Re: Action/Multimedia Keys not working Windowmaker
Hi Ralf, On 12 February 2013 14:12, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> Btw. I experienced on other distros that PA today is easy to remove and >> don't use a dummy package anymore I've uninstalled pulseaudio - that went when I uninstalled Gnome - sorry for any confusion (and yes, libpulse is indeed still installed). H -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caerryqghasnvuqsk5olpszmvfdkzm36tsca+cb+gvsh463j...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Action/Multimedia Keys not working Windowmaker
PS: Don't confuse pulseaudio with libpulse, there's no need to install libpulse or what ever the package is named. Btw. I experienced on other distros that PA today is easy to remove and don't use a dummy package anymore and in some cases it's possible to really disable it, without any drawbacks and even usage should be better today. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1360678272.2162.161.camel@precise
Re: Action/Multimedia Keys not working Windowmaker
PPS: On Tue, 2013-02-12 at 15:11 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > PS: Don't confuse pulseaudio with libpulse, there's no need to install ^^^ A typo: remove, uninstall > libpulse or what ever the package is named. > > Btw. I experienced on other distros that PA today is easy to remove and > don't use a dummy package anymore and in some cases it's possible to > really disable it, without any drawbacks and even usage should be better > today. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1360678334.2162.162.camel@precise
Re: Action/Multimedia Keys not working Windowmaker
I don't know if pulseaudio has to do with your multimedia key issue, I don't think so, OTOH for this software everything seems to be possible. However, I neither like multimedia keys, nor pulseaudio. If you want to get rid of PA, I should be able to help you. I don't know which of your packages have got hard dependencies to PA, but you can replace PA with a dummy package, at least in the past, I never experienced issues when getting rid of it this way. In the past only gnome-settings-daemon had a hard dependency. Perhaps it's still the same and you have GDM installed, which still might depend to the settings daemon. If so, you could recompile the daemon without PA dependency or you could install another display manager. To build a dummy package, there is the very nice and not obsolete howto http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-helpers.en.html . Hth, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1360678072.2162.158.camel@precise
Action/Multimedia Keys not working Windowmaker
Hello all, After a full day's hard googling, I posted this to debian-laptop yesterday, but haven't had a response, so maybe here is a more appropriate place? Apologies in advance if not. I'm running Wheezy and the multimedia/volume keys don't work in Windowmaker (they work fine with Gnome and Xfce4), nor from the console. Using xev, it seems they've been mapped correctly (from an Arch wiki page I ran this command): xev | grep -A2 --line-buffered '^KeyRelease' | sed -n '/keycode /s/^.*keycode \([0-9]*\).* (.*, \(.*\)).*$/\1 \2/p' Which gave me the output: 123 XF86AudioRaiseVolume 122 XF86AudioLowerVolume 121 XF86AudioMute The Debian wiki (http://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard/MultimediaKeys) suggests mapping them with xmodmap - but that seems a little redundant/wrong if xev is telling me they're already mapped (same with xloadkeys). I've tried installing/purging everything to do with Gnome (to get rid of specifically pulseaudio), but that doesn't make any difference - l even uninstalled ALSA and reinstalled with no joy. Other function keys like brightness/dimming work fine, it's just the volume up/down/mute that aren't working. The card (according to alsamixer is a HDA Intel / Intel Cantiga HDMI). Any help would be really appreciated. Harvey -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAErRyQhOA=yqR4AoGFTk23pJAshd8qkwyr=kM0=Pp=r-w9_...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Lenny stable. How to find wmsm WindowMaker applet?
Mark Goldshtein wrote: > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Chris Burkhardt wrote: >> Mark Goldshtein wrote: But in the mean time I've built you a package (I'm assuming you are using an i386 processor): http://mretc.net/~cris/tmp/wmsm_0.2.1-1_i386.deb All it installs is the single (12KB) executable to /usr/X11R6/bin/wmsm To install it just run, as root, 'dpkg -i wmsm_0.2.1-1_i386.deb' Hope that helps! >>> Thank you! >>> I will try your build as soon as I will reach my Debian-loaded computer! >> Hi Mark, have you had a chance to download and try that package yet? >> > > Chris, it works!! > > I have rebooted from [ offtopic here :) ] and started your applet > right away. It works. Done. Great! > > Good job, Chris! Another little user just happy :) Excellent :) - Chris B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny stable. How to find wmsm WindowMaker applet?
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Chris Burkhardt wrote: > > Mark Goldshtein wrote: >>> But in the mean time I've built you a package (I'm assuming you are using an >>> i386 processor): http://mretc.net/~cris/tmp/wmsm_0.2.1-1_i386.deb >>> >>> All it installs is the single (12KB) executable to /usr/X11R6/bin/wmsm >>> >>> To install it just run, as root, 'dpkg -i wmsm_0.2.1-1_i386.deb' >>> >>> Hope that helps! >> >> Thank you! >> I will try your build as soon as I will reach my Debian-loaded computer! > > Hi Mark, have you had a chance to download and try that package yet? > Chris, it works!! I have rebooted from [ offtopic here :) ] and started your applet right away. It works. Done. Great! Good job, Chris! Another little user just happy :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny stable. How to find wmsm WindowMaker applet?
On 3/2/09, Chris Burkhardt wrote: > Mark Goldshtein wrote: Would you please help me to install that little one? KPackage also gave me nothing. >>> You would first need to convert the RPM package to a deb package using >>> alien >>> (see the package named 'alien'). >>> >>> Then you would install the resulting .deb using 'dpkg -i >>> packagename.deb'. >> >> Thanks for the hint! >> >> # apt-get install alien >> Reading package lists... Done >> Building dependency tree >> Reading state information... Done > [... a ton of dependencies ...] >> >> And if I trying to install any few packages more from 'suggested' >> section, that process of never-end dependences have promise to >> 'convert' my end-user computer into developer station :) >> >> I am just trying to install a tiny prog about 20kb in weight :) Do I >> really need 100+ megs of something I will never use to have it done :) >> ? >> Is that possible to do this "convert" operation online? >> >> "To build, or do not to build?" :) > > Wow, yeah, it's not worth installing all of that just for this program. > > What you should do is file a Request For Packaging (RFP) bug against the > wnpp > package. That way hopefully some developer will take the time to create an > official Debian package and upload it to the repositories. (See > http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/) > > But in the mean time I've built you a package (I'm assuming you are using an > i386 processor): http://mretc.net/~cris/tmp/wmsm_0.2.1-1_i386.deb > > All it installs is the single (12KB) executable to /usr/X11R6/bin/wmsm > > To install it just run, as root, 'dpkg -i wmsm_0.2.1-1_i386.deb' > > Hope that helps! Thank you! I will try your build as soon as I will reach my Debian-loaded computer! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny stable. How to find wmsm WindowMaker applet?
Mark Goldshtein wrote: >>> Would you please help me to install that little one? KPackage also >>> gave me nothing. >> You would first need to convert the RPM package to a deb package using alien >> (see the package named 'alien'). >> >> Then you would install the resulting .deb using 'dpkg -i packagename.deb'. > > Thanks for the hint! > > # apt-get install alien > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done [... a ton of dependencies ...] > > And if I trying to install any few packages more from 'suggested' > section, that process of never-end dependences have promise to > 'convert' my end-user computer into developer station :) > > I am just trying to install a tiny prog about 20kb in weight :) Do I > really need 100+ megs of something I will never use to have it done :) > ? > Is that possible to do this "convert" operation online? > > "To build, or do not to build?" :) Wow, yeah, it's not worth installing all of that just for this program. What you should do is file a Request For Packaging (RFP) bug against the wnpp package. That way hopefully some developer will take the time to create an official Debian package and upload it to the repositories. (See http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/) But in the mean time I've built you a package (I'm assuming you are using an i386 processor): http://mretc.net/~cris/tmp/wmsm_0.2.1-1_i386.deb All it installs is the single (12KB) executable to /usr/X11R6/bin/wmsm To install it just run, as root, 'dpkg -i wmsm_0.2.1-1_i386.deb' Hope that helps! - Chris B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny stable. How to find wmsm WindowMaker applet?
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Chris Burkhardt wrote: > Mark Goldshtein wrote: >>> You may try and install the RPM, it has few depends. >>> http://rpmseek.com/rpm-dl/wmsm-0.2.0-alt1.i586.html?hl=com&cbd=0:W:120:1859264:48:0:0 >> >> Thanks, for the tip! I have got one here: >> http://search.linux.kiev.ua/server/ftp.linux.kiev.ua/browse/pub/Linux/ALT/Sisyphus/files/i586/RPMS/?page=239 >> >> Their main FTP server seems to be down for the moment. >> >> Here is a log my attempt: >> >> # aptitude install wmsm-0.2.1-alt2.i586.rpm >> Reading package lists... Done >> Building dependency tree >> Reading state information... Done >> Reading extended state information >> Initializing package states... Done >> Writing extended state information... Done >> Reading task descriptions... Done >> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched >> "wmsm-0.2.1-alt2.i586.rpm" >> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched >> "wmsm-0.2.1-alt2.i586.rpm" >> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. >> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. >> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. >> Writing extended state information... Done >> Reading package lists... Done >> Building dependency tree >> Reading state information... Done >> Reading extended state information >> Initializing package states... Done >> Reading task descriptions... Done >> >> Would you please help me to install that little one? KPackage also >> gave me nothing. > > You would first need to convert the RPM package to a deb package using alien > (see the package named 'alien'). > > Then you would install the resulting .deb using 'dpkg -i packagename.deb'. Thanks for the hint! # apt-get install alien Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: binutils build-essential debhelper dpkg-dev g++ g++-4.3 gcc gcc-4.3 html2text intltool-debian libbeecrypt6 libc6-dev libcompress-raw-zlib-perl libcompress-zlib-perl libdigest-hmac-perl libdigest-sha1-perl libfile-remove-perl libio-compress-base-perl libio-compress-zlib-perl libmail-box-perl libmail-sendmail-perl libmime-types-perl libobject-realize-later-perl librpm4.4 libstdc++6-4.3-dev libsys-hostname-long-perl libuser-identity-perl linux-libc-dev make po-debconf rpm Suggested packages: lsb-rpm lintian binutils-doc dh-make debian-keyring g++-multilib g++-4.3-multilib gcc-4.3-doc libstdc++6-4.3-dbg gcc-multilib manpages-dev autoconf automake1.9 libtool flex bison gdb gcc-doc gcc-4.3-multilib libmudflap0-4.3-dev gcc-4.3-locales libgcc1-dbg libgomp1-dbg libmudflap0-dbg glibc-doc libhtml-format-perl spamassassin libmail-imapclient-perl libstdc++6-4.3-doc make-doc And if I trying to install any few packages more from 'suggested' section, that process of never-end dependences have promise to 'convert' my end-user computer into developer station :) I am just trying to install a tiny prog about 20kb in weight :) Do I really need 100+ megs of something I will never use to have it done :) ? Is that possible to do this "convert" operation online? "To build, or do not to build?" :) -- Sincerely Yours' Mark Goldshtein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny stable. How to find wmsm WindowMaker applet?
Mark Goldshtein wrote: >> You may try and install the RPM, it has few depends. >> http://rpmseek.com/rpm-dl/wmsm-0.2.0-alt1.i586.html?hl=com&cbd=0:W:120:1859264:48:0:0 > > Thanks, for the tip! I have got one here: > http://search.linux.kiev.ua/server/ftp.linux.kiev.ua/browse/pub/Linux/ALT/Sisyphus/files/i586/RPMS/?page=239 > > Their main FTP server seems to be down for the moment. > > Here is a log my attempt: > > # aptitude install wmsm-0.2.1-alt2.i586.rpm > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Reading extended state information > Initializing package states... Done > Writing extended state information... Done > Reading task descriptions... Done > Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched > "wmsm-0.2.1-alt2.i586.rpm" > Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched > "wmsm-0.2.1-alt2.i586.rpm" > No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. > 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. > Writing extended state information... Done > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Reading extended state information > Initializing package states... Done > Reading task descriptions... Done > > Would you please help me to install that little one? KPackage also > gave me nothing. You would first need to convert the RPM package to a deb package using alien (see the package named 'alien'). Then you would install the resulting .deb using 'dpkg -i packagename.deb'. - Chris B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Lenny stable. How to find wmsm WindowMaker applet?
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > Mark Goldshtein wrote: >> >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Chris Burkhardt wrote: >>> >>> Mark Goldshtein wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello, list! >>>> >>>> I am running Debian Lenny stable (fresh installed right after release >>>> date) and WindowMaker. Here is my sources.list: >>>> >>>> [...] >>>> >>>> Looking for WindowMaker applets, I have not found 'wmsm' applet. This >>>> is nice 'all in one' information icon with CPU, memory, swap, I/O >>>> operations and uptime monitoring. I have used that tiny app for years >>>> and was very satisfied. You may take a look on that here: >>>> http://dockapps.org/file.php/id/208 >>>> >>>> Would you please help me to find and install one for Debian 5? >>> >>> $ apt-cache search wmsm >>> wmsmpmon - A CPU monitoring dockapp for SMP systems >>> >>> So an 'aptitude install wmsmpmon' as root should get it installed. >>> >>> - Chris B >> >> Thanks for replay! >> >> Pardon me, but that not the same applet :) >> Still need wmsm. > > > You may try and install the RPM, it has few depends. > http://rpmseek.com/rpm-dl/wmsm-0.2.0-alt1.i586.html?hl=com&cbd=0:W:120:1859264:48:0:0 Thanks, for the tip! I have got one here: http://search.linux.kiev.ua/server/ftp.linux.kiev.ua/browse/pub/Linux/ALT/Sisyphus/files/i586/RPMS/?page=239 Their main FTP server seems to be down for the moment. Here is a log my attempt: # aptitude install wmsm-0.2.1-alt2.i586.rpm Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Reading extended state information Initializing package states... Done Writing extended state information... Done Reading task descriptions... Done Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "wmsm-0.2.1-alt2.i586.rpm" Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "wmsm-0.2.1-alt2.i586.rpm" No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. Writing extended state information... Done Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Reading extended state information Initializing package states... Done Reading task descriptions... Done Would you please help me to install that little one? KPackage also gave me nothing. -- Sincerely Yours' Mark Goldshtein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny stable. How to find wmsm WindowMaker applet?
Mark Goldshtein wrote: On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Chris Burkhardt wrote: Mark Goldshtein wrote: Hello, list! I am running Debian Lenny stable (fresh installed right after release date) and WindowMaker. Here is my sources.list: [...] Looking for WindowMaker applets, I have not found 'wmsm' applet. This is nice 'all in one' information icon with CPU, memory, swap, I/O operations and uptime monitoring. I have used that tiny app for years and was very satisfied. You may take a look on that here: http://dockapps.org/file.php/id/208 Would you please help me to find and install one for Debian 5? $ apt-cache search wmsm wmsmpmon - A CPU monitoring dockapp for SMP systems So an 'aptitude install wmsmpmon' as root should get it installed. - Chris B Thanks for replay! Pardon me, but that not the same applet :) Still need wmsm. You may try and install the RPM, it has few depends. http://rpmseek.com/rpm-dl/wmsm-0.2.0-alt1.i586.html?hl=com&cbd=0:W:120:1859264:48:0:0 -- Jimmy Johnson Bakersfield, CA. U.S.A. Registered Linux User #380263 K.I.S.S. (Keep it simple stupid) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny stable. How to find wmsm WindowMaker applet?
Mark Goldshtein wrote: > Thanks for replay! > > Pardon me, but that not the same applet :) Oh... um, then... I don't know. Sorry! - Chris B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny stable. How to find wmsm WindowMaker applet?
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Chris Burkhardt wrote: > Mark Goldshtein wrote: >> Hello, list! >> >> I am running Debian Lenny stable (fresh installed right after release >> date) and WindowMaker. Here is my sources.list: >> >> [...] >> >> Looking for WindowMaker applets, I have not found 'wmsm' applet. This >> is nice 'all in one' information icon with CPU, memory, swap, I/O >> operations and uptime monitoring. I have used that tiny app for years >> and was very satisfied. You may take a look on that here: >> http://dockapps.org/file.php/id/208 >> >> Would you please help me to find and install one for Debian 5? > > $ apt-cache search wmsm > wmsmpmon - A CPU monitoring dockapp for SMP systems > > So an 'aptitude install wmsmpmon' as root should get it installed. > > - Chris B Thanks for replay! Pardon me, but that not the same applet :) Still need wmsm. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny stable. How to find wmsm WindowMaker applet?
Mark Goldshtein wrote: > Hello, list! > > I am running Debian Lenny stable (fresh installed right after release > date) and WindowMaker. Here is my sources.list: > > [...] > > Looking for WindowMaker applets, I have not found 'wmsm' applet. This > is nice 'all in one' information icon with CPU, memory, swap, I/O > operations and uptime monitoring. I have used that tiny app for years > and was very satisfied. You may take a look on that here: > http://dockapps.org/file.php/id/208 > > Would you please help me to find and install one for Debian 5? $ apt-cache search wmsm wmsmpmon - A CPU monitoring dockapp for SMP systems So an 'aptitude install wmsmpmon' as root should get it installed. - Chris B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Lenny stable. How to find wmsm WindowMaker applet?
Hello, list! I am running Debian Lenny stable (fresh installed right after release date) and WindowMaker. Here is my sources.list: $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.0 _Lenny_ - Official i386 kde-CD Binary-1 20090214-17:33]/ lenny main deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main deb-src http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main. Looking for WindowMaker applets, I have not found 'wmsm' applet. This is nice 'all in one' information icon with CPU, memory, swap, I/O operations and uptime monitoring. I have used that tiny app for years and was very satisfied. You may take a look on that here: http://dockapps.org/file.php/id/208 Would you please help me to find and install one for Debian 5? Actually, I may not to mess with a source code and appropriate tools for now, so be kind do not point me to compile it for myself. Thanks! -- Sincerely Yours' Mark Goldshtein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Etch upgrade and keyboard in WindowMaker
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 09:52:59PM EDT, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 09:36:48PM -0400, cga2000 wrote: > > > > Do a "locate WindowMaker" .. that's the name of the main config file > > .. case-sensitive .. If you don't have updatedb set up as yet .. you > > could do a "find / name WindowMaker -print". > > > Should be -name (notice the dash). This is what I found: :-/ oops .. I type fairly fluently .. but I do have serious problems with my neck and my right pinky tends to let me down once in a while ... Sorry. > ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WindowMaker > > However, now that I have fixed the keyboard bindings by hand, I am not > sure if they are new additions or if there was something else there > before. > > > > > It's a good idea to know where you config file live. > > > :-) > > > > > Try to locate wmaker's config files and copy them to a backup > > directory. One of the rare weaknesses I have found with wmaker is a > > marked propensity to wipe their contents. > > > > But then after losing them a few times and recreating them by hand -- > > twenty desktops .. 50+ dockapps .. nice bloated config .. now that I > > have a backup, it hasn't happened again. > > > > Go figure :-) > > > I had a problem with that some years ago. The state would get corrupted > and cause a segfault whenever WindowMaker restarted. the infamous signal 9 or something .. huh? I think that wmaker's logic is to write back his in-core config upon exit .. the problem is that on rare occasions wmaker does not exit gracefully (very rare .. it's usually when X dies underneath it) and either he writes garbage .. or dies in the middle of rewriting his config files .. with rather (un)predictable results .. speculation .. I've never found the time to learn wmaker properly .. from the inside that is. Pity the wmaker mailing list passed away .. If you feel adventurous one day (and haven't done so already..) you might want to take a look at GNUstep .. If nothing else, it helps put the macwindows gui into perspective. Thanks, cga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Etch upgrade and keyboard in WindowMaker
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 09:36:48PM -0400, cga2000 wrote: > > Do a "locate WindowMaker" .. that's the name of the main config file > .. case-sensitive .. If you don't have updatedb set up as yet .. you > could do a "find / name WindowMaker -print". Should be -name (notice the dash). This is what I found: ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WindowMaker However, now that I have fixed the keyboard bindings by hand, I am not sure if they are new additions or if there was something else there before. > > It's a good idea to know where you config file live. > :-) > > Try to locate wmaker's config files and copy them to a backup > directory. One of the rare weaknesses I have found with wmaker is a > marked propensity to wipe their contents. > > But then after losing them a few times and recreating them by hand -- > twenty desktops .. 50+ dockapps .. nice bloated config .. now that I > have a backup, it hasn't happened again. > > Go figure :-) > I had a problem with that some years ago. The state would get corrupted and cause a segfault whenever WindowMaker restarted. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Etch upgrade and keyboard in WindowMaker
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 07:51:34PM EDT, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 06:59:26PM -0400, cga2000 wrote: > > > > Yes, I'm still on sarge and running wmaker 0.80.2. > > > > So I guess this was changed with the newer 0.90.x versions .. > > > > Actually when you do get it to work you're in for a "treat" .. > > > I'd love to get it working :-) > > > WindowMaker now has the Windows gadget popup when you Alt-Tab right in > > the middle of your screen and has an icon for each window on your > > current workspace. Completely ruins the look and feel of wmaker, imho. > > > I get what you are saying, but I usually have enough windows open at a > time that I don't mind. Sometimes it is just a pain to read through the > whole list that you get on a middle-click. That's why I asked them to stick in easily visible separators on the "winlist" menu so you could tell apart at a glance the windows open on each workspace. A much better choice imho, since it kept wmaker "unpolluted". And a lot more effective because the menu lets you display a window identifier that's basically unlimited in length .. Not so with the windows-inspired gadget. And I don't even mention the fact that it breaks the wmaker/next interface .. at least aesthetically. After all the work and passion he put into recreating the NeXT interface, I don't understand how A. Kojima could put up with that. > > I'll try to boot into etch later tonight .. but in the meantime .. > > since I vaguely recall you had also problems with F12 for the root menu > > .. etc .. you may want to locate your "WindowMaker" config file and > > check in there the keyboard shortcut definitions. See if they are what > > you expect. The file used to be in ~/GNUstep/Defaults/ but that may > > have changed with the new version. > > > I could not find anything there. Do a "locate WindowMaker" .. that's the name of the main config file .. case-sensitive .. If you don't have updatedb set up as yet .. you could do a "find / name WindowMaker -print". It's a good idea to know where you config file live. > > If you edit the file, do not do with wmaker up and running .. At best > > your changes will be overwritten when you exit wmaker .. at worst your > > config files will be wiped out. Do it from a linux console - eg. > > > > I imagine you have bounced your wmaker session since you tweaked your > > keyboard shorthcuts. Otherwise be aware that there is an ancient bug in > > wmaker where you need to issue a "Save Session" .. should be in the > > "Commands" submenu .. before any changes you made via WPrefs are applied > > to your current session. Doesn't make sense but I have confirmed this > > many times. > > > Yes. I have it set to automatically save the session on every exit. OK. I don't do that because I like wmaker to come up with just the couple of things I need at startup. If I set this option .. the next wmaker session might restart any tentative garbage I have in the current session. > > If nothing comes of the above and unless I find something useful my end > > with the newer version, you may also want to try the alternative > > configuration GUI .. ie. wmakerconf. Probably won't make any > > difference .. but it may yell at your for some reason or other and that > > may shed some light on this affair .. > > > I finally figured it out. > > It turns out that at some point, my keyboard configurations got trashed > (I am willing to bet this is an artifact of the upgrade from Sarge to > Etch, but I can't prove it). Anyhow, I went back and manually > reassigned all the shortcuts. Try to locate wmaker's config files and copy them to a backup directory. One of the rare weaknesses I have found with wmaker is a marked propensity to wipe their contents. But then after losing them a few times and recreating them by hand -- twenty desktops .. 50+ dockapps .. nice bloated config .. now that I have a backup, it hasn't happened again. Go figure :-) > At the time, I did not think anything of > it, but all the shortcuts were getting assigned like this: > > alt+m -> Mod1+Mod2+m > > When I tried modifying some them in wmakerconf, I actually noticed it > again. I realized that asside from alt, I was not pressing any other > modifiers. I then noticed that my numlock was on. I didn't think it > could be related, but I turned it off. Then I fixed the shortcuts so > that instead of Mod1+Mod2 they all used only Mod1. After logging out > and back in, everything seems to work the w
Re: Etch upgrade and keyboard in WindowMaker
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 06:59:26PM -0400, cga2000 wrote: > > Yes, I'm still on sarge and running wmaker 0.80.2. > > So I guess this was changed with the newer 0.90.x versions .. > > Actually when you do get it to work you're in for a "treat" .. > I'd love to get it working :-) > WindowMaker now has the Windows gadget popup when you Alt-Tab right in > the middle of your screen and has an icon for each window on your > current workspace. Completely ruins the look and feel of wmaker, imho. > I get what you are saying, but I usually have enough windows open at a time that I don't mind. Sometimes it is just a pain to read through the whole list that you get on a middle-click. > I'll try to boot into etch later tonight .. but in the meantime .. > since I vaguely recall you had also problems with F12 for the root menu > .. etc .. you may want to locate your "WindowMaker" config file and > check in there the keyboard shortcut definitions. See if they are what > you expect. The file used to be in ~/GNUstep/Defaults/ but that may > have changed with the new version. > I could not find anything there. > If you edit the file, do not do with wmaker up and running .. At best > your changes will be overwritten when you exit wmaker .. at worst your > config files will be wiped out. Do it from a linux console - eg. > > I imagine you have bounced your wmaker session since you tweaked your > keyboard shorthcuts. Otherwise be aware that there is an ancient bug in > wmaker where you need to issue a "Save Session" .. should be in the > "Commands" submenu .. before any changes you made via WPrefs are applied > to your current session. Doesn't make sense but I have confirmed this > many times. > Yes. I have it set to automatically save the session on every exit. > If nothing comes of the above and unless I find something useful my end > with the newer version, you may also want to try the alternative > configuration GUI .. ie. wmakerconf. Probably won't make any > difference .. but it may yell at your for some reason or other and that > may shed some light on this affair .. > I finally figured it out. It turns out that at some point, my keyboard configurations got trashed (I am willing to bet this is an artifact of the upgrade from Sarge to Etch, but I can't prove it). Anyhow, I went back and manually reassigned all the shortcuts. At the time, I did not think anything of it, but all the shortcuts were getting assigned like this: alt+m -> Mod1+Mod2+m When I tried modifying some them in wmakerconf, I actually noticed it again. I realized that asside from alt, I was not pressing any other modifiers. I then noticed that my numlock was on. I didn't think it could be related, but I turned it off. Then I fixed the shortcuts so that instead of Mod1+Mod2 they all used only Mod1. After logging out and back in, everything seems to work the way it did before. I am not sure how things got into the state that they did, but it is now fixed. Thanks for all your help. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Etch upgrade and keyboard in WindowMaker
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 08:50:37AM EDT, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 12:32:10AM -0400, cga2000 wrote: > > > > In WPrefs.app, on the last tab to the right you have something that says > > "enable Windoze (sic) style cycling" that needs to be checked. Sorry if > > you've already done that .. I deleted your original post. > > > Here is what I have: > > - Disable miniwindows (icons for minimized windows). For use with >KDE/GNOME (unchecked) > - Do not set non-WindowMaker specific parameters (do not use xset). >(unchecked) > - Automatically save session when exiting Window Maker. (checked) > - Use SaveUnder in window frames, icons, menus and other objects. >(unchecked) > - Disable confirmation panel for the kill command. (checked) > - Disable selection animation for selected icons. (uncheked) > - Smooth font edges (needs restart). (checked) > > None of the tabs have anything about "windoze style cycling". I seem to > recall seeing that option a long time ago (maybe in the Woody version of > WindowMaker). However, it is not there now. Yes, I'm still on sarge and running wmaker 0.80.2. So I guess this was changed with the newer 0.90.x versions .. Actually when you do get it to work you're in for a "treat" .. WindowMaker now has the Windows gadget popup when you Alt-Tab right in the middle of your screen and has an icon for each window on your current workspace. Completely ruins the look and feel of wmaker, imho. I'll try to boot into etch later tonight .. but in the meantime .. since I vaguely recall you had also problems with F12 for the root menu .. etc .. you may want to locate your "WindowMaker" config file and check in there the keyboard shortcut definitions. See if they are what you expect. The file used to be in ~/GNUstep/Defaults/ but that may have changed with the new version. If you edit the file, do not do with wmaker up and running .. At best your changes will be overwritten when you exit wmaker .. at worst your config files will be wiped out. Do it from a linux console - eg. I imagine you have bounced your wmaker session since you tweaked your keyboard shorthcuts. Otherwise be aware that there is an ancient bug in wmaker where you need to issue a "Save Session" .. should be in the "Commands" submenu .. before any changes you made via WPrefs are applied to your current session. Doesn't make sense but I have confirmed this many times. If nothing comes of the above and unless I find something useful my end with the newer version, you may also want to try the alternative configuration GUI .. ie. wmakerconf. Probably won't make any difference .. but it may yell at your for some reason or other and that may shed some light on this affair .. Thanks, cga
Re: Etch upgrade and keyboard in WindowMaker
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 12:32:10AM -0400, cga2000 wrote: > > In WPrefs.app, on the last tab to the right you have something that says > "enable Windoze (sic) style cycling" that needs to be checked. Sorry if > you've already done that .. I deleted your original post. > Here is what I have: - Disable miniwindows (icons for minimized windows). For use with KDE/GNOME (unchecked) - Do not set non-WindowMaker specific parameters (do not use xset). (unchecked) - Automatically save session when exiting Window Maker. (checked) - Use SaveUnder in window frames, icons, menus and other objects. (unchecked) - Disable confirmation panel for the kill command. (checked) - Disable selection animation for selected icons. (uncheked) - Smooth font edges (needs restart). (checked) None of the tabs have anything about "windoze style cycling". I seem to recall seeing that option a long time ago (maybe in the Woody version of WindowMaker). However, it is not there now. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Etch upgrade and keyboard in WindowMaker
On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 04:26:26PM EDT, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 06:21:01AM +0200, csanyipal wrote: > > > > If I can rememer correctly, I solve this problem so so I reconfigure > > xserver-xorg and set up again my keyboard. > > > > $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg > > > > So I have in my xorg.conf in the Section "InputDevice" this: > > > > Identifier "Generic Keyboard" > > Driver "kbd" > > Option "CoreKeyboard" > > Option "XkbRules" "xorg" > > Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > > Option "XkbLayout" "hu,hr,cs" > > Option "XkbVariant""nodeadkeys" > > > > and now I can use alt+tab on my Hungarian keyboard to switch > > between windows and alt+# to switch to the approppriate workspace. > > > > Here is what I have: > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Generic Keyboard" > Driver "kbd" > Option "CoreKeyboard" > Option "XkbRules" "xorg" > Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > Option "XkbLayout" "us" > Option "XkbVariant""nodeadkeys" > EndSection > > I still can't alt+tab to switch or any of the other issues I mentioned. > Anyone else have any ideas? In WPrefs.app, on the last tab to the right you have something that says "enable Windoze (sic) style cycling" that needs to be checked. Sorry if you've already done that .. I deleted your original post. Thanks, cga
Re: Etch upgrade and keyboard in WindowMaker
On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 06:21:01AM +0200, csanyipal wrote: > > If I can rememer correctly, I solve this problem so so I reconfigure > xserver-xorg and set up again my keyboard. > > $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg > > So I have in my xorg.conf in the Section "InputDevice" this: > > Identifier "Generic Keyboard" > Driver "kbd" > Option "CoreKeyboard" > Option "XkbRules" "xorg" > Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > Option "XkbLayout" "hu,hr,cs" > Option "XkbVariant""nodeadkeys" > > and now I can use alt+tab on my Hungarian keyboard to switch > between windows and alt+# to switch to the approppriate workspace. > Here is what I have: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Keyboard" Driver "kbd" Option "CoreKeyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" Option "XkbVariant""nodeadkeys" EndSection I still can't alt+tab to switch or any of the other issues I mentioned. Anyone else have any ideas? Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Etch upgrade and keyboard in WindowMaker
Hello! On Sun, Apr 15, 2007 at 05:14:28PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > Hello all. I upgraded my workstation from Sarge to Etch this weekend. > The biggest annoynce I have encountered is that my keyboard is "broken" > in WindowMaker. That is, alt+tab no longer switches between windows. > F12 no longer brings up the menu. F11 no longer brings up the window > list and alt+# (where # is a number 0-9) no longer switches to the > appropriate workspace. I have gone into WPrefs and tried rebinding the > key combinations. However, this still does not seem to work. Has > anyone else encountered something similar? If so, can this problem be > solved? I use also WindowMaker and I encountered this error too. If I can rememer correctly, I solve this problem so so I reconfigure xserver-xorg and set up again my keyboard. $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg So I have in my xorg.conf in the Section "InputDevice" this: Identifier "Generic Keyboard" Driver "kbd" Option "CoreKeyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "hu,hr,cs" Option "XkbVariant""nodeadkeys" and now I can use alt+tab on my Hungarian keyboard to switch between windows and alt+# to switch to the approppriate workspace. -- Regards, Paul Csányi http://www.freewebs.com/csanyi-pal/index.htm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Etch upgrade and keyboard in WindowMaker
Hello all. I upgraded my workstation from Sarge to Etch this weekend. The biggest annoynce I have encountered is that my keyboard is "broken" in WindowMaker. That is, alt+tab no longer switches between windows. F12 no longer brings up the menu. F11 no longer brings up the window list and alt+# (where # is a number 0-9) no longer switches to the appropriate workspace. I have gone into WPrefs and tried rebinding the key combinations. However, this still does not seem to work. Has anyone else encountered something similar? If so, can this problem be solved? Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: WindowMaker breaks (again) after upgrade
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 03:00:36PM EST, Tom Allison wrote: > So how do you fix it this time? > > I lost all my key settings (eg: Alt-Tab to rotate windows focus) again. > But I can't seem to find the setting in the Prefs window anymore. > I doubt WindowMaker removed the feature... Not as far as I know. Should be under the keyboard configuration thing. "Focus next window" - "Focus previous window" should be checked and have respectively "Alt+Tab" and "Alt+Shift+Tab" as the keyboard shortcuts. You may also want to make sure "Raise window when switching focus with keyboard" under "Miscellaneous Ergonomic Preferences" is checked. That's under the fifth "tab" (or icon, rather) from the left. What version are you running? Thanks, cga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WindowMaker breaks (again) after upgrade
So how do you fix it this time? I lost all my key settings (eg: Alt-Tab to rotate windows focus) again. But I can't seem to find the setting in the Prefs window anymore. I doubt WindowMaker removed the feature... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WindowMaker upgrade
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 07:33:33PM EST, Tom Allison wrote: > Well, I did it again. I upgraded windowmaker on testing and a bunch of > stuff is all screwed up. > > Somewhere I had a setting to rotate windows on ALT+TAB but not only does > this not work, I can't even find the settings to fix it anymore. > > What happened to my settings (again)? . Look for saved/renamed copies of your old wmaker config files .. possible in the ~/GNUstep/ tree. These are the files you should be looking for: WindowMaker WMRootMenu WMSound (optional) WMState WMWindowAttributes WPrefs . If the upgrade did not save the old files, restore them from a backup ... ~/GNUstep/Defaults should be where you should be looking for them. . Always have backups of ~/GNUstep/Defaults handy. I have found wmaker to be rock-solid over the years but it does have a "tendency" to wipe out its config files once in a while. It happened to me a couple of times after a brutal exit from my X session .. and that's how I got sick or re-configuring from scratch. And guess what .. now that I have an easy-to-locate backup of these file in ~/GNUstep/Defaults-Backup/ .. I haven't had a problem this last couple of years .. Go figure .. :-) In any event, I was under the impression that debian never touched anything in your home directory .. so I have a feeling this may not be directly related to your upgrade .. HTH cga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WindowMaker upgrade
Well, I did it again. I upgraded windowmaker on testing and a bunch of stuff is all screwed up. Somewhere I had a setting to rotate windows on ALT+TAB but not only does this not work, I can't even find the settings to fix it anymore. What happened to my settings (again)? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Off-Topic] Windowmaker website
On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 05:43:36PM EDT, Rodney D. Myers wrote: > Anyone know what the story with the windomaker web site is? > > http://www.windowmaker.info > > has not been available for the past few days. > Don't know what's going on. For all we know .. the developers .. the webmaster might not even be aware of it. Might be worth cross-posting something to a bunch of newsgroups? Try to reach them .. or some user who might know where to reach them. Or give it a couple more days, maybe? What do you think? Thanks cga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Off-Topic] Windowmaker website
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Re: xorg: Ctrl + Alt + F7 does'nt bring me back to WindowMaker
Does another keyboard work? Yeah! My another old spare keyboard proves that F7 and F9 of the existing keyboard are broken. I should not have posted this problem in the beginning which have wasted everyone's precious time! Pardon me for being stubborn! Regards, CN -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg: Ctrl+Alt+F7 doesn't bring back WindowMaker
Whoops! I didn't see the other thread! Yasir I've never used WindowMaker, but have you tried just pressing Alt+F7 (no ctrl)? That works for me using gdm + gnome. Hi! I don't know since when Ctrl+Alt+F7 does not bring me back to WindowMaker any more. Once I switch from WindowMaker to console by hitting Ctrl+Alt+F1 ~ F6, I lose my GUI forever and killing process xinit is my only "solution" to this problem. Helps will be much appreciated. Regards, CN -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg: Ctrl+Alt+F7 doesn't bring back WindowMaker
I've never used WindowMaker, but have you tried just pressing Alt+F7 (no ctrl)? That works for me using gdm + gnome. Hi! I don't know since when Ctrl+Alt+F7 does not bring me back to WindowMaker any more. Once I switch from WindowMaker to console by hitting Ctrl+Alt+F1 ~ F6, I lose my GUI forever and killing process xinit is my only "solution" to this problem. Helps will be much appreciated. Regards, CN -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg: Ctrl + Alt + F7 does'nt bring me back to WindowMaker
On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 10:31:50PM +0800, CN Liou wrote: > >You can run "xev" from a windowmaker terminal to check if your F7 key is > >still registering key press/release events. (That is not exactly the > >same situation as when you try to switch back to vt7, but you will see > >whether the key is active at all.) > > > > Every key stroke from F1 to F12 triggers an event, but F7 and F9 do not > fire anything. How do I ensure F7 and F9 are registered? Does another keyboard work? -- Chris. == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg: Ctrl + Alt + F7 does'nt bring me back to WindowMaker
You can run "xev" from a windowmaker terminal to check if your F7 key is still registering key press/release events. (That is not exactly the same situation as when you try to switch back to vt7, but you will see whether the key is active at all.) Every key stroke from F1 to F12 triggers an event, but F7 and F9 do not fire anything. How do I ensure F7 and F9 are registered? Regards, CN -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg: Ctrl + Alt + F7 does'nt bring me back to WindowMaker
On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 19:07:15 +0800, CN Liou wrote: > >What happens if you try to "chvt 7" from one of the ttys? Any error > >messages or other clues? > > Amazing! It take me back to WindowMaker! > > How embarrassed I am! Maybe some keys on my keyboard are broken as a > result of water drops on it days ago when it was raining outside as well > as inside of my old house during typhoon. You can run "xev" from a windowmaker terminal to check if your F7 key is still registering key press/release events. (That is not exactly the same situation as when you try to switch back to vt7, but you will see whether the key is active at all.) -- Regards, Florian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg: Ctrl + Alt + F7 does'nt bring me back to WindowMaker
What happens if you try to "chvt 7" from one of the ttys? Any error messages or other clues? Amazing! It take me back to WindowMaker! How embarrassed I am! Maybe some keys on my keyboard are broken as a result of water drops on it days ago when it was raining outside as well as inside of my old house during typhoon. Thank you very much! CN -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg: Ctrl + Alt + F7 does'nt bring me back to WindowMaker
On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 13:55:42 +0800, CN Liou wrote: > >I know Bastille will log to 7, moving X to a higher vt. Try running > >"fgconsole" to find out which tty X is using. It might be 8 or 9. > > fgconsole reports 7. What happens if you try to "chvt 7" from one of the ttys? Any error messages or other clues? -- Regards, Florian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg: Ctrl + Alt + F7 does'nt bring me back to WindowMaker
Doesn't Alt-F7 (no Ctl) do it? It doesn't. Regards, CN -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg: Ctrl + Alt + F7 does'nt bring me back to WindowMaker
CN Liou wrote: >> I know Bastille will log to 7, moving X to a higher vt. Try running >> "fgconsole" to find out which tty X is using. It might be 8 or 9. > > fgconsole reports 7. I had a similar (but not exact) problem last week; turns out my /var partition was full. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg: Ctrl + Alt + F7 does'nt bring me back to WindowMaker
I know Bastille will log to 7, moving X to a higher vt. Try running "fgconsole" to find out which tty X is using. It might be 8 or 9. fgconsole reports 7. Regards, CN -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xorg: Ctrl+Alt+F7 doesn't bring back WindowMaker
Hi! I don't know since when Ctrl+Alt+F7 does not bring me back to WindowMaker any more. Once I switch from WindowMaker to console by hitting Ctrl+Alt+F1 ~ F6, I lose my GUI forever and killing process xinit is my only "solution" to this problem. Helps will be much appreciated. Regards, CN -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg: Ctrl + Alt + F7 does'nt bring me back to WindowMaker
On 7/17/06, CN Liou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't know since when Ctrl+Alt+F7 does not bring me back to WindowMaker any more. Once I switch from WindowMaker to console by hitting Ctrl+Alt+F1 ~ F6, I lose my GUI forever and killing process xinit is my only "solution" to this problem for the time being. I know Bastille will log to 7, moving X to a higher vt. Try running "fgconsole" to find out which tty X is using. It might be 8 or 9. -- Michael A. Marsh http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~mmarsh http://mamarsh.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg: Ctrl + Alt + F7 does'nt bring me back to WindowMaker
On 7/17/06, CN Liou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi!I don't know since when Ctrl+Alt+F7 does not bring me back to WindowMakerany more. Once I switch from WindowMaker to console by hitting Ctrl+Alt+F1~ F6, I lose my GUI forever and killing process xinit is my only "solution" to this problem for the time being.Doesn't Alt-F7 (no Ctl) do it? It's only from within X that Ctl is required to switch consoles in my experience.Patrick
xorg: Ctrl + Alt + F7 does'nt bring me back to WindowMaker
Hi! I don't know since when Ctrl+Alt+F7 does not bring me back to WindowMaker any more. Once I switch from WindowMaker to console by hitting Ctrl+Alt+F1 ~ F6, I lose my GUI forever and killing process xinit is my only "solution" to this problem for the time being. Helps will be much appreciated. Regards, CN -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrade kills windowmaker
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 12:39:42AM EDT, Rodney D. Myers wrote: > On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:16:12 -0400 > cga2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I would create a test userid.. su to root.. useradd.. passwd.. etc. > > login as this new user and if your manage to start wmaker this would > > confirm your wmaker config is toast. > > Just did that, and it also aborts. :-( Well it's definitely not the power cuts.. I don't run xorg .. so my only suggestion would be checking with the folks on the wmaker list. Note that I would still recommend having a backup of the wmaker config files.. Corrupt config files is the only problem I have (rarely) run into in five years' using wmaker. > > -- > Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Registered Linux User #96112 > ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: > 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 > > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a > little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. > Ben Franklin - 1759 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrade kills windowmaker
On Tue, 6 Jun 2006 13:42:21 -0700 Derek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yey did that a few days ago. > > On 6/6/06, Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Tue, 6 Jun 2006 02:24:18 -0700 > > Derek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > wmaker is working fine for me on etch. > > > > > > On 6/5/06, Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:16:12 -0400 > > > > cga2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I would create a test userid.. su to root.. useradd.. passwd.. etc. > > > > > login as this new user and if your manage to start wmaker this would > > > > > confirm your wmaker config is toast. > > > > > > > > Just did that, and it also aborts. :-( > > > > Have you done an upgrade in the past 3 days, especially of the xorg > > system? > > The don't log out, and back in. That's what I did, and now WM does not function. -- Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Registered Linux User #96112 ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: upgrade kills windowmaker
Yey did that a few days ago.On 6/6/06, Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 6 Jun 2006 02:24:18 -0700Derek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> wmaker is working fine for me on etch.>> On 6/5/06, Rodney D. Myers < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> > On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:16:12 -0400> > cga2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> > > I would create a test userid.. su to root.. useradd.. passwd.. etc. > > > login as this new user and if your manage to start wmaker this would> > > confirm your wmaker config is toast.> >> > Just did that, and it also aborts. :-(Have you done an upgrade in the past 3 days, especially of the xorg system?--Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Registered Linux User #96112ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO:18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.Ben Franklin - 1759
Re: upgrade kills windowmaker
On Tue, 6 Jun 2006 02:24:18 -0700 Derek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > wmaker is working fine for me on etch. > > On 6/5/06, Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:16:12 -0400 > > cga2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I would create a test userid.. su to root.. useradd.. passwd.. etc. > > > login as this new user and if your manage to start wmaker this would > > > confirm your wmaker config is toast. > > > > Just did that, and it also aborts. :-( Have you done an upgrade in the past 3 days, especially of the xorg system? -- Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Registered Linux User #96112 ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: upgrade kills windowmaker
wmaker is working fine for me on etch.On 6/5/06, Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:16:12 -0400cga2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> I would create a test userid.. su to root.. useradd.. passwd.. etc.> login as this new user and if your manage to start wmaker this would > confirm your wmaker config is toast.Just did that, and it also aborts. :-(--Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Registered Linux User #96112 ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO:18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5They that can give up essential liberty to obtain alittle temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.Ben Franklin - 1759
Re: upgrade kills windowmaker
On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:16:12 -0400 cga2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would create a test userid.. su to root.. useradd.. passwd.. etc. > login as this new user and if your manage to start wmaker this would > confirm your wmaker config is toast. Just did that, and it also aborts. :-( -- Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Registered Linux User #96112 ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: upgrade kills windowmaker
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 10:15:35AM EDT, Rodney D. Myers wrote: > I'm running debian testing. > > 2 days ago, there was a massive upgrade to the xorg system. Everything > appeared to be installed & configured correctly. > > With the heat in Southern California, we had some power drops. Ya mean Arnie hasn't fix that yet.?? > Now when > I try to start windowmaker, it starts, but quickly exits showing a > request stating something like; > > Windowmaker has caught a sig 11 error, please try again, exit with > core, or try another window manager. > > If I choose exit, no core is generated, but WM will not function. > > Any ideas? > I run a heavily customized wmaker with tons of dockapps and I always keep a backup copy of wmaker's config files - ~/GNUstep/Defaults/* because I have had a couple of problems with these files being corrupted.. on one occasion I had to do a hard reset of the laptop.. another may have been due to a power cut.. I seems that under stress wmaker panics and tries to rewrite these files before exiting.. and there ya go.. I would create a test userid.. su to root.. useradd.. passwd.. etc. login as this new user and if your manage to start wmaker this would confirm your wmaker config is toast. I don't know enough about debian to recommend what to do next. If you have a recent backup of your home directory you should: 1. backup the current (corrupt?) ~/GNUstep tree 2. restore the one from the backup 3. start wmaker - see if it fixes your problem If you don't have a usable backup of your home directory: 1. backup your ~/GNUstep tree 2. copy the test user's ~/GNUstep (and do the necessary chown's) 3. copy whatever is in ~/GNUstep/Library/WindoMaker from the backup 4. start wmaker under your id and customize manually.. You could also try and take a look at the files in ~/GNUstep/Defaults and see if you can figure out what's been corrupted - some of them might be intact.. I think in my case the WindowMaker file was empty and the WMState file had been truncated to about half of its original size.. As they say, YMMV.. Also, the paths above are correct in my sarge setup but since you mention xorg I suspect you may be running a more recent version of wmaker (0.90?).. so you may have to adjust .. I think they changed something with the more recent version. Lastly, you could also wait a couple of hours.. days.. and maybe someone who knows debian administration will come up with a cleaner solution. HTH Thanks, cga PS. Needless to say - do *not* attempt to edit wmaker's config files when your are in a wmaker session. At best your changes will be overwritten when wmaker exits.. At worst..? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
upgrade kills windowmaker
I'm running debian testing. 2 days ago, there was a massive upgrade to the xorg system. Everything appeared to be installed & configured correctly. With the heat in Southern California, we had some power drops. Now when I try to start windowmaker, it starts, but quickly exits showing a request stating something like; Windowmaker has caught a sig 11 error, please try again, exit with core, or try another window manager. If I choose exit, no core is generated, but WM will not function. Any ideas? Thanks -- Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Registered Linux User #96112 ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: windowmaker [OT]
On Friday 08 July 2005 01:44 pm, Tom Allison wrote: > I love punch cards. Did you ever use the paper tape? I used punch cards to program a Burroughs mainframe in the mid-70's and programmed a CNC lathe (machine tool) with paper tape -- what a rush!
Re: windowmaker
Hi, On 7/8/05, Meistro Master <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you're using GDM as your login manager, you should be able to > select WMaker from the "Session" menu. If you're going for the totally NextSTEP environment you may also want to check out wdm or login.app as a replacement for gdm. have fun, Cameron Matheson
Re: windowmaker
Since my post, I have installed gnustep and windowmaker and am loving it. It's snappy, fast, and lightweight. I'm also partial to the vertical taskbar setup which WMaker seems to favor. GNUMail.app is actually a pretty slick email client, and it of course is perfectly integrated with GNUstep. If you're using GDM as your login manager, you should be able to select WMaker from the "Session" menu. Good luck!
Re: windowmaker
Andy Streich wrote: Hi, Based on advice on this list to maestro I'm considering switching to windowmaker: I no longer have time to spend hours tweaking config files, and thus prefer an integrated desktop environment, but GNOME and KDE are too bulky for my PIII-650 / 320MB workstation I'm even resource-poorer with a PII-400/128MB workstation. I tried KDE, switched to GNOME, and now am investigating windowmaker. Can anyone give me pointers to information about what to expect? Specifically, 1. resources to learn/understand windowmaker Dunno, never read anything, just use it. 2. email client that works well (and lightly) in that environment (love KMail, but the overhead is too much on my system) Thunderbird? There isn't really any kind of WindowMaker specific email client, so anything will do. mutt? pine? 3. package manager, I've been using Synaptic. Am I right in assuming that aptitude is the way to go in a windowmaker environment or am I reduced to the command line? aptitude works very nicely in windowmaker. It's my default. 4. am I just too optimistic that my old system is adequate to run some kind of GUI on linux? Probably not. Windowmaker takes 4MB compared to how many hundreds for KDE? emacs (x-window mode) takes up more RAM. 5. where do I learn about how to change from booting into a GNOME dm to login to a windowmaker dm? Change the default? FYI I'm a dinosaur that learned programming in FORTRAN with punch cards in the '70s. Even in the '80s 128MB of RAM was a supercomputer and people (from HP if I recall correctly) were writing papers claiming that 50Mhz CPUs were impossible. I love punch cards. Did you ever use the paper tape? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: windowmaker
Anders, Roman, Roberto: Thanks very much for your advice. For the record I'm running Sarge and had no problem with KDE or GNOME, rather liked them both in fact. Just looking now for ways to free up resources for big apps -- and spending a lot of time learning to be a linux admin for my system! Andy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: windowmaker
> I'm even resource-poorer with a PII-400/128MB workstation. One of my boxes is exactly the same. It was running woody, now it's running sarge (2.4). Worked like a charm with woody & windowmaker. Now with sarge & windowmaker, I need to wait some minutes (maybe 5?) to load X. Of course, Firefox and OOo take some time to start, too. But it's useable. After start, it works quite acceptably. In fact, I'm writing this on it just now, even if the other box is an Athlon 1800/ 1 GB RAM... Not tried 2.6 kernel on the PII box, so I don't know about wether it's faster than 2.4. If anyone knows about it, please let me know. > 2. email client that works well (and lightly) in that environment Try sylpheed. It's ligthweight, and feature plenty. You could miss that, even if URLs and addres are not higlighted, you can click on them to see web pages on firefox or reply a mail. If you need a GUI file manager, try endeavourII. Synaptic will work fine. Cheers Roman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: windowmaker
On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 07:20:04PM -0700, Andy Streich wrote: > Hi, > > Based on advice on this list to maestro I'm considering switching to > windowmaker: > > > I no longer have time to spend hours tweaking config files, and thus > > prefer an integrated desktop environment, but GNOME and KDE are too > > bulky for my PIII-650 / 320MB workstation > > I'm even resource-poorer with a PII-400/128MB workstation. I tried KDE, > switched to GNOME, and now am investigating windowmaker. Can anyone give me > pointers to information about what to expect? Specifically, > > 1. resources to learn/understand windowmaker Not much to learn/understand. It is very lightweight, has a decent GUI configuration tool and is very easy to use. > 2. email client that works well (and lightly) in that environment (love > KMail, > but the overhead is too much on my system) I formerly used T-bird, but have since switched to mutt-ng, since it is now (or very soon will be) in Debian and provides all the features I need, including some that T-bird lacked. > 3. package manager, I've been using Synaptic. Am I right in assuming that > aptitude is the way to go in a windowmaker environment or am I reduced to the > command line? Synaptic works just fine. In fact, WindowMaker integrates GNOME, KDE, GTK, Motif, Qt, etc apps very well. Personally, I like aptitude better since I can use from any place I can get shell access (which is more places than from where I can get VNC/XForwarding). > 4. am I just too optimistic that my old system is adequate to run some kind > of > GUI on linux? The GUI is not really the issue. It is the apps. Heavy apps (Moz suite, OpenOffice, etc) will tax your system. A lean GUI will help that by freeing up more resources for the apps. > 5. where do I learn about how to change from booting into a GNOME dm to login > to a windowmaker dm? > If you install wmaker, it will setup the option to log into WindowMaker from GDM. This happens automatically. > FYI I'm a dinosaur that learned programming in FORTRAN with punch cards in > the > '70s. Even in the '80s 128MB of RAM was a supercomputer and people (from HP > if I recall correctly) were writing papers claiming that 50Mhz CPUs were > impossible. I had a neighbor that worked at IBM back when a bunch of kooks claimed that were going to make random access storage media (today we call them hard drives) that were faster and more reliable than tapes :-) I am slowly convincing this former neighbor of the virutes of F/OSS. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~sanchezr pgpLnmyw02eVN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: windowmaker
On Friday 08 July 2005 04:20, Andy Streich wrote: > Hi, > > Based on advice on this list to maestro I'm considering switching to > > windowmaker: > > I no longer have time to spend hours tweaking config files, and thus > > prefer an integrated desktop environment, but GNOME and KDE are too > > bulky for my PIII-650 / 320MB workstation > > I'm even resource-poorer with a PII-400/128MB workstation. I tried KDE, > switched to GNOME, and now am investigating windowmaker. Can anyone give > me pointers to information about what to expect? Specifically, > > 1. resources to learn/understand windowmaker > 2. email client that works well (and lightly) in that environment (love > KMail, but the overhead is too much on my system) > 3. package manager, I've been using Synaptic. Am I right in assuming that > aptitude is the way to go in a windowmaker environment or am I reduced to > the command line? > 4. am I just too optimistic that my old system is adequate to run some > kind of GUI on linux? > 5. where do I learn about how to change from booting into a GNOME dm to > login to a windowmaker dm? 1. Start by using WPrefs to setup various things about WMaker. It does what you want -- relieve you from editing config files. Some things are better configured through wmakerconf, though. Wmakerconf needs to be installed separately. 2. I'll just listen along. I am also attempting to switch from KMail. 3. Synaptic will run, too. As I see it, you don't need to change. However, aptitude will also work perfectly in an xterm or the like. 4. I would definitely not say so. I've run KDE 3.3 rather smoothly on a 233MHz P2 with 56MB of RAM. 5. It would be edited in your ~/.xinitrc. However, I have found it to be enough to edit ~/.xsession, so that it contains the line ``wmaker''. Regards, Anders Breindahl. pgpijXdV713n8.pgp Description: PGP signature
windowmaker
Hi, Based on advice on this list to maestro I'm considering switching to windowmaker: > I no longer have time to spend hours tweaking config files, and thus > prefer an integrated desktop environment, but GNOME and KDE are too > bulky for my PIII-650 / 320MB workstation I'm even resource-poorer with a PII-400/128MB workstation. I tried KDE, switched to GNOME, and now am investigating windowmaker. Can anyone give me pointers to information about what to expect? Specifically, 1. resources to learn/understand windowmaker 2. email client that works well (and lightly) in that environment (love KMail, but the overhead is too much on my system) 3. package manager, I've been using Synaptic. Am I right in assuming that aptitude is the way to go in a windowmaker environment or am I reduced to the command line? 4. am I just too optimistic that my old system is adequate to run some kind of GUI on linux? 5. where do I learn about how to change from booting into a GNOME dm to login to a windowmaker dm? FYI I'm a dinosaur that learned programming in FORTRAN with punch cards in the '70s. Even in the '80s 128MB of RAM was a supercomputer and people (from HP if I recall correctly) were writing papers claiming that 50Mhz CPUs were impossible. Andy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Window sizing on Windowmaker
on Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 09:51:04AM +, Piers Kittel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hello all, > > Have used windowmaker a lot for quite a while on my work and home > computers, but one thing really bugs me is that only a few certain > window, when opened, is sized in crazy sizes. For example, if I open an > email in Thunderbird, the window takes up the full width but only 1cm or > so high, but the other windows (such as writing an new email etc) always > starts up maximised. Another ex, on my home computer, when Thunderbird > starts up, it is about 1cm wide, and a couple inches tall - and no > matter what I do, I can't get those windows to start up maximised? I > know my examples are Thunderbird centric, but it affects other programs. > > Any ideas anyone? Windows should be sized to the dimensions last used, in most cases. Suggestion: - Open the application. - Check that the window isn't set as "maximized". - Size the window to the dimensions desired. - Close the application. - Restart the application. ...are your windows sized as you want? Another option is to bind a hotkey sequence to the "maximize window vertically" function. In my case, does this (set this through the WPrefs utility). So if I get a small window a quick tap fills my monitor vertically. Very useful. I've also got set to maximize fully, though that's something used less often. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die. - Princess Bride signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Window sizing on Windowmaker
Hello all, Have used windowmaker a lot for quite a while on my work and home computers, but one thing really bugs me is that only a few certain window, when opened, is sized in crazy sizes. For example, if I open an email in Thunderbird, the window takes up the full width but only 1cm or so high, but the other windows (such as writing an new email etc) always starts up maximised. Another ex, on my home computer, when Thunderbird starts up, it is about 1cm wide, and a couple inches tall - and no matter what I do, I can't get those windows to start up maximised? I know my examples are Thunderbird centric, but it affects other programs. Any ideas anyone? Thanks very much for your hellp in advance Cheers - Piers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WindowMaker w/ Exceed Colors Washed Out Green
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 22:33:57 -0400 (EDT), Michael B Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I run WindowMaker with the Exceed X server the icons, menus, doc, > dialogs and so on are green. Meaning the color is all washed out. There's > not red. Doesn't happen with GNOME or KDE and it doesn't happen logged > into the machine locally. I've tried switching GDM to KDM without luck. All I can do is confirm I have the same behaviour. No idea how to fix it, but perhaps try another X server? I have had no such problems with the cygwin/x11 server. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WindowMaker w/ Exceed Colors Washed Out Green
Thanks for answering my last question now I have a hard one. If I run WindowMaker with the Exceed X server the icons, menus, doc, dialogs and so on are green. Meaning the color is all washed out. There's not red. Doesn't happen with GNOME or KDE and it doesn't happen logged into the machine locally. I've tried switching GDM to KDM without luck. Any ideas? Thanks, Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What package contains file X? (was: Unable to compile Launch.app (WindowMaker))
Hello!
On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 12:04:10PM -0400, Lee Hanxue wrote:
> Basically, gcc is complaining that WMaker.h cannot be located. I
> looked through the available packages, and I cannot find something
> like wmaker-dev. Is there a package with WindowMaker sources?
Some possibilities:
- apt-file ("apt-get install apt-file", info: "apt-cache show apt-file")
- the online search at <http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages>
- dpkg -S / dlocate (only when package is already installed)
Several alternatives to these ways exist.
HTH,
Flo
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Unable to compile Launch.app (WindowMaker)
I am using WindowMaker 0.80.1-8. I downloaded the Launch.app (part of stepmaker) - http://stepmaker.sourceforge.net/launch.html - source and tried compiling it. Basically, gcc is complaining that WMaker.h cannot be located. I looked through the available packages, and I cannot find something like wmaker-dev. Is there a package with WindowMaker sources? Thank you in advance. Hanxue -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xfree and windowmaker
On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 08:15:35PM +0200, kevin thackray wrote: > not load font > -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-medium-r-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. > Trying fixed. > /usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Applications/WPrefs.app/WPrefs warning: could > not load font > -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. > Trying fixed. > /usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Applications/WPrefs.app/WPrefs warning: could > not load font > -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-medium-r-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. > Trying fixed. > Eterm: Error: Unable to load font > "-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--10-100-75-75-p-56-iso8859-1". > Falling back on "fixed" > > > I have noticed that this has to do with locales also. If I have latin-15, then forget it, several window managers (afterstep, fvwm, etc) will refuse with the same crap. Windowmaker refuses also, but is the less picky. Don know any more. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xfree and windowmaker
It may be a WMaker problem Install wmakerconf (apt-get install wmakerconf). launch it and go to Appearance Tab, you can choose the font for each component. Aurel. kevin thackray wrote: I was using previewsly a slackware so i am not very handy with debian scripts (which i find it quit powerfull). I have a font size problem with my window manager (wmaker) : all my apps aprears really big as osd dispay is ok. in x config i have : == XFConfig-4=== # Font section # This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules Load"type1" Load"speedo" #Load"freetype" #Load"xtt" #FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" #FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" #FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" #FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" #FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" #FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/" #FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/freefont/" #FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" #FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" .. Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen 1" Device "** NVIDIA (generic) [nv]" Monitor "My Monitor" DefaultDepth 24 Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "800x600" "640x480" ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "800x600" ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "800x600" ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection EndSection ===== i also have a file : .xsession-errors : Eterm: Error: Unable to load font "-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--10-100-75-75-p-56-iso8859-1". Fal ling back on "fixed" lumpy:/home/keke# cat /home/keke/.xsession-errors /usr/bin/WindowMaker warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. /usr/bin/WindowMaker warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-bold-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. /usr/bin/WindowMaker warning: Workspace2Key:invalid key in shortcut "Mod1+Mod2+Eacute" /usr/bin/WindowMaker warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-bold-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. /usr/bin/WindowMaker warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. selected locale: en-US /usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Applications/WPrefs.app/WPrefs warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. /usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Applications/WPrefs.app/WPrefs warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-bold-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. /usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Applications/WPrefs.app/WPrefs warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-bold-r-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. /usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Applications/WPrefs.app/WPrefs warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. /usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Applications/WPrefs.app/WPrefs warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-medium-r-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. /usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Applications/WPrefs.app/WPrefs warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-bold-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. /usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Applications/WPrefs.app/WPrefs warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-bold-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. /usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Applications/WPrefs.app/WPrefs warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. /usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Applications/WPrefs.app/WPrefs warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-medium-r-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. /usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Applications/WPrefs.app/WPrefs warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. /usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Applications/WPrefs.app/WPrefs warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-medium-r-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. Eterm: Error: Unable to load font "-adobe-helvetica-medium
xfree and windowmaker
I was using previewsly a slackware so i am not very handy with debian scripts (which i find it quit powerfull). I have a font size problem with my window manager (wmaker) : all my apps aprears really big as osd dispay is ok. in x config i have : == XFConfig-4=== # Font section # This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules Load"type1" Load"speedo" #Load"freetype" #Load"xtt" #FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" #FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" #FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" #FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" #FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" #FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/" #FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/freefont/" #FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" #FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" .. Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen 1" Device "** NVIDIA (generic) [nv]" Monitor "My Monitor" DefaultDepth 24 Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "800x600" "640x480" ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "800x600" ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "800x600" ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection EndSection ===== i also have a file : .xsession-errors : Eterm: Error: Unable to load font "-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--10-100-75-75-p-56-iso8859-1". Fal ling back on "fixed" lumpy:/home/keke# cat /home/keke/.xsession-errors /usr/bin/WindowMaker warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. /usr/bin/WindowMaker warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-bold-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. /usr/bin/WindowMaker warning: Workspace2Key:invalid key in shortcut "Mod1+Mod2+Eacute" /usr/bin/WindowMaker warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-bold-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. /usr/bin/WindowMaker warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. selected locale: en-US /usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Applications/WPrefs.app/WPrefs warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. /usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Applications/WPrefs.app/WPrefs warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-bold-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. /usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Applications/WPrefs.app/WPrefs warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-bold-r-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. /usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Applications/WPrefs.app/WPrefs warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. /usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Applications/WPrefs.app/WPrefs warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-medium-r-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. /usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Applications/WPrefs.app/WPrefs warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-bold-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. /usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Applications/WPrefs.app/WPrefs warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-bold-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. /usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Applications/WPrefs.app/WPrefs warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. /usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Applications/WPrefs.app/WPrefs warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-medium-r-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. /usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Applications/WPrefs.app/WPrefs warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. /usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Applications/WPrefs.app/WPrefs warning: could not load font -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-medium-r-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*. Trying fixed. Eterm: Error: Unable to load font "-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--10-100-75-75-p-56-iso8859-1". Falling back on "fixed" i ran fc-cache and ran xf86Config several time for that but nothing! If anybody have any id that would relieve me from having my ernomous thunderbird :) Regards, Kevin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: icewm and windowmaker
on Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 01:26:59PM +, John Peter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Marc Wilson wrote: > > >On Fri, Nov 28, 2003 at 07:59:20PM +, Antony Gelberg wrote: > > > >>I don't really care, as it works, then again I don't think that editing > >>this file is advisable for the integrity of my system. Did I miss the > >>Debian Way here, or is it a bug / one of those things? > > > >No, you missed the normal X way. > > > >$ echo "exec wmaker" > ~/.xsession > > > >and restart X. > > Can this command be used with any other desktop manager or does > this depend on wich it is ? $ man startx Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? What doesn't kill you makes you stranger. -- Karsten M. Self, misreading as usual, San Marcos Pass Rd., 1988 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: icewm and windowmaker
Marc Wilson wrote: On Fri, Nov 28, 2003 at 07:59:20PM +, Antony Gelberg wrote: I don't really care, as it works, then again I don't think that editing this file is advisable for the integrity of my system. Did I miss the Debian Way here, or is it a bug / one of those things? No, you missed the normal X way. $ echo "exec wmaker" > ~/.xsession and restart X. Can this command be used with any other desktop manager or does this depend on wich it is ? John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: icewm and windowmaker
On Fri, Nov 28, 2003 at 07:59:20PM +, Antony Gelberg wrote: > I don't really care, as it works, then again I don't think that editing > this file is advisable for the integrity of my system. Did I miss the > Debian Way here, or is it a bug / one of those things? No, you missed the normal X way. $ echo "exec wmaker" > ~/.xsession and restart X. -- Marc Wilson | The sheep died in the wool. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
icewm and windowmaker
Hi all, I've just installed windowmaker to have a look at it. (Running unstable.) I was using icewm before. In order to get windowmaker to start, I have to edit /etc/X11/Xsession.d/50xfree86-common_determine-startup - specifically to change: if [ -x /usr/bin/x-session-manager ]; then REALSTARTUP=x-session-manager elif [ -x /usr/bin/x-window-manager ]; then to: # if [ -x /usr/bin/x-session-manager ]; then #REALSTARTUP=x-session-manager if [ -x /usr/bin/x-window-manager ]; then This is because x-session-manager is provided by the installed icewm-session: $ sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager There is only 1 program which provides x-session-manager (/usr/bin/icewm-session). Nothing to configure. I don't really care, as it works, then again I don't think that editing this file is advisable for the integrity of my system. Did I miss the Debian Way here, or is it a bug / one of those things? A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Segfaulting WindowMaker
Karsten M. Self wrote: My suggestion: run X bare (either 'X' or 'startx xterm') from console. Launch windowmaker using strace, and log output. When it crashes next, look at the strace log. Which is likely to be very, very long. One issue I've found with recent (0.7x, 0.8x) WindowMaker releases is that if you get enough application windows up, _if_ WindowMaker needs to restart, then it crashes when switching to workspace #1. Best I can tell, there are too many tiles for it to deal with gracefully. If I close some apps, I can generally get things squared away. This also appears to be resolution dependent -- the more screenspace you have, the more apps you can run. Right now I've got around 55 windows open, on 8 workspaces. Pretty typical. What I ended up doing was apt-getting the source package and building with debugging symbols. I was able to attach to the process, using GDB from a VT, and find the source of the problem. Marcello emailed me when they committed the chage upstream, and I tried out the CVS version, but the bug is now in a different place. It's on the back burner for me ATM since I am defending my thesis next. At least it still works in FreeBSD when I boot that :-) -Roberto pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Segfaulting WindowMaker
on Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 07:00:37PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I had been using Daniel Stone's unofficial Xfree86 4.3 for several > months (which is no longer available). Today I needed to compile > a program for one of my classes which requires that I have the > libxaw7-dev packages installed. Of course since Stone's build is > no longer avilable, I had to update to the experimental Xfree86 > from the Debian repository. > > Of course, my system got seriously b0rked in the process since I > use the proprietary ATi drivers for my Radeon. Anyhow, now WIndow > Maker segfaults whenevery I start it. I get a little window that > says "Window Maker has received a signal 11." Then I get three options > in a little dropdown list: > > -Leave a core file and abort > -Attempt to restart > -Start an alternate window manager > > The abort option just sends me back out to gdm. The restart option > just redisplays the dialog and forces me to choose again. The last > option starts twm. In twm, I get my background image from Window > Maker but no dock apps. > > This is very strange, but I am not sure where to go from here. > I have already uninstalled (purged) all the Window Maker packages > and reinstalled them. I have also tried downgrading and get the same > exact results. My suggestion: run X bare (either 'X' or 'startx xterm') from console. Launch windowmaker using strace, and log output. When it crashes next, look at the strace log. Which is likely to be very, very long. One issue I've found with recent (0.7x, 0.8x) WindowMaker releases is that if you get enough application windows up, _if_ WindowMaker needs to restart, then it crashes when switching to workspace #1. Best I can tell, there are too many tiles for it to deal with gracefully. If I close some apps, I can generally get things squared away. This also appears to be resolution dependent -- the more screenspace you have, the more apps you can run. Right now I've got around 55 windows open, on 8 workspaces. Pretty typical. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? They were both poisoned. I spent the last few years building up an immunity to iocane powder. - Princess Bride pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Segfaulting WindowMaker
I had been using Daniel Stone's unofficial Xfree86 4.3 for several months (which is no longer available). Today I needed to compile a program for one of my classes which requires that I have the libxaw7-dev packages installed. Of course since Stone's build is no longer avilable, I had to update to the experimental Xfree86 from the Debian repository. Of course, my system got seriously b0rked in the process since I use the proprietary ATi drivers for my Radeon. Anyhow, now WIndow Maker segfaults whenevery I start it. I get a little window that says "Window Maker has received a signal 11." Then I get three options in a little dropdown list: -Leave a core file and abort -Attempt to restart -Start an alternate window manager The abort option just sends me back out to gdm. The restart option just redisplays the dialog and forces me to choose again. The last option starts twm. In twm, I get my background image from Window Maker but no dock apps. This is very strange, but I am not sure where to go from here. I have already uninstalled (purged) all the Window Maker packages and reinstalled them. I have also tried downgrading and get the same exact results. -Roberto pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: WindowMaker Attributes
on Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 10:50:31AM +0100, Hendrik Sirges ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi, > > i have some problems changing the window attributes > for an application. unfortunately i turned of the title bar > and the mouse and keyboard shortcuts for that application so i > can not get into the attributes menu by right-clicking on the > titlebar or inconify the application via keyboard. > does anybody know a solution. ...unless you've changed things, it's bound to the Window Properties menu. Covered in the user manual, also in the keybindings section of the WPref tool. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Inconceivable! - Princess Bride signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: WindowMaker Attributes
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Hendrik Sirges wrote: > i have some problems changing the window attributes > for an application. unfortunately i turned of the title bar > and the mouse and keyboard shortcuts for that application so i > can not get into the attributes menu by right-clicking on the > titlebar or inconify the application via keyboard. > does anybody know a solution. Hi Hendrik, Make sure your application is closed. Open a terminal and adjust ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMWindowAttributes with your favorite editor (vim of course `;-). There you can find the block defining the attributes for your application and change them the way you want. Save your changes and restart the application. HTH Grx HdV -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WindowMaker Attributes
Hi, i have some problems changing the window attributes for an application. unfortunately i turned of the title bar and the mouse and keyboard shortcuts for that application so i can not get into the attributes menu by right-clicking on the titlebar or inconify the application via keyboard. does anybody know a solution. greetings, hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
windowmaker
Hello, I'm using WindowMaker for 3 years. I allways used our (lithuanian) charset ISO88598-13 (without problems), and now moved to UTF-8. All the programs are working OK, including mutt-utf8. But WindowMaker doe's not show symbols in window titles corectly. In examle mozilla sets window titlebar text to tag in html code, but other than ascii characters are unreadable. uxterm (xterm -u8) lets set title. The place where I set non ascii symbols seems empty. This is what I use for WindowTitle: WindowTitleFont = "-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-15-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1"; Yes, this font exist in my font list (xlsfonts) :-). (The same font is used for uxterm and it works.) Locale: LC_ALL=lt_LT.UTF-8 It is generated with locale-gen and other applications accept it. Can enybody explain me how can I make WindowMaker work with unicode in titlebar? :-) Regards, Martynas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ot] executing commands from windowmaker
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 08:52:40 +0200 Elie De Brauwer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One of the biggest disadvantages in windowmaker is (imho) that it is > unpossible to execute a command by keyboard in a speedy way. In KDE for > example you have ALT+F2 that pops up a nice 'execute command' box, you > enter the command press enter and the application starts. You can open a run box with the default Debian Window Maker config by this sequence: F12-r-Enter 3 keys, but still quick. PS- Sorry If I broke the threading, I'm replying from a digest mail. I just love Window Maker and had to jump in :). -- Dan Dofton Four County Library System Vestal, NY www.4cls.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ot] executing commands from windowmaker
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Elie De Brauwer wrote: > example you have ALT+F2 that pops up a nice 'execute command' box, you enter > the command press enter and the application starts. > > Is anyone away of a windowmaker alternative ? If you are using /usr/bin/WPrefs to configure windowmaker and to add your own menu items you can use the following to get a "Run" box. You would then add a keyboard shortcut to the menu item. I use "CTRL-ALT r". This is all on one line: x-terminal-emulator -geometry 90x40+115+50 -title "Program Run" -e %a(Run..,Program and Parameters:) Terry. http://haven.selterra.com/ --- Courtenay, BC, Canada -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ot] executing commands from windowmaker
Hi there, sorry for this little of topic question but I have a little windowmaker question and I haven't found a solution to it yet. One of the biggest disadvantages in windowmaker is (imho) that it is unpossible to execute a command by keyboard in a speedy way. In KDE for example you have ALT+F2 that pops up a nice 'execute command' box, you enter the command press enter and the application starts. Is anyone away of a windowmaker alternative ? tia Elie De Brauwer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Success:~> WindowMaker new 'applications' menu ROCKS !
Yay ! It works ! I had some trouble with themes not installing correctly - I often had to manually put files into their individual directories and some simply did not work when installed. Also, wmakerconf kept crashing. Once I had manually (!) deleted them I slept on it and this morning ran /genmenu/, then /wmakerconf/ - and it worked ! To make it even sweeter, the WMaker menu updates from Geir Thorstein Kristiansen's (gtk's) website also worked. Now to get Mutt going again ... Thanks guys, Adam Bogacki, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rodney D. Myers wrote: On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:30:56 +1000 Adam Bogacki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sorry, I'm not trying to be difficult but I've run 'genmenu' but my WM 'applications' program still does not work. All it does is show an 'x' in the right corner when I left or center click it, allowing me to close it. When I ran 'genmenu' it told me that "/root/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu already exists" and asked me whether I should overwrite it. The first time I did, the second time I didn't. Also, /root/GNUstep/Defaults# ls WMRootMenu WMState WindowMaker which looked 'normal' to vi & my untrained eye. What else could be happening here ? Adam Bogacki, [EMAIL PROTECTED] After genmenu runs, you cannot edit it manually, it has to be done through wmakerconf. BTW, why are you running as root? Not a good idea, too many bad things can happen, If you run as a "normal' user, the worse that can happen, is just screwing up one account, your way is to mess the whole system. If it does not find your program(s), then from the shell type "which application(s)", and note the path. From within wmakerconf, find the "folder" you want your application(s) to be stored in, and click add, then copy/paste your application(s) there. A custom windowmaker menu. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re. WindowMaker 'applications' menu inoperative
On Sun, 2003-07-27 at 14:30, Adam Bogacki wrote: > Sorry, I'm not trying to be difficult but I've run 'genmenu' but > my WM 'applications' program still does not work. All it does > is show an 'x' in the right corner when I left or center click it, allowing > me to close it. > > When I ran 'genmenu' it told me that > > "/root/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu already exists" > > and asked me whether I should overwrite it. > The first time I did, the second time I didn't. Also, > > /root/GNUstep/Defaults# ls > WMRootMenu WMState WindowMaker > > which looked 'normal' to vi & my untrained eye. > > What else could be happening here ? Home come to think of it, how does the WMRootMenu file look after a fresh run of genmenu, also which version of genmenu. Also check your console for errors about incorrect proplist format etc. Im not sure if this belongs on the debian list since my genmenu script doesnt come with debian to begin with. Anyway if this is a genmenu bug I would be able to see if the WMRootMenu file is hosed. Geir Kristiansen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re. WindowMaker 'applications' menu inoperative
On Sun, 2003-07-27 at 14:30, Adam Bogacki wrote: > Sorry, I'm not trying to be difficult but I've run 'genmenu' but > my WM 'applications' program still does not work. All it does > is show an 'x' in the right corner when I left or center click it, allowing > me to close it. > > When I ran 'genmenu' it told me that > > "/root/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu already exists" > > and asked me whether I should overwrite it. > The first time I did, the second time I didn't. Also, > > /root/GNUstep/Defaults# ls > WMRootMenu WMState WindowMaker > > which looked 'normal' to vi & my untrained eye. > > What else could be happening here ? Hi, I am the genmenu author. I am unable to reproduce this in Debian sid. I cant really guess at whats wrong here without more info. It could be something weird with your system. Does the regular debian menus work in WindowMaker? Geir Kristiansen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WindowMaker 'applications menu' not working.
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 21:29:17 +1000 Adam Bogacki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Rodney. > > I tried running 'genmenu' as root but Tux replied > 'no such program'. I tried apt-installing it (Debian unstable) but > received the message 'cannot find program'. > > Where does one source 'genmenu'. Should I add something to > /etc/apt/sources.list ? > > Cheers, > > Adam Bogacki, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] I found it via freshmeat. It's precompiled, and can be placed anywhere. I place in ~/home/bin, so it creates my personalized windowmaker menu. That, along with wmakerconf, you can create your own menu items, and sort them any way you choose. -- Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Registered Linux User #96112 ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Re. WindowMaker 'applications' menu inoperative
chat:~$ whatis wmakerconf wmakerconf (1) - configure the Window Maker X window manager I would suggest to take the following steps: apt-get install wmakerconf then run the little program, it has a nice graphical interface, it allows you to manipulate the menus. If this doesn't help, check this site http://largo.windowmaker.org/user-guide/toc.htm I couldn't figure out how to resize the windows in windowmaker, and this site shows very nicely. After this, the only thing that was stopping me from choosing window maker as my favorite window manager has dissapeared. On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:30:56 +1000 Adam Bogacki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry, I'm not trying to be difficult but I've run 'genmenu' but > my WM 'applications' program still does not work. All it does > is show an 'x' in the right corner when I left or center click it, > allowing me to close it. > > When I ran 'genmenu' it told me that > > "/root/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu already exists" > > and asked me whether I should overwrite it. > The first time I did, the second time I didn't. Also, > > /root/GNUstep/Defaults# ls > WMRootMenu WMState WindowMaker > > which looked 'normal' to vi & my untrained eye. > > What else could be happening here ? > > Adam Bogacki, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re. WindowMaker 'applications' menu inoperative
Sorry, I'm not trying to be difficult but I've run 'genmenu' but my WM 'applications' program still does not work. All it does is show an 'x' in the right corner when I left or center click it, allowing me to close it. When I ran 'genmenu' it told me that "/root/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu already exists" and asked me whether I should overwrite it. The first time I did, the second time I didn't. Also, /root/GNUstep/Defaults# ls WMRootMenu WMState WindowMaker which looked 'normal' to vi & my untrained eye. What else could be happening here ? Adam Bogacki, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE; WIndowMaker 'applications' menu not working
Apologies. I've found the 'genmenu' home page. Most humble grovel, grovel, grovel :-[ Adam Bogacki, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WindowMaker 'applications menu' not working.
Thanks Rodney. I tried running 'genmenu' as root but Tux replied 'no such program'. I tried apt-installing it (Debian unstable) but received the message 'cannot find program'. Where does one source 'genmenu'. Should I add something to /etc/apt/sources.list ? Cheers, Adam Bogacki, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WindowMaker 'applications' menu SNAFU ...
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 10:07:55 +1000 Adam Bogacki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry for the WWII jargon but I've installed some themes into > > ~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/Themes > > but the 'applications' menu does not show any. In fact it has not been > working at all in this WM installation, but has not troubled me until > now. > > Any ideas out there ? > > Adam Bogacki, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Look for a program called "genmenu". It'll generate a windowmaker applications menus'. -- Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Registered Linux User #96112 ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
WindowMaker 'applications' menu SNAFU ...
Sorry for the WWII jargon but I've installed some themes into ~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/Themes but the 'applications' menu does not show any. In fact it has not been working at all in this WM installation, but has not troubled me until now. Any ideas out there ? Adam Bogacki, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: windowmaker not showing icons for running applications
Hi The pixmap path and the icon path can be used for wmaker specific images for the various applications. But doesnt the application itself choose an icon at runtime, when it is getting started. That icon doesnt get used by wmaker, whereas in other window managers (icewm,kde etc), it works. For example, if i am building a custom application, wmaker wont show the icon set from the application whereas the other window managers display it. Is there someway to make wmaker use the icon set by the application at runtime? Regards & Thanks in Advance! On Sat, 2003-07-12 at 13:54, Roman Joost wrote: > On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 09:55:21AM +0530, K S Sreeram wrote: > > [debian sarge] > > But is there someway to make wmaker pick up the application icons > > automatically. > > > > I usually run most of my apps using the 'Run...' dialog > > > Maybe your pixmap paths are not setup correctly. I've the same problem > for some of my programs, but in most times it works correctly. You can > set you pixmap paths in the "wmakerconf" tool or by hand with an > editor in $HOME/GNUStep/Defaults/Windowmaker. > > There are two entrys: Pixmap- and Iconpath. Iam not shure, which path is > to set correctly, but i think, that the iconpath must be verified. > > I hope, it'll help ... > > Greetings, > -- > Roman Joost > www: http://www.romanofski.de > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- K S Sreeram Director of Research Tachyon Technologies Pvt. Ltd. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: windowmaker not showing icons for running applications
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 09:55:21AM +0530, K S Sreeram wrote: > [debian sarge] > But is there someway to make wmaker pick up the application icons > automatically. > > I usually run most of my apps using the 'Run...' dialog > Maybe your pixmap paths are not setup correctly. I've the same problem for some of my programs, but in most times it works correctly. You can set you pixmap paths in the "wmakerconf" tool or by hand with an editor in $HOME/GNUStep/Defaults/Windowmaker. There are two entrys: Pixmap- and Iconpath. Iam not shure, which path is to set correctly, but i think, that the iconpath must be verified. I hope, it'll help ... Greetings, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
