testing distribution kernel upgrade question when mixing signed and unsigned
note: DO NOT DO THIS ON A PRODUCTION SYSTEM. last week i was running an unsigned kernel and went to upgrade it to a signed version and it came back with asking me about removing a running kernel. in recent times that hasn't been and issue so i aborted the install and then downloaded the desired kernel and installed it by hand myself. in the process of doing that i screwed up a few links but was able to recover since i had a bootable stable partition. i eventually got the unsigned kernel version removed and replaced by the desired signed version. todays upgrade went smoothlyy as expected. the question is for someone who has a system they're willing to play with and see if you can replicated my problem or not as i'd like to file a bug if there is indeed a problem. songbird
Fwd: Links to download Testing distribution does not work
FYI -- Forwarded message -- From: Mohamed Irshad Date: Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:57 PM Subject: Fwd: Links to download Testing distribution does not work To: debian-user@lists.debian.org I am not quite sure which is is the correct place to post this. (I am new here). Below is my last post which never appeared anywhere in the system and got no replies (may be i posted to the wrong topic or something). In addition to what is described below, today I noticed that the Last modified date is now April 15th. But I received a permission denied error when I tried to download from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/jigdo-dvd/debian-testing-i386-DVD-1.jigdo. I am sending this in hope that this will be helpful. I am really sorry if I annoyed anyone. -- Forwarded message -- From: Mohamed Irshad Date: Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 1:16 AM Subject: Links to download Testing distribution does not work To: debian-bugs-d...@lists.debian.org Hi, I am being a debian Etch user who got an Internet connection recently wanted to download the testing version. I could not download the jigdo files from the official site. This is what happened 1. I went to http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ 2. Clicked Official jigdo files for the "testing" distribution -> DVD -> i386(which points to http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/lenny_di_rc2/i386/jigdo-dvd/ ) 3. Received the following error. >>>Not Found >>>The requested URL /cdimage/lenny_di_rc2/i386/jigdo-dvd/ was not found on >>>this server. 4. Strangely though I was unable to download the jigdo files, I could "Search Contents of .jigdo Files" and receive responses. I thought writing about this to the maintainers would be helpful. Hope it is useful. Note: I substituted the lenny_di_rc2 part with weekly-builds in the above url and tried http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/jigdo-dvd/. It worked. But the files listed were Last modified on 30-Mar-2009. I was a bit suspicious since the weekly builds can't be two weeks older, and chose not to download. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Fwd: Links to download Testing distribution does not work
On 2009-04-15 09:27 +0200, Mohamed Irshad wrote: > I am not quite sure which is is the correct place to post this. Below > is my last post which never appeared anywhere in the system and got no > replies (may be i posted to the wrong topic or something). Problems with the CD images should be reported as a bug against the cdimage.debian.org pseudopackage, see http://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages. > In addition to what is described below, today I noticed that the Last > modified date is now April 15th. But I received a permission denied > error when I tried to download from > http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/jigdo-dvd/debian-testing-i386-DVD-1.jigdo. FWIW, I had no problems downloading that file. Can you try again? Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Fwd: Links to download Testing distribution does not work
I am not quite sure which is is the correct place to post this. Below is my last post which never appeared anywhere in the system and got no replies (may be i posted to the wrong topic or something). In addition to what is described below, today I noticed that the Last modified date is now April 15th. But I received a permission denied error when I tried to download from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/jigdo-dvd/debian-testing-i386-DVD-1.jigdo. I am sending this in hope that this will be helpful. I am really sorry if I annoyed anyone. -- Forwarded message -- From: Mohamed Irshad Date: Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 1:16 AM Subject: Links to download Testing distribution does not work To: debian-bugs-d...@lists.debian.org Hi, I am being a debian Etch user who got an Internet connection recently wanted to download the testing version. I could not download the jigdo files from the official site. This is what happened 1. I went to http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ 2. Clicked Official jigdo files for the "testing" distribution -> DVD -> i386(which points to http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/lenny_di_rc2/i386/jigdo-dvd/ ) 3. Received the following error. >>>Not Found >>>The requested URL /cdimage/lenny_di_rc2/i386/jigdo-dvd/ was not found on >>>this server. 4. Strangely though I was unable to download the jigdo files, I could "Search Contents of .jigdo Files" and receive responses. I thought writing about this to the maintainers would be helpful. Hope it is useful. Note: I substituted the lenny_di_rc2 part with weekly-builds in the above url and tried http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/jigdo-dvd/. It worked. But the files listed were Last modified on 30-Mar-2009. I was a bit suspicious since the weekly builds can't be two weeks older, and chose not to download. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
How to install dante-server in testing-distribution
hi! I need to establish a socks5 proxy server. I find a lot of articles in the web say dante-server would be a good choice. But when I tried to install dante-server using apt-get, I found there is no package about dante-server in the source. The distribution I choose is testing. Will the testing distribution not include the dante-server and dante-client or will these packages be added later? If I want to install dante-server in testing distribution what should I do? waixy
Re: "testing" distribution weekly builds--- which packages are where?
On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 12:20:19AM -0600, Charles Blair wrote: >Even using jigdo, it's taking me a long time to download the > .iso images. Is there a list that tells me which image contains > which package, so that (I hope) I only have to download some of the > images? > You should only need the first DVD/CD to get a working system. And as long as you know how to work apt-get, you could just install a base system and manually add X/*DM/WindowManager to your system. But to more specifically answer your question, the first CD generally comes with the most popular packages. Iceweasel, GNOME (I think just gnome-core, though), and other very popular programs. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "testing" distribution weekly builds--- which packages are where?
Charles Blair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Even using jigdo, it's taking me a long time to download the > .iso images. Is there a list that tells me which image contains > which package, so that (I hope) I only have to download some of the > images? http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#list-image-contents HTH, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "testing" distribution weekly builds--- which packages are where?
On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 12:20:19AM -0600, Charles Blair wrote: >Even using jigdo, it's taking me a long time to download the > .iso images. Is there a list that tells me which image contains > which package, so that (I hope) I only have to download some of the > images? > According to the Debian mirror list [0], you have a mirror there locally at UIUC: debian.cites.uiuc.edu /pub/debian/ /pub/debian/ amd64 hurd-i386 i386 ia64 powerpc sparc You should be able to get it really fast. Regards, -Roberto [0] http://www.debian.org/mirror/list -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
"testing" distribution weekly builds--- which packages are where?
Even using jigdo, it's taking me a long time to download the .iso images. Is there a list that tells me which image contains which package, so that (I hope) I only have to download some of the images? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install Debian testing distribution
On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 01:48:58PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 04:20:50PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> > >> That's the right way. Though since you already have Windows, you can > >> also try http://www.goodbye-microsoft.com/ as an alternative to dealing > >> with CDs. > > > > I tried that, clicked on the image, and it said, > > > > Open 'http://people.debi...oft/pub/debian.exe'? > > Type: Windows Executable > > [] Do not ask again > > > > (Save As) (Open with 'WINE') (Cancel) > > > > > > This looks like a microsoft-specific page. Do I have to change my > > browser to make it work in Debian ;=) > > Oh, come on, Hendrik, I thought you knew better. ;o) It's "Goodbye > Microsoft" not "Hello, Microsoft, help me install Debian". ;o) What got me about that pop-up message was the offer to run it under wine. I find myself wonder ing if it might actually work... -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install Debian testing distribution
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 04:20:50PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> That's the right way. Though since you already have Windows, you can >> also try http://www.goodbye-microsoft.com/ as an alternative to dealing >> with CDs. > > I tried that, clicked on the image, and it said, > > Open 'http://people.debi...oft/pub/debian.exe'? > Type: Windows Executable > [] Do not ask again > > (Save As) (Open with 'WINE') (Cancel) > > > This looks like a microsoft-specific page. Do I have to change my > browser to make it work in Debian ;=) Oh, come on, Hendrik, I thought you knew better. ;o) It's "Goodbye Microsoft" not "Hello, Microsoft, help me install Debian". ;o) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install Debian testing distribution
On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 10:01:37PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:10:01 -0500 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 04:20:50PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > > > That's the right way. Though since you already have Windows, you > > > can also try http://www.goodbye-microsoft.com/ as an alternative to > > > dealing with CDs. > > > > I tried that, clicked on the image, and it said, > > > > Open 'http://people.debi...oft/pub/debian.exe'? > > Type: Windows Executable > > [] Do not ask again > > > > (Save As) (Open with 'WINE') (Cancel) > > > > > > This looks like a microsoft-specific page. Do I have to change my > > browser to make it work in Debian ;=) > > This is supposed to install Debian from Windows. For Debian you can > achieve similar with debootstrap. > whoosh! A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Install Debian testing distribution
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:10:01 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 04:20:50PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > That's the right way. Though since you already have Windows, you > > can also try http://www.goodbye-microsoft.com/ as an alternative to > > dealing with CDs. > > I tried that, clicked on the image, and it said, > > Open 'http://people.debi...oft/pub/debian.exe'? > Type: Windows Executable > [] Do not ask again > > (Save As) (Open with 'WINE') (Cancel) > > > This looks like a microsoft-specific page. Do I have to change my > browser to make it work in Debian ;=) This is supposed to install Debian from Windows. For Debian you can achieve similar with debootstrap. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install Debian testing distribution
On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 04:20:50PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > That's the right way. Though since you already have Windows, you can also > try http://www.goodbye-microsoft.com/ as an alternative to dealing with > CDs. I tried that, clicked on the image, and it said, Open 'http://people.debi...oft/pub/debian.exe'? Type: Windows Executable [] Do not ask again (Save As) (Open with 'WINE') (Cancel) This looks like a microsoft-specific page. Do I have to change my browser to make it work in Debian ;=) -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install Debian testing distribution
On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 04:20:50PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > rocky wrote: > > 3, What is the best way for me to find out which is the fastest mirror > > for me to download the Testing distribute packages? > > apt-spy > unfortunately, it appears apt-spy is *still* broken (segfaults). http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=apt-spy;dist=unstable there has been a NMU recently but the changelog doesn't refer to the segfault fix. and it is apparently still orphaned :-( A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Install Debian testing distribution
Celejar wrote: > On 15 Feb 2007 18:25:28 -0800 > "rocky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> I'm going install debian testing on my Dell Inpiron 1300. I'm going to >> make it a dual boot system. Right now I have Windows XP home edtion >> loaded on the laptop. And the 60 GB hard driver is not partitioned. >> Can any of you help me on the following please? >> >> 1, How can I free some space for Debian installation? What are the >> tools I need to use? Do I need to go into DOS consle to achieve this? > > The netinstaller (at least the daily builds, I don't know about the old > one) offers you the option to resize Windows paritions (FAT & NTFS). > There is a netinstall image for testing. I would strongly recommend backing up your system before trying to resize partitions already in play, however. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install Debian testing distribution
rocky wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm going install debian testing on my Dell Inpiron 1300. I'm going to > make it a dual boot system. Right now I have Windows XP home edtion > loaded on the laptop. And the 60 GB hard driver is not partitioned. > Can any of you help me on the following please? > > 1, How can I free some space for Debian installation? What are the > tools I need to use? Do I need to go into DOS consle to achieve this? Disk cleanup wizard, uninstall programs you don't regularly use, and do a defrag. > 2, I have broad band internet connection. It is not easy for me to get > a full installation CD. Therefore, I decided to use netinstall CD. But > there's no Netinstall CD for testing package. The workaround I can > think of is using Netinstall for Stable to install the base system and > upgrade to Testing ditribution. Is this the right way? That's the right way. Though since you already have Windows, you can also try http://www.goodbye-microsoft.com/ as an alternative to dealing with CDs. > 3, What is the best way for me to find out which is the fastest mirror > for me to download the Testing distribute packages? apt-spy > 4, What if I want install FreeBSD as the third Operating system on my > laptop? What is the best partition plan? If you really want to do this (NOT recommended: Pick an OS already!) you'll need to consult your bootloader's documentation and the various multiboot HOWTOs out there to come up with a game plan for this. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install Debian testing distribution
On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 17:48 -0500, Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 09:47:06 -0800 > "Michael M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > > > FreeBSD uses UFS (or UFS+ or UFS2, something like that) by default and > > unfortunately there is no support for reading from or writing to that > > file-system from Windows or Debian. You will be able to access your > > NTFS (Windows) and ext3 (Debian) partitions from FreeBSD, at least to > > read from them if not to write to them, but unless things have changed, > > your UFS (FreeBSD) partitions will not be accessible from either Windows > > or Debian. > > >From the my kernel docs (linux-source-2.6.18/fs/Kconfig): > > config UFS_FS > tristate "UFS file system support (read only)" > help > BSD and derivate versions of Unix (such as SunOS, FreeBSD, NetBSD, > OpenBSD and NeXTstep) use a file system called UFS. Some System V > Unixes can create and mount hard disk partitions and diskettes using > this file system as well. Saying Y here will allow you to read from > these partitions; if you also want to write to them, say Y to the > experimental "UFS file system write support", below. Please read the > file for more information. > > The recently released UFS2 variant (used in FreeBSD 5.x) is > READ-ONLY supported. > > [snip] > <[and more snip]> Cool! That's why I said "unless things have changed." :-) I looked into it several months ago, at least. Things do change rather quickly where Linux is concerned, perhaps a little less rapidly with the *BSD's. I bet there are still loads of web references out there that have not been updated to reflect that you can read from UFS partitions under Linux, presuming you're using a recent enough kernel. Thanks for the info! -- Michael M. ++ Portland, OR ++ USA "No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions of absolute reality; even larks and katydids are supposed, by some, to dream." --S. Jackson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install Debian testing distribution
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 09:47:06 -0800 "Michael M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > FreeBSD uses UFS (or UFS+ or UFS2, something like that) by default and > unfortunately there is no support for reading from or writing to that > file-system from Windows or Debian. You will be able to access your > NTFS (Windows) and ext3 (Debian) partitions from FreeBSD, at least to > read from them if not to write to them, but unless things have changed, > your UFS (FreeBSD) partitions will not be accessible from either Windows > or Debian. >From the my kernel docs (linux-source-2.6.18/fs/Kconfig): config UFS_FS tristate "UFS file system support (read only)" help BSD and derivate versions of Unix (such as SunOS, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD and NeXTstep) use a file system called UFS. Some System V Unixes can create and mount hard disk partitions and diskettes using this file system as well. Saying Y here will allow you to read from these partitions; if you also want to write to them, say Y to the experimental "UFS file system write support", below. Please read the file for more information. The recently released UFS2 variant (used in FreeBSD 5.x) is READ-ONLY supported. [snip] config UFS_FS_WRITE bool "UFS file system write support (DANGEROUS)" depends on UFS_FS && EXPERIMENTAL help Say Y here if you want to try writing to UFS partitions. This is experimental, so you should back up your UFS partitions beforehand. Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install Debian testing distribution
Michael M. wrote: [...] Basically, you need to think carefully about where you want what data, or you may find yourself rebooting multiple times throughout the day because such-and-such a file that you need is in a place where you can't get to it or can't edit it from where you happen to be. Perhaps Xen is the answer if you want Debian, Windows and BSD? -- Chris. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install Debian testing distribution
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It worked on my system. It installs the net-install snapshot of the day if I am not mistaken. Joe Paras pradhan wrote: > Haven't use this but worth checking it > > http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ > > > > Paras. > > On 2/16/07, Michael M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 18:25 -0800, rocky wrote: >> >> > 4, What if I want install FreeBSD as the third Operating system on my >> > laptop? What is the best partition plan? >> > >> >> One thing to consider regarding your partitions is that you will be >> dealing with some file-system incompatibility. Windows, by default, >> uses NTFS; both Debian and FreeBSD can access NTFS partitions and read >> data just fine, but write support is not necessarily as reliable. If >> you think you are going to want to copy data to your NTFS partition(s) >> from either Debian or FreeBSD, you should read up on the techniques and >> limitations of that process before you lay out your partitions. >> >> With Debian, you have a lot of file-system choices. For a triple-boot >> scenario, the best bet is probably ext3, which is stable and the most >> widely supported. But again, you should read up on the options and >> decide what's best for your needs. >> >> FreeBSD uses UFS (or UFS+ or UFS2, something like that) by default and >> unfortunately there is no support for reading from or writing to that >> file-system from Windows or Debian. You will be able to access your >> NTFS (Windows) and ext3 (Debian) partitions from FreeBSD, at least to >> read from them if not to write to them, but unless things have changed, >> your UFS (FreeBSD) partitions will not be accessible from either Windows >> or Debian. >> >> Basically, you need to think carefully about where you want what data, >> or you may find yourself rebooting multiple times throughout the day >> because such-and-such a file that you need is in a place where you can't >> get to it or can't edit it from where you happen to be. >> >> >> -- >> Michael M. ++ Portland, OR ++ USA >> "No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions >> of absolute reality; even larks and katydids are supposed, by some, to >> dream." --S. Jackson >> >> >> -- >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF1fgQiXBCVWpc5J4RApsDAJ0Wyze17OzpHTememd5fWSkIa1bFACcD4Q5 c1NQURll9g8cKBJMGP51pIM= =GTtd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install Debian testing distribution
Haven't use this but worth checking it http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ Paras. On 2/16/07, Michael M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 18:25 -0800, rocky wrote: > 4, What if I want install FreeBSD as the third Operating system on my > laptop? What is the best partition plan? > One thing to consider regarding your partitions is that you will be dealing with some file-system incompatibility. Windows, by default, uses NTFS; both Debian and FreeBSD can access NTFS partitions and read data just fine, but write support is not necessarily as reliable. If you think you are going to want to copy data to your NTFS partition(s) from either Debian or FreeBSD, you should read up on the techniques and limitations of that process before you lay out your partitions. With Debian, you have a lot of file-system choices. For a triple-boot scenario, the best bet is probably ext3, which is stable and the most widely supported. But again, you should read up on the options and decide what's best for your needs. FreeBSD uses UFS (or UFS+ or UFS2, something like that) by default and unfortunately there is no support for reading from or writing to that file-system from Windows or Debian. You will be able to access your NTFS (Windows) and ext3 (Debian) partitions from FreeBSD, at least to read from them if not to write to them, but unless things have changed, your UFS (FreeBSD) partitions will not be accessible from either Windows or Debian. Basically, you need to think carefully about where you want what data, or you may find yourself rebooting multiple times throughout the day because such-and-such a file that you need is in a place where you can't get to it or can't edit it from where you happen to be. -- Michael M. ++ Portland, OR ++ USA "No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions of absolute reality; even larks and katydids are supposed, by some, to dream." --S. Jackson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install Debian testing distribution
On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 18:25 -0800, rocky wrote: > 4, What if I want install FreeBSD as the third Operating system on my > laptop? What is the best partition plan? > One thing to consider regarding your partitions is that you will be dealing with some file-system incompatibility. Windows, by default, uses NTFS; both Debian and FreeBSD can access NTFS partitions and read data just fine, but write support is not necessarily as reliable. If you think you are going to want to copy data to your NTFS partition(s) from either Debian or FreeBSD, you should read up on the techniques and limitations of that process before you lay out your partitions. With Debian, you have a lot of file-system choices. For a triple-boot scenario, the best bet is probably ext3, which is stable and the most widely supported. But again, you should read up on the options and decide what's best for your needs. FreeBSD uses UFS (or UFS+ or UFS2, something like that) by default and unfortunately there is no support for reading from or writing to that file-system from Windows or Debian. You will be able to access your NTFS (Windows) and ext3 (Debian) partitions from FreeBSD, at least to read from them if not to write to them, but unless things have changed, your UFS (FreeBSD) partitions will not be accessible from either Windows or Debian. Basically, you need to think carefully about where you want what data, or you may find yourself rebooting multiple times throughout the day because such-and-such a file that you need is in a place where you can't get to it or can't edit it from where you happen to be. -- Michael M. ++ Portland, OR ++ USA "No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions of absolute reality; even larks and katydids are supposed, by some, to dream." --S. Jackson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install Debian testing distribution
On 15 Feb 2007 18:25:28 -0800 "rocky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm going install debian testing on my Dell Inpiron 1300. I'm going to > make it a dual boot system. Right now I have Windows XP home edtion > loaded on the laptop. And the 60 GB hard driver is not partitioned. > Can any of you help me on the following please? > > 1, How can I free some space for Debian installation? What are the > tools I need to use? Do I need to go into DOS consle to achieve this? The netinstaller (at least the daily builds, I don't know about the old one) offers you the option to resize Windows paritions (FAT & NTFS). There is a netinstall image for testing. Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install Debian testing distribution
rocky wrote: Hey all, I'm going install debian testing on my Dell Inpiron 1300. I'm going to make it a dual boot system. Right now I have Windows XP home edtion loaded on the laptop. And the 60 GB hard driver is not partitioned. Can any of you help me on the following please? 1, How can I free some space for Debian installation? What are the tools I need to use? Do I need to go into DOS consle to achieve this? The easiest way to repartition your hard drive would be to use the GParted live CD (30MB download) or live USB (available from http://gparted.sourceforge.net/). There is good documentation on the website. I seem to remember reading that it is no longer necessary to defrag WinXP first, but I cannot confirm that. Google can help you here. Alternatively, if you have a Knoppix disc, you may find Parted on there, possibly QtParted. Make sure that you backup first. You might consider installing a second hard drive for Debian/FreeBSD, in which case you can leave the WinXP partition alone. (Except: allow Grub to overwrite the boot sector on the WinXP drive.) 2, I have broad band internet connection. It is not easy for me to get a full installation CD. Therefore, I decided to use netinstall CD. But there's no Netinstall CD for testing package. There is! http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ The workaround I can think of is using Netinstall for Stable to install the base system and upgrade to Testing ditribution. Is this the right way? You can do this. Change the repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list from "sarge" or "stable" to "etch". (Do not change to "testing" or you will not end up with Etch when it becomes stable.) [...] Please do report back to this thread when you have been successful and tell us what you did! -- Chris. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install Debian testing distribution
On Thu February 15 2007 19:09, Alan Ianson wrote: > There are a few net install images for etch. Look here.. > > http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/ Opps, those are full disc sets.. try here.. :) http://www.us.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install Debian testing distribution
On Thu February 15 2007 18:25, rocky wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm going install debian testing on my Dell Inpiron 1300. I'm going to > make it a dual boot system. Right now I have Windows XP home edtion > loaded on the laptop. And the 60 GB hard driver is not partitioned. > Can any of you help me on the following please? > > 1, How can I free some space for Debian installation? What are the > tools I need to use? Do I need to go into DOS consle to achieve this? The installer will give you an opportunity to create or format a partition to install debian. Don't format anything you plan on keeping.. ;) > 2, I have broad band internet connection. It is not easy for me to get > a full installation CD. Therefore, I decided to use netinstall CD. But > there's no Netinstall CD for testing package. The workaround I can > think of is using Netinstall for Stable to install the base system and > upgrade to Testing ditribution. Is this the right way? There are a few net install images for etch. Look here.. http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/ > 3, What is the best way for me to find out which is the fastest mirror > for me to download the Testing distribute packages? There is a package called aptspy that will find a good fast mirror for you. I don't think that will help much until you get your debian system up and running though. The installer will also let you choose from a list of mirrors, just try one close to home. I find the .edu ones are good but YMMV. > 4, What if I want install FreeBSD as the third Operating system on my > laptop? What is the best partition plan? Just leave some space on your drive to install whatever else you'd like later on. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install Debian testing distribution
rocky wrote:
Hey all,
I'm going install debian testing on my Dell Inpiron 1300. I'm going to
make it a dual boot system. Right now I have Windows XP home edtion
loaded on the laptop. And the 60 GB hard driver is not partitioned.
Can any of you help me on the following please?
1, How can I free some space for Debian installation? What are the
tools I need to use? Do I need to go into DOS consle to achieve this?
I had a similar situation when installing Fedora, and used parted.
2, I have broad band internet connection. It is not easy for me to get
a full installation CD. Therefore, I decided to use netinstall CD. But
there's no Netinstall CD for testing package. The workaround I can
If you want, I'll make you a set and send them to you. I don't use
Debian, but I can download and burn you CDs. Contact me via separate
e-mail to arrange it. I'll only charge you what it costs me in CDs
and postage.
I don't know the answers to the rest of your questions.
Mike
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Install Debian testing distribution
Hey all, I'm going install debian testing on my Dell Inpiron 1300. I'm going to make it a dual boot system. Right now I have Windows XP home edtion loaded on the laptop. And the 60 GB hard driver is not partitioned. Can any of you help me on the following please? 1, How can I free some space for Debian installation? What are the tools I need to use? Do I need to go into DOS consle to achieve this? 2, I have broad band internet connection. It is not easy for me to get a full installation CD. Therefore, I decided to use netinstall CD. But there's no Netinstall CD for testing package. The workaround I can think of is using Netinstall for Stable to install the base system and upgrade to Testing ditribution. Is this the right way? 3, What is the best way for me to find out which is the fastest mirror for me to download the Testing distribute packages? 4, What if I want install FreeBSD as the third Operating system on my laptop? What is the best partition plan? Thanks a lot in advance! Rocky -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: testing distribution
On Thursday 07 September 2006 03:55, Mathias Brodala wrote: > you’ll always have Etch. You’ll have it when it becomes stable and when it > becomes oldstable one day. So you’ll leave the testing branch. Exception: I still occasionally come across a user that doesn't track the mailing lists or anything, just uses Debian, and hasn't heard that sid isn't going to branch ever yet... -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpabP5RPDU3d.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: testing distribution
Thanks Mathias,It is what I was thinking. Regards,JordiOn 9/7/06, Mathias Brodala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Jordi.> I'm using Debian Testing. When Etch is out, will I have to change my > sources.list?It depends on how your sources.list looks like.If you have something like the following: deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free ^^^then you will automatically receive updates for the next testing version ofDebian. (Whatever its name will be.)But if you have something like this: deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free you'll always have Etch. You'll have it when it becomes stable and when it becomes oldstable one day. So you'll leave the testing branch.Depending on what you want, you should use the appropriate entries in yoursources.list.Regards, Mathias
Re: testing distribution
Hello Jordi. > I'm using Debian Testing. When Etch is out, will I have to change my > sources.list? It depends on how your sources.list looks like. If you have something like the following: deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free ^^^ then you will automatically receive updates for the next testing version of Debian. (Whatever its name will be.) But if you have something like this: deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free you’ll always have Etch. You’ll have it when it becomes stable and when it becomes oldstable one day. So you’ll leave the testing branch. Depending on what you want, you should use the appropriate entries in your sources.list. Regards, Mathias signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
testing distribution
I'm using Debian Testing. When Etch is out, will I have to change my sources.list? or I'll follow on the testing distribution (changes done automatically?). Just doing an apt-get update will do the trick?
Re: security support for testing distribution
Does that mean that security updates go from unstable to testing security repository to testing distribution or am I misreading something here? No. If a (critical) vulnerability is discovered in some package which is already in testing or stable the security team patches it and uploads a fix into the security archive for the appropriate release. (for the users to fix the problem immediately) Then they notify the author and he applies the fix in unstable, which then migrates on to testing and stable as usual. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
security support for testing distribution
I am trying to understand how the security support works for testing distribution. According to http://www.debian.org/security/faq.en.html#testing-security security support migrates from unstable to testing for any package. However, there is a separate testing security repository according to http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/05/msg6.html Does that mean that security updates go from unstable to testing security repository to testing distribution or am I misreading something here? thanks for any pointers raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Testing distribution question
Hello Jiri Palecek (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > I have a question about when can a package enter > testing, particularly when does it break other packages. > > I could imagine that, for example: > > packages A can be added to testing, packages U upgraded > and R removed if for any debian system, upgrading packages > in U and removing packages in R doesn't yield any broken > packages (that is, unmet depends or conflicts) > > However, this has flaws. > > Imagine the situation, in which there are packages A and B, > previously unrelated, and a new version of A is coming in and > it Conflicts: B. In that case, systems having both A and B > will have to remove one. Is that OK? Yes. Obviously the new package requires you to remove either one. This happend with recet hotplug and udev versions. This is okay as long as the new package has correct dependencies that make sure the conflicting packages are removed. best regards Andreas Janssen -- Andreas Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP-Key-ID: 0xDC801674 ICQ #17079270 Registered Linux User #267976 http://www.andreas-janssen.de/debian-tipps-sarge.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Testing distribution question
Hello, I have a question about when can a package enter testing, particularly when does it break other packages. I could imagine that, for example: packages A can be added to testing, packages U upgraded and R removed if for any debian system, upgrading packages in U and removing packages in R doesn't yield any broken packages (that is, unmet depends or conflicts) However, this has flaws. Imagine the situation, in which there are packages A and B, previously unrelated, and a new version of A is coming in and it Conflicts: B. In that case, systems having both A and B will have to remove one. Is that OK? In any case, I don't see any definition of "A breaks B". Jiri Palecek __ Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS! Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Base debian for testing distribution
On (08/03/04 03:11), sara wrote: > basically i have a debian woody installed in my PC .I > want to try some packages in Testing distribution.For > that only i am asking the base root file system for > testing didtribution. Well if you already have woody installed and want to upgrade to Sarge (testing), assuming you have a reasonably fast connection, all you need to do is change your sources lists (/etc/apt/sources.list) replacing stable or woody with sarge or testing and then upgrade. See: http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/archive/debian/laptop/2003/01/msg00162.html Regards Clive > > --- Clive Menzies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On (08/03/04 02:49), sara wrote: > > > I want to know from where i can download the base > > root > > > file system for testing distribution(like > > basedebs.tar > > > for woody)of Debian.How to unpack it.any one plz > > > explain in detail.THnaks in advance > > A good place to start is: > > http://www.debian.org/distrib/ > > > > Depending on your machine/setup there are a number > > of ways to install. > > You will need to do a little research before > > deciding how to proceed. -- http://www.clivemenzies.co.uk strategies for business -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Base debian for testing distribution
On (08/03/04 02:49), sara wrote: > I want to know from where i can download the base root > file system for testing distribution(like basedebs.tar > for woody)of Debian.How to unpack it.any one plz > explain in detail.THnaks in advance A good place to start is: http://www.debian.org/distrib/ Depending on your machine/setup there are a number of ways to install. You will need to do a little research before deciding how to proceed. HTH Clive -- http://www.clivemenzies.co.uk strategies for business -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Base debian for testing distribution
I want to know from where i can download the base root file system for testing distribution(like basedebs.tar for woody)of Debian.How to unpack it.any one plz explain in detail.THnaks in advance __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: want to install testing distribution on Intel system using network install CD
Hi James, * James Oldham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031028 09:46]: > I am new to Debian and a relative novice with Linux. I want to > install the testing distribution on an IBM Pentium II (model > 6285-66U, 384 ram, plenty of disk space, 4MB S3 on the motherboard). Welcome. Tip number 1- wrap your lines at about 72 characters. > How I use my current network install CD (which defaults to stable) to > install the testing distribution? I've tried editing the sources > list, changing "stable" to "testing" on each line, but my success has > been only partial. I think you need to be more specific. What did you do after editing you /etc/apt/sources.list? I guess you need to do the following. # apt-get update # apt-get upgrade # apt-get dist-upgrade > The main purpose for this machine will be a file server (including > Samba) inside my firewall, but I would like to be able to use the > computer as a workstation occasionally. > > I've successfully installed the stable distribution over the > internet, but I haven't figured out how to get the X server working. > I understand that the testing distribution includes newer versions of > XFree86 that support the S3 chipset I have. When I run startx on my > stable install, the error message says that the file doesn't exist, > but I have been able to run through the configuration program and > view output file. Run tasksel and select "X window system". HTH, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test9-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
want to install testing distribution on Intel system using network install CD
I am new to Debian and a relative novice with Linux. I want to install the testing distribution on an IBM Pentium II (model 6285-66U, 384 ram, plenty of disk space, 4MB S3 on the motherboard). How I use my current network install CD (which defaults to stable) to install the testing distribution? I've tried editing the sources list, changing "stable" to "testing" on each line, but my success has been only partial. The main purpose for this machine will be a file server (including Samba) inside my firewall, but I would like to be able to use the computer as a workstation occasionally. I've successfully installed the stable distribution over the internet, but I haven't figured out how to get the X server working. I understand that the testing distribution includes newer versions of XFree86 that support the S3 chipset I have. When I run startx on my stable install, the error message says that the file doesn't exist, but I have been able to run through the configuration program and view output file. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xfree86 4.0.2 problems when using XF86Setup on testing distribution
Don't use XF86Setup to setup X 4. Use xf86config instead. The graphical tools have never worked very well with X 4. You might want to take a look at http://www.xfree86.org/4.0.2/RELNOTES1.html#1. While they no longer say that the graphical tools won't work you will notice that XF86setup is *not* listed. This is for a reason. As to the other question. I would suggest that you might consider just going to testing. This is what worked best for me. Also keep in mind that if you do go to testing you will most likely have to grabe xserver-xfree86, xbase-clients, xbase-fonts, and the other font packaages by hand. It is kind of a pain but all in all it is worth it as X 4 is much better. Also for me testing as been very stable. -- Original Message -- From: Walter Tautz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Walter Tautz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:50:50 -0500 (EST) > > >On 27 Feb 2001, Jonas Wolz wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'm running a Potato (2.2r2) system and want to upgrade it to Xfree86 4.0.2 >> using the updated packages from the debian server. >> My question: Will the binary packages run on my system without problems or do I >> have to take the source package ? >> > >Xfree version 4 is different kettle of fish from X 3.3. I am currently having difficulty >getting it work as the XF86Setup program claims it succeeds but when I run startx I get >errors (looks like it's time to read the manpage): (NOTE. when XF86Setup tries the non SVGA >X-server, ATI Mach64 it starts or at least that is the way it looks, alas, I can NOT switch >to another tty to confirm whether the process I think is indeed running... sigh... > >Error message: > > > >on 4.0.2 / X Window System >(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6400) >Release Date: 18 December 2000 >If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is >newer than the above date, look for a newer version before >reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) >Operating System: Linux 2.2.18 i686 [ELF] >Module Loader present >(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Mon Feb 26 20:25:25 2001 >(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4" >Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 >Device section "Primary Card" must have a Driver line. >(EE) Problem parsing the config file >(EE) Error from xf86HandleConfigFile() > >See the attached XF86Config-4 file > >-walter > >
Re: Xfree86 4.0.2 problems when using XF86Setup on testing distribution
On 27 Feb 2001, Jonas Wolz wrote: > Hi, > > I'm running a Potato (2.2r2) system and want to upgrade it to Xfree86 4.0.2 > using the updated packages from the debian server. > My question: Will the binary packages run on my system without problems or do > I > have to take the source package ? > Xfree version 4 is different kettle of fish from X 3.3. I am currently having difficulty getting it work as the XF86Setup program claims it succeeds but when I run startx I get errors (looks like it's time to read the manpage): (NOTE. when XF86Setup tries the non SVGA X-server, ATI Mach64 it starts or at least that is the way it looks, alas, I can NOT switch to another tty to confirm whether the process I think is indeed running... sigh... Error message: on 4.0.2 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6400) Release Date: 18 December 2000 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Operating System: Linux 2.2.18 i686 [ELF] Module Loader present (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Mon Feb 26 20:25:25 2001 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4" Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Device section "Primary Card" must have a Driver line. (EE) Problem parsing the config file (EE) Error from xf86HandleConfigFile() See the attached XF86Config-4 file -walter # XF86Config auto-generated by XF86Setup # # Copyright (c) 1996 by The XFree86 Project, Inc. # # Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a # copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), # to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation # the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, # and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the # Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: # # The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in # all copies or substantial portions of the Software. # # THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR # IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, # FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL # THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, # WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF # OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE # SOFTWARE. # # Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall # not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other # dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the # XFree86 Project. # # See 'man XF86Config' for info on the format of this file Section "Files" RgbPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" EndSection Section "ServerFlags" EndSection Section "Keyboard" Protocol"Standard" XkbRules"xfree86" XkbModel"pc101" XkbLayout "us" EndSection Section "Pointer" Protocol"Microsoft" Device "/dev/mouse" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Primary Monitor" VendorName "Unknown" ModelName "Unknown" HorizSync 30-82 VertRefresh 50-120 Modeline "1024x768" 115.50 1024 1056 1248 1440 768 771 781 802 -hsync -vsync EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Primary Card" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "ATI Mach64" EndSection Section "Screen" Driver "Accel" Device "Primary Card" Monitor "Primary Monitor" DefaultColorDepth 16 SubSection "Display" Depth8 Modes"1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth15 Modes"1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth16 Modes"1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth24 Modes"1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth32 Modes"1024x768" EndSubSection EndSection Section "Screen" Driver "SVGA" Device "Primary Card" Monitor "Primary Monitor" DefaultColorDepth 16 SubSection "Display" Depth8 Modes"1
Re: testing distribution security updates?
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 04:23:52PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > Chris Ruvolo wrote: > > If a package is in the testing distribution and a security update is issued > > that effects stable, testing and unstable, how long before the testing > > package is updated? Does it have to go through the full process of > > maturation to make it to testing from unstable? > Packages can be expidited into testing if the maintainer uploads them > with a high urgency field set. I suppose that dependancies could still > keep them out though. They can be expedited even more by having an urgency of critical, but if their dependencies are broken, or they're not recompiled on some architecture, or they're buggy, they won't go in. > > Would the updated packed be backported or otherwise > > pushed into testing? How soon? > Good question. I suppose that if dependancies keep them out of testing, > this could be a problem. Getting packages compiled on all architectures is more likely to be the problem: glibc has been held up because the arm autobuilder was running out of space trying to compile it, eg. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/> I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``_Any_ increase in interface difficulty, in exchange for a benefit you do not understand, cannot perceive, or don't care about, is too much.'' -- John S. Novak, III (The Humblest Man on the Net) pgpDb5eDu6OJA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: testing distribution security updates?
Chris Ruvolo wrote: > If a package is in the testing distribution and a security update is issued > that effects stable, testing and unstable, how long before the testing > package is updated? Does it have to go through the full process of > maturation to make it to testing from unstable? Packages can be expidited into testing if the maintainer uploads them with a high urgency field set. I suppose that dependancies could still keep them out though. > How about if the package in stable is not effected (i.e. only testing and > unstable are vulnerable)? Would there be any notification on the > security-announce list? Often not. > Would the updated packed be backported or otherwise > pushed into testing? How soon? Good question. I suppose that if dependancies keep them out of testing, this could be a problem. > Would you recommend keeping a line in /etc/apt/sources.list for the security > server's stable collection if the box is running on testing or unstable > packages? Yes, it's a good idea because you may pick up updates from there before they hit unstable/testing. -- see shy jo
testing distribution security updates?
Hi all. I've just installed a box with packages from the testing dist. Some questions came to mind about security updates for packages in testing. If a package is in the testing distribution and a security update is issued that effects stable, testing and unstable, how long before the testing package is updated? Does it have to go through the full process of maturation to make it to testing from unstable? How about if the package in stable is not effected (i.e. only testing and unstable are vulnerable)? Would there be any notification on the security-announce list? Would the updated packed be backported or otherwise pushed into testing? How soon? Would you recommend keeping a line in /etc/apt/sources.list for the security server's stable collection if the box is running on testing or unstable packages? Thanks for the info, -Chris PS: Please cc me in responses as I am not subscribed to the list. pgpSs75VL4L9T.pgp Description: PGP signature
How to apt to testing-distribution
Hi, just wanted to ask what I have to put into my apt-conf file to get the testing distribution? Would this be enough? > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free > deb http://security.debian.org/ potato/updates main contrib non-free > deb ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde/debian potato main Thanx, Gery -- - Gernot Bauer, University of Linz, Austria [EMAIL PROTECTED] - The answer is yes, me.
Re: XFree86 4.0 and the testing distribution
Xfree86 4.x isn't included in the testing tree yet. The way I understand it, it will be added eventually. I *think* that woody is now the same as the testing tree, but the less stable packages in woody got bumped into the new unstable. People who were running woody before the testing tree came about have X 4, but those of us who just migrated to testing don't. If anyone has a better explanation of this, or sees something wrong with my logic, please chime in, as information about testing seems to be lacking. -Rob On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 12:09:35PM -0500, hawk wrote: > > Gee, the testing distribution was announced later in the day when I > decided that a lagged unstable was what was really needed . . . :) > > Anyway, I've tried toinstall it on the kids machine with mixed success. > As near as I can tell, the dependencies between XFree 3.3 and 4.0 cross > over. When I select the Xfree tasks, I end up with parts of 3.3 and > nothing working. I don't see anything in the archives for the last > month or so, so could someone kindly pass me a clue? > > Thanks > > hawk, who actually downloaded it all over a 28k modem > > -- > Prof. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. Smeal 178(814) 375-4700 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > These opinions will not be those of Penn State until it pays my retainer. > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
XFree86 4.0 and the testing distribution
Gee, the testing distribution was announced later in the day when I decided that a lagged unstable was what was really needed . . . :) Anyway, I've tried toinstall it on the kids machine with mixed success. As near as I can tell, the dependencies between XFree 3.3 and 4.0 cross over. When I select the Xfree tasks, I end up with parts of 3.3 and nothing working. I don't see anything in the archives for the last month or so, so could someone kindly pass me a clue? Thanks hawk, who actually downloaded it all over a 28k modem -- Prof. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. Smeal 178(814) 375-4700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] These opinions will not be those of Penn State until it pays my retainer.
upgrade using testing-distribution
Last night I did an upgarde using the testing-distribution (http://ftp-master.debian.org/~ajt/). I don't want to fill in bug-reports before I got some feedback. 1. I used the following commandline: #apt-get --ignore-hold --fix-missing upgrade 2>&1 | tee upgrade.out The 2>&1 seems to make some problems. I use the text-frontend to debconf: Configuring debconf itself and console-data just showed by the question ( Which keyboard lyout to you use?[q]), but the explanation was not showed. Very strange is, that in the log there was only the explanation and not the question. Is there a better way of logging (I found the -q flag afterwards). 2.I had to answer the questions the console-data (qewrty...) twice. Once in dialog, once in text-frontend. I told debconf to reask the questions, but why twice on one upgrade? Small things that went wrong. Should I submit a bug report? Preparing to replace console-tools 1:0.2.3-10 (using .../console-tools_0.2.3-10. 3.deb) ... Document `lct' is not installed, cannot remove. Preparing to replace exim 3.12-6 (using .../mail/exim_3.12-10.deb) ... error: exim runs from inetd --Is this really an error? - Unpacking replacement emacs20 ... dpkg: warning - unable to delete old file `/usr/share/emacs/20.5/site-lisp': Dir ectory not empty dpkg: warning - unable to delete old file `/usr/share/emacs/20.5/lisp': Director y not empty dpkg: warning - unable to delete old file `/usr/share/emacs/20.5': Directory not empty --- install/hyperlatex: byte-compiling for emacs20 Loading 00debian-vars... Loading 50auctex (source)... Loading 50dpkg-dev (source)... While compiling toplevel forms in file /usr/share/emacs20/site-lisp/hyperlatex/h yperlatex.el: ** assignment to free variable hyperlatex-show-expansions ** assignment to free variable hyperlatex-meta-offset ** reference to free variable hyperlatex-meta-offset While compiling toplevel forms: ** assignment to free variable hyperlatex-meta-n ** reference to free variable hyperlatex-meta-offset and a lot of messages like this for hyperlatex-* -- Thomas Guettler Office: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> www.interface-business.de Private:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://yi.org/guettli
