want to use old serial mouse

2011-03-14 Thread Steve Kleene
I have a good new installation of testing (Wheezy).  I would like to use my
old three-button roll-ball serial mouse (Logitech M-MD15L) but have so far
failed.  The PC is new with an Intel i5 motherboard and a serial port.

With Lenny, it was sufficient to have this section in xorg.conf:

  Section InputDevice
  Identifier  Configured Mouse
  Driver  mouse
  Option  CorePointer
  Option  Device/dev/ttyS0
  Option  Protocol  Microsoft
  Option  Emulate3Buttons   true
  EndSection

That hasn't worked.  I also tried replacing /dev/ttyS0 with
/dev/input/mice.  I have tried the same two versions of xorg.conf with the
mouse on a serial-to-USB adapter instead of the direct serial port.  None of
these four configurations supported the serial mouse.  I'm testing while
running the fvwm window manager.  I have xserver-xorg-input-mouse installed.

In all four cases, Xorg.0.log looked about the same.  These were the only
lines with mouse in them:

  (**) |--Input Device Configured Mouse
  (WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or \
'vmmouse' will be disabled.
  (WW) Disabling Configured Mouse
  (==) intel(0): Silken mouse enabled

I can post the whole file if necessary.

Connecting a modern USB mouse works and creates /dev/mouse0.  I think the old
mouse, even via the USB adapter, is not detected by udev.  At least I don't
see anything new under /dev after I plug it in.

Is there any way to get the old mouse working with Wheezy?  Thanks.


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Re: want to use old serial mouse

2011-03-14 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 02:29:51PM +, Steve Kleene wrote:
 Is there any way to get the old mouse working with Wheezy?  Thanks.

I'm only educated-guessing here, but I think the best strategy would be to get
the kernel input system to see the mouse, and then X will automagically see it,
too.

Take a look at the inputattach(1) package.



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Re: want to use old serial mouse

2011-03-14 Thread Leonardo Ruoso
# aptitude --with-recommends install inputattach
# inputattach --help

Emulate3Buttons should be turned off... you don't need emulation if you have
three buttons ;-).


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2011/3/14 Steve Kleene sk...@syrano.acb.uc.edu

 I have a good new installation of testing (Wheezy).  I would like to use my
 old three-button roll-ball serial mouse (Logitech M-MD15L) but have so far
 failed.  The PC is new with an Intel i5 motherboard and a serial port.

 With Lenny, it was sufficient to have this section in xorg.conf:

  Section InputDevice
  Identifier  Configured Mouse
  Driver  mouse
  Option  CorePointer
  Option  Device/dev/ttyS0
  Option  Protocol  Microsoft
  Option  Emulate3Buttons   true
  EndSection

 That hasn't worked.  I also tried replacing /dev/ttyS0 with
 /dev/input/mice.  I have tried the same two versions of xorg.conf with
 the
 mouse on a serial-to-USB adapter instead of the direct serial port.  None
 of
 these four configurations supported the serial mouse.  I'm testing while
 running the fvwm window manager.  I have xserver-xorg-input-mouse
 installed.

 In all four cases, Xorg.0.log looked about the same.  These were the only
 lines with mouse in them:

  (**) |--Input Device Configured Mouse
  (WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or \
'vmmouse' will be disabled.
  (WW) Disabling Configured Mouse
  (==) intel(0): Silken mouse enabled

 I can post the whole file if necessary.

 Connecting a modern USB mouse works and creates /dev/mouse0.  I think the
 old
 mouse, even via the USB adapter, is not detected by udev.  At least I don't
 see anything new under /dev after I plug it in.

 Is there any way to get the old mouse working with Wheezy?  Thanks.


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Re: want to use old serial mouse

2011-03-14 Thread Steve Kleene
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:29:51 + (UTC), I wrote:

 I have a good new installation of testing (Wheezy).  I would like to use my
 old three-button roll-ball serial mouse (Logitech M-MD15L) but have so far
 failed.

On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:39:00 +, Jon Dowland replied:

 Take a look at the inputattach(1) package.

and on Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:44:28 +, Leonardo Ruoso concurred:

 # aptitude --with-recommends install inputattach

Thanks!  One of the two methods in the inputattach README file worked,
namely adding this to /etc/rc.local:

  inputattach --daemon -mman /dev/ttyS0

The alternate approach mentioned in the README file, adding this to
/etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules:

  ACTION=add, KERNEL==ttyS0, RUN+=inputattach --daemon -mman %p

didn't work, but I only need one solution.  Thanks again.


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Re: [SOLVED] New 3-button serial mouse not detected by Lenny

2010-05-22 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 16. 05. 2010 15:59:19 je Chris Austin napisal(a):
The three buttons now appear to be working as they are supposed to,  
i.e. 1 for
select, 2 for context menus, and middle / 3 for paste, and even just  
while
writing this message it has been an enormous relief to be able to  
paste with a
proper middle button, rather than by 3-button emulation, which in  
Lenny
frequently gives an unwanted context menu, and even worse, sometimes  
activates

an item in that context menu.


Uhm? I've been using Lenny on three different machines since 5.00 first  
came out and haven't seen the behavior you describe. Even my Genius  
bluetooth mouse works without a glitch, as do two distinct wireless  
Trust el-cheapo mice (one PS/2, the other USB). I *do* however  
encounter a somewhat similar problem with my laptop's touchpad: in  
Iceweasel, instead of scrolling the page (the touchpad has right-edge  
scrolling enabled by default), it apparently tries to jump to another  
URL, or maybe pastes an URL from somewhere. Haven't yet been able to  
track down the source of this annoyance though ... ;(


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Re: [SOLVED] New 3-button serial mouse not detected by Lenny

2010-05-18 Thread Lisi
On Monday 17 May 2010 12:50:49 Chris Austin wrote:
  Do you have some reason for not wanting to use a scrollwheel?

 Not really, but looking on Google for 3-button mice, I saw a message that
 said a scroll-wheel mouse is fiddly to use, and the scroll-wheel has to be
 clicked accurately, or something to that effect.

I have never had a problem with this in the 4/5 years that I have been using 
Linux, with a large variety of different scroll wheel mice on a number of 
different computers and in various distros.  I find a scroll wheel mouse much 
easier to use than a three button mouse, because the distinction between the 
buttons is easier to identify.

Lisi


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Re: Re: [SOLVED] New 3-button serial mouse not detected by Lenny

2010-05-17 Thread Chris Austin
Hi,

On Mon, 17 May 2010 deloptes wrote:

 Just for the record there are many ways to make it done and I think this
 article explains a lot concerning your issue

 http://www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~danlee/fun/psaux/

Thanks for the link.

On Mon, 17 May 2010 Tom Furie wrote:

 Do you have some reason for not wanting to use a scrollwheel?

Not really, but looking on Google for 3-button mice, I saw a message that said
a scroll-wheel mouse is fiddly to use, and the scroll-wheel has to be clicked
accurately, or something to that effect.  I had never seen one close up, so I
wasn't sure how they worked, and besides, I don't need a scrollwheel.  In fact
I purchased two anyway, and the first arrived this morning.

 Have you been using a scrollwheel mouse with 3-button emulation?

No, it was a Maxtro 2-button mouse, new around 2003.  3-button emulation
worked well in Woody and Etch, but when I did a fresh install of Lenny when it
became Stable in April last year, everything was brilliant, except that the
3-button emulation seemed to have deteriorated for some reason.  In
desperation I extended the Emulate3Timeout as described on
http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2009/11/msg00120.html and worked with
that for a year, but due I guess to less software contact bounce suppression
in Xorg than in XFree86, I often still got unwanted context menus.

Best regards,
Chris Austin.


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Re: [SOLVED] New 3-button serial mouse not detected by Lenny

2010-05-17 Thread Ron Johnson

On 05/17/2010 06:50 AM, Chris Austin wrote:

On Mon, 17 May 2010 Tom Furie wrote:


Do you have some reason for not wanting to use a scrollwheel?


Not really, but looking on Google for 3-button mice, I saw a message that said
a scroll-wheel mouse is fiddly to use, and the scroll-wheel has to be clicked
accurately, or something to that effect.  I had never seen one close up, so I
wasn't sure how they worked, and besides, I don't need a scrollwheel.  In fact
I purchased two anyway, and the first arrived this morning.



The fist time you accidentally move the mouse over to Window B and 
scroll the wheel while Window A is active, you'll wonder how you 
ever lived without it.


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Re: [SOLVED] New 3-button serial mouse not detected by Lenny

2010-05-16 Thread Chris Austin
Hi,

On Saturday 15 May 2010 23:11:27 Kent West wrote:
 I would take X out of the equation, and see if you can get it working in
 the console with gpm.

This has now worked, and the 3-button serial mouse is now working in KDE with
the data fed through gpm more or less as described in

http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/FAQ#lefthandmouse

but with a crucial difference.  Specifically, the non-commented-out lines of
/etc/gpm.conf now read:

device=/dev/ttyS0
responsiveness=
repeat_type=ms3
type=mman
append=''
sample_rate=

And the non-commented-out lines of the only part of /etc/X11/xorg.conf that
refers to the mouse now read:

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Configured Mouse
Driver  mouse
Option Device /dev/gpmdata
Option Protocol IntelliMouse
Option ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection

The most crucial difference from what I expected from the documentation, and
from what dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg put in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, is the line
device=/dev/ttyS0
in /etc/gpm.conf.  I guess the explanation must be that /dev/input/mice is only
for PS/2 mice.  So the statement by Xorg -configure that Xorg detected the
(serial) mouse at /dev/input/mice is at present unexplained.

A clue to why the above arrangement works is provided in
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/3-Button-Mouse-8.html
which states that the -R option of gpm, apparently related to repeat_type,
makes gpm re-export the mouse data to a new device, called /dev/gpmdata, which
looks like a mouse to any other program.

This 3-button mouse is the one described as 3 Button AT Serial Mouse 520 DPI on
Amazon UK and was purchased from CableCity.co.uk via Amazon.  I subsequently
found and purchased a PS/2 mouse of the same design on the CableCity website,
but it hasn't arrived yet.  These two mice are the only genuine 3-button mice
with 3 genuine buttons rather than 2 buttons plus a scrollwheel / button that I
could find.  The PS/2 mouse on the CableCity website cost just 99 pence plus
postage and is marked for clearance, which seems a shame.  The name on the
serial mouse box is Easy Mouse, and the box says Made in China.  The side panel
of the box indicates that a USB version and a Combo PS/2+USB version might also
be available.

The three buttons now appear to be working as they are supposed to, i.e. 1 for
select, 2 for context menus, and middle / 3 for paste, and even just while
writing this message it has been an enormous relief to be able to paste with a
proper middle button, rather than by 3-button emulation, which in Lenny
frequently gives an unwanted context menu, and even worse, sometimes activates
an item in that context menu.

Best regards,
Chris Austin.


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Re: [SOLVED] New 3-button serial mouse not detected by Lenny

2010-05-16 Thread deloptes
Chris Austin wrote:

 This has now worked, and the 3-button serial mouse is now working in KDE
 with the data fed through gpm more or less as described in

Just for the record there are many ways to make it done and I think this
article explains a lot concerning your issue

http://www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~danlee/fun/psaux/

regards


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Re: [SOLVED] New 3-button serial mouse not detected by Lenny

2010-05-16 Thread Tom Furie
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 02:59:19PM +0100, Chris Austin wrote:

 These two mice are the only genuine 3-button mice with 3 genuine
 buttons rather than 2 buttons plus a scrollwheel / button that I could
 find. 

Do you have some reason for not wanting to use a scrollwheel?

 The three buttons now appear to be working as they are supposed to,
 i.e. 1 for select, 2 for context menus, and middle / 3 for paste, and
 even just while writing this message it has been an enormous relief to
 be able to paste with a proper middle button, rather than by 3-button
 emulation, which in Lenny frequently gives an unwanted context menu,
 and even worse, sometimes activates an item in that context menu.

Have you been using a scrollwheel mouse with 3-button emulation?

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New 3-button serial mouse not detected by Lenny

2010-05-15 Thread Chris Austin
Hi,

I have just bought a new 3-button mouse since 3-button emulation does not seem 
to work well in Lenny - I had a lot of trouble with unpredictable behaviour 
apparently due to contact bounce and getting unwanted context menus, some of 
whose entries were sometimes unintentionally activated, with bad effects - but 
unfortunately the new mouse is serial rather than PS/2.

I have done dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root in a terminal before starting 
kdm, but there was no mention of a mouse, only keyboard options were mentioned. 
 And the new mouse is completely non-functional after doing kdm.

I have also tried Xorg -configure, and the following message was given:

Xorg detected your mouse at device /dev/input/mice.  Please check your config 
if the mouse is still not operational, as by default Xorg tries to autodetect 
the protocol.  Your xorg.conf file is /root/xorg.conf.new.

The only mentions of the mouse in /root/xorg.conf.new are in the first section:

Section ServerLayout
Identifier X.org Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

and in a later section:

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Device /dev/input/mice
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
EndSection

I ran X -config /root/xorg.conf.new to test the new xorg.conf, but the new 
mouse was still nonfunctional.  It was plugged into Serial port 1, and I also 
tried going into the BIOS and altering Onboard Serial Port A from 3f8h/COM1 to 
Auto, but this didn't help either.

Are serial mice supported in Lenny?

Best regards,
Chris Austin.


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Re: New 3-button serial mouse not detected by Lenny

2010-05-15 Thread Kent West
On 5/15/10 10:34 AM, Chris Austin wrote:
 Hi,

 I have just bought a new 3-button mouse since 3-button emulation does not 
 seem to work well in Lenny - I had a lot of trouble with unpredictable 
 behaviour apparently due to contact bounce and getting unwanted context 
 menus, some of whose entries were sometimes unintentionally activated, with 
 bad effects - but unfortunately the new mouse is serial rather than PS/2.

 I have done dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root in a terminal before 
 starting kdm, but there was no mention of a mouse, only keyboard options were 
 mentioned.  And the new mouse is completely non-functional after doing kdm.

 I have also tried Xorg -configure, and the following message was given:

 Xorg detected your mouse at device /dev/input/mice.  Please check your config 
 if the mouse is still not operational, as by default Xorg tries to autodetect 
 the protocol.  Your xorg.conf file is /root/xorg.conf.new.

 The only mentions of the mouse in /root/xorg.conf.new are in the first 
 section:

 Section ServerLayout
 Identifier X.org Configured
 Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
 EndSection

 and in a later section:

 Section InputDevice
 Identifier  Mouse0
 Driver  mouse
 Option  Protocol auto
 Option  Device /dev/input/mice
 Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
 EndSection

 I ran X -config /root/xorg.conf.new to test the new xorg.conf, but the new 
 mouse was still nonfunctional.  It was plugged into Serial port 1, and I also 
 tried going into the BIOS and altering Onboard Serial Port A from 3f8h/COM1 
 to Auto, but this didn't help either.

 Are serial mice supported in Lenny?

 Best regards,
 Chris Austin.


   
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Etch new install can´t see my serial mouse

2006-09-29 Thread Bruno Buys
Just installed a brand new etch on a athlon2400. Mouse is serial and xorg won´t load complaining 'no core pointer'.I tried both imps2 and explore-something (the only 2 options), but no good.I also tried to locate my mouse, doing:
cat /dev/input/mice (which is the suggested location, by dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg)cat /dev/ttyS0 (worked to me several times in the past)cat /dev/ttyS1cat /dev/ttyS2cat /dev/ttyS3None of them seem to have a mouse. ttyS0 when catted, throws a bunch of random unreadable chars in the screen without me even touching the mouse. When ctrl-c´ed, the prompt is left screwed. The other tty´s don´t cat anything at all.
any ideas?thanks!


Re: Etch new install can?t see my serial mouse

2006-09-29 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 10:47:21AM -0300, Bruno Buys wrote:
 Just installed a brand new etch on a athlon2400. Mouse is serial and xorg 
 won?t
 load complaining 'no core pointer'.
 I tried both imps2 and explore-something (the only 2 options), but no good.
 I also tried to locate my mouse, doing:
 cat /dev/input/mice (which is the suggested location, by dpkg-reconfigure
 xserver-xorg)
 cat /dev/ttyS0 (worked to me several times in the past)
 cat /dev/ttyS1
 cat /dev/ttyS2
 cat /dev/ttyS3
 
 None of them seem to have a mouse. ttyS0 when catted, throws a bunch of random
 unreadable chars in the screen without me even touching the mouse. When ctrl-
 c?ed, the prompt is left screwed. The other tty?s don?t cat anything at all.
 
 
 any ideas?
 thanks!
Maybe you need to load the kernel modules in /etc/modules as the kernel
and udev can not 'detect' a serial mouse being plugged in, at least that
is my understanding.  'sermouse' and 'mousedev' come to mind.
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Re: Etch new install can´t see my serial mouse

2006-09-29 Thread Evgeny M. Zubok
Bruno Buys [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Just installed a brand new etch on a athlon2400. Mouse is serial and xorg 
 won´t
 load complaining 'no core pointer'.
 I tried both imps2 and explore-something (the only 2 options), but no good.
 I also tried to locate my mouse, doing:
 cat /dev/input/mice (which is the suggested location, by dpkg-reconfigure
 xserver-xorg)
 cat /dev/ttyS0 (worked to me several times in the past)
 cat /dev/ttyS1
 cat /dev/ttyS2
 cat /dev/ttyS3

 None of them seem to have a mouse. ttyS0 when catted, throws a bunch of random
 unreadable chars in the screen without me even touching the mouse. When
 ctrl-c´ed, the prompt is left screwed. The other tty´s don´t cat anything at
 all.


 any ideas?
 thanks!

Look at lsmod output for 8250_pnp. If it there then the serial interface was
initialized. And show your xorg.conf, please. What the mouse you use?



Re: Etch new install can´t see my serial mouse

2006-09-29 Thread Evgeny M. Zubok
I plug my old serial mouse with Microsoft protocol into COM1
(ttyS0). Here is my configuration:

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse1
Driver  mouse
Option ProtocolMicrosoft
Option Device  /dev/ttyS0
Option Emulate3Buttons
Option Emulate3Timeout50
EndSection

My serial mouse works fine in Debian Etch xorg!

$ lsmod | grep 8250
8250_pnp8704  0 



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Re: Serial mouse config

2006-09-19 Thread Mumia W.

On 09/18/2006 08:52 PM, Andre Perrotta wrote:

Sorry, I forgot to write down the subject
Sorry


Hi, I'm trying to get a serial mouse to work but haven't had any sucess.

It is conected to /dev/ttyS0

but when I do:

cat /dev/ttyS0

it doesn't responds to my mouse actions

I'm sure it is /dev/ttyS0 cause it used to work with earlier dists i had
installed in my computer

I'm running Demudi 1.2.1 with the 2.6-multimedia kernel


Can anyone help me ?

thanks...



Do a dmesg | grep -i serial to see if the serial driver was loaded.

Also do grep serial /proc/ioports; if it's using 03f8-03ff, then the 
serial driver should be available on /dev/ttyS0.


Note, I know nothing about Demudi.


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Serial mouse config

2006-09-18 Thread Andre Perrotta
Sorry, I forgot to write down the subjectSorryHi, I'm trying to get a serial mouse to work but haven't had any sucess.It is conected to /dev/ttyS0but when I do:cat /dev/ttyS0 
it doesn't responds to my mouse actionsI'm sure it is /dev/ttyS0 cause it used to work with earlier dists i had installed in my computer
I'm running Demudi 1.2.1 with the 2.6-multimedia kernelCan anyone help me ?thanks...


asus tx97 + serial mouse

2006-01-21 Thread mess-mate
Hi 
i've installed a TX97 mb and can't get the serial mouse working.
Port com1 is set correctly by bios and by etch.
What strange is, knoppix detect a PS2 mouse, that's wrong and do not
work of course.
Anybody had this problem or can help me to solve that problem ?
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Woody serial mouse problems solved in BIOS?

2004-09-04 Thread Paul Hailey


Hi - after 3 weeks messing with Debian Woody bf2.4, I found out---
'standard' 9 pin serial mice may not work on the desktop (kde etc)
..
until you set the BIOS IRQ and memory address of serial ports 'ttyS0' and
/or 'ttyS1', to match the
settings that the '/etc/serial.conf' file contains. Obvious, but I didn't
find this using web searches.
I see some reference to port settings as the boot messages
appear,
(you can get them back with 'dmesg' to look at... alt +
page up or down, to scroll pages)
You can change the IRQ and address of each serial port setting in Woody
using 
dpkg-reconfigure setserial (serial.conf file is in /etc), but it's
better to take a look at the
last lines of the file manually, and check them against what the BIOS is
set to, and
alter and save..
My BIOS is on a ATX 586 mobo, it can set various port values, the
'default'
expected in bf 2.4 seems to be
ttyS0(= com1) address 3F8 IRQ
4 
ttyS1 address 2F8 IRQ 3 (= 'Com2')
so I matched those and at last I have a graphics mouse
There are loads of references to setting up the XFree86 config file with
the mouse parameters -
but no-one seems to have logged these possible problems from the BIOS
serial port settings,
if you have them on your BIOS (under 'peripherals' on my mobo). The Linux
OS does not seem
to realise what the bios is set to.
If you haven't looked at the XFree86 log file in /var/log do so - it
shows if the mouse bits are
loading correctly or not at the end of it. 
In my case I think I may have to hold a mouse button down as the 'gdm'
system starts up,
it hangs until the mouse is moved about - but at least an 'Auto' mouse
protocol setting on the XFree86
setup ( dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 ) works my ancient serial
mouse, 
-- but note,
it looks like when that dpkg prog. is run, it puts in an assumed
symlink setting (e.g to ttyS0) as
something like '/dev/input/mice' which is not much use, as
everyone's advising us to
use a symlink '/dev/mouse' ... so either change the
XF86Config-4 config file (in /etc/X11)
manually (which means not using the dpkg-reconfigure mode again) -- or
make
the symlink by command, to match the XF86Config-4 entry.
I'm not that good at symlink but the command is
ln -s /dev/ttyS0 /dev/mouse (for
/dev/mouse on ==Com1 !)
Would be useful if someone can tell me how to 'undo' a symlink!
The only other thing I messed around with was the 3 (or so) mouse
modules - if that's what they are - in the kernel config file settings
list
(in /boot) ... but I'm unsure exactly which parts were essential.
Leave that until final exhaustion of possibility.
And finally, I use 'ee' (apt-get install ee) editor, I like to minimise
Debian pains...
Any comments appreciated, and apologies for any typo's or duff 
info.
Hope this gets some other newbie Debian v3 users out of a jam and
avoid
that trip to get the ps2 mouse.
I see the greatness of Debian's approach - but 'they' do leave us first
timers to find out
by trial and error sometimes?
Paul Hailey





Re: Woody serial mouse problems solved in BIOS?

2004-09-04 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 10:36:09PM +0100, Paul Hailey wrote:
 snip
 If you haven't looked at the XFree86 log file in /var/log do so - it shows 
 if the mouse bits are
 loading correctly or not at the end of it.
 
 In my case I think I may have to hold a mouse button down as the 'gdm' 
 system starts up,
 it hangs until the mouse is moved about - but at least an 'Auto' mouse 
 protocol setting on the XFree86
 setup ( dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 ) works my ancient serial mouse,
 
 -- but note,
 it looks like when that dpkg prog.  is run, it puts in an assumed symlink 
 setting (e.g to ttyS0) as
 something like '/dev/input/mice'  which is not much use, as everyone's 
 advising us to
 use a symlink  '/dev/mouse' ...  so either change the XF86Config-4 config 
 file (in /etc/X11)
 manually (which means not using the dpkg-reconfigure mode again) -- or make
 the symlink by command, to match the XF86Config-4 entry.
 
 I'm not that good at symlink but the command is
 ln -s /dev/ttyS0 /dev/mouse  (for /dev/mouse  on ==Com1 !)
 
 Would be useful if someone can tell me how to 'undo' a symlink!

A symlink is a just special kind of file. It contains a file name, and
(almost) any attempt to access it goes to the target.

~ %% ln -s does-not-exist foosym
~ %% ls -l foosym
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   14 Sep  4  2004 foosym - does-not-exist
~ %% cat foosym
cat: foosym: No such file or directory
~ %% ed textfile
textfile: No such file or directory
a
foo
.
w
4
q
~ %% ln -s textfile anothername
~ %% cat anothername 
foo
~ %% rm anothername 
~ %% cat textfile 
foo
~ %% ln -s textfile anothername
~ %% rm textfile 
~ %% cat anothername 
cat: anothername: No such file or directory
~ %% rm anothername 

 The only other thing I messed around with was the 3 (or so) mouse
 modules - if that's what they are - in the kernel config file settings list
 (in /boot) ... but I'm unsure exactly which parts were essential.
 Leave that until final exhaustion of possibility.
/boot/config-VERSION? Editing that file shouldn't make a difference
(and shouldn't be done). To change modules edit /etc/modules.

 And finally, I use 'ee' (apt-get install ee) editor, I like to minimise 
 Debian pains...
Don't say that!  You might start a holy war!

 Any comments appreciated, and apologies for any typo's or duff info.
 Hope this gets some other newbie Debian v3 users out of a jam and avoid
 that trip to get the ps2 mouse.
What's wrong with the PS/2 mouse? I had one and it worked out of the
box with Woody. (I still use it, I just removed the USB-PS/2
converter.)

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Re: Re: Woody serial mouse problems solved in BIOS?

2004-09-04 Thread Paul Hailey
Hi Stefan
Well I don't profess to know much about Linux
And, no-one's yet told me how to undo a symlink...
Its been a right
battle to find out how to alter things 'post-install', learned a lot but
really, 3 weeks to get an OS running off and on ?  I'm a novice at reading 
things up
in files hidden inside weird hda drives.  Why don't they install the help files
inside the apache web directory? (or do they  :) at least I could sit at my
windows2000 (careful!)  screen and look at them remotely... after I got the 
network card
going after another  battle... just add a '0' option to the 3C905 module 
install
and it actually works

My board's an AT (not ATX as stated) and doesn't have a ps2
socket...  after all, people are running Linux on older machines often..
That was the point of mentioning the post's subject... everyone using PS2,
as you say out of the box...  but not always so with serial mouseses
Yes I used vi  (is it) ...  years ago
If I want to cut a small branch, I use a small saw...
ee does the job I need to do.  Holy wars ...   They told me vi was
the only editor for Unix, we had no choice...  I do now...
As I said...  or meant to... it's up to newbies to shout a little because
otherwise these os's will always be left 'user-unfriendly enough' to prevent
people getting them running.  Someone could take an honest look at
the newbies probs and write a useful web support package?
Why obscure simple processes within pages of over technical setup
procedures...  Debian wants to be popular ...
btw my career was design electronics, and if I couldn't explain something
in simple terms it usually meant I didn't understand it properly myself!
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Re: serial mouse under debian/sarge, 2.6.4

2004-04-12 Thread Joris Huizer
Thank you for your replies

I'll first try to get an USB hub, and if that is a problem, I'll try the 
solutions posted on the serial mouse!

Are there things I coould/should check for a USB hub? Do I need special 
modules and/or drivers?

Thanks for all the answers I got so far,

Joris

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serial mouse under debian/sarge, 2.6.4

2004-04-09 Thread huize858
Hello,

I have this problem: for a new printer I'm about to buy, I need to free
the usb plug; So I now have to make my debian box use a serial mouse.

I attached the configuration files knoppix built; I tried putting those
into my real /etc/X11 directory but still the mouse won't work. In
knoppix the 

Can anybody tell me how to configure X so it'll use the mouse? I can't
even find how to start the configuring program the base-config gave me
when I installed for the first time... :-(
I have little experience with X configuration and none with serial mice
so... I need a hand here
If you need more configuration files please tell me which ones?

Thanks for your help,

Joris


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Re: serial mouse under debian/sarge, 2.6.4

2004-04-09 Thread Katipo
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Hello,

I have this problem: for a new printer I'm about to buy, I need to free
the usb plug; So I now have to make my debian box use a serial mouse.
I attached the configuration files knoppix built; I tried putting those
into my real /etc/X11 directory but still the mouse won't work. In
knoppix the 

Can anybody tell me how to configure X so it'll use the mouse? I can't
even find how to start the configuring program the base-config gave me
when I installed for the first time... :-(
I have little experience with X configuration and none with serial mice
so... I need a hand here
If you need more configuration files please tell me which ones?
Thanks for your help,

Joris
 

Hello again Joris,

I really don't know what the situation is with Knoppix,
but I understand that it is based largely on Sarge, so this may work for 
you.
It's how I have mine configured.
You will have to install the gpm package first,
and that should help you through the configuration procedure in the console.

Regards,

David.

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Re: serial mouse under debian/sarge, 2.6.4

2004-04-09 Thread Katipo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

I have this problem: for a new printer I'm about to buy, I need to free
the usb plug; So I now have to make my debian box use a serial mouse.
I attached the configuration files knoppix built; I tried putting those
into my real /etc/X11 directory but still the mouse won't work. In
knoppix the 

Can anybody tell me how to configure X so it'll use the mouse? I can't
even find how to start the configuring program the base-config gave me
when I installed for the first time... :-(
I have little experience with X configuration and none with serial mice
so... I need a hand here
If you need more configuration files please tell me which ones?
Thanks for your help,

Joris
 

Perhaps if I supply the link, as well, it will be of even further 
assistance.

http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apbs01.html#id2461343

Regards,

David.

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Re: serial mouse under debian/sarge, 2.6.4

2004-04-09 Thread stderr

On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 I have this problem: for a new printer I'm about to buy, I need to free
 the usb plug; So I now have to make my debian box use a serial mouse.

 I attached the configuration files knoppix built; I tried putting those
 into my real /etc/X11 directory but still the mouse won't work. In
 knoppix the

 Can anybody tell me how to configure X so it'll use the mouse? I can't
 even find how to start the configuring program the base-config gave me
 when I installed for the first time... :-(
 I have little experience with X configuration and none with serial mice
 so... I need a hand here
 If you need more configuration files please tell me which ones?


my InputDevice Section looks like this,
Section InputDevice
 Identifier  Configured Mouse
 Driver  mouse
 Option  CorePointer
 Option  Device /dev/ttyS0
 Option  Protocol   Microsoft
 Option  Emulate3Buttonstrue
 Option  ZAxisMapping   4 5

also when you compile the kernel,
make sure Devic Driver - Input device support - Serial mouse
is enabled, or at least a module.
and Device Driver - Character devices - Serial Drivers -
8250/16550 and compatible serial support was enable and
it worked for me.

find out if it has already been enabled by your current
kernel in your /boot/config

hth

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serial mouse

2002-02-04 Thread Jason Majors
I've installed Debian on a friend's ancient machine that has a serial mouse
connection. X fails to load because it can't find the mouse. If the serial
mouse is connected to the first serial port, what device do I need to link
to /dev/mouse?

Thanks,
Jason



Re: serial mouse

2002-02-04 Thread Sergei Lodyagin

Hello Jason.

Try /dev/ttyS0.

Jason Majors wrote:


I've installed Debian on a friend's ancient machine that has a serial mouse
connection. X fails to load because it can't find the mouse. If the serial
mouse is connected to the first serial port, what device do I need to link
to /dev/mouse?

Thanks,
Jason







Re: serial mouse

2002-02-04 Thread ben
On Sunday 03 February 2002 11:18 pm, Jason Majors wrote:
 I've installed Debian on a friend's ancient machine that has a serial mouse
 connection. X fails to load because it can't find the mouse. If the serial
 mouse is connected to the first serial port, what device do I need to link
 to /dev/mouse?

 Thanks,
 Jason

generally, you need either /dev/ttyS0 or /dev/ttyS1. if the machine has an 
internal modem, it might be hogging /dev/ttyS2, which would disable the use 
of /dev/ttyS0. try an ls -al on the first four /dev/tty(#) to see if any 
other devices have claimed those ports. then try linking /dev/mouse to 
whichever of the first four is free, and retry the x config. also, take a 
look at /var/log/XFree86.0.log, which will give you a more verbose 
description of why x crashed.



Serial Mouse problem

2001-06-28 Thread Chris Everist
Hi,
I sent this before but my ISP has just gone broke so I did not receive
any replies.  So here goes again.
I have installed Debian twice now and it does not seem to recognise my
serial mouse.  It is a generic 3 button mouse with a Mouse
Systems/Microsoft switch on the bottom and I have tried both settings.
I have run xf86config from the promt and used XF86Setup from within
Gnome and have no luck.
I have tried all the possible device options I can think of
(/dev/ttyS0-4, /dev/mouse) but nothing happens.
I have checked in the /dev/ directory and cannot find a symbolic link to

the mouse driver /dev/mouse.
Do you have any idea what coule be causing this problem?
Regards
Chris Everist





Re: Serial Mouse problem

2001-06-28 Thread ray p
If form console you do cat /dev/mouse and move the mouse what happens? If you 
do not get random noise that is not your mouse device. Also in your XF86Config 
file what does it have for the protocol? Also do you have GPM running and what 
branch of Debian are you using?

On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 08:35:53AM +1000, Chris Everist wrote:
 Hi,
 I sent this before but my ISP has just gone broke so I did not receive
 any replies.  So here goes again.
 I have installed Debian twice now and it does not seem to recognise my
 serial mouse.  It is a generic 3 button mouse with a Mouse
 Systems/Microsoft switch on the bottom and I have tried both settings.
 I have run xf86config from the promt and used XF86Setup from within
 Gnome and have no luck.
 I have tried all the possible device options I can think of
 (/dev/ttyS0-4, /dev/mouse) but nothing happens.
 I have checked in the /dev/ directory and cannot find a symbolic link to
 
 the mouse driver /dev/mouse.
 Do you have any idea what coule be causing this problem?
 Regards
 Chris Everist
 
 
 
 
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Re: Serial Mouse problem

2001-06-27 Thread Vineet Kumar
I think it could use some clarification that one has suggested
installing gpm and someone else has stated that gpm can cause
problems. I hope I can make things clearer without just adding to the
noise...

(Start by reading Joost's message regarding mouse hardware.)

When you say your mouse isn't working, I assume you mean it's not
working under X. Have you tried it on the console? If you have gpm
installed and configured correctly, you should see a mouse cursor when
you move the mouse on the console, and should be able to use your
mouse to copy and paste text there.

I'll try to describe what I've found to be the best mouse
setup, one that works fine on the console and in X.

First, I find it's altogether the least amount of headache if you
ensure that there is no /dev/mouse symlink on your system. Figure out
what port your mouse is plugged into by reading Joost's message and
use that explicitly in your gpm config. You can set this up by using
the gpmconfig program.

Along the way, it will ask for a protocol to use for the repeater.
What this does is it creates a virtual mouse by echoing data in the
mouse protocol of your choice into /dev/gpmdata.

You should then configure X to use /dev/gpmdata as its device, and
tell it to use the protocol you chose as the gpm repeat protocol. I
believe gpm defaults to repeat in the ms3 protocol, which can be
understood by X if you use Option Protocol Microsoft in your
/etc/X11/XF86Config. Alternatively, you can specify any protocol you
like in your gpm repeater config, as long as you tell X to use the
same protocol. As someone else suggested, you can tell gpm to repeat
as type 'raw' in which case you should configure X to use the actual
protocol that your mouse is speaking. From the sound of things, it
speaks at least 2 different protocols. It's easiest to figure it out
with gpm, and then mirror that in XF86Config.

I realize this isn't an in-depth walkthrough, but I hope it will help
you understand how the two systems can share the mouse and how to
configure them. If you have further questions, please don't hesitate
to ask.

Vineet


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Re: Serial Mouse problem

2001-06-25 Thread Frank Zimmermann

Chris Everist wrote:


Hi,
I have installed Debian twice now and it does not seem to recognise my
serial mouse.  It is a generic 3 button mouse with a Mouse
Systems/Microsoft switch on the bottom and I have tried both settings.
I have run xf86config from the promt and used XF86Setup from within
Gnome and have no luck.
I have tried all the possible device options I can think of
(/dev/ttyS0-4, /dev/mouse) but nothing happens.
I have checked in the /dev/ directory and cannot find a symbolic link to
the mouse driver /dev/mouse.
Do you have any idea what coule be causing this problem?
Regards
Chris Everist






Hi Chris,
you probably have gpm running wich sometimes causes trouble with the 
mouse under X. If gpm is running change the device to /dev/gpmdata 
and the mousetype to raw in your XF86Config file. that should do then,


Frank



Re: Serial Mouse problem

2001-06-24 Thread Joost Kooij
On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 12:05:53PM +1000, Chris Everist wrote:
 I have tried all the possible device options I can think of
 (/dev/ttyS0-4, /dev/mouse) but nothing happens.

Those are not device options, they're symbolic devices managed by
the kernel and that correspond to some physical peripheral.

You should try to find out to what plug your mouse connects.  If
it is a small round one, that corresponds to /dev/psaux.  If it is
a classic small rs232 style connector, it is a common serial port 
that corresponds to /dev/ttyS0 or /dev/ttyS1.

 I have checked in the /dev/ directory and cannot find a symbolic link to
 the mouse driver /dev/mouse.

It is not needed for the system.  Just for humans, so they get less 
confused.  Well, you can see how well that works out already... :-P

 Do you have any idea what coule be causing this problem?

You are not setting the right wire protocol for your mouse.
Mice come in different tongues.  Some even speak with two tongues,
depending on which port it hangs off of.

Check out the XF86Config or XF86Config-4 manpage and some of the
gpm documentation for more information about mouse protocols.

Cheers,


Joost



Serial Mouse problem

2001-06-23 Thread Chris Everist
Hi,
I have installed Debian twice now and it does not seem to recognise my
serial mouse.  It is a generic 3 button mouse with a Mouse
Systems/Microsoft switch on the bottom and I have tried both settings.
I have run xf86config from the promt and used XF86Setup from within
Gnome and have no luck.
I have tried all the possible device options I can think of
(/dev/ttyS0-4, /dev/mouse) but nothing happens.
I have checked in the /dev/ directory and cannot find a symbolic link to
the mouse driver /dev/mouse.
Do you have any idea what coule be causing this problem?
Regards
Chris Everist



Re: Serial Mouse problem

2001-06-23 Thread Mike Egglestone
Hi...

Have you tried installing gpm?
I think its gpm..:)

You can run that to configure your mouse

Mike
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Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 7:05 PM
Subject: Serial Mouse problem


 Hi,
 I have installed Debian twice now and it does not seem to recognise my
 serial mouse.  It is a generic 3 button mouse with a Mouse
 Systems/Microsoft switch on the bottom and I have tried both settings.
 I have run xf86config from the promt and used XF86Setup from within
 Gnome and have no luck.
 I have tried all the possible device options I can think of
 (/dev/ttyS0-4, /dev/mouse) but nothing happens.
 I have checked in the /dev/ directory and cannot find a symbolic link to
 the mouse driver /dev/mouse.
 Do you have any idea what coule be causing this problem?
 Regards
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Re: Serial Mouse problem

2001-06-23 Thread W. Paul Mills

There is no need for /dev/mouse to exist. Are you shure you are
connected to a serial port? Another common location is the PS2
mouse port -- usually located next to the microphone connector.
IF on hte PS2 port it would be /dev/psaux.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Everist) writes:

 Hi,
 I have installed Debian twice now and it does not seem to recognise my
 serial mouse.  It is a generic 3 button mouse with a Mouse
 Systems/Microsoft switch on the bottom and I have tried both settings.
 I have run xf86config from the promt and used XF86Setup from within
 Gnome and have no luck.
 I have tried all the possible device options I can think of
 (/dev/ttyS0-4, /dev/mouse) but nothing happens.
 I have checked in the /dev/ directory and cannot find a symbolic link to
 the mouse driver /dev/mouse.
 Do you have any idea what coule be causing this problem?
 Regards
 Chris Everist


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Serial mouse detection/configuration problems

2001-06-16 Thread Karsten M. Self
I'm helping a friend with a Debian install / box cannibalization
project.  Problem right now is the mouse.  It's worked intermittently,
but isn't responding right now.  I'm suspecting the PS/2 - Serial
converter itself is bad.

I've tried reading raw serial devices (cat /dev/ttyS[0123]), but no data
are coming through at the moment.  Tried the usual suspects:

  - Plug mouse into laptop PS/2 connection -- success.
  - Plug mouse + converter into laptop serial port while live -- no joy.
But I've never used the onboard serial and don't know if it's
configured properly or not.
  - Plug mouse + converter into second desktop system serial port and
booted fresh -- no joy.  Again, not sure if the box is configured
properly.  It was booted with the Debian 2.2r3 boot media, disk 1.

I would like to think there's something in the serial port configuration
that I'm missing, but the evidence tends to point to the PS/2=Serial
converter.  Anyone know if those things are known to go bad -- should
just be some straight-through wiring, no?

TIA.

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Re: Trackpoint and serial mouse simultaneously

2001-02-17 Thread Stefan Baums
Sorry to answer my own question, but a bit of research revealed that
while Xfree86 3.3 knows only one pointer, gpm can manage multiple ones
for it.  My /etc/gpm.conf now has:

   device=/dev/psaux
   type=ps2
   append=-M -t mman -m /dev/ttyS0

and the pointer section in /etc/X11/XF86Config is:

   Section Pointer
   ProtocolMouseSystems
   Device  /dev/gpmdata
   Emulate3Buttons
   EndSection

Cheers,
Stefan



Trackpoint and serial mouse simultaneously

2001-02-17 Thread Stefan Baums
Dear list,

I'm running an HP Omnibook 5500 laptop here, and would like to use,
under X, the internal TrackPoint pointing device and an external
serial mouse at the same time (i. e., without restarting X to make the
switch).

More generally, is it possible to have more than one Pointer device
for the same X session under XFree86 3.3?  (As long as 4.0 is in
unstable I prefer not to switch.)

Thanks,
Stefan



Device name for serial mouse?

2000-11-19 Thread Stan Brown
OK, I give up on the PS/2 mouse :-(

I need to have this machine working by Monday, and it has become 
aparent that I
am notging to get the PS/2 mouse working by then.

So, I have the serial mouse (actually one of those combo serial/PS-2 
things0
that I used on my last Debian box (which did not have a PS/3 port).
Unfortuantely i can't rember the device name I used for this thing. it 
will be
either com1 or com2. 

S what device name should I feed to gpmconfig?

Thanks.

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Re: Device name for serial mouse?

2000-11-19 Thread Colin Watson
Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   So, I have the serial mouse (actually one of those combo
   serial/PS-2 things0 that I used on my last Debian box (which did
   not have a PS/3 port).
   Unfortuantely i can't rember the device name I used for this
   thing. it will be either com1 or com2. 

DOS/Windows COM1 corresponds to /dev/ttyS0; COM2 corresponds to
/dev/ttyS1. You could try them both.

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Re: Device name for serial mouse?

2000-11-19 Thread Tilton
For gpmconfig;

Device -   /dev/psaux
mouse type - ps2

Regards, T. Tilton


Stan Brown wrote:
 
 OK, I give up on the PS/2 mouse :-(
 
 I need to have this machine working by Monday, and it has become 
 aparent that I
 am notging to get the PS/2 mouse working by then.
 
 So, I have the serial mouse (actually one of those combo serial/PS-2 
 things0
 that I used on my last Debian box (which did not have a PS/3 port).
 Unfortuantely i can't rember the device name I used for this thing. 
 it will be
 either com1 or com2.
 
 S what device name should I feed to gpmconfig?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: Device name for serial mouse?

2000-11-19 Thread Tilton
Ooops!

I didn't answer the question you asked.  Sorry!

COM1: = /dev/ttyS0
COM2: = /dev/ttyS1
^
^--- Note capital 'S' used here


as for the device type for gpm I don't know which mouse
you are using, (actually one of those combo serial/PS-2 things0 
so I can't suggest a type selection in gpmconfig for you.

Good luck on getting this working before Monday.

T. Tilton


Tilton wrote:
 
 For gpmconfig;
 
 Device -   /dev/psaux
 mouse type - ps2
 
 Regards, T. Tilton
 
 Stan Brown wrote:
 
  OK, I give up on the PS/2 mouse :-(
 
  I need to have this machine working by Monday, and it has become 
  aparent that I
  am notging to get the PS/2 mouse working by then.
 
  So, I have the serial mouse (actually one of those combo 
  serial/PS-2 things0
  that I used on my last Debian box (which did not have a PS/3 port).
  Unfortuantely i can't rember the device name I used for this thing. 
  it will be
  either com1 or com2.
 
  S what device name should I feed to gpmconfig?
 
  Thanks.
 
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Re: Device name for serial mouse?

2000-11-19 Thread Tilton
Stan Brown wrote:
 
 On Sun Nov 19 13:26:29 2000 Tilton wrote...
 
 Ooops!
 
 I didn't answer the question you asked.  Sorry!
 
 COM1: = /dev/ttyS0
 COM2: = /dev/ttyS1
 ^
 ^--- Note capital 'S' used here
 
 
 as for the device type for gpm I don't know which mouse
 you are using, (actually one of those combo serial/PS-2 things) 
 so I can't suggest a type selection in gpmconfig for you.
 
 Good luck on getting this working before Monday.
 
 T. Tilton
 
 
 Thanks, I still have no idea wat type is is. I't wahtever the default 
 for gpm
 is (which unfortunately seems to be undocumented :-()
 
 But, the good news is. I did get something working. I could not get 
 gpm to send
 out a PS/2 protocol on it's repeater output, so I took what it liked 
 there
 ms3 and chnged XF86Config to expect ?microsoft which seems to work.
 
 Thanks for the help.
 

Stan,

While in gpmconfig if you enter help at the type prompt it will list
all the available mouse protocols gpm supports.  At the bottom of the
list is a line that gives the default for gpm on i386 systems (in this
case
it is - ps2).

You could also look in the /etc/gpm.conf file before doing any
configuration
and you will see what the intial/default value is.


Also, and I don't remember the specifics, you should start and stop both
gpm and X after you make a config change in gpm.  I don't remember if
you
start gpm then X or vice versa (I would say this is the correct order;
gpm
then X.)

One other thing; I don't use the /dev/gpm* device.  I have a link from
/dev/mouse to /dev/psaux or to /dev/ttyS1 (I have more than one system
with different mice on them.)  I seem to remember that I have had
problems
using the /dev/gpm* device.  Again, sorry for not being more specific
here
but linking directly to the device port has always worked solidly for
me.

Here is the help listing from gpmconfig that I did;

Regards, T. Tilton
*

bash# gpmconfig
Configuring gpm (mouse event server):

Current configuration: -m /dev/mouse -t mman -Rms3 -l
a-zA-Z0-9_.:~/\300-\326\330-\366\370-\377
Device: /dev/mouse
Type: mman
Repeat_Type: ms3
Append: -l a-zA-Z0-9_.:~/\300-\326\330-\366\370-\377
Do you want to change anything (Y/n)? 
Where is your mouse [/dev/mouse]? 


What type is your mouse (or help) [mman]? 
 help

gpm-Linux 1.17.8, $Date: 1999/01/03 21:02:51 $
Available mouse types are:

name (synonym)   description

mman (Mouseman)- The MouseMan protocol used by new Logitech mice.
ms - For Microsoft mice (2 or 3 buttons). Some old 2
button mice
 send some spurious packets, which can be
misunderstood as
 middle-button events. If this is happens to you,
use the
 'bare' mouse type.
ms+- Like 'ms', but allows dragging with the middle
button.
ms+lr  - 'ms+', but you can reset m by pressing lr (see man
page).
bare (Microsoft)   - For some 2 button Microsoft mice. Same as 'ms'
except that
 gpm will not attempt to simulate a third button.
msc (MouseSystems) - For most 3 button serial mice.
sun- For Sparc mice.
mm (MMSeries)  - For MM series mice.
logi (Logitech)- For old serial Logitech mice.
bm (BusMouse)  - For some busmice, including Microsoft and Logitech
busmice.
ps2 (PS/2) - For most busmice connected to a PS/2 port (round
with 6 met
al
 pins).
ncr- For pointing pens found on some laptops.
wacom  - For Wacom tablets.
genitizer  - For Genitizer tablets. They are used in relative
mode.
logim  - For turning on the MouseSystems compatible mode (3
buttons)
 of some Logitech mice.
pnp- For the new 'plug and play' mice produced by
Microsoft.
 Try it if '-t ms' does not work.
imps2  - For the Microsoft IntelliMouse on a PS/2 port
(round
 connector with 6 pins), 3 buttons (wheel is
repeated).
ms3- For the Microsoft IntelliMouse (serial), 3 buttons
(wheel i
s repeated).
netmouse   - For the Genius NetMouse. This one has two normal
buttons 
plus
 'up'/'down' buttons.
cal- For a Calcomp UltraSlate.
calr   - For a Calcomp UltraSlate in relative mode.
twid   - For the Twidddler keyboard.
syn (synaptics)- For the Synaptics serial TouchPad.
synps2 (synaptics_ps2) - For the Synaptics PS/2 TouchPad.
brw- For the Fellowes Browser - 4 buttons (and a wheel)
(dual pr
otocol?).
js (Joystick)  - For Joystick mouse emulation.
summa  - For a Summa/Genius tablet in absolute mode
(906,1212B,EasyP
ainter...).
mtouch - For MicroTouch touch-screens (only button-1 events
right no
w).
acecad - For Acecad 

Re: Device name for serial mouse?

2000-11-19 Thread Randy Edwards
 S what device name should I feed to gpmconfig?

   Typically you'll use /dev/ttyS0 (note the capital 'S') for COM1, and
/dev/ttyS1 for COM2.

   If you don't need support for ttys, you don't really have to use gpm --
you could just edit the XF86Config file directly.  There's an article on
http://www.debianhelp.org about this very topic.

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Re: serial mouse not working

2000-09-23 Thread Rino Mardo
On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 08:51:22PM +0200 or thereabouts, Felix Natter wrote:
 which settings ? I tried changing baud-rate, and I tried (almost)
 all protocols. Very rarely the mouse-pointer moves (jumps) to one corner.
 /dev/mouse is a symlink to /dev/ttyS0, and both gpm and X use it.
 

are you sure you're using gpm and not gpmdata?  check your /etc/rc2.d scripts

don't run gpm and see if it helps.  if it does, your gpm is the problem.

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Re: serial mouse not working

2000-09-22 Thread Felix Natter
J.T. Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 do you get a response from the rodent in XF86Setup? 
 You probably have the wrong settings in your X configuration file.
 
  -Original Message-
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  Of Felix Natter
  Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 09:21
  To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
  Subject: serial mouse not working
  
  
  hi,
  
  I have a serial MS-mouse which runs great with gpm, but I do not get any
  reaction under xfree86 3.3.6 (configured using XF86Setup).

which settings ? I tried changing baud-rate, and I tried (almost)
all protocols. Very rarely the mouse-pointer moves (jumps) to one corner.
/dev/mouse is a symlink to /dev/ttyS0, and both gpm and X use it.

thanks,

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serial mouse not working

2000-09-19 Thread Felix Natter
hi,

I have a serial MS-mouse which runs great with gpm, but I do not get any
reaction under xfree86 3.3.6 (configured using XF86Setup).

thanks,

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Re: serial mouse not working

2000-09-19 Thread W. Paul Mills

Post your /etc/gpm.conf file and the Pointer section of
/etc/X11/XF86Config. Then perhaps someone can help identify
your problem.


Felix Natter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: hi,

: I have a serial MS-mouse which runs great with gpm, but I do not get any
: reaction under xfree86 3.3.6 (configured using XF86Setup).

: thanks,

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Serial mouse

2000-08-07 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
I got a basic potato running in a pentium 75, with a serial mouse. But
it does not seem to work. I thought it would work right away, after
enabling serial ports as module in the kernel, but it doesn't show to be
alive. I have another potato running in a pentium II 400, with a ps-2
mouse, which works with in both console and X nicely. Now, I just have
the basic base from boot floppies running in the P-75, because I have a
mirror in the other (P-400), from which I plan to finish the
installation after connecting it to the P-400. Am I missing something,
or the serial 3-b mpuse needs something as gpm to work?
Thanks,
Antonio.




RE: serial mouse

2000-06-16 Thread Marvin Stodolsky
1) First make sure your are describing the mouse port as:
  /dev/ttyS0
NOT   /ttys0

2) If you have installed  gpm-frozenVer.deb, this update
sets up to new mouse devices: /dev/gpmdata and /dev/gpmctl
and more over,with WARNING sets
   /dev/mouse - /dev/gpmdata
(a Bug report has been filed)
Thus if you enter  /dev/mouse in XF86Config, it will try use
/dev/gpmdata which might not suffice.  It didn't on my
laptop with ps2 mouse (/dev/psaux)
Changing from /dev/mouse to /dev/psaux in XF86Config solved
the X problem for me.

MarvS


Hey there again. 
I'm having problems setting up x with this serial mouse.

It's an MS serial mouse. I specified MS mouse on ttys0.
That's 
serial A right? I don't think I'm losing my mind. There
isn't a map in 
fstab that I'm supposed to specify is there?



serial mouse

2000-06-14 Thread ddsmith
Hey there again. 
I'm having problems setting up x with this serial mouse.

It's an MS serial mouse. I specified MS mouse on ttys0. That's 
serial A right? I don't think I'm losing my mind. There isn't a map in 
fstab that I'm supposed to specify is there? 

Thanks again



Re: serial mouse

2000-06-14 Thread Randy Edwards
 I'm having problems setting up x with this serial mouse.

   For an MS Mouse, a typical setup in /etc/X11/XF86Config would be:

Section Pointer
ProtocolMicrosoft 
Device  /dev/mouse
EndSection

   Of course, /dev/mouse is simply a symbolic link to /dev/ttyS0 (for COM1;
or linking to which ever serial port your mouse is on).

 It's an MS serial mouse. I specified MS mouse on ttys0. That's
 serial A right?

   What's serial A?  COM1?

   I think your big problem is a typo: there is no /dev/ttys0 -- it's
/dev/ttyS0 with a capital S.

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Re: serial mouse not working

2000-04-27 Thread Rafael Caetano dos Santos
Alexander Poslavsky writes:
  Is it possible to be a motherboard problem? Mine is a SiS (I forgot the
  model), with all those PCI, PnP, onboard adapters (sigh).  But I guess
  this bears no problem with respect to serial ports.  BTW, I've got a
  (real) modem running without problems under /dev/ttyS1.
 
 Nah, it's probably not the board, I've got one myself and they're crummy
 but work. And since it is both a problem in X and with gpm, it might be
 you don't have a link between /dev/modem and /dev/ttyS0. Both X and gpm
 use /dev/modem out of the box. 

 root:~$ ln -s /dev/ttyS0 /dev/mouse

No, /dev/mouse is already a symlink to /dev/ttyS0.  I've already deleted
/dev/mouse and created it again.

bye 
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serial mouse not working

2000-04-26 Thread Rafael Caetano dos Santos

Hello,

My brandless, 3-button serial mouse won't work under Linux, neither in the
console nor under X.  It works OK under Windows. I've been a Linux user
for about 3 years and I never had or heard of this kind of problem.  I
guess it should be a stupid mistake or something, but I can't see what is
it.

Is it possible to be a motherboard problem? Mine is a SiS (I forgot the
model), with all those PCI, PnP, onboard adapters (sigh).  But I guess
this bears no problem with respect to serial ports.  BTW, I've got a
(real) modem running without problems under /dev/ttyS1.

At bootup, the kernel says:

Serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A

So it shouldn't be a IRQ conflict.
Also at bootup, setserial reports:

Configuring serial ports...done.
/dev/ttyS0 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
/dev/ttyS1 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A

It seems normal to me. And gpm runs happily, as if nothing were wrong, but
the mouse cursor never appears.

Neither does X 3.3.2.3 report any errors.  The mouse cursor is displayed
but doesn't move. When I kill X, it reports:

waiting for X server to shut down
Fatal server error:
Unable to set status of mouse fd (Interrupted system call)

Any suggestions

TIA,

bye 
Rafael Caetano [EMAIL PROTECTED]


RE: serial mouse not working

2000-04-26 Thread Bryan Scaringe
I suspect this to be a gpm issue.  Have you tyied changint the protocol?
Some nameless/brandless 3-button mice need to use type msc, some need type ms.

Bryan

On 26-Apr-2000 Rafael Caetano dos Santos wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 My brandless, 3-button serial mouse won't work under Linux, neither in the
 console nor under X.  It works OK under Windows. I've been a Linux user
 for about 3 years and I never had or heard of this kind of problem.  I
 guess it should be a stupid mistake or something, but I can't see what is
 it.
 
 Is it possible to be a motherboard problem? Mine is a SiS (I forgot the
 model), with all those PCI, PnP, onboard adapters (sigh).  But I guess
 this bears no problem with respect to serial ports.  BTW, I've got a
 (real) modem running without problems under /dev/ttyS1.
 
 At bootup, the kernel says:
 
 Serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
 ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
 ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
 
 So it shouldn't be a IRQ conflict.
 Also at bootup, setserial reports:
 
 Configuring serial ports...done.
 /dev/ttyS0 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
 /dev/ttyS1 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
 
 It seems normal to me. And gpm runs happily, as if nothing were wrong, but
 the mouse cursor never appears.
 
 Neither does X 3.3.2.3 report any errors.  The mouse cursor is displayed
 but doesn't move. When I kill X, it reports:
 
 waiting for X server to shut down
 Fatal server error:
 Unable to set status of mouse fd (Interrupted system call)
 
 Any suggestions
 
 TIA,
 
 bye 
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RE: serial mouse not working

2000-04-26 Thread Steven Satelle
i found with my mouse (the first timei ever had probs) that after i
reconfigured it i had to make a new xf86config file, util i did the mouse
wouldnt work

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From: Rafael Caetano dos Santos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 April 2000 04:55
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: serial mouse not working



Hello,

My brandless, 3-button serial mouse won't work under Linux, neither in the
console nor under X.  It works OK under Windows. I've been a Linux user
for about 3 years and I never had or heard of this kind of problem.  I
guess it should be a stupid mistake or something, but I can't see what is
it.

Is it possible to be a motherboard problem? Mine is a SiS (I forgot the
model), with all those PCI, PnP, onboard adapters (sigh).  But I guess
this bears no problem with respect to serial ports.  BTW, I've got a
(real) modem running without problems under /dev/ttyS1.

At bootup, the kernel says:

Serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A

So it shouldn't be a IRQ conflict.
Also at bootup, setserial reports:

Configuring serial ports...done.
/dev/ttyS0 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
/dev/ttyS1 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A

It seems normal to me. And gpm runs happily, as if nothing were wrong, but
the mouse cursor never appears.

Neither does X 3.3.2.3 report any errors.  The mouse cursor is displayed
but doesn't move. When I kill X, it reports:

waiting for X server to shut down
Fatal server error:
Unable to set status of mouse fd (Interrupted system call)

Any suggestions

TIA,

bye
Rafael Caetano [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: serial mouse not working

2000-04-26 Thread Alexander Poslavsky
Hi Rafael!

On Wed, 26 Apr 2000, Rafael Caetano dos Santos wrote:

 Is it possible to be a motherboard problem? Mine is a SiS (I forgot the
 model), with all those PCI, PnP, onboard adapters (sigh).  But I guess
 this bears no problem with respect to serial ports.  BTW, I've got a
 (real) modem running without problems under /dev/ttyS1.

Nah, it's probably not the board, I've got one myself and they're crummy but 
work. And since it is both a problem in X and with gpm, it might be you don't 
have a link between /dev/modem and /dev/ttyS0. Both X and gpm use /dev/modem 
out of the box.

root:~$ ln -s /dev/ttyS0 /dev/mouse

should do it.
'Luck, AP


PS/2 vs Serial mouse.

1999-06-05 Thread Fu-Dong Chiou
Hi,

I have a question regarding using a Logitech cordless MouseMan Pro PS/2 
mouse on a Compaq LTE 5200 notebook.  Although it is a PS/2 mouse, I can 
only hook it up to COM1 to get it to work in X.  If I plug it into PS/2 
port, the cursor won't move.  I assume it's because ttyS0 is taken by 
COM1 and not PS/2 port.  Can anyone tell me if this is the case, and 
which one is for PS/2, or will the mouse work as a PS/2 mouse?  I am 
using MouseMan as the mouse protocal.  Thanks!


Best wishes,
Chip 



Re: PS/2 vs Serial mouse.

1999-06-05 Thread Oliver Elphick
Fu-Dong Chiou wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I have a question regarding using a Logitech cordless MouseMan Pro PS/2 
  mouse on a Compaq LTE 5200 notebook.  Although it is a PS/2 mouse, I can 
  only hook it up to COM1 to get it to work in X.  If I plug it into PS/2 
  port, the cursor won't move.  I assume it's because ttyS0 is taken by 
  COM1 and not PS/2 port.  Can anyone tell me if this is the case, and 
  which one is for PS/2, or will the mouse work as a PS/2 mouse?  I am 
  using MouseMan as the mouse protocal.  Thanks!
 
The device to use for PS/2 is /dev/psaux, not ttyS0.

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Re: serial mouse problem

1999-01-03 Thread Kent West
On Sat, 2 Jan 1999, Vincent Murphy wrote:

 On Fri, 1 Jan 1999, Kent West wrote:
   in X, and when I returned this morning, the mouse was dead.  So, I killed
   the Xserver, restarted it.  Nothing.  Rebooted in Win95, which didn't pick
   up the mouse either.  When I rebooted into Linux, gpm started as normal,
  
  You might try switching your mouse to the other serial port and see if
  Win95 finds it, but when I've seen this behavior before, it was a dead
  mouse, so you may have to replace it.
 
 Well, I have a modem on ttyS1, which still works fine.  The mouse I
 brought to work, and it worked on another PC.  I tried a different mouse
 on my hamm box, which didn't work either, which points to a  serial port
 problem.
 
  Also, if your CMOS battery is weak/dead, your BIOS may have reverted to
  turning off your serial port, although that doesn't really make sense
  since the box was powered up when the mouse died. But maybe some glitch
  turned off the port in CMOS, so I'd at least check it out.
 
 i've looked in the BIOS setup, and everything /appears/ to be ok, and when
 the kernel boots up it gives me the usual message about the serail ports.

If you haven't already, try moving the mouse to the port the modem is on 
and move the modem off temporarily and see if you get your mouse back.

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Re: serial mouse problem

1999-01-02 Thread Vincent Murphy
On Fri, 1 Jan 1999, Kent West wrote:
  in X, and when I returned this morning, the mouse was dead.  So, I killed
  the Xserver, restarted it.  Nothing.  Rebooted in Win95, which didn't pick
  up the mouse either.  When I rebooted into Linux, gpm started as normal,
 
 You might try switching your mouse to the other serial port and see if
 Win95 finds it, but when I've seen this behavior before, it was a dead
 mouse, so you may have to replace it.

Well, I have a modem on ttyS1, which still works fine.  The mouse I
brought to work, and it worked on another PC.  I tried a different mouse
on my hamm box, which didn't work either, which points to a  serial port
problem.

 Also, if your CMOS battery is weak/dead, your BIOS may have reverted to
 turning off your serial port, although that doesn't really make sense
 since the box was powered up when the mouse died. But maybe some glitch
 turned off the port in CMOS, so I'd at least check it out.

i've looked in the BIOS setup, and everything /appears/ to be ok, and when
the kernel boots up it gives me the usual message about the serail ports.

thanks for the help.

regards,
vinny

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serial mouse problem

1999-01-01 Thread Vincent Murphy
I'm having a problem with my serial mouse.  I left my machine last night
in X, and when I returned this morning, the mouse was dead.  So, I killed
the Xserver, restarted it.  Nothing.  Rebooted in Win95, which didn't pick
up the mouse either.  When I rebooted into Linux, gpm started as normal,
but it doesn't work either.

I will provide diagnostics on request, as I don't know what to include at
this point.

regards,
vinny

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Re: serial mouse problem

1999-01-01 Thread Kent West
On Fri, 1 Jan 1999, Vincent Murphy wrote:

 I'm having a problem with my serial mouse.  I left my machine last night
 in X, and when I returned this morning, the mouse was dead.  So, I killed
 the Xserver, restarted it.  Nothing.  Rebooted in Win95, which didn't pick
 up the mouse either.  When I rebooted into Linux, gpm started as normal,
 but it doesn't work either.
 
 I will provide diagnostics on request, as I don't know what to include at
 this point.
 
 regards,
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You might try switching your mouse to the other serial port and see if
Win95 finds it, but when I've seen this behavior before, it was a dead
mouse, so you may have to replace it.

Also, if your CMOS battery is weak/dead, your BIOS may have reverted to
turning off your serial port, although that doesn't really make sense
since the box was powered up when the mouse died. But maybe some glitch
turned off the port in CMOS, so I'd at least check it out.

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Serial Mouse Install

1998-05-19 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Here is another installation question I didn't figure out during the
install.  I have a microsoft compatible serial mouse I would like to use
on my new linux system.  During the inital install, I did not see any
selections for serial mice.  I saw several options for ps/2, bus, and
other types of mice.  What do I need to do to install this mouse?

Thank you,

Doug Thistlethwaite


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Re: Serial Mouse Install

1998-05-19 Thread M.C. Vernon
Doug,

 Here is another installation question I didn't figure out during the
 install.  I have a microsoft compatible serial mouse I would like to use
 on my new linux system.  During the inital install, I did not see any
 selections for serial mice.  I saw several options for ps/2, bus, and
 other types of mice.  What do I need to do to install this mouse?

run XF86Setup. Select microsoft (and the usual other compatibles). If it
doesn't find /dev/mouse, then try /dev/ttyS0

HTH,

Matthew

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Serial Mouse

1997-11-27 Thread Simon Cooper
The mouse pointer jumps across the screen rather than a smooth
movement, I notice the problem most
when the pointer crosses window boundaries, the cursor changes and the
mouse pointer pauses at this point.
I am using the fvwm95 window manager, the problem is less evident when
using the openlook manager which
changes cursor less often.

I am using Debian 1.3

My Hardware is a Cyrix P200, and am using a serial mouse. My XF86Config
is setup to use type microsoft at port ttyS0.

I never had this problem on my P60 with a PS/2 mouse.

Has anyone else experienced this problem ?
Does anyone know the reason for the problem ?
Does anyone have a fix ?

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Re: gpm, X-Windows, MS Serial mouse

1997-03-24 Thread Curtis L. Daugaard
My thanks to several of you who responded to my post.  You all corrected
my mistake of thinking I could not specify the (preferred) /dev/ttySx in
both gpm and the X-server.

After correcting the config and rebooting I'm able to start and restart
X without killing gpm.

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gpm, X-Windows, MS Serial mouse

1997-03-23 Thread Curtis L. Daugaard
Before I changed to Debian, I could swear that under Slackware I was
able to use my MS serial mouse in X-Windows without first killing gpm. 
No more.  X refuses to start, complaining device in use.

I've tried everything I can think of based on the documentation for gpm,
including invoking the -M option and pointing the XF86Config file
to /dev/gpmdata.

My current serial settings: gpm set to /dev/cua2 and XF86Config to
/dev/ttyS2.

Can anybody tell me the secret?

Thanks. 


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Re: gpm, X-Windows, MS Serial mouse

1997-03-23 Thread Syrus Nemat-Nasser
On Sun, 23 Mar 1997, Curtis L. Daugaard wrote:

 Before I changed to Debian, I could swear that under Slackware I was
 able to use my MS serial mouse in X-Windows without first killing gpm. 
 No more.  X refuses to start, complaining device in use.
 
 I've tried everything I can think of based on the documentation for gpm,
 including invoking the -M option and pointing the XF86Config file
 to /dev/gpmdata.
 
 My current serial settings: gpm set to /dev/cua2 and XF86Config to
 /dev/ttyS2.
 
 Can anybody tell me the secret?

While I'm not 100% sure that this will end your problems, I am 100% sure 
that the first thing to try is pointing gpm to /dev/ttyS2.  The ttySX's 
handle some things (like device locking) differently than the 
/dev/cuaX's.  Certainly, you should use the same name for you mouse dev 
in both cases.

Syrus.

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Re: How can I get my 3 button serial mouse to use all 3 buttons

1997-01-20 Thread Seak, Teng-Fong
Stan Brown wrote:
 
 I just goat a new (cheap) 3 button mouse, proudly pluged it in, ent to
 /etc/X11/XF86config and commenred out the Emulate3Buttons.
 Ubfortunately the middle button still doesn'y wrk.
 
 What else should I try?
 

Shouldn't you reconfigure XFree86 by running the xfconfig programme
rather than changing the config file, XF86config, manually?
Don't forget this trivial advice: make a backup of XF86config.  If the
programme isn't xfconfig, it's something like that (sorry, I'm not in
front of my PC at this moment, so I forgot its name).

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How can I get my 3 button serial mouse to use all 3 buttons

1997-01-19 Thread Stan Brown
I just goat a new (cheap) 3 button mouse, proudly pluged it in, ent to
/etc/X11/XF86config and commenred out the Emulate3Buttons.
Ubfortunately the middle button still doesn'y wrk.

What else should I try?

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Re: How can I get my 3 button serial mouse to use all 3 buttons

1997-01-19 Thread Hamish Moffatt
   I just goat a new (cheap) 3 button mouse, proudly pluged it in, ent to
   /etc/X11/XF86config and commenred out the Emulate3Buttons.
   Ubfortunately the middle button still doesn'y wrk.
 
   What else should I try?

You're probably still using microsoft protocol to talk to the mouse;
this does support 3 buttons, but your mouse probably doesn't use it.
You should try the toggle rts/cts option; I believe you need also
to change your mouse type to mouse systems in that instance. The
rts/cts toggle will tell your mouse to change to Mouse Systems mode,
which is where it will support three buttons.
(Although it may do something different again.)



hamish


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Re: How can I get my 3 button serial mouse to use all three buttons

1997-01-19 Thread Tony Finch

Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just goat a new (cheap) 3 button mouse, proudly pluged it in, ent to
 /etc/X11/XF86config and commenred out the Emulate3Buttons.
 Ubfortunately the middle button still doesn'y wrk.

 What else should I try?

I recommend using the mouse-test program to diagnose mouse problems.
It's part of the gpm source distribution, but not the binary one so
you have to compile it yourself (but this isn't hard). It does a good
job of working out what protocol your mouse is talking without any
brain work.

Tony.




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