactive.
> 
> when I try to follow the instructions on clamav's site
> 
> check-devel package is a requirement but is unavailable in debian
> repository.

You just need to install:

clamav  
clamav-base 
clamav-freshclam
libclamav9

and doing

sudo apt install clamav

will bring in clamav-freshclam, which will bring in clamav-base
and libclamav9.

You don't need clamv-data, because clamav-freshclam will update
the data for you.

-dsr-

clamav installation question

[Semih Ozlem]

Hi everyone

When I try to install clamav I am getting errots
When I try to follow installation instructions from debian's site
instruction

(i) clamav-data package is not available in the repository
(ii) freshclam gives the error
"!checkdbdir: Can't ope directory /var/lib/clamav/"
(iii) I can't be sure if it is running or not. systemctl status
clamav-daemon.service states it to be inactive.

when I try to follow the instructions on clamav's site

check-devel package is a requirement but is unavailable in debian
repository.

Re: Debian 10 Installation Question

[Imre Tóth]

Hello, 

I also can recommend for you that, better if you reinstall your system from 
zero. The installer is very easy. If you'll confuse in the questions, it can be 
a good idea if you posting the question and the people will support you from 
here. 

Ciao, Imre

On 2020. 03. 22. 18:58, "Brian"  wrote:

On Sun 22 Mar 2020 at 11:08:53 -0500, Jakub Kuzmicki wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I recently installed Debian 10 on my Dell XPS 15 7590. I was able to get
> > through majority of the installation up until the network mirroring
> > portion. I skipped that part since I wasn't able to find a recognizable
> > mirror to use. So now, when I turn on my computer and boot Debian, I am
> > sent to the terminal. I read somewhere that I can set up the network 
mirror
> > through this terminal.
> 
> My question is, what can I do to fix this issue? Am I not able to boot
> Debian because network mirroring is not set up? I would probably need
> instructions on exactly what to type to get this done if thats the case.

First follow Henning Follman's advice. Installing again will be good
practice for you. At the network mirroring portion look for

  deb.debian.org

This is best for you as a mirror.

-- 
Brian.

Re: Debian 10 Installation Question

[Kent West]

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 11:27 AM Jakub Kuzmicki  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I recently installed Debian 10 on my Dell XPS 15 7590. I was able to get
>> through majority of the installation up until the network mirroring
>> portion. I skipped that part since I wasn't able to find a recognizable
>> mirror to use.
>
>
Do you mean none of the mirrors worked? That means the network portion of
the install failed. If you're installing from a netboot installer, that
means the installer won't be able to go out and get the rest of what it
needs to finish installation.

So now, when I turn on my computer and boot Debian, I am sent to the
>> terminal. I read somewhere that I can set up the network mirror through
>> this terminal.
>
> My question is, what can I do to fix this issue? Am I not able to boot
> Debian because network mirroring is not set up? I would probably need
> instructions on exactly what to type to get this done if thats the case.
>
>
When you mean you are sent to a terminal, do you mean you're sent to a
login in a terminal? Can you log in?

If so, you have installed Debian, although it might be a very minimal
Debian. Can you ping anything (like "ping 8.8.8.8"? Ctrl-C to stop the ping
attempts.)? If so, we can probably pick up the pieces from here (try
"tasksel", and installing the X11 windowing system/Gnome/KDE/etc). If you
can't ping anything, your networking is still broken, and we'll need more
details.

-- 
> Jakub Kuzmicki
>


-- 
Kent West<")))><
Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com

Re: Debian 10 Installation Question

[Daniel Harris]

If you have installed debian then you can setup a mirror in
/etc/apt/sources.list.  But that assumes you are at a debian terminal and
not some grub terminal.  if you can ping out look in /etc/apt/sources and
edit that file

#

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 10.0.0 _Buster_ - Official amd64 NETINST
20190706-10:23]/ buster main

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 10.0.0 _Buster_ - Official amd64 NETINST
20190706-10:23]/ buster main

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main

deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main

# buster-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main

Mine looks like the above

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 4:40 PM Henning Follmann 
wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 11:08:53AM -0500, Jakub Kuzmicki wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I recently installed Debian 10 on my Dell XPS 15 7590. I was able to get
> > > through majority of the installation up until the network mirroring
> > > portion. I skipped that part since I wasn't able to find a recognizable
> > > mirror to use. So now, when I turn on my computer and boot Debian, I am
> > > sent to the terminal. I read somewhere that I can set up the network
> mirror
> > > through this terminal.
> >
> > My question is, what can I do to fix this issue? Am I not able to boot
> > Debian because network mirroring is not set up? I would probably need
> > instructions on exactly what to type to get this done if thats the case.
> >
> > --
> > Jakub Kuzmicki
>
> So where do you think your installer should get any packages?
>
> Follow the install procedures and do not just skip steps because
> you do not understand it, especially if you do not understand!
>
> Basically just hit  until really ask otherwise.
>
> -H
>
>
> --
> Henning Follmann   | hfollm...@itcfollmann.com
>
>

Re: Debian 10 Installation Question

[Brian]

On Sun 22 Mar 2020 at 11:08:53 -0500, Jakub Kuzmicki wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I recently installed Debian 10 on my Dell XPS 15 7590. I was able to get
> > through majority of the installation up until the network mirroring
> > portion. I skipped that part since I wasn't able to find a recognizable
> > mirror to use. So now, when I turn on my computer and boot Debian, I am
> > sent to the terminal. I read somewhere that I can set up the network mirror
> > through this terminal.
> 
> My question is, what can I do to fix this issue? Am I not able to boot
> Debian because network mirroring is not set up? I would probably need
> instructions on exactly what to type to get this done if thats the case.

First follow Henning Follman's advice. Installing again will be good
practice for you. At the network mirroring portion look for

  deb.debian.org

This is best for you as a mirror.

-- 
Brian.

Re: Debian 10 Installation Question

[Joe]

On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 11:08:53 -0500
Jakub Kuzmicki  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I recently installed Debian 10 on my Dell XPS 15 7590. I was able to
> get
> > through majority of the installation up until the network mirroring
> > portion. I skipped that part since I wasn't able to find a
> > recognizable mirror to use. So now, when I turn on my computer and
> > boot Debian, I am sent to the terminal. I read somewhere that I can
> > set up the network mirror through this terminal.  
> 
> My question is, what can I do to fix this issue? Am I not able to boot
> Debian because network mirroring is not set up? I would probably need
> instructions on exactly what to type to get this done if thats the
> case.
> 

No. The mirror is required in order to fully install the system if
using a netinstall medium, and later to upgrade it. It sounds as if
yours isn't fully installed. Once properly installed, it doesn't even
need a network connection to boot.

There are a number of reasons for boot to fail. Obviously one is if not
all the necessary software has been installed, but there are other
reasons. Has your recently installed system ever booted? It should have
done so at the end of the installation, having reminded you to remove
the installation disc/USB medium. If you never got to that point, then
the installation did not complete, and the way forward is to start the
installation again.

Don't worry much about choosing the mirror at the appropriate stage.
Any mirror will work (assuming you have unrestricted Internet access,
if you don't then you should probably not use the netinstall) it's just
that the geographically nearer mirrors are likely to respond a little
quicker. But a mirror on the other side of the planet should work.

If the system has booted at least once but does not now, that's a very
different scenario. What you need to do now is to post word-for-word the
messages you see when it dumps you to a terminal. In general, grub
has failed to find something it needs, perhaps part of the bootloader
code, perhaps a module, perhaps a complete filesystem. The error
messages will give *some* clues about this.

-- 
Joe

Re: Debian 10 Installation Question

[Henning Follmann]

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 11:08:53AM -0500, Jakub Kuzmicki wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I recently installed Debian 10 on my Dell XPS 15 7590. I was able to get
> > through majority of the installation up until the network mirroring
> > portion. I skipped that part since I wasn't able to find a recognizable
> > mirror to use. So now, when I turn on my computer and boot Debian, I am
> > sent to the terminal. I read somewhere that I can set up the network mirror
> > through this terminal.
> 
> My question is, what can I do to fix this issue? Am I not able to boot
> Debian because network mirroring is not set up? I would probably need
> instructions on exactly what to type to get this done if thats the case.
> 
> -- 
> Jakub Kuzmicki

So where do you think your installer should get any packages?

Follow the install procedures and do not just skip steps because
you do not understand it, especially if you do not understand!

Basically just hit  until really ask otherwise.

-H


-- 
Henning Follmann   | hfollm...@itcfollmann.com

Debian 10 Installation Question

[Jakub Kuzmicki]

Hello,

I recently installed Debian 10 on my Dell XPS 15 7590. I was able to get
> through majority of the installation up until the network mirroring
> portion. I skipped that part since I wasn't able to find a recognizable
> mirror to use. So now, when I turn on my computer and boot Debian, I am
> sent to the terminal. I read somewhere that I can set up the network mirror
> through this terminal.

My question is, what can I do to fix this issue? Am I not able to boot
Debian because network mirroring is not set up? I would probably need
instructions on exactly what to type to get this done if thats the case.

-- 
Jakub Kuzmicki

Re: New Motherboard installation question

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 04:57:28PM +, J.W. Foster wrote:
>Any tips are welcome, and no I have not researched this online.

I would say that if you want specific suggestions, posting the actual
error messages is a good start.

>I'm just seeking info from folks that have done this before.

I have a server now that runs Stretch (HP microserver) that began life
in 2002 running Debian 3.0 (Woody).  The original machine was a Pentium
Pro 200 MHz with maybe 16 MB RAM.  It went from that box into a new
small form factor case with a mini-ATX (or was it micro-ATX?)
motherboard and a VIA C7 CPU.  That motherboard eventually failed and
was replaced, then the power supply later failed and that was when I
acquired the HP, which necessitated switching from 32-bit to 64-bit.

My main workstation is in a similar situation.  It started life in 2003
with an AMD Athlon XP CPU on a BioStar motherboard.  That machine went
through 4 motherboards from different manufacturers until a few years
ago I went to another Biostar motherboard with an Intel Core i5 CPU.

In every case, the main things which ended up being factors in the
migration were:

- kernel modules (my configuration either unconditionally loaded
  incompatible modules or blacklisted modules I needed)
- device naming assumptions that were not constant (e.g., references to
  things under /dev/disk/by-uuid)
- Left-over semi-persistent state files (e.g., in /var)

It is difficult to be more specific without the specific error messages
you are seeing.

Regards,

-Roberto

-- 
Roberto C. Sánchez

Re: New Motherboard installation question

[Alexander V. Makartsev]

On 16.11.2017 21:57, J.W. Foster wrote:
> I installed a new motherboard on a system that I run as as a server.
> Same system has 3 1tb disks with Debian stable installed, and 1 with
> Windows 10 installed, all booting at my discretion from grub. I was
> able to get all of the drives to operate, and Im using one for this.
> However I have noticed a crap load of boot error messages when I watch
> the system boot on anything except Windows, as it does not display any
> boot messages. As I said it's working but those error messages were
> not there before I replaced the motherboard, which was in fact
> defective. Both the old board and the new one are ASUS. I figure that
> I need to do some type of Linux maintenance reset, but as I have never
> done a replacement without doing a complete reinstall of all the
> software, I have no idea what to do. Any tips are welcome, and no I
> have not researched this online. I'm just seeking info from folks that
> have done this before.
> Thanks
> John
Can you show us what error messages exactly look like? It will be a good
start.
Use this command to get system logs:
    $ sudo journalctl -b

Also, post full specs of your computer.

It is probably a good idea to check ASUS support site for a BIOS update
for your motherboard, as recent hardware is likely to be rushed to the
market asap and patched later.

-- 
With kindest regards, Alexander.

⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ 
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org
⠈⠳⣄ 

Re: RAID 1 System Installation Question

[Tim McDonough]

Thank you! I will try this procedure this week.

Tim

On 9/18/2015 5:04 PM, linuxthefish wrote:

Tim,

>From what I remember it's best to set it up when you installing the
system, then you can install the bootloader to /boot in RAID 1.

https://blog.sleeplessbeastie.eu/2013/10/04/how-to-configure-software-raid1-during-installation-process/
is what I followed.

Thanks,
Edmund

On 18 September 2015 at 22:11, Tim McDonough  wrote:

I've used Debian Linux for a number of years but up until now always with a
single hard drive.

I want to build a new system that will have a pair of 1TB drives configured
as a RAID-1 mirror. In reading the mdadm Wiki the discussion begins with
installing mdadm.

My goal is to have a system where if either drive fails things will a)
continue to run from a single drive, and b) be able to replace the failed
drive with a new one of the same size and have the system rebuild into a
mirrored array again.

It is not clear to me how I need to begin the installation sequence.

My question: Do I install Debian to a single drive and will installing mdadm
then allow me to add the second disk and setup RAID? Do I need to configure
each drive in some way before installing Debian and then mdadm?

If there is an up-to-date "how to" that describes this please just point me
there. I have not found anything that seems to start at the point where I
just have bare metal.

Regards,

Tim

Re: RAID 1 System Installation Question

[linuxthefish]

Tim,

>From what I remember it's best to set it up when you installing the
system, then you can install the bootloader to /boot in RAID 1.

https://blog.sleeplessbeastie.eu/2013/10/04/how-to-configure-software-raid1-during-installation-process/
is what I followed.

Thanks,
Edmund

On 18 September 2015 at 22:11, Tim McDonough  wrote:
> I've used Debian Linux for a number of years but up until now always with a
> single hard drive.
>
> I want to build a new system that will have a pair of 1TB drives configured
> as a RAID-1 mirror. In reading the mdadm Wiki the discussion begins with
> installing mdadm.
>
> My goal is to have a system where if either drive fails things will a)
> continue to run from a single drive, and b) be able to replace the failed
> drive with a new one of the same size and have the system rebuild into a
> mirrored array again.
>
> It is not clear to me how I need to begin the installation sequence.
>
> My question: Do I install Debian to a single drive and will installing mdadm
> then allow me to add the second disk and setup RAID? Do I need to configure
> each drive in some way before installing Debian and then mdadm?
>
> If there is an up-to-date "how to" that describes this please just point me
> there. I have not found anything that seems to start at the point where I
> just have bare metal.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tim
>

RAID 1 System Installation Question

[Tim McDonough]

I've used Debian Linux for a number of years but up until now always 
with a single hard drive.


I want to build a new system that will have a pair of 1TB drives 
configured as a RAID-1 mirror. In reading the mdadm Wiki the discussion 
begins with installing mdadm.


My goal is to have a system where if either drive fails things will a) 
continue to run from a single drive, and b) be able to replace the 
failed drive with a new one of the same size and have the system rebuild 
into a mirrored array again.


It is not clear to me how I need to begin the installation sequence.

My question: Do I install Debian to a single drive and will installing 
mdadm then allow me to add the second disk and setup RAID? Do I need to 
configure each drive in some way before installing Debian and then mdadm?


If there is an up-to-date "how to" that describes this please just point 
me there. I have not found anything that seems to start at the point 
where I just have bare metal.


Regards,

Tim

Re: debian installation question

[Jerome BENOIT]

Bonsoir,

On 08/08/13 20:15, François Patte wrote:
> Bonjour,
> 
> I would like to make a fresh install of debian and I want to keep my
> previous /home partition ie. forbid the installer to reformat this
> partition.
> 
> I am sure that it is possible,

Indeed, it is possible
Nevertheless, for safety, you may make a backup of your home on an external 
drive
(something as ``cp -prd /home '' can do the work) 

 but at the end of the partitionning step,
> how cna I check which partition will be formated and which won't.

If I remember well, the installer ask for either a generic partionning or a by 
hand one:
you want to choose the by hand option.



> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
>

hth,
Jerome
 


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Re: debian installation question

[cletusjenkins]

 On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 11:15:44 -0700 François 
Patte wrote  

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 > I would like to make a fresh install of debian and I want to keep my 
 > previous /home partition ie. forbid the installer to reformat this 
 > partition. 
 >  
 > I am sure that it is possible, but at the end of the partitionning step, 
 > how cna I check which partition will be formated and which won't. 
 >  
 > Thank you. 
 >  
 > - -- 
 > François Patte 
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If you go through manual partitioning (make sure your old home partiion is set 
to not being used, click on "Done" or "finished" (sorry I forget the exact 
verbage, but it is the last menu item in the manual partition screen) , before 
it  changes anything it will list exactly which partitions it will touch, then 
you have the option to continue or not.


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debian installation question

[François Patte]

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Bonjour,

I would like to make a fresh install of debian and I want to keep my
previous /home partition ie. forbid the installer to reformat this
partition.

I am sure that it is possible, but at the end of the partitionning step,
how cna I check which partition will be formated and which won't.

Thank you.

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Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
Université Paris Descartes
45, rue des Saints Pères
F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
Tél. +33 (0)1 8394 5849
http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
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Re: New SATA drive installation question (SOLVED)

[Lisi]

On Wednesday 28 September 2011 12:10:05 Camaleón wrote:
> Sorry, Lisi but on a mailing list there are some rules you should try to
> follow, and I don't want to sound rude but you insisted too much in
> remarking something I was not talking about, dunno why.

Camaleón - this is absurd.  You do sound extremely rude.  You don't follow the 
rules yourself.  What about the one about not flaming?  I diverted nothing.  
No-one but you responded.  I have not started, nor wished to start, the 
thread you imagine I was trying to start.

And I didn't insist at all.  I suggest that _you_ reread the thread.  I made a 
remark to which you took exception.  I did not react at all to your first 
blast, because I knew that you were likely to react as you in fact did.
One person said that he didn't think I had meant what you were attributing to 
me.  So you blasted him.  Had you not done so, I would still have let it 
pass. I replied that he was right and that I had not meant what you said I 
meant.  That was all.

ALL the insisting is being done by you.  It is not up to you to single 
handedly police the net.  I fully expect in the near future that someone will 
object to all this flaming.  But I am not prepared to just accept that you 
are entitled to treat me like this.  

You are being rude and dictatorial.  And I did not insist on anything until 
after you had started this ridiculous attack/war.  And I do insist that the 
only thing I did contrary to net etiquette is not reread the thread.  I made 
no attempt to divert it.  

I just reacted to a remark by you in a manner which you feel (probably 
correctly) ignored the full thread.  Of course I spoke from my own 
experience.  Would you have been happier if I had simply flatly contradicted 
what you said, without making it clear what I was talking about?  I thought 
that you were exaggerating.  Most of us do sometimes.

I am not prepared to just sit here meekly while you order me around like this.  
You are one of the most knowledgeable and most helpful of all the people on 
this list.  That does not give you the right to behave in such a bombastic, 
rude and high-handed way.

Lisi


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Re: New SATA drive installation question (SOLVED)

[Camaleón]

On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 18:34:23 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:

> Am Mittwoch, 28. September 2011 schrieb Camaleón:
>> On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 18:50:05 +0100, Lisi wrote:
>> > On Tuesday 27 September 2011 12:53:34 Camaleón wrote:
>> >> Then, you have to start reading the "whole thing" (aka, the whole
>> >> thread) before making such statements on what you find "qualified"
>> >> or not because something can look unqualified only to unqualified
>> >> eyes, so please, I understand that sometimes we (we → mailing list
>> >> users) want to make a side comment on something that affects us
>> >> directy and use any excuse to move the thread to our field of
>> >> interest but at least be fair enough to not mix things.
>> > 
>> > I wasn't trying to move anything.
>> 
>> It didn't seemed so. You deliberately added information about your own
>> problem (that has nothing to do with the one experienced by the OP) and
>> by doing so redirected the main issue (OP's) to another one (yours).
> 
> What speaks against carrying this out in private mail? Or even just drop
> it? From what I gathered there have been a misunderstanding, granted,
> but I fail to find the drama in there.

No problem. For me this thread is now closed.

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Re: New SATA drive installation question (SOLVED)

[Martin Steigerwald]

Am Mittwoch, 28. September 2011 schrieb Camaleón:
> On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 18:50:05 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> > On Tuesday 27 September 2011 12:53:34 Camaleón wrote:
> >> Then, you have to start reading the "whole thing" (aka, the whole
> >> thread) before making such statements on what you find "qualified"
> >> or not because something can look unqualified only to unqualified
> >> eyes, so please, I understand that sometimes we (we → mailing list
> >> users) want to make a side comment on something that affects us
> >> directy and use any excuse to move the thread to our field of
> >> interest but at least be fair enough to not mix things.
> > 
> > I wasn't trying to move anything.
> 
> It didn't seemed so. You deliberately added information about your own
> problem (that has nothing to do with the one experienced by the OP) and
> by doing so redirected the main issue (OP's) to another one (yours).

What speaks against carrying this out in private mail? Or even just drop 
it? From what I gathered there have been a misunderstanding, granted, but 
I fail to find the drama in there.

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Re: New SATA drive installation question (SOLVED)

[Camaleón]

On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 18:50:05 +0100, Lisi wrote:

> On Tuesday 27 September 2011 12:53:34 Camaleón wrote:
>> Then, you have to start reading the "whole thing" (aka, the whole
>> thread) before making such statements on what you find "qualified" or
>> not because something can look unqualified only to unqualified eyes, so
>> please, I understand that sometimes we (we → mailing list users) want
>> to make a side comment on something that affects us directy and use any
>> excuse to move the thread to our field of interest but at least be fair
>> enough to not mix things.
> 
> I wasn't trying to move anything.  

It didn't seemed so. You deliberately added information about your own 
problem (that has nothing to do with the one experienced by the OP) and 
by doing so redirected the main issue (OP's) to another one (yours).

> You persist in deliberately twisting both what I said then and what I
> am saying now.  

It's not me who cuts your quotes and reduce them to "one line" and then 
replies to a one-line stanza and disturbs the context in what it was made.

> I am quoting what I am actually replying to.  

And that's fine. I also do but I also take care of the removed content 
and reply accordingly! So if I was talking about a specific device 
(internal hard disks), why on the earth should I have considered another 
kind of HDs? Do you want me to start making a list of every device 
current capacities and formatting features? That will be a very large 
list.

> I am not mixing anything or trying to move anything.  I am merely
> "guilty" of not pleasing you.  That is not a crime.  And I do not have
> to do what you want.  

That does not sound very fair... is not just me the only person you 
should reply correctly but to all of the users :-/

> If you want to try to move and misinterpret what I say, go ahead, but
> stop lecturing me as though I were a naughty schoolgirl.

Sorry, Lisi but on a mailing list there are some rules you should try to 
follow, and I don't want to sound rude but you insisted too much in 
remarking something I was not talking about, dunno why.

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Re: New SATA drive installation question (SOLVED)

[Lisi]

On Tuesday 27 September 2011 12:53:34 Camaleón wrote:
> Then, you have to start reading the "whole thing" (aka, the whole thread)
> before making such statements on what you find "qualified" or not because
> something can look unqualified only to unqualified eyes, so please, I
> understand that sometimes we (we → mailing list users) want to make a
> side comment on something that affects us directy and use any excuse to
> move the thread to our field of interest but at least be fair enough to
> not mix things.

I wasn't trying to move anything.  You persist in deliberately twisting both 
what I said then and what I am saying now.  I am quoting what I am actually 
replying to.  I am not mixing anything or trying to move anything.  I am 
merely "guilty" of not pleasing you.  That is not a crime.  And I do not have 
to do what you want.  If you want to try to move and misinterpret what I say, 
go ahead, but stop lecturing me as though I were a naughty schoolgirl.

Lisi 


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Re: New SATA drive installation question (SOLVED)

[Camaleón]

On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 23:06:06 +0100, Lisi wrote:

Gee... still with this? :-)

> On Monday 26 September 2011 19:07:17 Camaleón wrote:
>> Yes, you should have read the full thread
> 
> I'm not the only one who has been known to transgress in that manner. 
> And I'm sure that I won't be the last.  Don't you think that this all
> getting a bit OTT for what was, after all, not that serious a
> misdemeanour?

Lisi, just some thoughts...

You have to stop cutting the quotes you reply in the way you do because 
by doing so you are removing information that is needed to understand 
what the user you are replying is saying.

Then, you have to start reading the "whole thing" (aka, the whole thread) 
before making such statements on what you find "qualified" or not because 
something can look unqualified only to unqualified eyes, so please, I 
understand that sometimes we (we → mailing list users) want to make a 
side comment on something that affects us directy and use any excuse to 
move the thread to our field of interest but at least be fair enough to 
not mix things.

Hope all is more clear now.

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Re: New SATA drive installation question (SOLVED)

[Lisi]

On Monday 26 September 2011 19:07:17 Camaleón wrote:
> Yes, you should have read the full thread

I'm not the only one who has been known to transgress in that manner.  And I'm 
sure that I won't be the last.  Don't you think that this all getting a bit 
OTT for what was, after all, not that serious a misdemeanour?

Lisi


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Re: New SATA drive installation question (SOLVED)

[Camaleón]

On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 18:47:45 +0100, Lisi wrote:

> On Sunday 25 September 2011 18:29:10 Camaleón wrote:
>> It seems to me that you replied to more than that statement as we were
>> not talking about external hard disks at all.
> 
> I _was_ replying solely to the statement.  

And you expanded with additional information that was not related at all 
with the current OP thread and of course, with the above statement that 
was not aimed to external nor other types of hard disks.

> I did not read thro' the thread and make sure of the context, and you
> can and do say that I should have. None-the-less, I was replying to the
> actual statement.

Yes, you should have read the full thread, because by not doing so you 
missed important and relevant information, and what is worse, you 
"insisted" in consider an unqualified statement something which of 
course, it was not should you have read it appropriately.

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Re: New SATA drive installation question (SOLVED)

[Lisi]

On Sunday 25 September 2011 18:29:10 Camaleón wrote:
> It seems to me that you replied to more than that statement as we were
> not talking about external hard disks at all.

I _was_ replying solely to the statement.  I did not read thro' the thread and 
make sure of the context, and you can and do say that I should have.  
None-the-less, I was replying to the actual statement.

Lisi


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Re: New SATA drive installation question

[francis picabia]

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:17 AM, francis picabia  wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Marc Shapiro  wrote:
>> I'm feeling really dumb right now.  Okay, I'm not dumb, I'm just lacking the
>> information that I need at this time.
>>
>> I just installed a new SATA 1TB Seagate Barracuda drive in my Lenny box with
>> FVWM as my window manager.  This is the first time that I have installed a
>> SATA drive.  How do I determine what drive name to use to repartition and
>> reformat the drive.  With an IDE drive I can tell what it is from its
>> position on the cable.  That doesn't work with SATA.
>>
>> I have looked at the output of blkid, as well as looking through /dev/disk/
>> and I don't see anything that looks like the new drive to me.  I also didn't
>> have anything jump out at me from dmesg.
>>
>> Can anyone tell me where I should be looking, and what I should be looking
>> for?
>>
>> Do I need to make changes in the BIOS to recognize SATA drives?
>>
>> All help appreciated.
>>
>
> Usually the new drive is different than your older drive.  If so, you
> can identify
> it through fdisk -l to list all your drives.  Check the size and it
> will usually indicate
> what it is.   Otherwise if the size of two drives are the same, you can
> install or use smartctl to see the drive model info.  smartctl -i /dev/sda
> will show a bunch of data on the drive including the model number and
> serial number.  Match to what is printed on the hard drive sticker
> and you will know what is what.
>
> If nothing new pops up in fdisk -l, you can tell from that your drive is
> not enabled.  Check your BIOS settings to see if the SATA channels
> are enabled, etc.
>

And... two minutes later I realize this was answered in a new thread.
Oh well, the info might help someone in the future.


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Re: New SATA drive installation question

[francis picabia]

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Marc Shapiro  wrote:
> I'm feeling really dumb right now.  Okay, I'm not dumb, I'm just lacking the
> information that I need at this time.
>
> I just installed a new SATA 1TB Seagate Barracuda drive in my Lenny box with
> FVWM as my window manager.  This is the first time that I have installed a
> SATA drive.  How do I determine what drive name to use to repartition and
> reformat the drive.  With an IDE drive I can tell what it is from its
> position on the cable.  That doesn't work with SATA.
>
> I have looked at the output of blkid, as well as looking through /dev/disk/
> and I don't see anything that looks like the new drive to me.  I also didn't
> have anything jump out at me from dmesg.
>
> Can anyone tell me where I should be looking, and what I should be looking
> for?
>
> Do I need to make changes in the BIOS to recognize SATA drives?
>
> All help appreciated.
>

Usually the new drive is different than your older drive.  If so, you
can identify
it through fdisk -l to list all your drives.  Check the size and it
will usually indicate
what it is.   Otherwise if the size of two drives are the same, you can
install or use smartctl to see the drive model info.  smartctl -i /dev/sda
will show a bunch of data on the drive including the model number and
serial number.  Match to what is printed on the hard drive sticker
and you will know what is what.

If nothing new pops up in fdisk -l, you can tell from that your drive is
not enabled.  Check your BIOS settings to see if the SATA channels
are enabled, etc.


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Re: New SATA drive installation question (SOLVED)

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 18:48:16 -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote:

> On 09/25/11 06:36, Camaleón wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 22:34:12 -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote:
>>
>> No new modern hard disk will come partitioned, they come low-level
>> formatted from factory :-)
> 
> That shows how long it's been since I installed a new drive.  The last
> time that I did so, it was the current drive in this box -- a 40GB WD
> drive.  It came with a single FAT partition, IIRC.  

I've never had an internal hard disk which came preformatted from factory 
but in the past, every manufacturer had its own "mania" and tried to make 
installations as smooth as possible for the user. I can't tell for WD, 
though, I used to buy IBM (for SCSI) and Seagate (IDE/SATA/SCSI).

> Do they even make 40GB drives anymore?

You can still find small sized hard disks, mostly IDE, but I dunno if 
companies are actively manufactiring them. I guess yes, because aside the 
computers market, there are industries where IDE units are still used 
(CCTV, embedded devices for industry, etc...).

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Re: New SATA drive installation question (SOLVED)

[Marc Shapiro]

On 09/25/11 06:36, Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 22:34:12 -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote:

No new modern hard disk will come partitioned, they come low-level
formatted from factory :-)


That shows how long it's been since I installed a new drive.  The last 
time that I did so, it was the current drive in this box -- a 40GB WD 
drive.  It came with a single FAT partition, IIRC.  Do they even make 
40GB drives anymore?


I have another question about this drive now, but I'll start a new 
thread for that.


Marc


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Re: New SATA drive installation question (SOLVED)

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 17:30:24 +0100, Lisi wrote:

> On Sunday 25 September 2011 17:25:16 Camaleón wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 16:11:38 +, Curt wrote:
>> > On 2011-09-25, Camaleón  wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 16:24:30 +0100, Lisi wrote:
>> >>> On Sunday 25 September 2011 14:36:57 Camaleón wrote:
>>  No new modern hard disk will come partitioned, they come low-level
>>  formatted from factory :-)
>> >>>
>> >>> Unless it's external.
>> >>
>> >> Barracuda disks are not usually external. Seagate uses fancy names
>> >> for
>> >
>> > But you said "No new modern hard disk will come partitioned" and Lisi
>> > was replying directly to that (unqualified) statement.
>>
>> The "unqualified" statement was placed in a context (Barracuda and BIOS
>> tweaking) so of course we were talking on internal disks (not PCI-e
>> SSD, not USB flash based keys, not SD cards, etc...).
> 
> None the less, Curt is correct.  I was reacting solely to the
> unqualified statement.  You can - and apparently do ;-) - reply that I
> ought not to have done so.  But I did.

It seems to me that you replied to more than that statement as we were 
not talking about external hard disks at all. You can, however, open a 
new thread for the problem you were facing with your own disk :-)

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Re: New SATA drive installation question (SOLVED)

[Lisi]

On Sunday 25 September 2011 17:25:16 Camaleón wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 16:11:38 +, Curt wrote:
> > On 2011-09-25, Camaleón  wrote:
> >> On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 16:24:30 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> >>> On Sunday 25 September 2011 14:36:57 Camaleón wrote:
>  No new modern hard disk will come partitioned, they come low-level
>  formatted from factory :-)
> >>>
> >>> Unless it's external.
> >>
> >> Barracuda disks are not usually external. Seagate uses fancy names for
> >
> > But you said "No new modern hard disk will come partitioned" and Lisi
> > was replying directly to that (unqualified) statement.
>
> The "unqualified" statement was placed in a context (Barracuda and BIOS
> tweaking) so of course we were talking on internal disks (not PCI-e SSD,
> not USB flash based keys, not SD cards, etc...).

None the less, Curt is correct.  I was reacting solely to the unqualified 
statement.  You can - and apparently do ;-) - reply that I ought not to have 
done so.  But I did.

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Re: New SATA drive installation question (SOLVED)

[Lisi]

On Sunday 25 September 2011 16:49:35 Camaleón wrote:
> I never buy those pre-boxed disks... I prefer to get an external USB/
> Firewire case and put an internal disk on it, they're far better and
> easily to upgrade than the others ;-)

After this battle, I think that I shall remember that!  Thanks, Camaleón.  
That is very useful advice/information!!

Lisi


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Re: New SATA drive installation question (SOLVED)

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 16:11:38 +, Curt wrote:

> On 2011-09-25, Camaleón  wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 16:24:30 +0100, Lisi wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday 25 September 2011 14:36:57 Camaleón wrote:
 No new modern hard disk will come partitioned, they come low-level
 formatted from factory :-)
>>> 
>>> Unless it's external.
>>
>> Barracuda disks are not usually external. Seagate uses fancy names for
> 
> But you said "No new modern hard disk will come partitioned" and Lisi
> was replying directly to that (unqualified) statement.

The "unqualified" statement was placed in a context (Barracuda and BIOS 
tweaking) so of course we were talking on internal disks (not PCI-e SSD, 
not USB flash based keys, not SD cards, etc...).

I try to keep the target, sir.

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Re: New SATA drive installation question (SOLVED)

[Curt]

On 2011-09-25, Camaleón  wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 16:24:30 +0100, Lisi wrote:
>
>> On Sunday 25 September 2011 14:36:57 Camaleón wrote:
>>> No new modern hard disk will come partitioned, they come low-level
>>> formatted from factory :-)
>> 
>> Unless it's external.  
>
> Barracuda disks are not usually external. Seagate uses fancy names for 

But you said "No new modern hard disk will come partitioned" and Lisi
was replying directly to that (unqualified) statement.



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Re: New SATA drive installation question (SOLVED)

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 16:24:30 +0100, Lisi wrote:

> On Sunday 25 September 2011 14:36:57 Camaleón wrote:
>> No new modern hard disk will come partitioned, they come low-level
>> formatted from factory :-)
> 
> Unless it's external.  

Barracuda disks are not usually external. Seagate uses fancy names for 
external disks such as GoFlex, BlackArmour, RedColibri, BuyThis and so 
on... :-D

> Then it will be clogged up with Windows stuff that it will relinquish
> only very, very reluctantly.  I still haven't got my latest buy
> functioning properly: it almost is, but insists that it is read only. 
> %^*£".  In despair I set the permissions at 777 and is _still_ insists
> that it is read only. :-(  (Nothing on it is even vaguely confidential
> or personal.)  Though it will write distros but not md5sums.

I never buy those pre-boxed disks... I prefer to get an external USB/
Firewire case and put an internal disk on it, they're far better and 
easily to upgrade than the others ;-)

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Re: New SATA drive installation question (SOLVED)

[Lisi]

On Sunday 25 September 2011 14:36:57 Camaleón wrote:
> No new modern hard disk will come partitioned, they come low-level
> formatted from factory :-)

Unless it's external.  Then it will be clogged up with Windows stuff that it 
will relinquish only very, very reluctantly.  I still haven't got my latest 
buy functioning properly: it almost is, but insists that it is read 
only. %^*£".  In despair I set the permissions at 777 and is _still_ insists 
that it is read only. :-(  (Nothing on it is even vaguely confidential or 
personal.)  Though it will write distros but not md5sums.

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Re: New SATA drive installation question (SOLVED)

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 22:34:12 -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote:

> On 09/24/11 20:48, Marc Shapiro wrote:

(...)

>> Do I need to make changes in the BIOS to recognize SATA drives?
> 
> Obviously, I needed to answer my own question.  Yes!  I did need to
> activate SATA in the BIOS.  

(...)

It's not very common for a motherboard with sata ports to have them 
disabled :-?

> As soon as I did so 'ls /dev/disk/by-id' clearly showed the drive as
> being /dev/sda.  I then did 'fdisk /dev/sda' which showed that it does
> not come pre-partitioned.  This is, of course, not a problem, since I
> would have wiped out the FAT, or NTFS partition and replaced it with
> ext-3 partitions, anyway.

No new modern hard disk will come partitioned, they come low-level 
formatted from factory :-)

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Re: New SATA drive installation question (SOLVED)

[Marc Shapiro]

On 09/24/11 20:48, Marc Shapiro wrote:

I'm feeling really dumb right now. Okay, I'm not dumb, I'm just lacking
the information that I need at this time.

I just installed a new SATA 1TB Seagate Barracuda drive in my Lenny box
with FVWM as my window manager. This is the first time that I have
installed a SATA drive. How do I determine what drive name to use to
repartition and reformat the drive. With an IDE drive I can tell what it
is from its position on the cable. That doesn't work with SATA.

I have looked at the output of blkid, as well as looking through
/dev/disk/ and I don't see anything that looks like the new drive to me.
I also didn't have anything jump out at me from dmesg.

Can anyone tell me where I should be looking, and what I should be
looking for?

Do I need to make changes in the BIOS to recognize SATA drives?


Obviously, I needed to answer my own question.  Yes!  I did need to 
activate SATA in the BIOS.  As soon as I did so 'ls /dev/disk/by-id' 
clearly showed the drive as being /dev/sda.  I then did 'fdisk /dev/sda' 
which showed that it does not come pre-partitioned.  This is, of course, 
not a problem, since I would have wiped out the FAT, or NTFS partition 
and replaced it with ext-3 partitions, anyway.


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New SATA drive installation question

[Marc Shapiro]

I'm feeling really dumb right now.  Okay, I'm not dumb, I'm just lacking 
the information that I need at this time.


I just installed a new SATA 1TB Seagate Barracuda drive in my Lenny box 
with FVWM as my window manager.  This is the first time that I have 
installed a SATA drive.  How do I determine what drive name to use to 
repartition and reformat the drive.  With an IDE drive I can tell what 
it is from its position on the cable.  That doesn't work with SATA.


I have looked at the output of blkid, as well as looking through 
/dev/disk/ and I don't see anything that looks like the new drive to me. 
 I also didn't have anything jump out at me from dmesg.


Can anyone tell me where I should be looking, and what I should be 
looking for?


Do I need to make changes in the BIOS to recognize SATA drives?

All help appreciated.

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Re: New debian-installation - question

[Alex Mestiashvili]

On 03/26/2011 05:04 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:

Hi list,

just some simple questions: I am going to create a small installations cd from
an already installed system (with my own settings). As I want it small and
secure, I do not want any logfiles on this cd. I am using bootcdwrite. So my
questions:

1.Can I use an empty /var/log/ or is it necessary, that some logfiles already
exist?

2. Same question to /var/run, /var/cache and /var/spool/: Can they be empty at
first boot?

3. Last question (maybe stupid): Can /var be empty at all or are there any
directories, which MUST exist at very first boot?

I am looking forward to your answers.

Best regards

Hans




   


I would suggest you to use a ready livecd such as GRML for example .
It is also Debian based and you can tweak it as you want - it is very 
flexible .

It uses squashfs ( at least 3 years ago)  which gives you good compression .

Best reagrds ,
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New debian-installation - question

[Hans-J. Ullrich]

Hi list,

just some simple questions: I am going to create a small installations cd from 
an already installed system (with my own settings). As I want it small and 
secure, I do not want any logfiles on this cd. I am using bootcdwrite. So my 
questions:

1.Can I use an empty /var/log/ or is it necessary, that some logfiles already 
exist?

2. Same question to /var/run, /var/cache and /var/spool/: Can they be empty at 
first boot?

3. Last question (maybe stupid): Can /var be empty at all or are there any 
directories, which MUST exist at very first boot?

I am looking forward to your answers.

Best regards

Hans

 


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Re: basic installation question x 2

[Bob Proulx]

Jim Pazarena wrote:
> (a) is it possible to avoid/cancel the initial request for a user name
>(other than root)?

Sure.  Just don't create one.  The debian-installer asks if you would
like to create a user but you can skip that step.  It is optional.

And then as the others said it is possible to use preseeding and so
forth to automate things.  Also look at FAI (fully automated install)
for one industrial strength solution.

>My goal is to have an install routine which _after_ the base install
>creates all the users I need, possibly in non-default locations.

I do that all of the time.  No problem.

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[Rob Owens]

On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 01:32:26PM -0700, Jim Pazarena wrote:
> I'm new to Debian, and would like to give it serious consideration.
> I'm from a FreeBSD camp, so the differences are enough to
> challenge me.
>
> Two questions.
>
> (a) is it possible to avoid/cancel the initial request for a user name
>(other than root)?
>My goal is to have an install routine which _after_ the base install
>creates all the users I need, possibly in non-default locations.
>
Ubuntu can do this.  They call it an "OEM install".  It's part of the
alternate install CD.  Maybe you could find out how they do it.  Should
be similar to do it on Debian.

> (b) is there any benefit to loading all the DVD's? Compared to DVD1
> and then grabbing software via the 'net?
> The part I don't like about all DVDs is that once you do that, the
> apt-get tells you to "insert disk X", which is a nuisance.
>
Most people, I think, use the netinst cd.  That's what I'd recommend.

-Rob


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Re: basic installation question x 2

[Jochen Schulz]

Jim Pazarena:
> 
> (a) is it possible to avoid/cancel the initial request for a user name
>(other than root)?
>My goal is to have an install routine which _after_ the base install
>creates all the users I need, possibly in non-default locations.

Debian-installer has the concept "pre-seeding". I am sure that lets you
create user during install.

> (b) is there any benefit to loading all the DVD's? Compared to DVD1
> and then grabbing software via the 'net?

No. Actually, you don't even need a full DVD. You can get away with a
netinst image (<200MB) or even a business card image (<50MB).

> The part I don't like about all DVDs is that once you do that, the
> apt-get tells you to "insert disk X", which is a nuisance.

At least after installation, you can just remove the DVD lines from
/etc/apt/sources.list and you will never be asked to insert any disks
anymore.

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basic installation question x 2

[Jim Pazarena]

I'm new to Debian, and would like to give it serious consideration.
I'm from a FreeBSD camp, so the differences are enough to
challenge me.

Two questions.

(a) is it possible to avoid/cancel the initial request for a user name
   (other than root)?
   My goal is to have an install routine which _after_ the base install
   creates all the users I need, possibly in non-default locations.

(b) is there any benefit to loading all the DVD's? Compared to DVD1
and then grabbing software via the 'net?
The part I don't like about all DVDs is that once you do that, the
apt-get tells you to "insert disk X", which is a nuisance.

Thanks.


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Re: Udev Installation Question

[David Baron]

On Sunday 03 February 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > What happens to the original contents of /dev?
> >
> > 1. Still there--the tmpfs simply mounts over them (kind of wasteful since
> > a statis /dev had zillions of unused nodes).
> >
> > 2. Deleted. Want to go back ... well there is a make-devfs script
> > somewhere to create all the zillions of nodes that Knoppix uses.
> >
> > 3. Tarred, feathered and stashed somewhere I had read that this does
> > occur. Where?
>
>   3. Specifically, remounted on /dev/.static/dev.

Yes, this is what I had seen previously.
Can this be moved to some backkup and not take up disk space on line any 
longer?

Re: Udev Installation Question

[Andrew Reid]

On Saturday 02 February 2008 14:00, David Baron wrote:
> What happens to the original contents of /dev?
>
> 1. Still there--the tmpfs simply mounts over them (kind of wasteful since a
> statis /dev had zillions of unused nodes).
>
> 2. Deleted. Want to go back ... well there is a make-devfs script somewhere
> to create all the zillions of nodes that Knoppix uses.
>
> 3. Tarred, feathered and stashed somewhere I had read that this does occur.
> Where?

  3. Specifically, remounted on /dev/.static/dev. 

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[David Baron]

What happens to the original contents of /dev?

1. Still there--the tmpfs simply mounts over them (kind of wasteful since a 
statis /dev had zillions of unused nodes).

2. Deleted. Want to go back ... well there is a make-devfs script somewhere to 
create all the zillions of nodes that Knoppix uses.

3. Tarred, feathered and stashed somewhere I had read that this does occur. 
Where?


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Re: firewall installation question

[Paul E Condon]

On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 01:53:57AM +, Steve Kemp wrote:
> On Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 19:49:40 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> 
> > > You must chmod +x this script:
> > > # chmod +x script_name
> > > 
> > 
> > Thanks, but I was forced to +x the script in order to run it manually.
> > Something else is the problem. 
> 
>   Files in that directory are executed by 'run-parts'.  That
>  has some restrictions upon the filenames you may use.  See
>  'man run-parts' for details.

Yes! I knew that once! My filename contained a dot-extension.
Get rid of the dot and now it works!
Oh joy!  Oh rapture!

And Thankyou, Thankyou, Thankyou.

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Re: firewall installation question

[Steve Kemp]

On Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 19:49:40 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:

> > You must chmod +x this script:
> > # chmod +x script_name
> > 
> 
> Thanks, but I was forced to +x the script in order to run it manually.
> Something else is the problem. 

  Files in that directory are executed by 'run-parts'.  That
 has some restrictions upon the filenames you may use.  See
 'man run-parts' for details.

  My suggestion:

   1. Name the script 'firewall'.
   2. Make sure it is executable.
   3. Make sure your firewall is flushed/off.
   4. Run /etc/init.d/networking restart, or reboot.
   5. Now list rules.

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Re: firewall installation question

[Paul E Condon]

On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 10:32:29PM +0100, Pál Csányi wrote:
> 2007/11/3, Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > I use Etch. I want to install a firewall script. I found one in
> > www.debian-administration.org that establishes a transparent proxy for
> > web browsing. It is a script that seems to do what I want when I run
> > it manually. debadmin article says to put it in /etc/network/if-up.d/
> > and it will be run automatically as part of boot, but that is not true
> > on my machine. Is my machine malfunction or is there a different place
> > that such boot scripts should be placed?
> 
> You must chmod +x this script:
> # chmod +x script_name
> 

Thanks, but I was forced to +x the script in order to run it manually.
Something else is the problem. 

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Re: firewall installation question

[Pál Csányi]

2007/11/3, Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I use Etch. I want to install a firewall script. I found one in
> www.debian-administration.org that establishes a transparent proxy for
> web browsing. It is a script that seems to do what I want when I run
> it manually. debadmin article says to put it in /etc/network/if-up.d/
> and it will be run automatically as part of boot, but that is not true
> on my machine. Is my machine malfunction or is there a different place
> that such boot scripts should be placed?

You must chmod +x this script:
# chmod +x script_name

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Vá: firewall installation question

[Pál Csányi]

2007/11/3, Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I use Etch. I want to install a firewall script. I found one in
> www.debian-administration.org that establishes a transparent proxy for
> web browsing. It is a script that seems to do what I want when I run
> it manually. debadmin article says to put it in /etc/network/if-up.d/
> and it will be run automatically as part of boot, but that is not true
> on my machine. Is my machine malfunction or is there a different place
> that such boot scripts should be placed?

You must chmod +x this script:
# chmod +x script_name

in that directory: /etc/network/if-up.d/



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firewall installation question

[Paul E Condon]

I use Etch. I want to install a firewall script. I found one in
www.debian-administration.org that establishes a transparent proxy for
web browsing. It is a script that seems to do what I want when I run
it manually. debadmin article says to put it in /etc/network/if-up.d/
and it will be run automatically as part of boot, but that is not true
on my machine. Is my machine malfunction or is there a different place
that such boot scripts should be placed?

TIA

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Re: Installation question

[jekillen]

On Oct 10, 2007, at 6:57 AM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:


On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 09:41:06PM -0700, jekillen wrote:

Is apt-cdrom add a command line program? I did not see it in
administration
menu, only Synaptic which when launched presented dialogs about
Debian site files being no existent. I am not sitting at the machine 
at

this moment so I cannot reproduce the exact lines and error messages.
i found aptitude also but am at a loss as to how to proceed.
This is stuff either I have missed or it is not part of what I have to
hand.
I presume there would be man pages for these programs(?)

I am strung between two worlds, gui ala Mac and command line Unix.



Therein lies part of the problem.  Linux has its roots in Unix.  To be
more "user friendly" it has packages that overlay the unix CLI with
front-end GUIs.  Yet, the basic documentation (e.g. debian-reference,
harden-doc, etc) is focused on the traditional CLI.

Yes, I started with classic Mac back in about '96. Then I got into Linux
with Mandrake around 2002. I started learning something about Unix
in general and some command line use. I took an extension course at
a local junior college on Linux installation and administration. Since 
then

I have used Mandrake, Yellow Dog (run on older Macs) and FreeBSD.
I have four AMD 64 machines with FreeBSD installations running as
servers (no GUI). I've built and installed software from source. Set up
DNS servers and such (I have static ip addresses and run my web sites
from home). I would not call myself a Unix Guru by any measure, but I
have enough working knowledge to get what I need done. Sometimes
one style of computing, GUI for instance, produces certain types of 
expectations.

When the other type is dealt with, there is a sort of gap that develops.
I learned to use a mouse like a sabre and have used GUI text editors.
when I have to edit a file with vi it is really awkward just because I 
am

not used to that approach. But I am not about to go hunt down
httpd.conf in a file system window and open it in a program like BBEdit
(that I do all my programming code in). I use the command line and open
it in vi and do what I need, as root, and be done with it.


Everything should have a man page (e.g. man synaptic) and each package
should have documentation either in e.g. /usr/share/doc/synaptic or in 
a

separate e.g. synaptic-doc package.  I don't know about synaptic itself
since I use aptitude.

Aptitude itself is a front-end enhancement of apt, and they all end up
using dpkg to actually install each package.
That is the gap that develops for me. It is an intellectual contortion 
for me

to conceive that command line scripts are installing GUI programs. But
eventually I want to do some GUI type programming. I would have to
come to grips with the idea that scripts and console programs are
installing GUI programs and just deal with the details.



I suggest that you read the debian-reference manual (available as a
package) and fire up a web browser and peruse the docs under
/usr/share/doc.

Debian is very powerful _and_ very flexible.  This means that you have
lots of choices but it also means that you have a lot of learning to do
to make informed choices.  Being debian, as long as you use the normal
tools you shouldn't mess up your system; your choices are reversable.

The best advice I can give you is to break projects down into small
attainable goals and do one at a time.  Don't try to predict what you
need to install to achive something.  Find the package that you want 
and

apt will bring in whatever is needed to do it.  Do read up in the
reference the difference between depends, recommended, and suggest.  I
only have aptitude install depends; it presents me with a list of
recommended and suggested packages before I go ahead with an install.


I do web design and programming in Javascript and php. Have lots of 
experience
with having to anticipate what is going to be needed for any particular 
project
before hand. If I need or plan to use databases in a project, usually 
MySQL,

I need to know how to formulate queries in MySQL dialect of SQL before I
do the project, otherwise its a fruitless waste of trial and error with 
much
frustration. Ironically, the learning process involves that, but at 
least I have
a handle on what it is that I am supposed to learn. Javascript, being 
my first

computer language, useful to a web designer, nearly drove me around the
bend until I learned some things about it that no text or mailing list 
response
could or would tell me about. Along with learning the language, I 
developed

my own approach to the development process and techniques that no text
mentions explicitly, if at all. I am getting weary of that though. I 
completely agree
with what you are telling me, but I've been there and done that, for 
the most

part.



You only need a full DTE (Gnome, KDE, Xfce) if you want all the bells
and whistles of the DTE.  If you just want to install a [Gnome | KDE |
Xfce] app, jus

Re: Installation question

[Daniel Burrows]

On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 02:35:50PM -0700, jekillen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was 
heard to say:
> Greetings:
> I am impatient and am having a problem with my installation of
> etch. I purchased a commercially available Debian cd package
> and installed the system without a problem. But I am tying to
> use the Synaptic package manager and am having a problem
> with it connecting to the Debian site via a proxy.  I have set the
> preferences in the package manager to use a proxy. The proxy
> is a Mac OSX machine running Apache. I am unclear as to how
> the package manager would use that. I have the web browsers,
> Epiphany and IceWeasel, using the proxy set up and they do
> just fine with it. (All though, if I follow a link in the proxy home
> page with Epiphany, it loops back to the document root index
> and I have to use reload to get it out to the target site in the
> link.)

  I don't know how Synaptic works exactly, but you should be able to
change the proxy settings globally by editing /etc/apt/apt.conf and
adding the following line:

Acquire::http::Proxy "http://your.proxy.here:port/";;

  See "man apt.conf" for more information on the apt.conf configuration
file.

  Daniel


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Re: Installation question

[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 09:41:06PM -0700, jekillen wrote:
> Is apt-cdrom add a command line program? I did not see it in 
> administration
> menu, only Synaptic which when launched presented dialogs about
> Debian site files being no existent. I am not sitting at the machine at
> this moment so I cannot reproduce the exact lines and error messages.
> i found aptitude also but am at a loss as to how to proceed.
> This is stuff either I have missed or it is not part of what I have to 
> hand.
> I presume there would be man pages for these programs(?)
> 
> I am strung between two worlds, gui ala Mac and command line Unix.
> 

Therein lies part of the problem.  Linux has its roots in Unix.  To be
more "user friendly" it has packages that overlay the unix CLI with
front-end GUIs.  Yet, the basic documentation (e.g. debian-reference,
harden-doc, etc) is focused on the traditional CLI.

Everything should have a man page (e.g. man synaptic) and each package
should have documentation either in e.g. /usr/share/doc/synaptic or in a
separate e.g. synaptic-doc package.  I don't know about synaptic itself
since I use aptitude.

Aptitude itself is a front-end enhancement of apt, and they all end up
using dpkg to actually install each package.

I suggest that you read the debian-reference manual (available as a
package) and fire up a web browser and peruse the docs under
/usr/share/doc.

Debian is very powerful _and_ very flexible.  This means that you have
lots of choices but it also means that you have a lot of learning to do
to make informed choices.  Being debian, as long as you use the normal
tools you shouldn't mess up your system; your choices are reversable.  

The best advice I can give you is to break projects down into small
attainable goals and do one at a time.  Don't try to predict what you
need to install to achive something.  Find the package that you want and
apt will bring in whatever is needed to do it.  Do read up in the
reference the difference between depends, recommended, and suggest.  I
only have aptitude install depends; it presents me with a list of
recommended and suggested packages before I go ahead with an install.  

You only need a full DTE (Gnome, KDE, Xfce) if you want all the bells
and whistles of the DTE.  If you just want to install a [Gnome | KDE |
Xfce] app, just install the app and it will pull in what you want.  For
example, on my smaller system, I run icewm but I really like the Xfce
terminal.  My big box runs Xfce but I run several KDE apps.  I've never
had much luck with gnome apps (I think they focus on new features and
less on tracking down bugs that cause them to crash).  

Enjoy.

Doug.


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Re: Installation question

[Chris Lale]

jekillen wrote:
[...]
>  I want to install KDE and noticed that among the 24 cds there
> is one labeled KDE install 1.
> Does that mean that that cd would install the system with KDE
> and not Gnome?

I think that this is a bootable installation disc. If you install from it, your
system will have KDE _instead_ of Gnome. As you want both desktops, there is no
point in reinstalling using this disc.

> (I actually want both because some apps run under one or the
> other and not both).
[...]

You can run KDE apps under Gnome (and vice versa). Just install them. :) If they
need any KDE-specific files, they will get installed automatically.

If you want to install the KDE desktop, just install the "kde" package using
Synaptic. You can choose whether to use KDE or Gnome at the graphical login
screen. You can also set a default there so that you don't have to choose each 
time.

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Re: Installation question

[Chris Lale]

jekillen wrote:
> 
[...]
> Is apt-cdrom add a command line program? I did not see it in administration
> menu, only Synaptic which when launched presented dialogs about
> Debian site files being no existent. [...]

You can add CDROMs from within Synaptic - no need for the command line:

Edit -> Add CD-ROM

Or, you can check the repositories currently listed in /etc/apt/sources.list
from within Synaptic:

Settings -> Repositories

and add CDs from there using the "Add Cdrom" button.

You probably want to get Debian packages via the internet instead, in which case
you should have a repository similar to

deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ etch main non-free contrib

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Re: Installation question

[David Fox]

On 10/9/07, jekillen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Is apt-cdrom add a command line program? I did not see it in
> administration

Yes, it's run at the command line - you need to run it as root, so you should
either su to root or use sudo and do
$ sudo apt-cdrom add

It should then prompt you to put the cd's in the drive one at a time.


> menu, only Synaptic which when launched presented dialogs about
> Debian site files being no existent. I am not sitting at the machine at
> this moment so I cannot reproduce the exact lines and error messages.

Do you have an /etc/apt/sources.list? Running the apt-cdrom add command will
populate it with lines representing the individual CD source disks.


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Re: Installation question

[jekillen]

On Oct 9, 2007, at 9:15 PM, David Fox wrote:


On 10/9/07, jekillen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Greetings:
I am impatient and am having a problem with my installation of
etch. I purchased a commercially available Debian cd package
and installed the system without a problem. But I am tying to


Well, if you have the CD's readily available, have you "fed" them to
the system via apt-cdrom add?
Is apt-cdrom add a command line program? I did not see it in 
administration

menu, only Synaptic which when launched presented dialogs about
Debian site files being no existent. I am not sitting at the machine at
this moment so I cannot reproduce the exact lines and error messages.
i found aptitude also but am at a loss as to how to proceed.
This is stuff either I have missed or it is not part of what I have to 
hand.

I presume there would be man pages for these programs(?)

I am strung between two worlds, gui ala Mac and command line Unix.

Regardless, thanks so much for the info. It is giving me some direction
Jeff K


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Re: Installation question

[David Fox]

On 10/9/07, jekillen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings:
> I am impatient and am having a problem with my installation of
> etch. I purchased a commercially available Debian cd package
> and installed the system without a problem. But I am tying to

Well, if you have the CD's readily available, have you "fed" them to
the system via apt-cdrom add?

There are proxy settings available to apt, but I haven't needed to use
proxies and so I am clueless as how that is done. But if you have the
cd's readily available, you should be able to install anything off of
those cd's and then if you need updates you can pursue that later.

For instance, if you do an aptitude install kde it will bring in all
the kde packages, and if apt-cdrom has been run beforehand, it knows
which disk those packages are on so it will prompt you to insert the
cd's as needed - most of those packages should be on the first CD,
since they're popular.

Hope someone else can chime in about how to set up proxies in the apt
configuration.


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Installation question

[jekillen]

Greetings:
I am impatient and am having a problem with my installation of
etch. I purchased a commercially available Debian cd package
and installed the system without a problem. But I am tying to
use the Synaptic package manager and am having a problem
with it connecting to the Debian site via a proxy.  I have set the
preferences in the package manager to use a proxy. The proxy
is a Mac OSX machine running Apache. I am unclear as to how
the package manager would use that. I have the web browsers,
Epiphany and IceWeasel, using the proxy set up and they do
just fine with it. (All though, if I follow a link in the proxy home
page with Epiphany, it loops back to the document root index
and I have to use reload to get it out to the target site in the
link.)

 I want to install KDE and noticed that among the 24 cds there
is one labeled KDE install 1.
Does that mean that that cd would install the system with KDE
and not Gnome?
(I actually want both because some apps run under one or the
other and not both).
The system is going to be a desktop/workstation that I plan
on using for graphics, page layout/word processing and
MIDI/audio applications. So I would like to get past the
barrier of learning to use the package management system.

Thanks for knowledgeable guidance, advice, and suggestions.
Jeff K


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Re: Debian etch RC1 installation question

[Kevin Mark]

On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 11:22:07AM +0200, Aladdin wrote:
> 
> So if I'll not touch anything regarding selinux after my install - shall I 
> have disabled selinux? Right?
> 
> In selinux config file I have the following entries (I didn't touch anything):
> 
> # This file controls the state of SELinux on the system.
> # SELINUX= can take one of these three values:
> # enforcing - SELinux security policy is enforced.
> # permissive - SELinux prints warnings instead of enforcing.
> # disabled - No SELinux policy is loaded.
> SELINUX=permissive
> 
> As I can understand selinux is enabled? Or am I wrong? Because in logs I can 
> see the following messages:
> 
> Nov 14 07:27:56 vega kernel: Security Framework v1.0.0 initialized
> Nov 14 07:27:56 vega kernel: SELinux:  Disabled at boot.
> Nov 14 07:27:56 vega kernel: Capability LSM initialized
> 
> I'm little confused here:(
> 
> > Read the instructions: there is SELinux support in the base packages for
> > those that need that functionality. SELinux is not enabled by default:
> > you have to make changes manually after reboot to enable it.
> > 
> > The extra overhead to allow for SELinux support in base packages like
> > login is a few k in disk space: if you don't want to use SELinux after
> > the first reboot, then don't enable it.
> 
Hi Aladdin,
there are 2 settings that affect you: the kernel command line
option(selinux=) and the config file with the SELINUX= variable:

selinux| SELINUX  | selinux status   | result   
-
missing|  | selinux disabled | no effect
0  |  | selinux disabled | no effect
1  |disabled  | selinux disabled | no effect
1  |permissive| selinux enabled  | no visible effect
  | but in debugging mode| except debugging messages
1  |enforcing | selinux enabled  | increased security

cheers,
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RE: Debian etch RC1 installation question

[Aladdin]

So if I'll not touch anything regarding selinux after my install - shall I have 
disabled selinux? Right?

In selinux config file I have the following entries (I didn't touch anything):

# This file controls the state of SELinux on the system.
# SELINUX= can take one of these three values:
# enforcing - SELinux security policy is enforced.
# permissive - SELinux prints warnings instead of enforcing.
# disabled - No SELinux policy is loaded.
SELINUX=permissive

As I can understand selinux is enabled? Or am I wrong? Because in logs I can 
see the following messages:

Nov 14 07:27:56 vega kernel: Security Framework v1.0.0 initialized
Nov 14 07:27:56 vega kernel: SELinux:  Disabled at boot.
Nov 14 07:27:56 vega kernel: Capability LSM initialized

I'm little confused here:(

> Read the instructions: there is SELinux support in the base packages for
> those that need that functionality. SELinux is not enabled by default:
> you have to make changes manually after reboot to enable it.
> 
> The extra overhead to allow for SELinux support in base packages like
> login is a few k in disk space: if you don't want to use SELinux after
> the first reboot, then don't enable it.



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Re: Debian etch RC1 installation question

[Kevin Mark]

On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 09:32:02AM +0200, Debeselis wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I just downloaded RC1 yesterday and tried to do clean installation. I
> noticed that this install tries to install some packages of Selinux by
> default. My question is - is there any way to disable these packages
> installations, will selinux be enabled on my machine after istall is
> finished and how can I safely remove selinux support from my machine?
> Thanks.
Hi Debeselis,
nothing to worry about! It is not operating by default. There is only
support for it, if you want to use it. SELinux is mostly some bits added
to the Kernel and some additions to basic gnu tools and libraries, so
this does not add much in terms of bytes to your system. Also, SELinux
support has been included in sid for sometime, so you have it already
and didnt know it :-) If you want to use it, then you simply add a few
command line option to your kernel. This requires education about how it
works, so dont enable it until you have read a bit about it.
Cheers,
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Re: Debian etch RC1 installation question

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 09:32:02AM +0200, Debeselis wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I just downloaded RC1 yesterday and tried to do clean installation. I noticed 
> that this install tries to install some packages of
> Selinux by default. My question is - is there any way to disable these 
> packages installations, will selinux be enabled on my machine
> after istall is finished and how can I safely remove selinux support from my 
> machine? Thanks.
> 
Read the instructions: there is SELinux support in the base packages for 
those that need that functionality. SELinux is not enabled by default: 
you have to make changes manually after reboot to enable it.

The extra overhead to allow for SELinux support in base packages like 
login is a few k in disk space: if you don't want to use SELinux after 
the first reboot, then don't enable it.

Andy


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Debian etch RC1 installation question

[Debeselis]

Hi,

I just downloaded RC1 yesterday and tried to do clean installation. I noticed 
that this install tries to install some packages of
Selinux by default. My question is - is there any way to disable these packages 
installations, will selinux be enabled on my machine
after istall is finished and how can I safely remove selinux support from my 
machine? Thanks.




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Re: Debian Installation Question

[Emil Khatib]

Do you get any message box reporting any problem? If you do, try to
send the error, if you do not, change to the fiirst virtual console
(Ctrl + Alt + F1). Surely you will read an eror message or warning
there.

Good luck!

Debian Installation Question

[Michael Kerwin]

As a followup to this problem I discovered in text mode that I was 
getting a message on the screen when it beeped. It says found IRQ 5 for 
device 00:0a.0


ETH0 setting half - duplex based on MII#1 local partner capabiltiy of 

Anyone know why this is happening? Is my network card to old?


Thanks for your help.




old message

I am new to Debian and have set up one computer with debian 3.1 and when 
it boots into the gnome login screen it beeps 3 times in a row but 
displays the screen correctly. Then after logining in and going into 
gnome after about 1 minute the screen goes blank and the computer beeps 
3 times. If you hit enter the screen comes back and it is fine. Anyone 
have any idea what is wrong? I have changed out memory and video cards 
and it still does the same thing.


I have another question, is there a limit on how big a ide hard disk can 
be with debian 3.1? I am trying to install it on an AMD Atholon 64 bit 
with the netinst 64 bit disc but it doesn't see my 200GB Harddisk.


Thanks for you help.

Michael Kerwin




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[Michael Kerwin]

I am new to Debian and have set up one computer with debian 3.1 and when 
it boots into the gnome login screen it beeps 3 times in a row but 
displays the screen correctly. Then after logining in and going into 
gnome after about 1 minute the screen goes blank and the computer beeps 
3 times. If you hit enter the screen comes back and it is fine. Anyone 
have any idea what is wrong? I have changed out memory and video cards 
and it still does the same thing.


I have another question, is there a limit on how big a ide hard disk can 
be with debian 3.1? I am trying to install it on an AMD Atholon 64 bit 
with the netinst 64 bit disc but it doesn't see my 200GB Harddisk.


Thanks for you help.

Michael Kerwin


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Re: newbie installation question

[Kent West]

Brian M. Godfrey wrote:
But I'd suggest installing Sarge instead of Woody.
(Let the flamefest begin . . . .)
   

  I haven't seen any flames yet, Kent.  Maybe it's a good idea.  But I can 
borrow the 3.0r2 disks which, I think, are Woody.  I'm sure they'll be fine 
for now.  Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
  Thanks,

--Brian M. Godfrey 

 

Sarge has a new installer which tends to do a better job of 
autodetecting stuff. Plus, you'll get newer versions of a lot of 
packages, which might help with say, video drivers.

My personal preference is to run Stable (Woody) on servers, and Unstable 
(Sid) on workstations; I start the workstation installs with the Testing 
(Sarge) installer, and then upgrade to Sid.

But [starting from / staying at ] Woody works too, if that's what you 
prefer.

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Re: newbie installation question

[Brian M. Godfrey]

> But I'd suggest installing Sarge instead of Woody.
> (Let the flamefest begin . . . .)

   I haven't seen any flames yet, Kent.  Maybe it's a good idea.  But I can 
borrow the 3.0r2 disks which, I think, are Woody.  I'm sure they'll be fine 
for now.  Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
   Thanks,

--Brian M. Godfrey 


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[Brian M. Godfrey]

> You can also install at this reboot the 'rescue' package
> apt-cache policy rescue
> ...
> There you'll find all info about your machine.

   That sounds handy.  I'll do it.  Too bad I can't run it before the 
install so I'd just have to do it once.  (Well, one less time, anyway. :-)
   Thanks,

--Brian M. Godfrey 


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Re: newbie installation question

[Kent West]

Brian M. Godfrey wrote:
This included hotplug (if you use kernel 2.6)
and discover. discover is also part of Woody (the stable version), but
not part of the base system. You can however install it later.
   

  So I could install the stable version (Woody) minimally
But I'd suggest installing Sarge instead of Woody.
(Let the flamefest begin . . . .)
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Re: newbie installation question

[messmate]

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 23:03:42 +0100
Andreas Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hello
>
>Brian M. Godfrey (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>
>>> This included hotplug (if you use kernel 2.6)
>>> and discover. discover is also part of Woody (the stable version),
>>> but not part of the base system. You can however install it later.
>> 
>> So I could install the stable version (Woody) minimally, just to get 
>> it to boot up, then install discover...sounds easy enough.  Then do I
>> have to reboot to get the system properly setup, or does it do so
>> while Linux is running?
>
>You do not need to reboot to run discover and load the drivers, but
>probably you want to install another kernel instead of the one you used
>for installation. To use it, you need to reboot.
>
>best regards
> Andreas Janssen
>
Well, you NEED to reboot to FINISH the install.
You can also install at this reboot the 'rescue' package 
apt-cache policy rescue
rescue:
  Installed: 0.3-3
  Candidate: 0.3-3
  Version Table:
 *** 0.3-3 0
500 ftp://ftp.internatif.org ./ Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
There you'll find all info about your machine.
/var/state/rescue
/var/state/rescue/cpuinfo
/var/state/rescue/df
/var/state/rescue/dma
/var/state/rescue/dmesg
/var/state/rescue/dump_hdb7
/var/state/rescue/fdisk
/var/state/rescue/fstab
/var/state/rescue/host.conf
/var/state/rescue/ifconfig
/var/state/rescue/interrupts
/var/state/rescue/ioports
/var/state/rescue/lilo.conf
/var/state/rescue/lsmod
/var/state/rescue/modules
/var/state/rescue/mount
/var/state/rescue/networks
/var/state/rescue/partitions
/var/state/rescue/pci
/var/state/rescue/rescue.ps
/var/state/rescue/resolv.conf
/var/state/rescue/route
/var/state/rescue/scsi
/var/www/pdbv/package/rescue_0.3-3.html

mess-mate


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[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Brian M. Godfrey (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

>> This included hotplug (if you use kernel 2.6)
>> and discover. discover is also part of Woody (the stable version),
>> but not part of the base system. You can however install it later.
> 
> So I could install the stable version (Woody) minimally, just to get 
> it to boot up, then install discover...sounds easy enough.  Then do I 
> have to reboot to get the system properly setup, or does it do so
> while Linux is running?

You do not need to reboot to run discover and load the drivers, but
probably you want to install another kernel instead of the one you used
for installation. To use it, you need to reboot.

best regards
 Andreas Janssen

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Re: newbie installation question

[Brian M. Godfrey]

> This included hotplug (if you use kernel 2.6)
> and discover. discover is also part of Woody (the stable version), but
> not part of the base system. You can however install it later.

   So I could install the stable version (Woody) minimally, just to get it 
to boot up, then install discover...sounds easy enough.  Then do I have to 
reboot to get the system properly setup, or does it do so while Linux is 
running?
   Thank you,

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Re: newbie installation question

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Brian M. Godfrey (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I am considering installation of Debian Linux on an older PC - a
> Compaq 4850. I want to refamiliarize myself with Unix, after being a 
> Windows user since early 1993. I was a user of various versions of 
> Unix for about 12 years prior to then, but I am so rusty and out of 
> date that I am essentially a newbie at this point.   
> Anyway, my question is, do I need to know make/model of all of the
> various pieces of hardware inside the PC in order to install Debian? 
> Or will it "autodetect" everything?

Depends on your hardware. PCI and ISA pnp hardware can be autodetected.
If you install Sarge (the current "testing" version) programs for
automatic detection of hardware will be used during installation and be
part of the base system. This included hotplug (if you use kernel 2.6)
and discover. discover is also part of Woody (the stable version), but
not part of the base system. You can however install it later.

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[Brian M. Godfrey]

Hi,
   I am considering installation of Debian Linux on an older PC - a Compaq
4850.  I want to refamiliarize myself with Unix, after being a Windows user
since early 1993.  I was a user of various versions of Unix for about 12
years prior to then, but I am so rusty and out of date that I am essentially
a newbie at this point.
   Anyway, my question is, do I need to know make/model of all of the
various pieces of hardware inside the PC in order to install Debian?  Or
will it "autodetect" everything?
   Thank you,

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Re: debian automatic installation question

[John Summerfield]

Jin Zhao wrote:
Hi,
Recently I started converting my servers from Redhat to Debian. I was a
long time redhat user. and now find myself facing multiple ways of
automatic installation -- fai, replicator, systemimager, autoinstall.
Before deeply digging into these different beasts, I hope to hear
suggestions from people who know debian much better than me. Can anybody
introduce your own experiences with these methods and also your
preferences for them?
My server farm is composed of machines with relatively differrent
hardware setup -- different cpus (Intel, AMD), differrent disk
controllers (Adaptec U320 SCSI, Adaptec U160 SCSI, 3wares SATA), and
more servers are coming in weeks, most of which are 3wares SATA, Xeon
servers. From what I learned so far, auto-install and fai seem more
flexible than others. I am currently testing auto-install and will try
fai later.
 


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[Jin Zhao]

Hi,

Recently I started converting my servers from Redhat to Debian. I was a
long time redhat user. and now find myself facing multiple ways of
automatic installation -- fai, replicator, systemimager, autoinstall.
Before deeply digging into these different beasts, I hope to hear
suggestions from people who know debian much better than me. Can anybody
introduce your own experiences with these methods and also your
preferences for them?

My server farm is composed of machines with relatively differrent
hardware setup -- different cpus (Intel, AMD), differrent disk
controllers (Adaptec U320 SCSI, Adaptec U160 SCSI, 3wares SATA), and
more servers are coming in weeks, most of which are 3wares SATA, Xeon
servers. From what I learned so far, auto-install and fai seem more
flexible than others. I am currently testing auto-install and will try
fai later.

Any ideas are welcome. Hopefully people won't just say 'compare it by
yourseself'. :)

Thanks,


Jin


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Re: postgres installation question

[Oliver Elphick]

On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 22:19, Tom Allison wrote:
> I'm doing a -testing installation of postgresql.
> 
> I have the user postgres in the passwd file.
> I don't know what the password is.
> 
> I'm wondering:
> 
> Should I know it?  I can always su posgres from root, but I don't always 
> want to have to go root first.  Is there is any problems with having a 
> real password for login (from say SSH for admin purposes).

It doesn't have a password, unless and until root gives it one.

There is no harm in giving it a password, but the package installation
isn't going to do that, since "su postgres" will do just as well and let
you know which real person is doing things.

In addition, if you create a PostgreSQL user to match your sytem login
and make that user a PostgreQSL administrator (i.e, able to create users
as well as databases) there is almost nothing that you need to log on as
`postgres' to do.
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I'm doing a -testing installation of postgresql.
I have the user postgres in the passwd file.
I don't know what the password is.
I'm wondering:
Should I know it?  I can always su posgres from root, but I don't always 
want to have to go root first.  Is there is any problems with having a 
real password for login (from say SSH for admin purposes).


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Re: installation question?

[Kent West]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We are using Debian for a linux installation, .. yet there is
NO need to setup a Server and all that
jazz. The only instructions or "How to" guides we have instruct
building a server, networking, etc. [b:47e5d03b6f]All we want is a
Regular WORKSTATION setup.[/b:47e5d03b6f] word processing,
graphic type work, home Internet Access, possibly a BASIC and/or C
compiler, etc.  that's IT. What options or choices should we look
for a regular setup like this during installation? Thank you in
advance for any help.

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The instructions at
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install.en.html#contents
are for setting up a minimal system (neither server, nor workstation).
Then just install other packages you'd want on your workstation, like so:

apt-get install x-window-system kde openoffice.org mozilla-firefox 
mozilla-thunderbird bibletime gimp gaim xmms gramps synaptic xpdf

which will go a long way toward getting you a functional workstation. 
You can use "dselect" (older method) or "aptitude" (recommended) or 
"synaptic" (in X only) as a menu-driven front-end for selecting packages.

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Re: installation question?

[Clive Menzies]

On (06/03/04 08:29), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> We are using Debian for a linux installation, .. yet there is
> NO need to setup a Server and all that
> jazz. The only instructions or "How to" guides we have instruct
> building a server, networking, etc. [b:47e5d03b6f]All we want is a
> Regular WORKSTATION setup.[/b:47e5d03b6f] word processing,
> graphic type work, home Internet Access, possibly a BASIC and/or C
> compiler, etc.  that's IT. What options or choices should we look
> for a regular setup like this during installation? Thank you in
> advance for any help.
During installation, you are offered the option to run tasksel which
gives you options such as "desktop" which will install the sort of
packages you will need.  After installation you can fine tune your
system (add and remove packages) using dselect or aptitude.

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installation question?

[users]

We are using Debian for a linux installation, .. yet there is
NO need to setup a Server and all that
jazz. The only instructions or "How to" guides we have instruct
building a server, networking, etc. [b:47e5d03b6f]All we want is a
Regular WORKSTATION setup.[/b:47e5d03b6f] word processing,
graphic type work, home Internet Access, possibly a BASIC and/or C
compiler, etc.  that's IT. What options or choices should we look
for a regular setup like this during installation? Thank you in
advance for any help.

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Re: kernel-header installation question

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Haines Brown (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I'm seeing to compile an inteface for the nVidia driver on a new
> basic installation of debian 3.0r1. The nVida installation dialog says
> the kernel headers are not found.
> 
> So I install the headers. The first time that went well, and the
> second time:
> 
># aptitude install kernel-headers-2.4.18-bf2.4
>...
>Sorry, kernel-headers-2.4.18-bf2.4 is already installed in the
>requested version (2.4.18-5).
> 
> I find that my /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.18-bf2.4 directory only
> holds a .config file and an include directory. I assume that what I
> should see here is a file with an .h extension if the header is
> actually installed.

I think everything is okay with your kernel headers installation, but
the nvidia driver installation program cannot find them. Either use the
necessary parameter, or make some symlink:

ln -s /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.18-bf2.4 linux

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: kernel-header installation question

[Haines Brown]

> On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:52:02 -0500 (EST)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Haines Brown) wrote:
> 
> > I find that my /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.18-bf2.4 directory only
> > holds a .config file and an include directory. I assume that what I
> > should see here is a file with an .h extension if the header is
> > actually installed.
> ...
> the .h files are in the include directory as they wpuld be with the
> kernel source

Abert, thanks. I had not dug sufficiently deeply. nVidia interface now
compiled by, using the --kernel-include-path option. 

Haines


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Re: kernel-header installation question

[Albert Dengg]

On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:52:02 -0500 (EST)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Haines Brown) wrote:

...
> I find that my /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.18-bf2.4 directory only
> holds a .config file and an include directory. I assume that what I
> should see here is a file with an .h extension if the header is
> actually installed.
...
the .h files are in the include directory as they wpuld be with the
kernel source

yours,
Albert

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