plasma5 - how to update menus

2017-09-15 Thread Hans
Hi folks,

I installed a new application (not from repo), and there is a *.desktop file in 
/usr/share/applications.

But I the new application does not appear in the menus of plasma5/kde.

How can I force, to recreate the menus in plasma5? I tried "update-menus", 
"kbuildsycoca5 --noincremental" and "kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental" as well 
without any success.

I also removed ~/.local/share/applications away - with no success.

Is there any other way, to recreate the menus in plasma5?

Thanks for any hints.

Best regards

Hans



Re: update-menus erro, e menu Debian no k de sumiu, solução.

2006-08-24 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 08/24/2006 01:35 AM, Eddie wrote:
 Comando update-menus
 
 erro:
 
 
 No arquivo /usr/share/menu/apollon, na linha (ou na definição que
 termina na linha) 1:
 [...]sharing daemon giFT   command=/usr/bin/apollon
 icon=icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/apollon.xpm
 needs=package(apollon):needs=X11 package=apollon
 section=section=Apps/Net title=longtitle=Graphical
 [...] ^
 Esperado: =
 install-menu: /etc/menu-methods/twm: abortando
 update-menus[1293]: Script /etc/menu-methods/twm retornou status de erro 1.
 No arquivo /usr/share/menu/apollon, na linha (ou na definição que
 termina na linha) 1:
 [...]sharing daemon giFT   command=/usr/bin/apollon
 icon=icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/apollon.xpm
 needs=package(apollon):needs=X11 package=apollon
 section=section=Apps/Net title=longtitle=Graphical
 [...] ^
 Esperado: =
 install-menu: /etc/menu-methods/menu-xdg: abortando
 update-menus[1293]: Script /etc/menu-methods/menu-xdg retornou status de
 erro 1.
 No arquivo /usr/share/menu/apollon, na linha (ou na definição que
 termina na linha) 1:
 [...]sharing daemon giFT   command=/usr/bin/apollon
 icon=icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/apollon.xpm
 needs=package(apollon):needs=X11 package=apollon
 section=section=Apps/Net title=longtitle=Graphical
 [...] ^
 Esperado: =
 install-menu: /etc/menu-methods/xdg-desktop-entry-spec-apps: abortando
 update-menus[1293]: Script /etc/menu-methods/xdg-desktop-entry-spec-apps
 retornou status de erro 1.
 No arquivo /usr/share/menu/apollon, na linha (ou na definição que
 termina na linha) 1:
 [...]sharing daemon giFT   command=/usr/bin/apollon
 icon=icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/apollon.xpm
 needs=package(apollon):needs=X11 package=apollon
 section=section=Apps/Net title=longtitle=Graphical
 [...] ^
 Esperado: =
 install-menu: /etc/menu-methods/xdg-desktop-entry-spec-dirs: abortando
 update-menus[1293]: Script /etc/menu-methods/xdg-desktop-entry-spec-dirs
 retornou status de erro 1.
 No arquivo /usr/share/menu/apollon, na linha (ou na definição que
 termina na linha) 1:
 [...]sharing daemon giFT   command=/usr/bin/apollon
 icon=icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/apollon.xpm
 needs=package(apollon):needs=X11 package=apollon
 section=section=Apps/Net title=longtitle=Graphical
 [...] ^
 Esperado: =
 install-menu: /etc/menu-methods/xdg-desktop-entry-spec-sessions: abortando
 update-menus[1293]: Script
 /etc/menu-methods/xdg-desktop-entry-spec-sessions retornou status de
 erro 1.
 No arquivo /usr/share/menu/apollon, na linha (ou na definição que
 termina na linha) 1:
 [...]sharing daemon giFT   command=/usr/bin/apollon
 icon=icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/apollon.xpm
 needs=package(apollon):needs=X11 package=apollon
 section=section=Apps/Net title=longtitle=Graphical
 [...] ^
 Esperado: =
 install-menu: /etc/menu-methods/gnome-panel-data: abortando
 update-menus[1293]: Script /etc/menu-methods/gnome-panel-data retornou
 status de erro 1.
 
 Solução, aqui funciono, não deu erro, e o menu no kde do Debian, que por
 causa desse erro tinha sumido, volto.
 
 em /usr/share/menu/
 edite o arquivo apollon
 
 arquivo apollon do sistema
 
 package(apollon):needs=X11 section=Apps/Net \
title=Apollon \
icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/apollon.xpm \
longtitle=Graphical interface to the file-sharing daemon giFT \
command=/usr/bin/apollon
 
 agora na primeira linha coloque ?, isso no começo.
 Vai ficar assim
 
 ?package(apollon):needs=X11 section=Apps/Net \
title=Apollon \
icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/apollon.xpm \
longtitle=Graphical interface to the file-sharing daemon giFT \
command=/usr/bin/apollon
 
 
 salve e de o comando update-menus, e saia do kde e entre novamente

Tinha um bug reportado pelo hpfn e já foi corrigido, nas
próximas versões você não deve mais encontrar este problemas. :)

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=370691

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update-menus erro, e menu Debian no kde sumiu, solução.

2006-08-23 Thread Eddie

Comando update-menus

erro:


No arquivo /usr/share/menu/apollon, na linha (ou na definição que 
termina na linha) 1:
[...]sharing daemon giFT   command=/usr/bin/apollon 
icon=icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/apollon.xpm 
needs=package(apollon):needs=X11 package=apollon 
section=section=Apps/Net title=longtitle=Graphical

[...] ^
Esperado: =
install-menu: /etc/menu-methods/twm: abortando
update-menus[1293]: Script /etc/menu-methods/twm retornou status de erro 1.
No arquivo /usr/share/menu/apollon, na linha (ou na definição que 
termina na linha) 1:
[...]sharing daemon giFT   command=/usr/bin/apollon 
icon=icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/apollon.xpm 
needs=package(apollon):needs=X11 package=apollon 
section=section=Apps/Net title=longtitle=Graphical

[...] ^
Esperado: =
install-menu: /etc/menu-methods/menu-xdg: abortando
update-menus[1293]: Script /etc/menu-methods/menu-xdg retornou status de 
erro 1.
No arquivo /usr/share/menu/apollon, na linha (ou na definição que 
termina na linha) 1:
[...]sharing daemon giFT   command=/usr/bin/apollon 
icon=icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/apollon.xpm 
needs=package(apollon):needs=X11 package=apollon 
section=section=Apps/Net title=longtitle=Graphical

[...] ^
Esperado: =
install-menu: /etc/menu-methods/xdg-desktop-entry-spec-apps: abortando
update-menus[1293]: Script /etc/menu-methods/xdg-desktop-entry-spec-apps 
retornou status de erro 1.
No arquivo /usr/share/menu/apollon, na linha (ou na definição que 
termina na linha) 1:
[...]sharing daemon giFT   command=/usr/bin/apollon 
icon=icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/apollon.xpm 
needs=package(apollon):needs=X11 package=apollon 
section=section=Apps/Net title=longtitle=Graphical

[...] ^
Esperado: =
install-menu: /etc/menu-methods/xdg-desktop-entry-spec-dirs: abortando
update-menus[1293]: Script /etc/menu-methods/xdg-desktop-entry-spec-dirs 
retornou status de erro 1.
No arquivo /usr/share/menu/apollon, na linha (ou na definição que 
termina na linha) 1:
[...]sharing daemon giFT   command=/usr/bin/apollon 
icon=icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/apollon.xpm 
needs=package(apollon):needs=X11 package=apollon 
section=section=Apps/Net title=longtitle=Graphical

[...] ^
Esperado: =
install-menu: /etc/menu-methods/xdg-desktop-entry-spec-sessions: abortando
update-menus[1293]: Script 
/etc/menu-methods/xdg-desktop-entry-spec-sessions retornou status de erro 1.
No arquivo /usr/share/menu/apollon, na linha (ou na definição que 
termina na linha) 1:
[...]sharing daemon giFT   command=/usr/bin/apollon 
icon=icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/apollon.xpm 
needs=package(apollon):needs=X11 package=apollon 
section=section=Apps/Net title=longtitle=Graphical

[...] ^
Esperado: =
install-menu: /etc/menu-methods/gnome-panel-data: abortando
update-menus[1293]: Script /etc/menu-methods/gnome-panel-data retornou 
status de erro 1.


Solução, aqui funciono, não deu erro, e o menu no kde do Debian, que por 
causa desse erro tinha sumido, volto.


em /usr/share/menu/
edite o arquivo apollon

arquivo apollon do sistema

package(apollon):needs=X11 section=Apps/Net \
   title=Apollon \
   icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/apollon.xpm \
   longtitle=Graphical interface to the file-sharing daemon giFT \
   command=/usr/bin/apollon

agora na primeira linha coloque ?, isso no começo.
Vai ficar assim

?package(apollon):needs=X11 section=Apps/Net \
   title=Apollon \
   icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/apollon.xpm \
   longtitle=Graphical interface to the file-sharing daemon giFT \
   command=/usr/bin/apollon


salve e de o comando update-menus, e saia do kde e entre novamente


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pb update-menus dans debian/sid (unstable) x86

2005-10-11 Thread Basile STARYNKEVITCH

Bonjour,

depuis quelques jours, avec Debian/Sid=Unstable sous x86, en faisant
apt-get update puis apt-get dist-upgrade, j'obtiens par exemple

(Reading database ... 166337 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace synaptic 0.57.5 (using .../synaptic_0.57.5.1_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement synaptic ...
update-menus: relocation error: update-menus: symbol 
_ZN9__gnu_cxx6__poolILb1EE13_M_initializeEv, version GLIBCXX_3.4.6 not defined 
in file libstdc++.so.6 with link time reference

là le processus apt-get se bloque, je l'interromps par CtrlC pour
obtenir

dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/synaptic_0.57.5.1_i386.deb 
(--unpack):
 dpkg: warning - old post-removal script killed by signal (Interrupt)

et un apt-get install --reinstall menu ne marche pas.

je n'arrive pas à purger le paquet menu non plus qui en est à la
version menu_2.1.26

Si quelqu'un a une idée

(oui, je sais que Sid est instable, mais ca fait longtemps que je
l'utilise, et elle est souvent plus stable que ça!!)

Cordialement

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Re: pb update-menus dans debian/sid (unstable) x86

2005-10-11 Thread Frédéric Bothamy
* Basile STARYNKEVITCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-10-11 19:44] :
 
 Bonjour,
 
 depuis quelques jours, avec Debian/Sid=Unstable sous x86, en faisant
 apt-get update puis apt-get dist-upgrade, j'obtiens par exemple
 
 (Reading database ... 166337 files and directories currently installed.)
 Preparing to replace synaptic 0.57.5 (using .../synaptic_0.57.5.1_i386.deb) 
 ...
 Unpacking replacement synaptic ...
 update-menus: relocation error: update-menus: symbol 
 _ZN9__gnu_cxx6__poolILb1EE13_M_initializeEv, version GLIBCXX_3.4.6 not 
 defined in file libstdc++.so.6 with link time reference
 
 là le processus apt-get se bloque, je l'interromps par CtrlC pour
 obtenir
 
 dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/synaptic_0.57.5.1_i386.deb 
 (--unpack):
  dpkg: warning - old post-removal script killed by signal (Interrupt)
 
 et un apt-get install --reinstall menu ne marche pas.
 
 je n'arrive pas à purger le paquet menu non plus qui en est à la
 version menu_2.1.26
 
 Si quelqu'un a une idée

C'est peut-être le bogue #332876, en tout cas, ce sont les mêmes
symptômes. Tu as peut-être une bibliothèque C++ expérimentale (par
exemple dans /usr/lib/gcc-snapshot/lib) qui pose problème. As-tu bien la
dernière version de libstdc++6 ? (4.0.2-2 pour Sid)


Fred

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Re: pb update-menus dans debian/sid (unstable) x86

2005-10-11 Thread Basile STARYNKEVITCH
Le Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 08:16:45PM +0200, Fr?d?ric Bothamy écrivait/wrote:
 * Basile STARYNKEVITCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-10-11 19:44] :
  
  Bonjo
 
 C'est peut-être le bogue #332876, en tout cas, ce sont les mêmes
 symptômes. 

Merci, ca y ressemble, et c'est vrai que j'ai un gcc snapshot récent
dans mon /usr/local il m'a suffit de mettre dans /etc/ld.so.conf

   /usr/X11R6/lib
   /lib64
   /usr/lib64
   /usr/X11R6/lib64
   /usr/lib
   /lib
   /usr/local/lib
   /usr/local/qt4/lib

puis après un ldconfig tout est rentré dans l'ordre.

Merci beaucoup

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update-menus et entrées en double

2005-06-13 Thread Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)

Bonjour,

Si je lance update-menus, il me créé les entrées Debian du menu de  
gnome en double.


Si je le lance avec -v, il me dit :
update-menus[17947]: Lecture des fichiers d'entrées de menu dans  
/etc/menu/.

update-menus[17947]: 0 entrées de menu ont été trouvées (0 au total).
update-menus[17947]: Lecture des fichiers d'entrées de menu dans  
/usr/lib/menu/.update-menus[17947]: 312 entrées de menu ont été  
trouvées (312 au total).
update-menus[17947]: Lecture des fichiers d'entrées de menu dans  
/usr/share/menu/.
update-menus[17947]: 312 entrées de menu ont été trouvées (624 au  
total).
update-menus[17947]: Lecture des fichiers d'entrées de menu dans  
/usr/share/menu/default/.
update-menus[17947]: 313 entrées de menu ont été trouvées (937 au  
total).
update-menus[17947]: Lancement de « menu-methods » dans  
/home/jean-luc/.menu-methods/.


/etc/menu est vide
/usr/lib/menu contient bien toutes les entrées
/usr/share/menu ... ne contient que 2 entrées, je ne vois pas pourquoi  
il ajoute toutes ces entrées



Je dois lancer update-menus -menufilesdir /usr/lib/menu pour n'avoir  
les entrées qu'en un seul exemplaire..


Idées ?

Jean-Luc


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Re: update-menus bozuldu.

2005-01-24 Thread Emre Kadolu
Banada birinin sisteme girip de dosyalar alabilir hale getirmi 
olabilecei pek mantkl gelmiyor akas nasl bir manyak byle bii 
yapar ki ?
ama ben /usr dizinindeki izinlerle hi oynamadm. geriye betikleri 
kontrol etmek kalyor bo bi zamanmda o betikleri kontrol edip bii 
bulursam buraya yazarm
ama ok sama bir durum.

Ali Alphan Bayazit wrote:
On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 12:50 +0200, Emre Kadolu wrote:
 

Evet dosyalar allabilir durumdaym ama ben o dosyalarla oynamadm
ki.. nasl durduk yerde o dosyalar allabilir duruma gelmi
olabilir ? sisteme biri mi girdi acaba? 

   

bilemem, 
chkrootkit tarzi bir guvenlik uygulamasi yuklemek isteyebilirsiniz. tabi
akilli bir rootkiti yakalayabilmesi icin bir sebep gormuyorum,
(icinizde en ufak bir suphe varsa, bildiginiz uzere bunun tek yolu
tekrar yuklemek)

sifrenizin emre82 olmadigini kabul edersek, guncellenen bir debiana
girebilecek bir adamin, yanlislikla /usr/lib/menu altindaki dosyalari
calistirilabilir yapmasi pek mantikli gelmiyor.
Isterseniz /usr/lib altindaki diger dizinileri ve dosyalari da kontrol
edin, belki de basit bir chmod -R +x 'in gazabina ugramissiniz. 

ben olsam bir de sonuncu basarili update-menu islemi sonrasi yuklenen
(ozellikle resmi olmayan) paketlerin betiklerini incelerdim.
kolay gelsin
 


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Re: update-menus et synaptic

2004-08-10 Thread Eddy
Le Tue, 10 Aug 2004 02:10:07 +0200, Raphaël SurcouF Bordet a
écrit :

 Le lundi 09 août 2004 à 19:24 +0200, Eddy a écrit :
 
 Quand j'installe ou supprime des paquets à l'aide de synaptic, les menus 
 ne sont pas mis à jour : il faut que j'exécute update-menus manuellement. 
 Par contre cela va tout seul via sudo apt-get install.
 
 S'agit-il d'une feature de synaptic ou ai-je loupé quelque chose ?
 
 Je ne pense pas que ça vienne spécialement de synaptic, as-tu essayé de
 reproduire l'anomalie avec apt ou aptitude ?

Avec apt, update-menus est exécuté normalement.
Aptitude : j'avoue avoir du mal à utiliser ce genre d'interface.

 
 P.S. 
 Je ne sais si c'est important ou pas mais je ne suis évidemment pas 
 connecté en root quand je lance synaptic (et n'ai même pas envie 
 d'essayer) : je le lance via le menu en utilisateur normal puis le mot de 
 passe est demandé. 
 
 Normal, car le processus nécessite les privilèges de l'utilisateur root
 mais si tu prends la peine de le vérifier par la suite, il est bel et
 bien root:
 $ ps auxf
 ...
 root  6486 22.6  8.0 28752 20680 ?   R01:58   0:05 synaptic

Oui, on est bien d'accord.
Je me demande toutefois si la façon d'obtenir les droits root (et la
préservation ou non des variables d'environnement) ne pourrait pas
influencer le résultat d'update-menus mais là je patauge un peu dans ces
notions.

En fait ce que je voulais simplement savoir c'est si d'autres avaient
aussi ce comportement de synaptic (la réponse de Krys montre que je ne
suis pas seul) et s'ils avaient trouver une parade ou s'en accomodaient.

Encore merci.

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update-menus et synaptic

2004-08-09 Thread Eddy
Bonjour,

J'ai installé Debian Sarge il y a quelques jours et vous lis depuis sur 
usenet.  

Quand j'installe ou supprime des paquets à l'aide de synaptic, les menus 
ne sont pas mis à jour : il faut que j'exécute update-menus manuellement. 
Par contre cela va tout seul via sudo apt-get install.

S'agit-il d'une feature de synaptic ou ai-je loupé quelque chose ?

P.S. 
Je ne sais si c'est important ou pas mais je ne suis évidemment pas 
connecté en root quand je lance synaptic (et n'ai même pas envie 
d'essayer) : je le lance via le menu en utilisateur normal puis le mot de 
passe est demandé. 

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Re: update-menus et synaptic

2004-08-09 Thread \SurcouF\ Bordet
Le lundi 09 août 2004 à 19:24 +0200, Eddy a écrit :

 Quand j'installe ou supprime des paquets à l'aide de synaptic, les menus 
 ne sont pas mis à jour : il faut que j'exécute update-menus manuellement. 
 Par contre cela va tout seul via sudo apt-get install.
 
 S'agit-il d'une feature de synaptic ou ai-je loupé quelque chose ?

Je ne pense pas que ça vienne spécialement de synaptic, as-tu essayé de
reproduire l'anomalie avec apt ou aptitude ?

 P.S. 
 Je ne sais si c'est important ou pas mais je ne suis évidemment pas 
 connecté en root quand je lance synaptic (et n'ai même pas envie 
 d'essayer) : je le lance via le menu en utilisateur normal puis le mot de 
 passe est demandé. 

Normal, car le processus nécessite les privilèges de l'utilisateur root
mais si tu prends la peine de le vérifier par la suite, il est bel et
bien root:
$ ps auxf
...
root  6486 22.6  8.0 28752 20680 ?   R01:58   0:05 synaptic

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Re: update-menus / kde 3.2.2

2004-05-04 Thread Jeremy MONNET
Quoting Tiago Saboga [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Saturday 01 May 2004 14:53, Jeremy Monnet wrote:
  Bonjour,
 
  dans le kcontrol-center (centre de configuration) bureau  tableau de
  bord  editer le menu K
  tu peux choisir tous ce qui concerne le menu K, quitte a recréer
  certains raccourcis.
 
  Jeremy
 
 Merci,
 mais je suppose que ce sera à refaire lors d'un upgrade...
 J'aimerais savoir si l'outil update-menus ne marche plus pour kde ou si c'est
 
 un bogue...
 
 Tiago.
 
 
Je n'ai jamais eu ce problème (sauf sous mdk, mais c'etait un problème récurrent
de la distrib'), donc je suppose que tu devrais aller vérifier les rapports de
bugs sur debian.org, et eventuellement en faire un  Parce que les applis ne
devraient pas disparaitre du menu, sauf si elles ont été supprimées ;)

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Re: update-menus / kde 3.2.2

2004-05-02 Thread Tiago Saboga
On Saturday 01 May 2004 14:53, Jeremy Monnet wrote:
 Bonjour,

 dans le kcontrol-center (centre de configuration) bureau  tableau de
 bord  editer le menu K
 tu peux choisir tous ce qui concerne le menu K, quitte a recréer
 certains raccourcis.

 Jeremy

Merci,
mais je suppose que ce sera à refaire lors d'un upgrade...
J'aimerais savoir si l'outil update-menus ne marche plus pour kde ou si c'est 
un bogue...

Tiago.



Re: update-menus / kde 3.2.2

2004-05-01 Thread Jeremy Monnet
Bonjour,

dans le kcontrol-center (centre de configuration) bureau  tableau de
bord  editer le menu K
tu peux choisir tous ce qui concerne le menu K, quitte a recréer
certains raccourcis.

Jeremy

On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 23:45, Tiago Saboga wrote:
 J'ai installé kde 3.2.2 sur sarge, et je n'ai plus tous mes logiciels dans 
 les 
 menus. J'ai essayé update-menus, mais après lire quelques docs j'ai vérifié 
 qu'il n'y a pas de script pour kde dans mon /etc/menu-methods. Est-ce que 
 cette méthode n'est plus valable (pourtant, kde enregistre bien ses logiciels 
 à /usr/lib/menu/ , pour qu'ils soient trouvés par update-menus)? 
 
 J'ai essayé aussi le Kapplications (je ne suis plus sûr de ce nom), qui a 
 retrouvé 26 autres logiciels, mais pas encore tous (et notamment plusieurs 
 jeux en X).
 
 Merci
 
 tiago.
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update-menus / kde 3.2.2

2004-04-30 Thread Tiago Saboga
J'ai installé kde 3.2.2 sur sarge, et je n'ai plus tous mes logiciels dans les 
menus. J'ai essayé update-menus, mais après lire quelques docs j'ai vérifié 
qu'il n'y a pas de script pour kde dans mon /etc/menu-methods. Est-ce que 
cette méthode n'est plus valable (pourtant, kde enregistre bien ses logiciels 
à /usr/lib/menu/ , pour qu'ils soient trouvés par update-menus)? 

J'ai essayé aussi le Kapplications (je ne suis plus sûr de ce nom), qui a 
retrouvé 26 autres logiciels, mais pas encore tous (et notamment plusieurs 
jeux en X).

Merci

tiago.



What is this? A bug in update-menus???

2004-04-08 Thread John Foster
louiloui:/# update-menus
Unknown error, message=replacewith($string, $replace, $with): $replace and 
$with must have the same length.
install-menu: /etc/menu-methods/freedesktop-desktop-entry-spec-dirs: aborting
update-menus[12361]: 
Script /etc/menu-methods/freedesktop-desktop-entry-spec-dirs returned error 
status 1.
Unknown error, message=replacewith($string, $replace, $with): $replace and 
$with must have the same length.
install-menu: /etc/menu-methods/freedesktop-desktop-entry-spec-apps: aborting
update-menus[12361]: 
Script /etc/menu-methods/freedesktop-desktop-entry-spec-apps returned error 
status 1.
louiloui:/#

I am getting the above message when I run update-menus as root. Also the menu 
update application in KDE3.2 is not working either. I suspect they are the 
same issue. Any ideas?
Thanks!

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Re: What is this? A bug in update-menus???

2004-04-08 Thread Haim Ashkenazi
John Foster wrote:

 louiloui:/# update-menus
 Unknown error, message=replacewith($string, $replace, $with): $replace and
 $with must have the same length.
 install-menu: /etc/menu-methods/freedesktop-desktop-entry-spec-dirs:
 aborting update-menus[12361]:
 Script /etc/menu-methods/freedesktop-desktop-entry-spec-dirs returned
 error status 1.
 Unknown error, message=replacewith($string, $replace, $with): $replace and
 $with must have the same length.
 install-menu: /etc/menu-methods/freedesktop-desktop-entry-spec-apps:
 aborting update-menus[12361]:
 Script /etc/menu-methods/freedesktop-desktop-entry-spec-apps returned
 error status 1.
 louiloui:/#
 
 I am getting the above message when I run update-menus as root. Also the
 menu update application in KDE3.2 is not working either. I suspect they
 are the same issue. Any ideas?
see:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=237820

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Re: comment utiliser update-menus avec les logiciels installes en local?

2004-01-20 Thread eric



Pamplemousse Mk2 wrote:


Bonjour,


Bonsoir



j'aimerai ajouter mes logiciels installes a partir de sources compilees
(donc sans package) dans les menus de mes window manager preferes, et
notamment Fluxbox. J'ai lu qu'il faut utiliser update-menus. J'ai donc
fait comme decrit dans la doc:

- creer un repertoire ~/.menu

- cd ~/.menu

- creer un fichier pour mon logiciel titi, qui s'appellera par ex titi

- l'editer et mettre cette ligne:
?package(local.titi):command=/usr/bin/titi section=Apps/Viewers
needs=X11 title=Titi

Tu dois avoir une seule ligne, sinon il faut mettre un antislash à la 
fin de la ligne


?package(local.titi):command=/usr/bin/titi section=Apps/Viewers\
needs=X11 title=Titi


- lancer la commande update-menus.

 





Re: comment utiliser update-menus avec les logiciels installes en local?

2004-01-20 Thread Pamplemousse Mk2
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 19:28:51 +0100
eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tu dois avoir une seule ligne, sinon il faut mettre un antislash à la 
 fin de la ligne
 
 ?package(local.titi):command=/usr/bin/titi section=Apps/Viewers\
 needs=X11 title=Titi


Normalement tout tient sur une seule ligne, et je sais qu'il faut
utiliser \ lorsqu'il y a des retours a la ligne. En fait, c'est mon
logiciel de mail qui l'a mis a la ligne suivante.

J'ai quant meme reformate mon fichier en rajoutant des retours a la
ligne et des \ mais pas plus de succes.

Ciao.



comment utiliser update-menus avec les logiciels installes en local?

2004-01-19 Thread Pamplemousse Mk2
Bonjour,

j'aimerai ajouter mes logiciels installes a partir de sources compilees
(donc sans package) dans les menus de mes window manager preferes, et
notamment Fluxbox. J'ai lu qu'il faut utiliser update-menus. J'ai donc
fait comme decrit dans la doc:

- creer un repertoire ~/.menu

- cd ~/.menu

- creer un fichier pour mon logiciel titi, qui s'appellera par ex titi

- l'editer et mettre cette ligne:
?package(local.titi):command=/usr/bin/titi section=Apps/Viewers
needs=X11 title=Titi

- lancer la commande update-menus.

Mais rien n'apparait dans le menu. J'ai lance update-menus aussi bien en
root qu'en user, mais pas mieux.

Qqn pourrait me dire ou est mon erreur? 
Merci



problemas update-menus

2003-11-13 Thread Adriano Brand
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/knoppix# dpkg -i --force-all
/var/cache/apt/archives/joe_2.8-23_i386.deb
(Reading database ... 49463 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace joe 2.8-21 (using .../archives/joe_2.8-23_i386.deb)
...
Unpacking replacement joe ...
/var/lib/dpkg/info/joe.postrm: line 3: /usr/bin/update-menus: Permission
denied
dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 1
dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/postrm: line 3: /usr/bin/update-menus: Permission
denied
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/joe_2.8-23_i386.deb
(--install):
 subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 1
/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/postrm: line 3: /usr/bin/update-menus: Permission
denied
dpkg: error while cleaning up:
 subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/joe_2.8-23_i386.deb



Re: update-menus problem: Aborted, following acct install

2003-03-13 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 06:35:39PM +, Karsten M. Self wrote:
 System is testing, hppa.  I've just committed the glibc update in the
 past few days.
 
 After installing acct, postinst failed on update-menus.
 
 Running update-menus manually returns:
 
 # update-menus
 Aborted

menu was broken on hppa until very recently. If the version in unstable
doesn't fix it, file a bug report.

(See #184562.)

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update-menus y blackbox...

2003-02-13 Thread Maximiliano Alonzo
Hola lista:
Si quiero agregar una opcion al menu que utilizo en blackbox, como debo 
de hacer con el update-menus ya que al editar el archivo blackbox-menu me 
encuentro que hay un comentario que dice que no sea editado manualmente sino 
que utilice dicha herramienta.
No se si me he hecho entender, desde ya mu agradecido.
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Small problem with update-menus

2002-11-17 Thread Cam Ellison
When I run it, it mostly works, except for the following:

Could not open dir KMail/
/etc/menu-methods//afterstep: Aborting
Update-menus[11613]: Script /etc/menu-methods//afterstep returned error status 1.

There is a KMail subdirectory (in fact, there are 2, one nested inside
the other).  The inclusion of the slash seems odd.

I'm running KDE3 on a mostly testing system.

I can't track down where this is coming from.  Has anyone any ideas
about this, please?

TIA for any help

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update-menus als user?

2002-11-04 Thread sigsegv
Hallo Liste.

Ich habe hier und zuhause ein Problem.

Ich moechte gerne das Debian eigene Menusystem benutzen. 
Dafuer habe ich schon das Verz. .menu erstellt, mit einer
Beispieldatei.
Nun erwarte ich nach Anleitung, dass mir auch eine je nach WM
Konfigurationsdatei angelegt wird. 
Leider ist dies nicht der Fall. 

Ich konnte nur ueber Umwege eine Konfigdatei erzeugen, durch erzeugen
der date ./menu-methods/cat. Dann habe ich die date /tmp/menu-stdin
/etc/menu-methods uebergeben/. Schwups da wurde die Datei erzeugt. 

Kann mir jemand helfen?

Ciao

otto


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Re: Windowmaker Menüs und update-menus

2002-11-01 Thread Gerhard Messner
HI!

vom verzeichnis /usr/lib/menu die datei mutt ins verzeichnis /etc/menu
kopieren. dann die kopierte datei öffnen, anpassen und speichern.

so kannst du auch neue menueinträge hinzufügen, einfach im verzeichnis
/etc/menu eine neue textdatei anlegen und dann anpassen.

dann update-menus ausführen und einen wmaker restart durchführen...


gruss
gerhard



Am Fre, 2002-11-01 um 01.48 schrieb Andreas Pakulat:
 Hi,
 
 vielleicht kann mir hier ja jemand helfen. Ich möchte gerne selbst
 konfigurierte Windowmakermenüs nutzen, also mit eigenen Shortcuts und
 auch manchmal kleinen Abwandlungen bei den Befehlen (z.B. mutt mit mutt
 -y aufrufen). Trotzdem will ich das update-menus Zeug nutzen können, so
 daß neue Progs automatisch ins Menü kommen. Ist das irgendwie möglich
 oder muss ich doch das WM-Menü per Hand pflegen?
 
 Andreas
 
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Re: Windowmaker Menüs und update-menus

2002-11-01 Thread Juergen Salk
* Andreas Pakulat [EMAIL PROTECTED] [021101 09:43]:

 Ich möchte gerne selbst konfigurierte Windowmakermenüs nutzen, also
 mit eigenen Shortcuts und auch manchmal kleinen Abwandlungen bei den
 Befehlen (z.B. mutt mit mutt -y aufrufen). Trotzdem will ich das
 update-menus Zeug nutzen können, so daß neue Progs automatisch ins
 Menü kommen. Ist das irgendwie möglich oder muss ich doch das WM-Menü
 per Hand pflegen?

Du kannst Dir mit WPrefs ein eigenes Applications Menue 
zusammenbasteln. Unter 'Sample Submenus' gibt es ein 'Debian-Menu' 
zur Auswahl, das sich als Submenue einbinden lässt. Dieses
Submenue wird dann vom Debian Menu System versorgt.

Beste Grüsse - Jürgen


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Re: Windowmaker Menüs und update-menus

2002-11-01 Thread Thomas Templin
On Friday 01 November 2002 15:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Da die Tastenkürzel in der
 menu-Struktur (noch?) nicht unterstützt werden werde ich wohl
 den hier gemachten Vorschlag umsetzen. Dann kann ich auch ein
 individuelles Menu pflegen, das mi einen schnelleren Zugriff auf
 die häufig benutzten Dinge bietet ohne das ich die installierten
 Apps aus den Augen verliere.
Welche Tastenkürzel werden nicht unterstützt?
Ich hab mir mit WPrefs die Funktionen zur Steuerung der Fenster, 
maximieren, auf\zu rollen, das Starten von Anwendungen... auf die 
Tasten mit dem zerbröselnden Firmenlogo gestellt und das 
funktioniert hier prächtigst, und das seit der 0.60 von 
WindowMaker.
Tschüss,
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Re: Windowmaker Menüs und update-menus

2002-11-01 Thread Maik Holtkamp
Hy,

Am 02/11/01@15:39 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On 01.Nov 2002 - 14:40:24, Juergen Salk wrote:
  * Andreas Pakulat [EMAIL PROTECTED] [021101 09:43]:
  
   Ich möchte gerne selbst konfigurierte Windowmakermenüs nutzen, also
   mit eigenen Shortcuts und auch manchmal kleinen Abwandlungen bei den
   Befehlen (z.B. mutt mit mutt -y aufrufen). Trotzdem will ich das
   update-menus Zeug nutzen können, so daß neue Progs automatisch ins
   Menü kommen. Ist das irgendwie möglich oder muss ich doch das WM-Menü
   per Hand pflegen?
  
  Du kannst Dir mit WPrefs ein eigenes Applications Menue 
  zusammenbasteln. Unter 'Sample Submenus' gibt es ein 'Debian-Menu' 
  zur Auswahl, das sich als Submenue einbinden lässt. Dieses
  Submenue wird dann vom Debian Menu System versorgt.
 
 Erstmal ein Danke an alle die geholfen haben. Da die Tastenkürzel in der
 menu-Struktur (noch?) nicht unterstützt werden werde ich wohl den hier
 gemachten Vorschlag umsetzen.

Bahnhof?

Bei mir funktionieren alle Shortcuts, die definiert wurden.
Vielleicht probierst Du auch mal wmakerconf (IMHO netter als
wprefs).

BTW: Wie ist denn diese mail in der Liste gelandet, mutt kannte kein
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Windowmaker Menüs und update-menus

2002-10-31 Thread Andreas Pakulat
Hi,

vielleicht kann mir hier ja jemand helfen. Ich möchte gerne selbst
konfigurierte Windowmakermenüs nutzen, also mit eigenen Shortcuts und
auch manchmal kleinen Abwandlungen bei den Befehlen (z.B. mutt mit mutt
-y aufrufen). Trotzdem will ich das update-menus Zeug nutzen können, so
daß neue Progs automatisch ins Menü kommen. Ist das irgendwie möglich
oder muss ich doch das WM-Menü per Hand pflegen?

Andreas

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o selige Epoche!
Ein Hälmlein will zum Lichte nahn
aus einem Astwurmloche.

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Und schaukelt bald drin her.
Mir ist beinah, Ich wäre wer,
der ich doch nicht mehr bin . .

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Re: Windowmaker Menüs und update-menus

2002-10-31 Thread Martin Reinke
Hallo Andreas,
On Fri Nov 01, 2002 at 01:48:1036111698AM +0100, Andreas Pakulat wrote:
 Hi,
 
 vielleicht kann mir hier ja jemand helfen. Ich möchte gerne selbst
 konfigurierte Windowmakermenüs nutzen, also mit eigenen Shortcuts und
 auch manchmal kleinen Abwandlungen bei den Befehlen (z.B. mutt mit mutt
 -y aufrufen). Trotzdem will ich das update-menus Zeug nutzen können, so
 daß neue Progs automatisch ins Menü kommen. Ist das irgendwie möglich
 oder muss ich doch das WM-Menü per Hand pflegen?

schau dir mal menu.posthook und menu.prehook an

 
 Andreas


Martin


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Re: Gnome + Nautilus + update-menus

2002-09-30 Thread Ruediger Noack

 --- Michael Mersch [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: 
 
 ich hatte auch Probleme mit dem doppelten Desktop und habe es auch mit
 apt-get --purge remove gmc hin bekommen.

Mein Hauptproblem (fehlende Panels) hatte dann doch nichts mit der
Kombination Nautilus/gmc zu tun. Nach einigem Hin- und Hertesten habe ich
dann das komplette $HOME/.gnome von einer Sicherung geholt (nur panel und
panel.d zurückholen behob das Problem nicht). Irgendwann hatte ich keine
Lust mehr für eine genaue Untersuchung.

gmc wollte ich nicht komplett entfernen, weil ich bisher bei beiden Vor-
und Nachteile sehe (muss noch bisschen testen). Leider kann man wohl den
gmc-Desktop nicht beim Start von Gnome verhindern (diverse Aussagen in
ML's - oder hat doch jemand eine Lösung dafür?), sondern nur den von
Nautilus und den finde ich bisher einfach angenehmer.

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Re: Gnome + Nautilus + update-menus

2002-09-29 Thread Michael Mersch

Danke,

ich hatte auch Probleme mit dem doppelten Desktop und habe es auch mit
apt-get --purge remove gmc hin bekommen.

bis dann
michael





On Friday 27 September 2002 08:21, Ruediger Noack wrote:
 Hallo Marcus

  --- Marcus Fihlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
  vielleicht hilft es Dir weiter - ich hatte dieses Verhalten beobachtet,
  als ich den gmc zum ersten mal startete. Er hatte einen weiteren Desktop
  angelegt, der sich mit dem von Nautilus überdeckte.

 [...]

  Vielleicht ist das ein Ansatzpunkt für Dich.

 gmc riecht sogar nach Volltreffer, danke.

 Gruß
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Gnome + Nautilus + update-menus

2002-09-26 Thread Ruediger Noack

Hallo Leute,

ich habe vor ein paar Tagen (nachdem ich mir mit Gnome und Natilus aus 
woody im Laufe der Zeit einen angemessenen Desktop zusammengebastelt 
habe) den Fehler gemacht, erstmals update-menus aufzurufen. Das Ergebnis 
ist verheerend:

Bei Ausführung des Kommandos wurden mir in der Gnome-Session neue 
Icons auf den Desktop geschaufelt, die teilweise die von Nautilus 
überlagert haben. Naja...
Beim nächsten Start von Gnome sieht man erst einen Desktop mit den neuen 
Icons, dann einen leeren, auf den dann die Nautilus-Icons *langsam* 
erscheinen. Die Startzeit von Gnome hat sich dadurch auf ein Vielfaches 
verlängert. Danach schien aber alles ok zu sein, also habe ich diesen 
Effekt erst einmal nicht weiter beachtet.
Heute war nun das Chaos perfekt. Mehrfacher (Re-)Start von gdm, ohne 
Änderung. Der Nautilus-Desktop wird zwar noch ordentlich hingezaubert 
(natürlich saulangsam), aber ich bekomme nicht ein einziges Panel zu 
sehen. Wie eine Endlosschleife sieht es aber auch nicht aus, denn die 
CPU idlet so vor sich hin.

menu komplett zu deinstallieren ist ja wohl nicht möglich 
(Abhängigkeiten), deshalb habe ich diverse logfiles untersucht, ohne 
dass mir etwas besonderes aufgefallen wäre. Also habe ich erst einmal 
einige Gnome-Unterverzeichnisse in meinem $HOME umbenannt. Damit kann 
ich Gnome (auch wieder schön schnell) starten. Allerdings ist damit 
natürlich auch mein angepasster Desktop im Eimer. :-(

Kann mir einer sagen, wie ich meinen Desktop wieder auf den gewünschten 
Stand bringe? Ich habe noch einige Sicherungen der vorhergehenden Tage 
rumliegen, aber was darf ich nicht zurückspielen, damit der Desktop 
wieder ordentlich ist? Wenn einer weiß, welche Datei ich wie beackern 
muss, versuche ich es natürlich auch händisch.

Kann man update-menus beibringen, die Finger vom Desktop zu lassen und 
nur die Menü-Eintrage zu ergänzen?

Gruß
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Re: Gnome + Nautilus + update-menus

2002-09-26 Thread Hans-Georg Bork

Moin,

On Thu, 2002-09-26 at 19:50, Ruediger Noack wrote:
 [...]
 Kann man update-menus beibringen, die Finger vom Desktop zu lassen und 
 nur die Menü-Eintrage zu ergänzen?
 

man update-menus
man menufile

schon gelesen?

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Re: Gnome + Nautilus + update-menus

2002-09-26 Thread Ruediger Noack

Hans-Georg Bork wrote:

man update-menus
man menufile

schon gelesen?

  

Hallo Hans-Georg,

sagen wir überflogen. Aber ich habe weder einen Ansatz zur 
Wechselwirkung mit Nautilus gesehen noch wie ich diesen doppelten 
Desktop wieder rückgängig mache. :-( Die verschiedenen genannten 
menu-files  haben mich auf die Schnelle auch nicht weiter gebracht.
Vor allem sehe ich keinen Hinweis darauf, was diese Menues mit dem 
doppelten Desktop und deren Icons zu tun haben.

Liegt vielleicht auch daran, mir jetzt erst einmal einiges wieder so 
hinzubiegen, dass ich einigermaßen bequem lesen kann. Ohne die Augen in 
die Hand nehmen zu müssen... Mehrere Terminalfenster mit Scrollbar sind 
einfach angenehmer als ASCII-Consolen. ;-)

Also wenn Du da noch ein Stichwort hättest, wäre ich echt dankbar!

Gruß
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Re: Gnome + Nautilus + update-menus

2002-09-26 Thread Marcus Fihlon

Am Don, 2002-09-26 um 19.50 schrieb Ruediger Noack:

 Bei Ausführung des Kommandos wurden mir in der Gnome-Session neue 
 Icons auf den Desktop geschaufelt, die teilweise die von Nautilus 
 überlagert haben. Naja...

Hi,

vielleicht hilft es Dir weiter - ich hatte dieses Verhalten beobachtet,
als ich den gmc zum ersten mal startete. Er hatte einen weiteren Desktop
angelegt, der sich mit dem von Nautilus überdeckte. Da ich mich damals
damit noch nicht auskannte, habe ich ihn einfach weggeputzt:

root: apt-get --purge remove gmc

Vielleicht ist das ein Ansatzpunkt für Dich.

hth
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Re: Gnome + Nautilus + update-menus

2002-09-26 Thread Ruediger Noack

Hallo Marcus

 --- Marcus Fihlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: 
 
 vielleicht hilft es Dir weiter - ich hatte dieses Verhalten beobachtet,
 als ich den gmc zum ersten mal startete. Er hatte einen weiteren Desktop
 angelegt, der sich mit dem von Nautilus überdeckte. 
[...]
 Vielleicht ist das ein Ansatzpunkt für Dich.

gmc riecht sogar nach Volltreffer, danke.

Gruß
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NFS + update-menus will cause problems?

2002-06-27 Thread leoboiko
Our application server is running sid (ok, I know this is risky).
Some weeks ago  we changed the root filesystem to a NFS partition. Now
the menu utilities aren't working. I tried to reinstall the menu
package; the script hangs in update-menus. These are the last strace
lines: 

stat64(/var/lib/dpkg/info/menu.postinst, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755,
st_size=677, ...}) = 0
fork()  = 4673
rt_sigaction(SIGQUIT, {SIG_IGN}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {SIG_IGN}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
wait4(4673, open(/var/lib/dpkg/lock, O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC, 0660) = 3
fcntl64(3, F_SETLK, {type=F_WRLCK, whence=SEEK_SET, start=0, len=0}) = 0
fcntl64(3, F_SETLK, {type=F_UNLCK, whence=SEEK_SET, start=0, len=0}) = 0
close(3)= 0
getuid32()  = 0
open(/var/run/update-menus.pid, O_WRONLY|O_CREAT, 0644) = 3
flock(3, LOCK_EX|LOCK_NB)   = 0
--- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) ---
+++ killed by SIGSEGV +++

And the script keep waiting... the file /var/run/update-menus.pid
is created without any problems. The manpage for  flock(2) says it 
doesn't work over NFS, maybe there is a relation?
Running gdb /usr/bin/update-menus, I get:

(gdb) break flock
Breakpoint 1 at 0x804a58c
(gdb) r
Starting program: /usr/bin/update-menus 
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no
debugging symbols found)...Breakpoint 1 at 0x401475c0
(no debugging symbols found)...
Breakpoint 1, 0x401475c0 in flock () from /lib/libc.so.6
(gdb) n
Single stepping until exit from function flock, 
which has no line number information.
0x08068ad3 in strcpy ()
(gdb) n
Single stepping until exit from function strcpy, 
which has no line number information.

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x4004101a in ostream::operator () from
/usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3

Can anyone help? I'm lost...
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users and menus, update-menus

2002-06-15 Thread Rick Pasotto
Where/when does gnome get its menus? If I make a change to /etc/menu
and run update-menus as root I see the changes immediately in the
gnome/debian menus. However if I make a change to ~/.menu and run
update-menus as a user I do *not* see that anything has happened.

Also, the 'sort' option doesn't seem to work. In the Apps/Programming
section all the entries are uppercase except 'elk' so 'elk' shows last
in the menu. Adding 'sort=ELK' to the menu entry doesn't change its
position. 

Have I misunderstood how menus are supposed to work?

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update-menus for user?

2001-10-29 Thread Morten Bo Johansen
Hi,

I only have access to the menus generated by update-menus if I
start wmaker as root.

When starting wmaker as a normal user no menus have been
generated.

I have tried running update-menus both as root and as user.

What will I have to do to make them available to the normal user?



TIA,

Morten

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Re: update-menus for user?

2001-10-29 Thread Siert
On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 01:40:43PM +0100, Morten Bo Johansen wrote:

cut
 What will I have to do to make them available to the normal user?

Did you tried `update-menus -v` to see where it goes wrong? I think the
normal user is NOT allowed to read the files needed to generate the menu
(/usr/lib/menu, /etc/menu, /etc/menu-methods). 

With kind regards, Siert



Re: update-menus for user?

2001-10-29 Thread Morten Bo Johansen
Siert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 01:40:43PM +0100, Morten Bo Johansen wrote:
 
 cut
  What will I have to do to make them available to the normal user?
 
 Did you tried `update-menus -v` to see where it goes wrong? I think the
 normal user is NOT allowed to read the files needed to generate the menu
 (/usr/lib/menu, /etc/menu, /etc/menu-methods). 

Nothing went wrong actually. I just had to remove
~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu, then the menus generated by
update-menus appeared but this has the downside that now I
can't add my own customizations with hotkeys etc. through the
wmaker configuration tool, wprefs, so I think I'm gonna dump
the Debian menu-system unless somebody has an idea how to
overcome this.


Regards,

Morten

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Re: update-menus for user?

2001-10-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 02:46:50PM +0100, Siert wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 01:40:43PM +0100, Morten Bo Johansen wrote:
  What will I have to do to make them available to the normal user?
 
 Did you tried `update-menus -v` to see where it goes wrong? I think the
 normal user is NOT allowed to read the files needed to generate the menu
 (/usr/lib/menu, /etc/menu, /etc/menu-methods). 

That would be a bug (see policy 11.9, Permissions and owners).

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Re: update-menus for user?

2001-10-29 Thread Marc Wilson
On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 03:30:21PM +0100, Morten Bo Johansen wrote:
 Nothing went wrong actually. I just had to remove
 ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu, then the menus generated by
 update-menus appeared but this has the downside that now I
 can't add my own customizations with hotkeys etc. through the
 wmaker configuration tool, wprefs, so I think I'm gonna dump
 the Debian menu-system unless somebody has an idea how to
 overcome this.

What's to overcome?  Create whatever you like as your WindowMaker menu,
include the Debian menu hook within it.  That way you have the best of both
worlds.

I create a menu that has what *I* use most on it easily accessible, and
then include the Debian one so that I can get to the rest of the stuff
installed on the box.

Note also that you could always just do menu overrides and change the
Debian menu around however you wanted.  See 'man menu' for details.

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Re: update-menus for user?

2001-10-29 Thread Morten Bo Johansen
Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 03:30:21PM +0100, Morten Bo Johansen wrote:

  Nothing went wrong actually. I just had to remove
  ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu, then the menus generated by
  update-menus appeared but this has the downside that now I
  can't add my own customizations with hotkeys etc. through the
  wmaker configuration tool, wprefs, so I think I'm gonna dump
  the Debian menu-system unless somebody has an idea how to
  overcome this.
 
 What's to overcome?  Create whatever you like as your
 WindowMaker menu, include the Debian menu hook within it.  That
 way you have the best of both worlds.

I have tried placing this one

  /etc/X11/WindowMaker/menu.hook

at the beginning of my own customized WMRootMenu, as well as at
the end of it and also inside the first brace for good measure
- but I get nothing but the menu generated by Debian, i.e. my
own menu entries are not there.

Is it indeed the right hook and if so where should I place it?


 I create a menu that has what *I* use most on it easily
 accessible, and then include the Debian one so that I can get
 to the rest of the stuff installed on the box.

That's what I'd like! ;-)


Regards,

Morten


PS: Sorry for saying that I would dump the debian menus. One
should not use such offensive wording about the good work that
others are doing, but it was out of moment's frustration.



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Re: Agregar menues de kde y gnome (update-menus?)

2001-09-20 Thread Faro
... y entonces Santiago Pastorino escribió:
 Alguien sabe como se pueden agregar los menues de gnome y kde a los de
 wmaker, porque wmaker por defecto me trae solamente los debian-menues
 y cada vez que quiero usar un programa de kde o gnome tengo que ir a una
 xterm y ejecutar el comando, que es un poco aburridor.

Debes tener una aplicación llamada WPrefs. Desde esta es muy fácil
añadir menús existentes o modificar/crear nuevos. Lo que no se es
si el formato de los menus de gnome y kde son compatibles para
añadirlos directamente.

En todo caso, en los debian-menus se añaden taambién los programas
de gnome y kde. Tal vez te falte un update-menus para actualizar,
aunque esto siempre lo hace debian por mi cada vez que instalo una
aplicación.

Suerte, y si no edita tu propia entrada de menu con las opciones
que más utilices, que es lo más práctico para no perderse en la
maraña de aplicaciones que nunca usamos. ;-)

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Agregar menues de kde y gnome (update-menus?)

2001-09-19 Thread Santiago Pastorino
Alguien sabe como se pueden agregar los menues de gnome y kde a los de
wmaker, porque wmaker por defecto me trae solamente los debian-menues
y cada vez que quiero usar un programa de kde o gnome tengo que ir a una
xterm y ejecutar el comando, que es un poco aburridor.



Re: Agregar menues de kde y gnome (update-menus?)

2001-09-19 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Wed, 2001-09-19 at 20:10, Santiago Pastorino wrote:
 Alguien sabe como se pueden agregar los menues de gnome y kde a los de
 wmaker, porque wmaker por defecto me trae solamente los debian-menues
 y cada vez que quiero usar un programa de kde o gnome tengo que ir a una
 xterm y ejecutar el comando, que es un poco aburridor.
 
creo haber visto alguna vez scripts que convertian de WM-GNOME/KDE y al
reves, pero no recuerdo. Busca for freshmeat

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update-menus

2001-09-10 Thread Roger Keays

Hi,

Is there a way to tell update-menus to ignore a whole subtree of the menu?
Perhaps by changing translate_menus?

translate_menus seems to do some strange things. For example:

substitute section-section
   Apps/Math Apps/Trash
endtranslate

But the text is never substituted!

Update-menus[740]: Reading menuentryfile /usr/lib/menu/bc
Update-menus[740]: translate: var[Apps/Math] testing trans rule match
for:Apps/Math
Update-menus[740]: checking Apps/Programming  Apps/Math
Update-menus[740]: ADDING: command=/usr/bin/bc hints=Calculators
needs=text package=bc section=Apps/Math title=bc

- Roger





update-menus

2001-09-09 Thread Roger Keays

Hi,

Is there a way to tell update-menus to ignore a whole subtree of the menu?
Perhaps by changing translate_menus?

translate_menus seems to do some strange things. For example:

substitute section-section
   Apps/Math Apps/Trash
endtranslate

But the text is never substituted!

Update-menus[740]: Reading menuentryfile /usr/lib/menu/bc
Update-menus[740]: translate: var[Apps/Math] testing trans rule match
for:Apps/Math
Update-menus[740]: checking Apps/Programming  Apps/Math
Update-menus[740]: ADDING: command=/usr/bin/bc hints=Calculators
needs=text package=bc section=Apps/Math title=bc

- Roger




Re: enlightenment and update-menus

2001-09-06 Thread Haim Ashkenazi
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 04:54:41PM -0600, Adam McDaniel wrote:
 I've never touched it. This procedure works fine for me.

Great, I'll try that, thanx

Bye
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 On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 12:48:28AM +0300, Haim Ashkenazi wrote:
  On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 09:08:35AM -0600, Adam McDaniel wrote:
   actually, there's an easier way.
   
   On fresh installations of e, whenever the personal menu is missing, I 
   just hit the middle mouse button  Maintenance  Regenerate Menus,... For 
   some reason the e debs arn't smart enough (?) to do this the first time 
   it is ran, but once you generate the menus everything is made properly 
   under the .enlightenment directory
  
  and that without changing the default '/etc/menu-methods/enlightenment'
  (not even the onlyrunasroot=true setting)?
  
  Thanks
  --
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   -adam
   
   On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 01:00:19PM +0300, Haim Ashkenazi wrote:
Hi

this wasn't the problem, the problem was that update-menu didn't 
generate personalized menu (in '$HOME/.enlightenment/...'). thanks 
anyway.

if anyone's interested here's how I've solved it:

1. copied /etc/menu-methods/enlightenment to ~/.menu-methods/
2. commented out 'onlyrunasroot=true;'
3. deleted the '$HOME' from userprefix (after uncommenting it). very 
strange but it works so...
4. deleted any spaces in the section entry in my $HOME/.menu/* files


On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 08:30:06PM -0700, Junaedi Kartawijaya wrote:
 
 --- Haim Ashkenazi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  I was trying enlightenment this morning and I had
  some problems with the system menus. it would only 
  give the system menus not my personal menus
  (include $HOME/.menu/ directory).
  I played a little with 
  '/etc/menu-methods/enlightenment': commented out
  the 'onlyrunasroot' setting (what is it anyway, it
  doesn't appear in any of the other files in this 
  directory), and uncommented
  'userprefix=$HOME/.enlightenment/menus_debian/;'.
 
 I don't particularly like messing around with system
 menu. What I usually do is go to
 
   /usr/share/enlightenment/config (if it's correct)

btw, you can copy it to your $HOME/.enlightenment directory and that's 
how you'll change only your settings.

 
 There's a menu configuration there.
 
 As in E, your mouse buttons can produce different
 menus (one is E preferences), so make changes to one
 of the menu that produced by one of the mouse buttons
 when pushed. (hope not confuse you).
 
 For example, button 1 produces menu that contain
 system menu.
 
 Button 2 similar but different. So maybe you want to
 change this one.
 
 You can change what mouse button produce what menu
 also. Happy configuring ;P
 
 
 Junaedi
 
 

that's it.

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Re: enlightenment and update-menus

2001-09-05 Thread Junaedi Kartawijaya

--- Haim Ashkenazi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I was trying enlightenment this morning and I had
 some problems with the system menus. it would only 
 give the system menus not my personal menus
 (include $HOME/.menu/ directory).
 I played a little with 
 '/etc/menu-methods/enlightenment': commented out
 the 'onlyrunasroot' setting (what is it anyway, it
 doesn't appear in any of the other files in this 
 directory), and uncommented
 'userprefix=$HOME/.enlightenment/menus_debian/;'.

I don't particularly like messing around with system
menu. What I usually do is go to

  /usr/share/enlightenment/config (if it's correct)

There's a menu configuration there.

As in E, your mouse buttons can produce different
menus (one is E preferences), so make changes to one
of the menu that produced by one of the mouse buttons
when pushed. (hope not confuse you).

For example, button 1 produces menu that contain
system menu.

Button 2 similar but different. So maybe you want to
change this one.

You can change what mouse button produce what menu
also. Happy configuring ;P


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Re: enlightenment and update-menus

2001-09-05 Thread Haim Ashkenazi
Hi

this wasn't the problem, the problem was that update-menu didn't generate 
personalized menu (in '$HOME/.enlightenment/...'). thanks anyway.

if anyone's interested here's how I've solved it:

1. copied /etc/menu-methods/enlightenment to ~/.menu-methods/
2. commented out 'onlyrunasroot=true;'
3. deleted the '$HOME' from userprefix (after uncommenting it). very strange 
but it works so...
4. deleted any spaces in the section entry in my $HOME/.menu/* files


On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 08:30:06PM -0700, Junaedi Kartawijaya wrote:
 
 --- Haim Ashkenazi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  I was trying enlightenment this morning and I had
  some problems with the system menus. it would only 
  give the system menus not my personal menus
  (include $HOME/.menu/ directory).
  I played a little with 
  '/etc/menu-methods/enlightenment': commented out
  the 'onlyrunasroot' setting (what is it anyway, it
  doesn't appear in any of the other files in this 
  directory), and uncommented
  'userprefix=$HOME/.enlightenment/menus_debian/;'.
 
 I don't particularly like messing around with system
 menu. What I usually do is go to
 
   /usr/share/enlightenment/config (if it's correct)

btw, you can copy it to your $HOME/.enlightenment directory and that's how 
you'll change only your settings.

 
 There's a menu configuration there.
 
 As in E, your mouse buttons can produce different
 menus (one is E preferences), so make changes to one
 of the menu that produced by one of the mouse buttons
 when pushed. (hope not confuse you).
 
 For example, button 1 produces menu that contain
 system menu.
 
 Button 2 similar but different. So maybe you want to
 change this one.
 
 You can change what mouse button produce what menu
 also. Happy configuring ;P
 
 
 Junaedi
 
 

that's it.

Bye
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Re: enlightenment and update-menus

2001-09-05 Thread Adam McDaniel
actually, there's an easier way.

On fresh installations of e, whenever the personal menu is missing, I just hit 
the middle mouse button  Maintenance  Regenerate Menus,... For some reason 
the e debs arn't smart enough (?) to do this the first time it is ran, but once 
you generate the menus everything is made properly under the .enlightenment 
directory

-adam

On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 01:00:19PM +0300, Haim Ashkenazi wrote:
 Hi
 
 this wasn't the problem, the problem was that update-menu didn't generate 
 personalized menu (in '$HOME/.enlightenment/...'). thanks anyway.
 
 if anyone's interested here's how I've solved it:
 
 1. copied /etc/menu-methods/enlightenment to ~/.menu-methods/
 2. commented out 'onlyrunasroot=true;'
 3. deleted the '$HOME' from userprefix (after uncommenting it). very strange 
 but it works so...
 4. deleted any spaces in the section entry in my $HOME/.menu/* files
 
 
 On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 08:30:06PM -0700, Junaedi Kartawijaya wrote:
  
  --- Haim Ashkenazi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   I was trying enlightenment this morning and I had
   some problems with the system menus. it would only 
   give the system menus not my personal menus
   (include $HOME/.menu/ directory).
   I played a little with 
   '/etc/menu-methods/enlightenment': commented out
   the 'onlyrunasroot' setting (what is it anyway, it
   doesn't appear in any of the other files in this 
   directory), and uncommented
   'userprefix=$HOME/.enlightenment/menus_debian/;'.
  
  I don't particularly like messing around with system
  menu. What I usually do is go to
  
/usr/share/enlightenment/config (if it's correct)
 
 btw, you can copy it to your $HOME/.enlightenment directory and that's how 
 you'll change only your settings.
 
  
  There's a menu configuration there.
  
  As in E, your mouse buttons can produce different
  menus (one is E preferences), so make changes to one
  of the menu that produced by one of the mouse buttons
  when pushed. (hope not confuse you).
  
  For example, button 1 produces menu that contain
  system menu.
  
  Button 2 similar but different. So maybe you want to
  change this one.
  
  You can change what mouse button produce what menu
  also. Happy configuring ;P
  
  
  Junaedi
  
  
 
 that's it.
 
 Bye
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Re: enlightenment and update-menus

2001-09-05 Thread Haim Ashkenazi
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 09:08:35AM -0600, Adam McDaniel wrote:
 actually, there's an easier way.
 
 On fresh installations of e, whenever the personal menu is missing, I just 
 hit the middle mouse button  Maintenance  Regenerate Menus,... For some 
 reason the e debs arn't smart enough (?) to do this the first time it is ran, 
 but once you generate the menus everything is made properly under the 
 .enlightenment directory

and that without changing the default '/etc/menu-methods/enlightenment'
(not even the onlyrunasroot=true setting)?

Thanks
--
Haim

 
 -adam
 
 On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 01:00:19PM +0300, Haim Ashkenazi wrote:
  Hi
  
  this wasn't the problem, the problem was that update-menu didn't generate 
  personalized menu (in '$HOME/.enlightenment/...'). thanks anyway.
  
  if anyone's interested here's how I've solved it:
  
  1. copied /etc/menu-methods/enlightenment to ~/.menu-methods/
  2. commented out 'onlyrunasroot=true;'
  3. deleted the '$HOME' from userprefix (after uncommenting it). very 
  strange but it works so...
  4. deleted any spaces in the section entry in my $HOME/.menu/* files
  
  
  On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 08:30:06PM -0700, Junaedi Kartawijaya wrote:
   
   --- Haim Ashkenazi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I was trying enlightenment this morning and I had
some problems with the system menus. it would only 
give the system menus not my personal menus
(include $HOME/.menu/ directory).
I played a little with 
'/etc/menu-methods/enlightenment': commented out
the 'onlyrunasroot' setting (what is it anyway, it
doesn't appear in any of the other files in this 
directory), and uncommented
'userprefix=$HOME/.enlightenment/menus_debian/;'.
   
   I don't particularly like messing around with system
   menu. What I usually do is go to
   
 /usr/share/enlightenment/config (if it's correct)
  
  btw, you can copy it to your $HOME/.enlightenment directory and that's how 
  you'll change only your settings.
  
   
   There's a menu configuration there.
   
   As in E, your mouse buttons can produce different
   menus (one is E preferences), so make changes to one
   of the menu that produced by one of the mouse buttons
   when pushed. (hope not confuse you).
   
   For example, button 1 produces menu that contain
   system menu.
   
   Button 2 similar but different. So maybe you want to
   change this one.
   
   You can change what mouse button produce what menu
   also. Happy configuring ;P
   
   
   Junaedi
   
   
  
  that's it.
  
  Bye
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Re: enlightenment and update-menus

2001-09-05 Thread Adam McDaniel
I've never touched it. This procedure works fine for me.

On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 12:48:28AM +0300, Haim Ashkenazi wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 09:08:35AM -0600, Adam McDaniel wrote:
  actually, there's an easier way.
  
  On fresh installations of e, whenever the personal menu is missing, I just 
  hit the middle mouse button  Maintenance  Regenerate Menus,... For some 
  reason the e debs arn't smart enough (?) to do this the first time it is 
  ran, but once you generate the menus everything is made properly under the 
  .enlightenment directory
 
 and that without changing the default '/etc/menu-methods/enlightenment'
 (not even the onlyrunasroot=true setting)?
 
 Thanks
 --
 Haim
 
  
  -adam
  
  On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 01:00:19PM +0300, Haim Ashkenazi wrote:
   Hi
   
   this wasn't the problem, the problem was that update-menu didn't generate 
   personalized menu (in '$HOME/.enlightenment/...'). thanks anyway.
   
   if anyone's interested here's how I've solved it:
   
   1. copied /etc/menu-methods/enlightenment to ~/.menu-methods/
   2. commented out 'onlyrunasroot=true;'
   3. deleted the '$HOME' from userprefix (after uncommenting it). very 
   strange but it works so...
   4. deleted any spaces in the section entry in my $HOME/.menu/* files
   
   
   On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 08:30:06PM -0700, Junaedi Kartawijaya wrote:

--- Haim Ashkenazi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I was trying enlightenment this morning and I had
 some problems with the system menus. it would only 
 give the system menus not my personal menus
 (include $HOME/.menu/ directory).
 I played a little with 
 '/etc/menu-methods/enlightenment': commented out
 the 'onlyrunasroot' setting (what is it anyway, it
 doesn't appear in any of the other files in this 
 directory), and uncommented
 'userprefix=$HOME/.enlightenment/menus_debian/;'.

I don't particularly like messing around with system
menu. What I usually do is go to

  /usr/share/enlightenment/config (if it's correct)
   
   btw, you can copy it to your $HOME/.enlightenment directory and that's 
   how you'll change only your settings.
   

There's a menu configuration there.

As in E, your mouse buttons can produce different
menus (one is E preferences), so make changes to one
of the menu that produced by one of the mouse buttons
when pushed. (hope not confuse you).

For example, button 1 produces menu that contain
system menu.

Button 2 similar but different. So maybe you want to
change this one.

You can change what mouse button produce what menu
also. Happy configuring ;P


Junaedi


   
   that's it.
   
   Bye
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enlightenment and update-menus

2001-09-04 Thread Haim Ashkenazi
Hi

I was trying enlightenment this morning and I had some problems with the
system menus. it would only give the system menus not my personal menus
(include $HOME/.menu/ directory).
I played a little with '/etc/menu-methods/enlightenment': commented out
the 'onlyrunasroot' setting (what is it anyway, it doesn't appear in any
of the other files in this directory), and uncommented
'userprefix=$HOME/.enlightenment/menus_debian/;'. when trying to run
update-menu as a user now, I got this error:
cat: /home/haim//.enlightenment/menus_debian/debian_menu_sh: No such
file or directory. (which is true but there's no debian_menu_sh file
anywhere and still it updates the system menus...).

any suggestions? 
(forgot to mention: I'm running potato)

Bye
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update-menus fails for normal user, but not for root

2001-08-25 Thread Rich
Howdy all,

not too long ago, update-menus stopped working for me suddenly... now i just 
get a long string similar to the following message:

rm: cannot unlink `/usr/share/applnk/Multimedia/Debian': Permission denied 
ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/share/applnk/Multimedia/Debian/Sound' to 
`/home/rich/.kde/share/applnk/Debian/Sound': Permission denied


it still works when logged in as root, however. I have purged and 
re-installed menu, but it still does the same thing - any ideas?

thanks in advance,

rich



Re: update-menus fails for normal user, but not for root

2001-08-25 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include hallo.h
Rich wrote on Sat Aug 25, 2001 um 12:02:16PM:

 rm: cannot unlink `/usr/share/applnk/Multimedia/Debian': Permission denied 
 ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/share/applnk/Multimedia/Debian/Sound' to 
 `/home/rich/.kde/share/applnk/Debian/Sound': Permission denied

Known bug, should be fixed in the current version in Sid.

Gruss/Regards,
Eduard.
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Re: update-menus not working? Here is my info.

2001-02-11 Thread Xucaen

--- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 2001/02/10(6)/10:02, Xucaen wrote:
 
?package(jed):needs=text \
section=Apps/Editors \
title=jed \
command=/usr/bin/jed
 [ ... and `dpkg -l jed' shows it's installed
 OK, still updates-menu ignores jed]
 
 A strange story! I just copied your `jed' file
 to my own
 /etc/menu, and changed the `?pacakge(jed)' to
 `?package(local.jed)',
 and it works OK for me (I don't have jed
 installed, so I just
 added the `local.')

I just tried this too, but it didn't work. this
really is strange!

  I tried update-menus -d.
  There is too much output to capture
 
 Well, you can try
  update-menus -d  2 file
 and you can later read file slowly. (using
 `less' for example)

Ok, I am attaching file file.txt which is my
output from update-menus -d
(btw, I never heard of 2, I had tried 
which didn't work, I guess DOS has corrupted me. 
;-)



  , but from
  what I am able to see it never processes
  etc/menu/jed or /etc/menu/xjed (but how can
 that
  be?)
 
 There realy should be a line like:
 
 Update-menus[1659]: Reading menuentryfile
 /etc/menu/jed

ok, it is reading my /etc/menu/ files.
I can't understand why they are not showing up in
my fvwm menus. my menu file /etc/menu/aim does
show up.
In addition to everything I have tried, I also
tried deleting the original menu files from
/usr/lib/menu, but even that didn't work. I had
thought that maybe the original menu files were
messing it up.

 
 Oh, maybe you already told me, but what version
 of menu
 are you using? (dpkg -l menu)

here is my output from dpkg -l menu:

whitestar:~# dpkg -l menu
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
|
Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/
Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems
(Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name   VersionDescription
+++-==-==-
ii  menu   2.1.5-3provides
update-menus functions for some app
whitestar:~# 


Is this saying menu is only half installed??  how
could that be? my /etc/menu/aim file is read and
does show up in fvwm.

I just tried to install menu using apt-get:

whitestar:~# apt-get install menu
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Sorry, menu is already the newest version
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to
remove and 0 not upgraded.
whitestar:~# 

I am totally confoozled.
I am wondering if I can just uninstall menu
altogether and simply edit my  FVWM menus
directly. it seems much more straight-forward and
easier.

xucaen

P.S. is there a better way to cut and paste from
xterm into netscape? I hate having to cut and
paste into a file, then loading the file in
netscape just to use netscape's cut and paste.
ugh!!


 
 Thanks,
 joostj


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Update-menus[672]: Reading installed packages...
Update-menus[672]: attempting to open /etc/menu-methods/translate_menus.. 
Update-menus[672]: Reading translate info in /etc/menu-methods/translate_menus
Update-menus[672]: name=substitute
Update-menus[672]: match_var=section
Update-menus[672]: replace_var=section
Update-menus[672]: adding translate rule: [Apps/Games/] match=Apps/Games/, 
replace=Games/, replace_var=section
Update-menus[672]: End reading translate info
Update-menus[672]: TRANS: [section]
Update-menus[672]: key=Apps/Games/ match=Apps/Games/, replace=Games/, 
replace_var=section

Update-menus[672]: Reading menuentryfiles in /etc/menu/
Update-menus[672]: Reading menuentryfile /etc/menu/aim
Update-menus[672]: translate: var[Apps/Net] testing trans rule match 
for:Apps/Games/
Update-menus[672]: ADDING: command=/usr/local/bin/aim 
icon=/home/xucaen/pixmaps/aim.xpm needs=X11 package=aim 
section=Apps/Net title=Aim

Update-menus[672]: Reading menuentryfile /etc/menu/mc
Update-menus[672]: translate: var[Apps/Tools] testing trans rule match 
for:Apps/Games/
Update-menus[672]: ADDING: command=/usr/bin/mc -c longtitle=Midnight 
Commander needs=text package=local.mc section=Apps/Tools title=mc

Update-menus[672]: Reading menuentryfile /etc/menu/jed
Update-menus[672]: translate: var[Apps/Editors] testing trans rule match 
for:Apps/Games/
Update-menus[672]: ADDING: command=/usr/bin/jed needs=text 
package=local.jed section=Apps/Editors title=jed

Update-menus[672]: Reading menuentryfile /etc/menu/xjed
Update-menus[672]: translate: var[Apps/Editors] testing trans rule match 
for:Apps/Games/
Update-menus[672]: ADDING: command=/usr/X11R6/bin/xjed needs=x11 
package=local.xjed section=Apps/Editors title=xjed

Update-menus[672]: Reading menuentryfiles in /usr/lib/menu/
Update-menus[672]: Reading menuentryfile /usr/lib/menu/pppconfig
Update-menus[672]: translate: var[Apps

update-menus not working? Here is my info.

2001-02-10 Thread Xucaen
Hi. sorry it's taken me so long to do this. It's
been very busy here.

I am also replying to the list, in case someone
else has something to add or is having a similar
problem.

--- Joost Witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 10:12:25AM -0800,
 Xucaen wrote:
  is /etc/menu/jed:
  
  ?package(jed):needs=text \
  section=Apps/Editors \
  title=jed \
  command=/usr/bin/jed
 
 Looks fine to me. Do you hava a `jed' package
 installed
 (does `dpkg -l jed' give a line that starts
 with `i'?). If not,
 then you should use something like
 `?package(local.jed):...'.
 


Here is my output from dpkg -l jed and dpkg -l
xjed:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -l jed
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
|
Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/
Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems
(Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name   VersionDescription
+++-==-==-
ii  jed0.99.9-14  Editor for
programmers. (textmode version)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -l xjed
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
|
Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/
Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems
(Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name   VersionDescription
+++-==-==-
ii  xjed   0.99.9-14  Editor for
programmers. (x11 version)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 


 Also, I assume the file-permissions are OK (not
 executable, and
 readable).
 

Here is my /etc/menu directory:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/menu$ ls -l
total 20
-rw-r--r--1 root root  397 Jan 22
 2000 README
-rw-r--r--1 root root  127 Jan 25
12:07 aim
-rw-r--r--1 root root   97 Jan 30
08:12 jed
-rw-r--r--1 root root  116 Jan 30
07:30 mc
-rw-r--r--1 root root  103 Jan 30
07:30 xjed
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/menu$

if you notice, I have a menu file called aim,
which does indeed work, the other three don't
work.


  when I run update-menus (as root) it doesn't
 add
 
 You can try `update-menus -v' or `update-menus
 -d', to see more
 output. (with -d, IIRC, you should see
 /etc/menu/jed come by).


I tried update-menus -d.
There is too much output to capture, but from
what I am able to see it never processes
etc/menu/jed or /etc/menu/xjed (but how can that
be?)


 
 If that doesn't work, please email me. Maybe it
 is a bug in the menu
 package.
 
 Thanks,
 joostje
 

Let me know if this information was helpful.

thanks!!

xucaen

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Re: update-menus not working? Here is my info.

2001-02-10 Thread joost witteveen
At 2001/02/10(6)/10:02, Xucaen wrote:

   ?package(jed):needs=text \
   section=Apps/Editors \
   title=jed \
   command=/usr/bin/jed
[ ... and `dpkg -l jed' shows it's installed OK, still updates-menu ignores jed]

A strange story! I just copied your `jed' file to my own
/etc/menu, and changed the `?pacakge(jed)' to `?package(local.jed)',
and it works OK for me (I don't have jed installed, so I just
added the `local.')

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/menu$ ls -l
 total 20
 -rw-r--r--1 root root 397 Jan 22  2000 README
 -rw-r--r--1 root root 127 Jan 25 12:07 aim
 -rw-r--r--1 root root  97 Jan 30 08:12 jed
 -rw-r--r--1 root root 116 Jan 30 07:30 mc
 -rw-r--r--1 root root 103 Jan 30 07:30 xjed

That's fine too.
 
 I tried update-menus -d.
 There is too much output to capture

Well, you can try
 update-menus -d  2 file
and you can later read file slowly. (using `less' for example)
(and, a UNIX tip: see `man script' if you want a more
general solution to `too much output to capture')

 , but from
 what I am able to see it never processes
 etc/menu/jed or /etc/menu/xjed (but how can that
 be?)

There realy should be a line like:

Update-menus[1659]: Reading menuentryfile /etc/menu/jed

in the `update-menus -d' output. Are you certain even
that is missing? Then something strange is going on.

Oh, maybe you already told me, but what version of menu
are you using? (dpkg -l menu)

Thanks,
joostje



RE: does anyone here use update-menus?

2001-02-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
run update-menus with the -v and maybe -d options.  See the man page for more
info.



Re: does anyone here use update-menus?

2001-02-01 Thread cls/cs
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 10:05:55PM -0800, Xucaen wrote:
 Hi all..
 
 I've added new menu files to /etc/menu but
 update-menus doesn't see them.  I got this to
 work with one menu file I added, but I've added
 three more since and they don't show up.
 here's one that I am trying to get to work, this
 is /etc/menu/jed:
 
 ?package(jed):needs=text \
 section=Apps/Editors \
 title=jed \
 command=/usr/bin/jed
 
 just as a comparison, here is my emacs, which
 does work, /usr/lib/menu/emacs20:
 
 ?package(emacs20):\
   needs=text\
   section=Apps/Editors\
   title=Emacs 20\
   command=/usr/bin/emacs20\
   icon=/usr/share/emacs/20.7/etc/gnu.xpm
 
 
 the only difference is the icon, but that
 shouldn't matter..
 does anyone else see something that maybe i'm
 missing?
 The docs say that anything in
 /etc/menu will override /usr/lib/menu
 
 any ideas?
 
 thanks!
 
 xucaen
 

i'm just guessing here, but my /etc/menu/foo use:

needs=X11\  (rather than, text)
...

once again, ...just guessing.

bentley taylor
potato, icewm/liquid

...

//



Re: update-menus not working?

2001-01-31 Thread Joost Witteveen
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 10:12:25AM -0800, Xucaen wrote:
 is /etc/menu/jed:
 
 ?package(jed):needs=text \
 section=Apps/Editors \
 title=jed \
 command=/usr/bin/jed

Looks fine to me. Do you hava a `jed' package installed
(does `dpkg -l jed' give a line that starts with `i'?). If not,
then you should use something like `?package(local.jed):...'.

Also, I assume the file-permissions are OK (not executable, and
readable).

 when I run update-menus (as root) it doesn't add

You can try `update-menus -v' or `update-menus -d', to see more
output. (with -d, IIRC, you should see /etc/menu/jed come by).

If that doesn't work, please email me. Maybe it is a bug in the menu
package.

Thanks,
joostje



does anyone here use update-menus?

2001-01-31 Thread Xucaen
Hi all..

I've added new menu files to /etc/menu but
update-menus doesn't see them.  I got this to
work with one menu file I added, but I've added
three more since and they don't show up.
here's one that I am trying to get to work, this
is /etc/menu/jed:

?package(jed):needs=text \
section=Apps/Editors \
title=jed \
command=/usr/bin/jed

just as a comparison, here is my emacs, which
does work, /usr/lib/menu/emacs20:

?package(emacs20):\
  needs=text\
  section=Apps/Editors\
  title=Emacs 20\
  command=/usr/bin/emacs20\
  icon=/usr/share/emacs/20.7/etc/gnu.xpm


the only difference is the icon, but that
shouldn't matter..
does anyone else see something that maybe i'm
missing?
The docs say that anything in
/etc/menu will override /usr/lib/menu

any ideas?

thanks!

xucaen


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Re: update-menus not working?

2001-01-31 Thread ktb
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 10:12:25AM -0800, Xucaen wrote:
 Hi all..
 
 I've added new menu files to /etc/menu but
 update-menus doesn't see them.  I got this to
 work with one menu file I added, but I've added
 three more since and they don't show up.
 here's one that I am trying to get to work, this
 is /etc/menu/jed:
 
 ?package(jed):needs=text \
 section=Apps/Editors \
 title=jed \
 command=/usr/bin/jed
 

Could it be that there needs to be a space -

?package(jed):needs=text
  ^  here?
kent

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update-menus not working?

2001-01-30 Thread Xucaen
Hi all..

I've added new menu files to /etc/menu but
update-menus doesn't see them.  I got this to
work with one menu file I added, but I've added
three more since and they don't show up.
here's one that I am trying to get to work, this
is /etc/menu/jed:

?package(jed):needs=text \
section=Apps/Editors \
title=jed \
command=/usr/bin/jed

just as a comparison, here is my emacs, which
does work, /usr/lib/menu/emacs20:

?package(emacs20):\
  needs=text\
  section=Apps/Editors\
  title=Emacs 20\
  command=/usr/bin/emacs20\
  icon=/usr/share/emacs/20.7/etc/gnu.xpm


the only difference is the icon, but that
shouldn't matter..
when I run update-menus (as root) it doesn't add
the jed menu item. the docs say that anything in
/etc/menu will override /usr/lib/menu
any ideas?

thanks!

xucaen


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RE: update-menus

2000-12-10 Thread Krzys Majewski
Yeah,  the problem  is vtwm  doesn't have  a #include  directive for
reading multiple files  on startup. Shouldn't be too  hard to hack the
source to do this. Though I'm wary of doing stuff like this because it's
not very  portable, in the sense that  I would have to  compile my own
custom  vtwm if I  change machines.  The other  option I  was thinking
about is  to run some  kind of preprocessor,  like cpp or m4,  from my
.xinitrc for example. 
-chris

On Mon, 20 Nov 2000, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:

 
 On 19-Nov-2000 Krzys Majewski wrote:
  How can I make update-menus coexist with my custom wm config files? For
  example, I rolled my own  ~/.vtwmrc. Now, I apt-get install xinvaders. I
  would like  a menu entry for  xinvaders to appear automagically in my
  window manager, without losing my other customizations. 
  
  The  current behaviour  is  that the  files ~/.vtwm/system.vtwmrc and
  ~/.vtwm/menudefs.hook  (or  probably  /etc/X11/vtwm/system.vtwmrc  and
  /etc/X11/vtwm/menudefs.hook if I  don't run update-menus manually) are
  updated, but my ~/.vtwmrc is unmodified.  
  
  If I symlink ~/.vtwmrc  to ~/.vtwm/system.vtwmrc, the whole thing gets
  overwritten,  which   is  not   what  I  want,   since  it   nukes  my
  customizations. 
  
 
 you can run update-menus as a user.  This will place a menu file for the wm in
 your home dir.  Then edit your file to use that menu file instead.
 



Re: dpkg --getselections, apt, and update-menus

2000-11-22 Thread Hugo van der Merwe
Mmm. I'm reading via the web site, as I am not subscribed to this
list... makes replying a little harder. Maybe I ought to specifically
ask CC:'s to me.

  getselections is supposed to be current.  A package marked deinstall is
  removed, but not purged.  Or at least it is expected to be.
 
 On my machine, it definately doesn't work like that. I just tested it.
 Changed a selection in dselect, but didn't do an Install, the
 selection change was evident in dpkg --get-selections.
 
 I don't think that's what Sean meant. If, in dselect, you use '-' to
 mark a package for removal - or use 'apt-get remove' - then a package's
 configuration files won't be removed, and some state about the package
 will remain in the system. However, if you use '_' in dselect, or
 'apt-get --purge remove', then the package's configuration files will be
 removed too, and /var/lib/dpkg/status will forget that it ever existed.

Um, that's kind of not what I meant either. I wasn't replying to the
remove/purge thing, rather just stating the fact that --get-selections
does not coincide with the current state of the machine. Rather with the 
future desired state of the machine.

  a) # dpkg --get-selections|sed -e 's/deinstall$/install/'|dpkg
 --set-selections
 # apt-get dselect-upgrade
 
 Ah yes... sed. The problem with this is, it will also install the
 packages that are not installed (that are really currently
 deinstalled).
 
 No, completely uninstalled (purged or never installed) packages don't
 show up in 'dpkg --get-selections' at all.

I was here referring to packages that have been removed, but not purged.
They show up in --get-selections, and will be installed by these
commands. All I was aiming to do was get the selections to match with
the current state of the machine.

I think the best way to go about his is sed'ing through the status file.

Thanks,
Hugo van der Merwe



RE: update-menus

2000-11-20 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 19-Nov-2000 Krzys Majewski wrote:
 How can I make update-menus coexist with my custom wm config files? For
 example, I rolled my own  ~/.vtwmrc. Now, I apt-get install xinvaders. I
 would like  a menu entry for  xinvaders to appear automagically in my
 window manager, without losing my other customizations. 
 
 The  current behaviour  is  that the  files ~/.vtwm/system.vtwmrc and
 ~/.vtwm/menudefs.hook  (or  probably  /etc/X11/vtwm/system.vtwmrc  and
 /etc/X11/vtwm/menudefs.hook if I  don't run update-menus manually) are
 updated, but my ~/.vtwmrc is unmodified.  
 
 If I symlink ~/.vtwmrc  to ~/.vtwm/system.vtwmrc, the whole thing gets
 overwritten,  which   is  not   what  I  want,   since  it   nukes  my
 customizations. 
 

you can run update-menus as a user.  This will place a menu file for the wm in
your home dir.  Then edit your file to use that menu file instead.



update-menus

2000-11-19 Thread Krzys Majewski
How can I make update-menus coexist with my custom wm config files? For
example, I rolled my own  ~/.vtwmrc. Now, I apt-get install xinvaders. I
would like  a menu entry for  xinvaders to appear automagically in my
window manager, without losing my other customizations. 

The  current behaviour  is  that the  files ~/.vtwm/system.vtwmrc and
~/.vtwm/menudefs.hook  (or  probably  /etc/X11/vtwm/system.vtwmrc  and
/etc/X11/vtwm/menudefs.hook if I  don't run update-menus manually) are
updated, but my ~/.vtwmrc is unmodified.  

If I symlink ~/.vtwmrc  to ~/.vtwm/system.vtwmrc, the whole thing gets
overwritten,  which   is  not   what  I  want,   since  it   nukes  my
customizations. 

-chris







Re: dpkg --getselections, apt, and update-menus

2000-11-18 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson) writes:

 I don't think that's what Sean meant. If, in dselect, you use '-' to
 mark a package for removal - or use 'apt-get remove' - then a package's
 configuration files won't be removed, and some state about the package
 will remain in the system. However, if you use '_' in dselect, or
 'apt-get --purge remove', then the package's configuration files will be
 removed too, and /var/lib/dpkg/status will forget that it ever existed.

Getting OT: That's not quite correct. The `Package:', `Status:',
`Priority:' and `Section:' entries of a purged package remains
forever, so the status file grows on and on over the years and keeps
even entries of packages which no longer exists.

I wonder if this slows down the installation process and if `purging'
the status file from those purged package entries would help, but I
didn't dare that as yet.

Greetings,
joachim



Re: dpkg --getselections, apt, and update-menus

2000-11-18 Thread Colin Watson
Joachim Trinkwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson) writes:
 I don't think that's what Sean meant. If, in dselect, you use '-' to
 mark a package for removal - or use 'apt-get remove' - then a package's
 configuration files won't be removed, and some state about the package
 will remain in the system. However, if you use '_' in dselect, or
 'apt-get --purge remove', then the package's configuration files will be
 removed too, and /var/lib/dpkg/status will forget that it ever existed.

Getting OT: That's not quite correct. The `Package:', `Status:',
`Priority:' and `Section:' entries of a purged package remains
forever, so the status file grows on and on over the years and keeps
even entries of packages which no longer exists.

Oops, yes, I must have got confused about that; sorry for the
misinformation. In fact, looking at the source, 'dpkg --get-selections'
simply lists the desired state of all packages except those which are
already in the not-installed state.

I wonder if this slows down the installation process and if `purging'
the status file from those purged package entries would help, but I
didn't dare that as yet.

You could try 'dpkg --forget-old-unavail', which removes entries from
the status file which are not installed and no longer available. On my
system that only reduced the size of the status file by about 30K, but
the last time I ran that command was only a few months ago.

I suspect that reading the status file doesn't actually take all that
long; the most time-consuming part (though I've never profiled it to
find out) is probably reading the lists of files in each package to make
sure they aren't accidentally overwritten. Since each package's file
list is kept in a separate file in /var/lib/dpkg/info, it takes a lot of
system calls to do this, which is slow. Also, /var/lib/dpkg/info is very
large on most systems, and the ext2 filesystem searches through such
directories linearly (hence slowly).

-- 
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]



dpkg --getselections, apt, and update-menus

2000-11-16 Thread Hugo van der Merwe
Lately I've been using console-apt for installations, but I tend to run
dselect, just to see what packages are new. As such, everytime I ran it,
a couple of package selections changed due to upgrades, depencencies,
etc. I didn't care about it, as I don't use dselect anymore. I found it
rather odd that many things were no longer on my system's menu system.
That's when I studied how update-menu's generates the menu. I noticed it
used dpkg --get-selections, which I ran myself, and noticed the hundreds
of deinstall selections, and realised what the fault was.

I just went through dselect and selected everything that was installed,
that fixed up my system. A couple of ways I could have avoided this:

 - Is there some other easy way to see what packages are new? I would
prefer to not use dselect at all, but this is something I really like. I
thought of making this a wishlist bug for console-apt, but I don't think
it will fit in well with the current (simple/unbloated/fast) design of
capt (I like capt being as fast as possible, for use on old computers,
so maybe `list-new-packages` should be a seperate program). One needs a
backup of the previous package lists to do this. I think dselect did
this with /var/lib/dpkg/available[-old], does using only apt/capt update
these files, or possibly not the -old one? 
 - Maybe update-menus should rather look at what is currently installed,
rather than what the selections for the next install/remove operation
will be. It does seem to make more sense to me.
 - This is maybe the best/most useful solution at this point: some easy
way to sync the selections with what is currently installed? i.e. undo
all selections. How can one do this?

I admit to not have researched this properly: I haven't checked mailing
lists for previous discussions, and haven't checked the BTS, so I
apologize if this has already been discussed.

Thanks,
Hugo van der Merwe



RE: dpkg --getselections, apt, and update-menus

2000-11-16 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
  - Maybe update-menus should rather look at what is currently installed,
 rather than what the selections for the next install/remove operation
 will be. It does seem to make more sense to me.

getselections is supposed to be current.  A package marked deinstall is
removed, but not purged.  Or at least it is expected to be.  There is no other
good way for an outside program to ask dpkg about the state of the system.

  - This is maybe the best/most useful solution at this point: some easy
 way to sync the selections with what is currently installed? i.e. undo
 all selections. How can one do this?
 

a) # dpkg --get-selections|sed -e 's/deinstall$/install/'|dpkg --set-selections
   # apt-get dselect-upgrade

b) run the dselect update as root, but actually browse as a user

c) dselect has a 'revert' key binding, but it only works for that run of
dselect.  So if you exit, there is no help.

Personally, I think console apt should have some way of showing new packages. 
if a package is marked 'new' and you have the sort order set to show new items
first, it would emulate dselect fairly well.



Re: dpkg --getselections, apt, and update-menus

2000-11-16 Thread Hugo van der Merwe
 getselections is supposed to be current.  A package marked deinstall is
 removed, but not purged.  Or at least it is expected to be.

On my machine, it definately doesn't work like that. I just tested it.
Changed a selection in dselect, but didn't do an Install, the
selection change was evident in dpkg --get-selections.

 There is no other
 good way for an outside program to ask dpkg about the state of the system.

I realise this is the problem. Which is why one might rather look at
updating dpkg, rather than update-menus... (Oh, my machine is a very
up-to-date woody, well, as up to date as the local mirror, which seems
to update a couple of times a week, but not necessarily every day.)

 a) # dpkg --get-selections|sed -e 's/deinstall$/install/'|dpkg 
 --set-selections
# apt-get dselect-upgrade

Ah yes... sed. The problem with this is, it will also install the
packages that are not installed (that are really currently
deinstalled). Maybe one should use sed on /var/lib/dpkg/status...?
Replacing lines containing Status: install ok deinstall or something
like that with Status: install ok install... It does sort of feel
wrong to go this low level though.

 b) run the dselect update as root, but actually browse as a user

A little extra trouble, but probably the best solution thus far. Infact,
I just got the idea, and tested it, to simply do:

# dselect update ; su hugo -c dselect select

I could just make this a listnewpackages script or alias...

 c) dselect has a 'revert' key binding, but it only works for that run of
 dselect.  So if you exit, there is no help.

Yup... a global revert would be usefull.

 Personally, I think console apt should have some way of showing new packages. 
 if a package is marked 'new' and you have the sort order set to show new items
 first, it would emulate dselect fairly well.

If possible, this way should be avoidable if it makes console-apt any
slower, I think. But personally, on my machine, I would also love to see
this.

Thanks,
Hugo van der Merwe



Re: dpkg --getselections, apt, and update-menus

2000-11-16 Thread Colin Watson
Hugo van der Merwe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 getselections is supposed to be current.  A package marked deinstall is
 removed, but not purged.  Or at least it is expected to be.

On my machine, it definately doesn't work like that. I just tested it.
Changed a selection in dselect, but didn't do an Install, the
selection change was evident in dpkg --get-selections.

I don't think that's what Sean meant. If, in dselect, you use '-' to
mark a package for removal - or use 'apt-get remove' - then a package's
configuration files won't be removed, and some state about the package
will remain in the system. However, if you use '_' in dselect, or
'apt-get --purge remove', then the package's configuration files will be
removed too, and /var/lib/dpkg/status will forget that it ever existed.

I almost always purge packages unless I'm just removing them
temporarily.

 a) # dpkg --get-selections|sed -e 's/deinstall$/install/'|dpkg
--set-selections
# apt-get dselect-upgrade

Ah yes... sed. The problem with this is, it will also install the
packages that are not installed (that are really currently
deinstalled).

No, completely uninstalled (purged or never installed) packages don't
show up in 'dpkg --get-selections' at all.

Cheers,

-- 
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]



language support for update-menus?

2000-04-28 Thread Kent Nyberg
I like update-menus ALOT, but would like it even better if it had support
for diffrent languages, like swedish and so on.
Would this be impossible?
I know its not much, its just the net graphics and those things that
needs to be changed.




Re: update-menus problem with potato

2000-01-15 Thread Marek Habersack
* Sean Johnson said:
 wow, don't know how I missed that ... thanks.
Anytime :)))

marek


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update-menus problem with potato

2000-01-14 Thread Gerhard Kroder
i've just setup a brandnew potato system (builtup from scratch as
potato) an try to get x/windowmanagers runnig. i noticed that 
update-menus doesn't run throug correctly, but i can't find the problem. 


running on the new system shows:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] gerdk more update-menus.log 
 In file /usr/lib/menu/xbase-clients, at (or in the definition that ends at) 
 line 22:
 [...]x11 package=xbase-clients section=Apps/Tools
 [...] ^
 Missing (or empty) tag: title
 This tag needs to defined for the menuentry to make sense.
 Note, BTW, that update-menus re-arranges the order of the
 tags found in the menu entry files, so that the part above
 isn't literal
 /etc/menu-methods//asclassic: Aborting

and so on for all other things  update-menus should do...

testing on an older system runnung already potato shows:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root update-menus 
 In file /etc/menu-methods//afterstep, at (or in the definition that ends 
 at) l
 ine 32:
 startmenu=   PopUp \ $section \\n Title title() \\n
 ^
 Unknown function: Title
 /etc/menu-methods//afterstep: Aborting
 Update-menus[3535]: Script /etc/menu-methods//afterstep returned error status 
 1.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root 


what to do?

gerhard


Re: update-menus problem with potato

2000-01-14 Thread Sean Johnson
A quick fix is to remove (or move) the /usr/lib/menu/xbase-clients file
... as its format is evidently fscked. 

Sean

Gerhard Kroder wrote:
 
 i've just setup a brandnew potato system (builtup from scratch as
 potato) an try to get x/windowmanagers runnig. i noticed that
 update-menus doesn't run throug correctly, but i can't find the problem.
 
 running on the new system shows:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] gerdk more update-menus.log
  In file /usr/lib/menu/xbase-clients, at (or in the definition that ends 
  at) line 22:
  [...]x11 package=xbase-clients section=Apps/Tools
  [...] ^
  Missing (or empty) tag: title
  This tag needs to defined for the menuentry to make sense.
  Note, BTW, that update-menus re-arranges the order of the
  tags found in the menu entry files, so that the part above
  isn't literal
  /etc/menu-methods//asclassic: Aborting
 
 and so on for all other things  update-menus should do...
 
 testing on an older system runnung already potato shows:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root update-menus
  In file /etc/menu-methods//afterstep, at (or in the definition that ends 
  at) l
  ine 32:
  startmenu=   PopUp \ $section \\n Title title() \\n
  ^
  Unknown function: Title
  /etc/menu-methods//afterstep: Aborting
  Update-menus[3535]: Script /etc/menu-methods//afterstep returned error 
  status 1.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root 
 
 what to do?
 
 gerhard
 
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Re: update-menus problem with potato

2000-01-14 Thread Marek Habersack
* Sean Johnson said:
 A quick fix is to remove (or move) the /usr/lib/menu/xbase-clients file
 ... as its format is evidently fscked. 
Even quicker is to edit it and add a backslash after every
'hints=something' line.

marek


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Re: update-menus problem with potato

2000-01-14 Thread Sean Johnson
wow, don't know how I missed that ... thanks.

Sean

Marek Habersack wrote:
 
 * Sean Johnson said:
  A quick fix is to remove (or move) the /usr/lib/menu/xbase-clients file
  ... as its format is evidently fscked.
 Even quicker is to edit it and add a backslash after every
 'hints=something' line.
 
 marek
 
   
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update-menus casca (fwd)

1999-09-19 Thread Juan Ignacio Llona
Hola a todos!

En mi /etc/menu-methods/translate_menus he incluído las siguientes líneas:

substitute section-section
  #Apps/Games/  Juegos/ #any entry whose $section=Apps/Games
#will now have a section of Games.
  #Apps/Aplic/
  #Screen/  Pantalla/
  Apps/System/  Apps/Sistema/
  WorkSpace/   Area_de_trabajo/
endtranslate

Como veis, hay solamente dos sustituciones sin comentario. Pues bien, si
intento descomentar una tercera sustitución (la que sea), update-menus
casca con una violación de segmento (core dumped). Con el strace se ve por
ahí una señal 11.

He probado con 'unset LC_ALL LC_MESSAGES LANG' pero sigue generándome el
core.

La versión de menu que tengo es la siguiente:

ii  menu1.5-17 provides update-menus functions for
some app

A alguien más le pasa? Hay algún bug relacionado?

'tapronto

Iñaki Llona
e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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update-menus casca

1999-09-08 Thread Juan Ignacio Llona
Hola a todos!

En mi /etc/menu-methods/translate_menus he incluído las siguientes líneas:

substitute section-section
  #Apps/Games/  Juegos/ #any entry whose $section=Apps/Games
#will now have a section of Games.
  #Apps/Aplic/
  #Screen/  Pantalla/
  Apps/System/  Apps/Sistema/
  WorkSpace/   Area_de_trabajo/
endtranslate

Como veis, hay solamente dos sustituciones sin comentario. Pues bien, si
intento descomentar una tercera sustitución (la que sea), update-menus
casca con una violación de segmento (core dumped). Con el strace se ve por
ahí una señal 11.

La versión de menu que tengo es la siguiente:

ii  menu1.5-17 provides update-menus functions for
some app

A alguien más le pasa? Hay algún bug relacionado?

'tapronto

Iñaki Llona
e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: update-menus does not add a mosaic entry to my menu ?

1999-08-14 Thread shaul
 
 * shaul == shaul  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 shaul Can someone tell me why update-menus does not add a mosaic
 shaul entry to my menu ?  If this is not an obvious error, where
 shaul should I look ?
 
 a) does dpkg -l mosaic show the package as installed?
 b) run update-menus with verbose and debugging for more than enough
 info.
 
 Ciao,
   Martin
 

[03:55:46 shaul]$ dpkg -l Mosaic
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ NameVersionDescription
+++-===-==-
ii  Mosaic  2.7b5-8Graphical WWW browser
[03:56:33 shaul]$ update-menus -v 
update-menus run by user -- cannot determine if dpkg is locking 
/var/lib/dpkg/lock: assuming there is no lock
Update-menus: Dpkg not locking dpkg status area. Good.
Reading installed packages...
Reading translate info in /etc/menu-methods/translate_menus
running menu-methods in /home/shaul/.menu-methods/
running menu-methods in /etc/menu-methods/
Udate-menus: Running method:/etc/menu-methods//fvwm2
[03:57:04 shaul]$ update-menus -d 21 | grep -A1 -B1 mosaic

Reading menuentryfile /home/shaul/.menu/mosaic
Reading menuentryfile /home/shaul/.menu/minicom-modem
[03:57:37 shaul]$ 

Isn't that the expected output ?

BTW: Does the above ( update-menus -d 21 ) proves that update-menu debug 
output is sent to stderr ? Because if it does then isn't stdout a better 
choice ?





Re: update-menus does not add a mosaic entry to my menu ?

1999-08-12 Thread Martin Bialasinski

* shaul == shaul  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

shaul Can someone tell me why update-menus does not add a mosaic
shaul entry to my menu ?  If this is not an obvious error, where
shaul should I look ?

a) does dpkg -l mosaic show the package as installed?
b) run update-menus with verbose and debugging for more than enough
info.

Ciao,
Martin


update-menus does not add a mosaic entry to my menu ?

1999-08-11 Thread shaul
Hello,
Can someone tell me why update-menus does not add a mosaic entry to my menu ?
If this is not an obvious error, where should I look ?

[12:21:20 shaul]$ cat .menu/mosaic 
?package(mosaic):needs=X11 section=Apps/Net title=Mosaic \
   command=/usr/bin/X11/Mosaic -geometry 627x468
[01:54:34 shaul]$ cat /usr/lib/menu/mosaic 
?package(mosaic):needs=x11 section=Apps/Net title=Mosaic \
   command=/usr/bin/X11/Mosaic
[01:54:43 shaul]$

Thank you.


Re: Update-menus hanging during dselect / apt-get

1999-08-02 Thread Nate Duehr
Joost, 

After receiving your request to run your test program to try to catch
the update-menu's bug, and having the symptom happen again to me here
this evening, here's some more information about the update-menu's bug
for your reference.

Summary:

- Had the symptom happen again.  
- Was able to run the killtest program you wrote.
- Had an interesting error output from it when I ran a new copy of RXVT
with killtest running in the background in X.
- System is 2.0.36 with 2.1.2-0pre2 libc6
- Both libstdc++2.9 2.91.61-1 and libstdc++2.9 2.91.61-2 appear to be
loaded at the same time? 
(Is this odd to you?  In dselect, they both show as installed, and the
lower one
shows that it's up-to-date...)
- Menu version 2.1.2-3
- Hardware: AMD K6-2 350/96MB RAM (in case it matters...)

Here's the output of dselect/apt when it hung this time.  This time I
was REMOVING packages:

Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  knews inewsinn slrn uudeview
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 4 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 1375kB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
(Reading database ... 47056 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing inewsinn ...
Removing knews ...
Update-menus[12173]: further output (if any) will appear in
/tmp/update-menus.12173
update-menus, debugging Bug#42051. ERROR: second kill returns 0!, i=0
See also http://joostje.op.het.net/menu/index.htmlupdate-menus,
debugging bug #42051. Parent got SIGUSR2! Please reportSee also
http://joostje.op.het.net/menu/index.html
Removing slrn ...
dpkg - warning: while removing slrn, directory `/etc/news' not empty so
not removed.
dpkg - warning: while removing slrn, directory `/var/lib/slrn' not empty
so not removed.

--- HUNG HERE --- HIT CTRL-C HERE ---

dpkg: error processing slrn (--remove):
 subprocess post-removal script killed by signal (Interrupt)
/var/lib/dpkg/info/slrn.postinst: /usr/sbin/slrnconfig: No such file or
directory
dpkg: error while cleaning up:
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
E: Sub-process exited unexpectedly
Some errors occurred while unpacking. I'm going to configure the
packages that were installed. This may result in duplicate errors
or errors caused by missing dependencies. This is OK, only the errors
above this message are important. Please fix them and run [I]nstall
again
Press enter to continue.
installation script returned error exit status 100.
Press RETURN to continue.

-

So it continued and started the removal of slrn and then hung during
that, not right at the place where your signals should have been
received...?

-

Here's the results of your killtest program:
- Normal operation (nothing else running), everything okay.
- Loading a copy of RXVT while killtest was running produced:

/killtest: error in loading shared libraries: /lib/ld-linux.so.2:
undefined symbol: _dl_init_next, version GLIBC_2.0

Don't know what that means, but maybe it helps?  The message came out
and then the dots continued normally...

-

Hope this new data helps you!

Nate Duehr - [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Update-menus hanging during dselect / apt-get

1999-07-29 Thread Nate Duehr
Laurent Martelli wrote:

 I saw something about this in debian-devel, and I think there's a bug
 report now.

Yes, I've been in contact with the package maintainer and here was his
response to me.
Since I had the problem last night, it has not happened again, which I
don't really understand, but here's his info about what he's looking for
to find it and fix it if someone else runs into the problem.  Note: he's
not subscribed to Debian-User, so if anyone else runs into this, be sure
to try some of the things he's mentioned below...

-- Message from Joopje about Update-menus problem below --

(copying to Bug 42051, as it's the same)


From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed Jul 28 11:10:34 1999
Subject: Update-menus hanging during dselect / apt-get

 I'm copying the package maintainer on this since I didn't see anything
 in the bugs database... perhaps I've stumbled on one?

Yes, a bug has already been filed. But I'm very glad you didn't
notice it (it's not yet on't www.master.org, while it is on 
master.debian.org), as your bugreport is a *lot* more informative
than the one in the BTS! Just one nit: both you and the other bug mailer
think about mention what version of menu you are using, or any other
packages menu depends on. Could you send me a list of that?
(installed versions of menu, libc6, libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1). Thanks.

 After a fairly painless upgrade to potato on one system here, I've been
 doing the occasional update/upgrade cycle with either dselect or apt-get
 and things usually go well.  (After I got all the Perl stuff
 straightened out... but that's why it's called unstable!)
 
 Tonight, I seem to be having a recurring problem with Update-menus
 hanging and stopping everything right after packages are unpacked by
 dselect/apt.

Last weekend I've released a new version of menu, that may well have
caused this. (Will be sure once you mention what version you are now
using).
Anyway, it *is* unstable, isn't it?

 The output is...
 
 Upacking replacement foo ...
 Update-menus[PID]: further output (if any) will appear in
 /tmp/update-menus.PID
 
 ... where PID is the PID of a copy of update-menus... of course.
 
 At this point, the whole process hangs and doesn't continue.  Ctrl-C
 will interrupt, which will kill both update-menus and the script running
 which sends the signal to apt that all did not go well with the package.
 
 Sometimes, running a new dselect/apt session it will get farther along,
 but then it hangs again later on another package it seems.

OK, thanks. So it isn't reproducable.

But the fact that it then hangs later on is actually strange. That
shouldn't
happen. Could you, in the /etc/menu-methods/menu.config file, change
the `verbosity=quiet' line to `verbosity=verbose', and then try
to get again that situation where update-menus goes through the first
time, but not the second (third, whatever)? I'd be interested to see
the output of update-menus in that case (both the first one that
does fall through, and the one that `hangs')

 Some other output from a `ps aux | grep update` shows that there are two
 update-menus running, and I don't know if this is possibly the issue, or
 if it's normal for update-menus to have children.  One is the PID listed
 in the output of apt, the other is one PID LOWER.


What happens if you do

 # kill -SIGUSR1 `expr PID - 1`

in a seperate window, while update-menus is `hanging'?

Actually that test is rather irrelevant, cause it will almost certainly
cause the process to go on smoothly. But anyway, it is a way to
`fix' the problem temporarily. 

Also, I'd like to see what a second update-menus call does the above
case.
So, please install two packages with update-menus calls in their
postinst,
wait for update-menus to hang, type kill -SIGUSR1 `expr PID - 1`, and
see what the second postinsts with update-menus in it does. It *should*
report nothing at all.

Oh, and one more thing: I use apt/dselect, I only use dpkg directly
(well during the latst year). Could you check if just typing somthing
like

#  dpkg -i ncftp2_2.4.3-2.deb xwhois_0.3.5-1.deb

(or whatever packages you are installing) also has the problem?

 I've attempted to exit out of the package selection tools and run
 update-menus by hand as root, and that seems to work fine.  No errors
 output to STDERR or STDOUT, anyway.

If you want some more output, you could try 
  update-menus -v
and you should see something of a confirmation that everything went OK.

 And yes, I did the change suggested
 by Joop in moving his config file for the older afterstep stuff from the
 example he gives to the live copy... but I'm using WindowMaker anyway,
 and Afterstep is rarely used, if at all on this machine.

Everything you said suggests that update-menus hasn't started looking
at even the menu-entry-files, never mind the menu-methods. So, although
any type of experimenting cannot be harmful, I think this is not the
most likly place to find clues to the bug.

 Anyone have any other ideas on how to catch what's

Update-menus hanging during dselect / apt-get

1999-07-28 Thread Nate Duehr
After a fairly painless upgrade to potato on one system here, I've been
doing the occasional update/upgrade cycle with either dselect or apt-get
and things usually go well.  (After I got all the Perl stuff
straightened out... but that's why it's called unstable!)

Tonight, I seem to be having a recurring problem with Update-menus
hanging and stopping everything right after packages are unpacked by
dselect/apt.

The output is...

Upacking replacement foo ...
Update-menus[PID]: further output (if any) will appear in
/tmp/update-menus.PID

... where PID is the PID of a copy of update-menus... of course.

At this point, the whole process hangs and doesn't continue.  Ctrl-C
will interrupt, which will kill both update-menus and the script running
which sends the signal to apt that all did not go well with the package.

Sometimes, running a new dselect/apt session it will get farther along,
but then it hangs again later on another package it seems.

Some other output from a `ps aux | grep update` shows that there are two
update-menus running, and I don't know if this is possibly the issue, or
if it's normal for update-menus to have children.  One is the PID listed
in the output of apt, the other is one PID LOWER.

df -k shows that /tmp is at 0% full, so that rules out the obvious
problem.  Actually none of the filesystems are anywhere near full.

I've attempted to exit out of the package selection tools and run
update-menus by hand as root, and that seems to work fine.  No errors
output to STDERR or STDOUT, anyway.  And yes, I did the change suggested
by Joop in moving his config file for the older afterstep stuff from the
example he gives to the live copy... but I'm using WindowMaker anyway,
and Afterstep is rarely used, if at all on this machine.

Anyone have any other ideas on how to catch what's happening to it, or
is this a known issue being discussed elsewhere, and I don't see it
because I only am subscribed to Debian-User?

I'm copying the package maintainer on this since I didn't see anything
in the bugs database... perhaps I've stumbled on one?

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Re: Update-menus hanging during dselect / apt-get

1999-07-28 Thread Laurent Martelli
 Nate == Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Nate Anyone have any other ideas on how to catch what's happening
  Nate to it, or is this a known issue being discussed elsewhere, and
  Nate I don't see it because I only am subscribed to Debian-User?

I saw something about this in debian-devel, and I think there's a bug
report now.

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update-menus not working? A bug?

1999-07-13 Thread Phillip Deackes
I am using Potato and regularly update my system with apt-get. I
currently have version 2.1.0-2 of menu and version 0.60.0-4 of Window
Maker.

Basically my Window Maker menu is not updating as it should, even when I
install a new Debian package. If I run update-menus as a user I get a
segmentaion fault, and as root it does nothing. Manual changes to
/etc/menu have no effect. It used to work fine.

Is there a bug? I do apologise if the topic has already been mentioned
in the group.


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Re: update-menus not working? A bug?

1999-07-13 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, Jul 13, 1999 at 10:30:15AM +0100, Phillip Deackes wrote:

 Basically my Window Maker menu is not updating as it should, even when I
 install a new Debian package. If I run update-menus as a user I get a
 segmentaion fault, and as root it does nothing. Manual changes to
 /etc/menu have no effect. It used to work fine.

 Is there a bug? I do apologise if the topic has already been mentioned
 in the group.

You may need to restart windomaker to get it to notice the changes.

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Re: update-menus not working? A bug?

1999-07-13 Thread Phillip Deackes
Mark Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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= You may need to restart windomaker to get it to notice the changes.
= 

Thanks, but that doesn't work either.


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Re: update-menus not working? A bug?

1999-07-13 Thread Sean
I've been noticing the very same thing.  I tried deleting a few files, and 
forcing
them to be recreated, and that only partially worked.  It seems to be completely
ignoring what entries are located in any and all of the locations it searches 
...
/etc/menu, /usr/lib/menu, ~/.menu, and so on.

Sean

Phillip Deackes wrote:

 Mark Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 =
 = You may need to restart windomaker to get it to notice the changes.
 =

 Thanks, but that doesn't work either.

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Re: update-menus

1999-05-30 Thread Martin Bialasinski

 F == Fabien  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

F ps : it's a shame that there is not enough explanations in the man
F pages.

You are always free to submit patches trough the bug system. You will
also find all this information in /usr/doc/menu/html/*

Ciao,
Martin


update-menus

1999-05-27 Thread Fabien
Hello.

I have tried to use update-menus for local applications (not from debian
package).

In man menufile, they say :
  Each menuentry specifies what pack­
   age it depends on, if that package is not  installed,  the
   menuentry will be ignored by update-menus(1).  (In a menu­
   entry you can  specify  pseudo-packages  that  start  with
   local,  update-menus will always use those menuentries).


So I have tried it, in /etc/menu (I think it's the good place for it)
and also in /usr/lib/menu
But, it doesn't work...
this  is my localmenu :
?package(localnetscape):needs=x11 command=/usr/local/bin/netscape
section=Apps
/Net title=Netscape

Yes, I know : there is a netscape package, but this is not the problem.

Thanks for your help !

Fabien SALVI Centre de Ressources Informatiques
Centre Universitaire et de Recherche
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