Re: xdm login infinite loop

2009-07-20 Thread Javier Barroso
Hi,
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:22 PM, whollyg...@letterboxes.org wrote:
 I can't login in graphically.  My password is
 accepted, the screen goes blank and flickers like
 when it is starting up a session, then just
 returns me to the login display.

 I'm using xfce and xdm on a thinkpad i series
 laptop.

 I know my password is being accepted because
 the screen behaviour is different for a wrong
 password.

 /var/log/Xorg.0.log, /var/log/xdm.log and /var/log/auth.log
 are all being touched without any input being added
 to the files.  In fact, xdm.log and Xorg.0.log are
 both zero length files (nothing has been written
 to them.

 The only messages are in .xsession-errors, but
 googling seems to indicate that they are innocuous:

 - .xsession-errors excerpt --
 ** (x-session-manager:2398): WARNING **: xfsm-shutdown-helper.c:134:
 Failed to contact HAL: Rejected send message, 3 matched rules;
 type=method_call, sender=:1.6 (uid=1000 pid=2398
 comm=x-session-manager )
 interface=org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.SystemPowerManagement
 member=ThisMethodMustNotExistInHal error name=(unset)
 requested_reply=0 destination=org.freedesktop.Hal (uid=0 pid=2175
 comm=/usr/sbin/hald ))
 ** Message: xfsm-shutdown-helper.c:215: HAL not available or does not
 permit to shutdown/reboot the computer, trying sudo fallback instead.
 xfce4-tips: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X
 server :0.0.
 xfce-mcs-manager: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable)
 on X server :0.0.
 - end excerpt -

It is likely hal is not working for you. What does /etc/init.d/hal status say ?

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Solved, re: xdm login infinite loop

2009-07-20 Thread whollygoat
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:35 +0200, Javier Barroso
javibarr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:22 PM, whollyg...@letterboxes.org wrote:
  I can't login in graphically.  My password is
  accepted, the screen goes blank and flickers like
  when it is starting up a session, then just
  returns me to the login display.
 
  I'm using xfce and xdm on a thinkpad i series
  laptop.
 
  I know my password is being accepted because
  the screen behaviour is different for a wrong
  password.
 
  /var/log/Xorg.0.log, /var/log/xdm.log and /var/log/auth.log
  are all being touched without any input being added
  to the files.  In fact, xdm.log and Xorg.0.log are
  both zero length files (nothing has been written
  to them.
 
  The only messages are in .xsession-errors, but
  googling seems to indicate that they are innocuous:
 
  - .xsession-errors excerpt --
  ** (x-session-manager:2398): WARNING **: xfsm-shutdown-helper.c:134:
  Failed to contact HAL: Rejected send message, 3 matched rules;
  type=method_call, sender=:1.6 (uid=1000 pid=2398
  comm=x-session-manager )
  interface=org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.SystemPowerManagement
  member=ThisMethodMustNotExistInHal error name=(unset)
  requested_reply=0 destination=org.freedesktop.Hal (uid=0 pid=2175
  comm=/usr/sbin/hald ))
  ** Message: xfsm-shutdown-helper.c:215: HAL not available or does not
  permit to shutdown/reboot the computer, trying sudo fallback instead.
  xfce4-tips: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X
  server :0.0.
  xfce-mcs-manager: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable)
  on X server :0.0.
  - end excerpt -
 
 It is likely hal is not working for you. What does /etc/init.d/hal status
 say ?

hald is running.  The problem, it turns out,
was related to the zero length xdm.log and Xorg.0.log
files.  They were zero lenth because the partition
they were on was full.  As soon as I fixed the 
space problem, the xdm login loop was broken.  I guess
something wanted absolutely to write to the logs before 
it would create a session.

Thanks.  Sorry I didn't terminate the thread.

will

Now, if only I could figure out why the vt's all go black
after starting X

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xdm login infinite loop

2009-07-10 Thread whollygoat
I can't login in graphically.  My password is
accepted, the screen goes blank and flickers like
when it is starting up a session, then just
returns me to the login display.

I'm using xfce and xdm on a thinkpad i series
laptop.

I know my password is being accepted because
the screen behaviour is different for a wrong
password.

/var/log/Xorg.0.log, /var/log/xdm.log and /var/log/auth.log
are all being touched without any input being added 
to the files.  In fact, xdm.log and Xorg.0.log are
both zero length files (nothing has been written
to them.

The only messages are in .xsession-errors, but
googling seems to indicate that they are innocuous:

- .xsession-errors excerpt --
** (x-session-manager:2398): WARNING **: xfsm-shutdown-helper.c:134:
Failed to contact HAL: Rejected send message, 3 matched rules;
type=method_call, sender=:1.6 (uid=1000 pid=2398
comm=x-session-manager )
interface=org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.SystemPowerManagement
member=ThisMethodMustNotExistInHal error name=(unset)
requested_reply=0 destination=org.freedesktop.Hal (uid=0 pid=2175
comm=/usr/sbin/hald ))
** Message: xfsm-shutdown-helper.c:215: HAL not available or does not
permit to shutdown/reboot the computer, trying sudo fallback instead.
xfce4-tips: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X
server :0.0.
xfce-mcs-manager: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable)
on X server :0.0.
- end excerpt -

I vaguely recall someone experiencing something
similar, but my googling didn't turn up anything

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xscreensaver and XDM login window

2008-06-28 Thread David Witbrodt
Has anyone on this list who runs XDM tried to get the 'xscreensaver'
to run on the login screen?  The 'man' page gives some instructions,
but those do not work for me.  In fact, the suggestion to place

xhost +localhost

in /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config does not work.  On my system, the way to 
run GUI apps as root under XOrg is more like this:

xhost +local:root

Using this in 'xdm-config' prevents the startup breakage, but still
does not allow 'xscreensaver' to run.

This is a matter of curiosity, just to see if anyone has been able
to get it working.  The 'xscreensaver' runs fine once my regular
user logs in, and I have the XOrg DPMS settings adjusted so that
the monitor blanks if no one logs in to the XDM login within 5
minutes.


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Re: font change after kdm/xdm login

2007-11-05 Thread Lubos Vrbka

hi,


Does it substitute a different font (family) or does it show the same
font rendered differently (larger/smaller, blurrier/more ragged, etc.)?

i think it's the same font, but after kdm login it's renderend smaller
and (subjectively) not so sharp.


I would start by comparing the output of these commands for the two
situations:

ok, here goes the comparison.


xdpyinfo | grep resolution

$ diff _xdm.log _kdm.log
1c1
   resolution:100x100 dots per inch
---

  resolution:85x83 dots per inch



xrdb -query | grep Xft

no difference (empty output)


fc-list | grep -i arial

no difference


xlsfonts | grep arial
(The last one produces 162 lines of output on my system, so you might
 want to use diff.)

no difference, i have 81 lines of output and it seems to be reasonable.

so as it seemed that dpi is the problem, i set in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc

ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp -dpi 100

and now it works fine! later i also discovered that for xdm i 
explicitely also have the option -dpi 100


thanks for help!

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Re: font change after kdm/xdm login

2007-11-05 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 10:37:18AM +0100, Lubos Vrbka wrote:

 and now it works fine! later i also discovered that for xdm i explicitely 
 also have the option -dpi 100

 thanks for help!

Theoretically the *correct* dpi setting (whether you like it or not) 
should be set by the X server if you put your monitor's physical 
dimensions in xorg.conf

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Re: font change after kdm/xdm login

2007-11-05 Thread Lubos Vrbka

  Theoretically the *correct* dpi setting (whether you like it or not)
should be set by the X server if you put your monitor's physical 
dimensions in xorg.conf
right. problem is that this is a notebook (i945gm chipset) and i am 
attaching an external monitor to it. i haven't been able to figure out 
how to make the lfp and external lcd work at the same time yet. i have 
at the moment just a single 'monitor' section and it works good for both 
internal and external lcd. but it also means, that i can't specify exact 
physical dimensions.


anyway, the '-dpi 100' trick works fine in both cases.

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font change after kdm/xdm login

2007-11-02 Thread Lubos Vrbka

hi guys,

i am using enlightenment 0.16 as my window manager. up to now i was 
using xdm as my login manager. recently, i tried to install and use kdm...


then, fonts in several applications (e.g., psi, iceweasel, conky, ...) 
differ when i log in using xdm (the fonts i am used to - optimized for 
my desktop) and kdm (different fonts than i am used to, so they don't 
look well and my desktop customization is gone). for me it seems that, 
e.g. 'arial:size=8' used in psi after login with xdm, is a completely 
different from arial:size=8 font used in psi after login with kdm.


could anybody shed some light in this, please? probably some kdm config 
issue? is it somehow setting some environment variables that are 
changing font handling/preference/...?


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Re: font change after kdm/xdm login

2007-11-02 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 09:39:08 +0100, Lubos Vrbka wrote:
 hi guys,

 i am using enlightenment 0.16 as my window manager. up to now i was using 
 xdm as my login manager. recently, i tried to install and use kdm...

 then, fonts in several applications (e.g., psi, iceweasel, conky, ...) 
 differ when i log in using xdm (the fonts i am used to - optimized for my 
 desktop) and kdm (different fonts than i am used to, so they don't look 
 well and my desktop customization is gone). for me it seems that, e.g. 
 'arial:size=8' used in psi after login with xdm, is a completely different 
 from arial:size=8 font used in psi after login with kdm.

Does it substitute a different font (family) or does it show the same
font rendered differently (larger/smaller, blurrier/more ragged, etc.)?

 could anybody shed some light in this, please? probably some kdm config 
 issue? is it somehow setting some environment variables that are changing 
 font handling/preference/...?

I would start by comparing the output of these commands for the two
situations:

xdpyinfo | grep resolution

xrdb -query | grep Xft

fc-list | grep -i arial

xlsfonts | grep arial

(The last one produces 162 lines of output on my system, so you might
 want to use diff.)

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Re: Setup script for XDM login screen

2006-02-26 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 01:14:12AM +0100, Björn Lindström wrote:
 Where is the right place to put stuff that you want to run when
 starting XDM now.

Still in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup.

 but it's not working anymore with xdm-6.9.0.dfsg.1-4

Actually the XSF broke it without notice (and no changelog entry) back in
6.9.0-1.  See bug #347857.

You can fix it by adding the line back to xdm-config:

rei $ grep Xsetup /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config
DisplayManager*setup:   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup

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Re: Setup script for XDM login screen

2006-02-25 Thread Michael M.

Björn Lindström wrote:

Where is the right place to put stuff that you want to run when
starting XDM now.

I used to have this in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup:

#!/bin/sh
xsetroot -solid dimgrey

but it's not working anymore with xdm-6.9.0.dfsg.1-4


I use gdm rather than xdm, but I was googling around a few weeks ago 
about start-up stuff and I came away with the understanding that you can 
always use ~/.xsession.  IIRC, there was some helpful and not-too-dated 
documentation at the Linux Documentation Project.


Anyway, ~/.xsession is where I put my X start-up apps and settings.

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Re: Setup script for XDM login screen

2006-02-25 Thread Björn Lindström
Michael M. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I use gdm rather than xdm, but I was googling around a few weeks ago
 about start-up stuff and I came away with the understanding that you
 can always use ~/.xsession.  IIRC, there was some helpful and
 not-too-dated documentation at the Linux Documentation Project.

 Anyway, ~/.xsession is where I put my X start-up apps and settings.

No, no. This is stuff I need to run when XDM starts. Specifically to
get rid of the ugly default X background.


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Setup script for XDM login screen

2006-02-24 Thread Björn Lindström
Where is the right place to put stuff that you want to run when
starting XDM now.

I used to have this in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup:

#!/bin/sh
xsetroot -solid dimgrey

but it's not working anymore with xdm-6.9.0.dfsg.1-4


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XDM-Login langsam nach Wechsel

2003-09-26 Thread Jörn Franke
Hallo,
ich habe Debian 3.0 installiert und verwende Fvwm 2.4.6.
Nach dem Wechsel von Xserver 3.3.6 auf 4.1.0 dauert es locker zehn (!) 
Sekunden bis nach dem Start des Xservers der Login über XDM möglich ist.
Auflösung Wiederholferquenz und so weiter sind dann schon längst 
eingestellt.
Das selbe Verhalten zeigt sich wenn ich Fvwm beende.
Die Konsolenmeldungen vom Xserver geben für mir keinen Hinweis.
Hat da jemand einen Tip?
Gruß, Jörn.

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Re: XDM-Login langsam nach Wechsel

2003-09-26 Thread Joerg Rieger
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 08:56:09PM +0200, Jörn Franke wrote:
 ich habe Debian 3.0 installiert und verwende Fvwm 2.4.6.
 Nach dem Wechsel von Xserver 3.3.6 auf 4.1.0 dauert es locker zehn (!) 
 Sekunden bis nach dem Start des Xservers der Login über XDM möglich ist.
 Auflösung Wiederholferquenz und so weiter sind dann schon längst 
 eingestellt.

Ruf als root mal fc-cache auf.

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Re: Displaying Output on xdm login screen

2002-11-25 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 07:58:53PM +, Doug MacFarlane wrote:
 BTW - I figured it out - put the command in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup . . . 

xdm probably runs as root, so you'll want to be careful with what you
run on the login screen, since anyone who walks up to your machine will
fairly trivially be able to get root access.

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Re: Displaying Output on xdm login screen

2002-11-25 Thread Doug MacFarlane
On 25 Nov 2002, 21:43:56, Rob Weir wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 07:58:53PM +, Doug MacFarlane wrote:
  BTW - I figured it out - put the command in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup . . .=20
 
 xdm probably runs as root, so you'll want to be careful with what you
 run on the login screen, since anyone who walks up to your machine will
 fairly trivially be able to get root access.

Thanks for the tip.  I thought about that, and all I'm running, in addition
to xconsole, is gkrellm with the -nc (non-configurable) switch.  

I have no way to physically secure the system, and they wanted an easy way
to tell if it was up.  So running gkrellm as root on the xdm display is safer
than leaving an account logged in and running gkrellm on that user's desktop.

A couple of questions:

1.  Do any of the various xdm replacements (gdm, et. al.) not run as root?

2.  Could I run this instantiation of gkrellm as an ordinary user and have
it display on the root xdm (or gdm or whatever) login window?

TIA

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Re: Displaying Output on xdm login screen

2002-11-25 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 01:42:02PM +, Doug MacFarlane wrote:
 On 25 Nov 2002, 21:43:56, Rob Weir wrote:
  On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 07:58:53PM +, Doug MacFarlane wrote:
   BTW - I figured it out - put the command in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup . . .=20
  
  xdm probably runs as root, so you'll want to be careful with what you
  run on the login screen, since anyone who walks up to your machine will
  fairly trivially be able to get root access.
 
 Thanks for the tip.  I thought about that, and all I'm running, in addition
 to xconsole, is gkrellm with the -nc (non-configurable) switch.  
 
 I have no way to physically secure the system, and they wanted an easy way
 to tell if it was up.  So running gkrellm as root on the xdm display is safer
 than leaving an account logged in and running gkrellm on that user's desktop.
 
 A couple of questions:
 
 1.  Do any of the various xdm replacements (gdm, et. al.) not run as root?

Not sure, but I doubt it.  ?dm has to effectively su to whichever user
logs on, and this requires root priveleges.  Well, as far as I know...

 2.  Could I run this instantiation of gkrellm as an ordinary user and have
 it display on the root xdm (or gdm or whatever) login window?

Yes, you can.  You just need to let that particular user have access to
the display XDM is running on.  man xauth should reveal the answer.

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Displaying Output on xdm login screen

2002-11-21 Thread Doug MacFarlane

Is there a way, with xdm (or gdm or some other login display manager) to
display the output of a program running in the background, say gkrellm or
top?  Similar to how the console is displayed?

I have a system that froze on the login screen and the clients looked at
it and saw the login screen and assumed the machine was running (none of
them have logins on the debian box) . . . they asked for an easy way to determine

if it was running, as if it's going to hang every day or so . . .

So, if I could give them the pretty gkrellm monitors on the xdm login screen,
they'd think that was really kewl . . .

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Re: Displaying Output on xdm login screen

2002-11-21 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 13:27, Doug MacFarlane wrote:
 
 Is there a way, with xdm (or gdm or some other login display manager) to
 display the output of a program running in the background, say gkrellm or
 top?  Similar to how the console is displayed?
 
 I have a system that froze on the login screen and the clients looked at
 it and saw the login screen and assumed the machine was running (none of
 them have logins on the debian box) . . . they asked for an easy way to determine
 
 if it was running, as if it's going to hang every day or so . . .
 
 So, if I could give them the pretty gkrellm monitors on the xdm login screen,
 they'd think that was really kewl . . .
 
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Seems to me that at least one of them has a setting that runs xconsole
on a window beside the login window, and ISTR seeing a fishtank dynamic
wallpaper running underneath the login window. If those work, you likely
could get away with specifying a V4L feed on the desktop - see what
reaction you would get with a webcam displaying on the desktop the
images of the person at the keyboard as they are logging in...
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Re: Displaying Output on xdm login screen

2002-11-21 Thread Doug MacFarlane
On 21 Nov 2002, 14:42:06, Mark L. Kahnt wrote:
 On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 13:27, Doug MacFarlane wrote:
 =20
  Is there a way, with xdm (or gdm or some other login display manager) to
  display the output of a program running in the background, say gkrellm or
  top?  Similar to how the console is displayed?
 
 Seems to me that at least one of them has a setting that runs xconsole
 on a window beside the login window, and ISTR seeing a fishtank dynamic
 wallpaper running underneath the login window. If those work, you likely
 could get away with specifying a V4L feed on the desktop - see what
 reaction you would get with a webcam displaying on the desktop the
 images of the person at the keyboard as they are logging in...

I LOVE that idea   Talk about freaky . . . people would walk by and look
at themselves on the screen like they do for the hand-held video cameras
at Best Buy!!

;-) 

BTW - I figured it out - put the command in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup . . . 

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Re: XDM login nur als root user - client 2 rejected from local host

2002-10-07 Thread Markus Kolb

Matthias Schmidt wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 05, 2002 at 02:44:20AM +0200, Markus Kolb wrote:
 
 
Da wurde ich nach ein wenig Laden sofort wieder zum xdm-Login befördert.
XFree-log hat ein paar Einträge: AUDIT: `LANG=en_EN; date` ... X: client 
2 rejected from local host.
[...]

 Möglicherweise ist auch die Partition, auf der /home liegt, so gut wie
 voll, sodaß den Usern kein Schreibzugriff mehr erlaubt ist.

Da hätte ich doch beinahe geschrieben, dass das nicht der Fall ist.
Habe aber doch nochmal nachgeguckt und siehe da: 100% ;o((
Hätte ich auch selber darauf kommen können.
Hab ich wohl installiert und installiert und das update gemacht und es 
war zuviel für die eingerichtete Partition ;)

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XDM login nur als root user - client 2 rejected from local host

2002-10-04 Thread Markus Kolb

Hallo,

ich habe eben aus der Console mein Woody geupdated und wollte 
anschliessend xdm starten und mich als normaler user einloggen.
Da wurde ich nach ein wenig Laden sofort wieder zum xdm-Login befördert.
XFree-log hat ein paar Einträge: AUDIT: `LANG=en_EN; date` ... X: client 
2 rejected from local host.
Im xdm.log stehen die gleichen Zeilen.
Ausserdem ist in beiden logs noch der Eintrag:
PEXExtensionInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file  Roman_M
Daran sollte der Login aber nicht scheitern.

Als root könnte ich mich einloggen.
Habe testweise auch mal noch einen neuen User angelegt, um 
festzustellen, ob es an User-Einstellungen liegt. Dem ist aber nicht so. 
Der neu angelegte User wird genauso rausgeschmissen.

Google und Google-Groups bringt zwar Haufenweise Fragen zu ähnlichen 
Problemen, aber keine nützlichen Antworten. Meistens haben die Threads 
genau ein Posting. Sehr hilfreich ;o)

Kann mir jemand Tipps geben, wie ich das beheben kann? Nachdem ich 
absolut nichts seit dem letzten erfolgreichen Login verändert habe, bis 
auf das heutige Update, stehe ich momentan auf dem Schlauch ...
Habe schon /etc/X11/ abgesucht, aber nichts verdächtiges gefunden.

cu


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[grisu@debian.org: Re: xdm-login für root?]

2002-04-08 Thread Michael Bramer

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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 06:53:47 +0200
From: Michael Bramer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jörn Franke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: xdm-login für root?

On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 10:53:08PM +0200, Jörn Franke wrote:
 Was wer wie warum will muß jeder für sich selbst entscheiden:
 Ich jedenfalls habe zu Linux gewechselt weil alles offengelegt ist.
 Mit seinem Wissen zu geizen hat sich erfahrungsgemäß als Bummerang
 erwiesen.
 Nach einem qualifizierten Hinweis funktioniert auch o.g. Login.

ich möchte nicht geizen. Der Hinweis wurde ja schon gegeben. Nur wollte
ich die Warnung doch schreiben...

 Michael Bramer wrote:
  
  On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 09:54:27PM +0100, Jörn Franke wrote:
   vor kurzem hbe ich bereits mal angefragt ob es möglich ist sich als root
   über xdm grafisch einzuloggen. Wenn ich mich recht erinnere hat das vor
   ein oder zwei Jahren auf meinem System mal funktioniert. Leider weis ich
   nicht mehr wie ich das hin bekommen habe und find auch nichts dazu...
   Hat mir jemand einen Rat?
  
  Es ist möglich, aber das möchtest du nicht ... Glaub uns...
  
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xdm-login für root?

2002-03-25 Thread Jörn Franke

Hallo zusammen,

vor kurzem hbe ich bereits mal angefragt ob es möglich ist sich als root
über xdm grafisch einzuloggen. Wenn ich mich recht erinnere hat das vor
ein oder zwei Jahren auf meinem System mal funktioniert. Leider weis ich
nicht mehr wie ich das hin bekommen habe und find auch nichts dazu...
Hat mir jemand einen Rat?

Danke und Gruß, Jörn.


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Re: xdm-login für root?

2002-03-25 Thread Dirk Weiser

Grüss dich,

also beim gdm musst du in:

/etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf

die option: allowroot=false ändern.

ich vermute, dass es bei xdm ähnlich wenn nicht sogar genauso ist.

gruss
dirk w.
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 Hallo zusammen,

 vor kurzem hbe ich bereits mal angefragt ob es möglich ist sich als root
 über xdm grafisch einzuloggen. Wenn ich mich recht erinnere hat das vor
 ein oder zwei Jahren auf meinem System mal funktioniert. Leider weis ich
 nicht mehr wie ich das hin bekommen habe und find auch nichts dazu...
 Hat mir jemand einen Rat?

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Re: /etc/environment, and xdm/login/pam

2002-01-11 Thread Brenda J. Butler
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 03:41:54PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
 also sprach Mark Ferlatte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.11.0948 +0100]:
  /etc/environment is read by the pam_env.so PAM module.  If you don't
  have
  
  auth required pam_env.so
  
  in whichever /etc/pam.d/* correspondes to your login system.

My /etc/pam.d/login does have that line (uncommented even).
That was the one clue I saw about how /etc/environment is
used.  Is there no documentation anywhere (linux documentation
I mean, as opposed to AIX documentation :-)?  /etc/environment
isn't even mentioned in the pam man-page, and I don't have
any pam info in /usr/share/doc...

Well later I'll try google Linux-PAM system administrator's
guide (this name mentioned in the pam man page) and see what
turns up.  Just now I have to get back to work.

  I used gdm, which supports pam... not sure if xdm does.  If it doesn't,
  then /etc/environment won't work for you.
 
 but why did the /etc/environment trick fix my Perl complaining about
 locales? but then, i can't find that debian-user post which solved it
 for me, and i can't reproduce the perl problems. oh well...

Maybe I happen to have the in-between distro that has the new
/etc/environment, before they started sourcing /etc/environment
from /etc/X11/Xsession (I'm guessing that they might have
changed the system to do this)?  I assume you have a distro
dated after 2.2R2.  Everyone does :-)

Also maybe you start X from your console after logging in,
in which case your X processes would inherit your environment
which has been initialized properly from your console login.

Or maybe they changed xdm logins to use the real login
(with pam).  Indeed, I just tried a login to xdm, and nothing
shows up in auth.log.

How can I make my xdm login use pam?

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Re: /etc/environment, and xdm/login/pam

2002-01-11 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Brenda J. Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.11.1803 +0100]:
 Maybe I happen to have the in-between distro that has the new
 /etc/environment, before they started sourcing /etc/environment
 from /etc/X11/Xsession (I'm guessing that they might have
 changed the system to do this)?  I assume you have a distro
 dated after 2.2R2.  Everyone does :-)

slink still handles my print server ;)

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Re: xdm login problems

2001-08-01 Thread Debian GNU

Hi

I also got the same error when I uninstalled xdm,  and
re-installed it later. I couldn't find any solution
till now and I am also interested in a solution. I
installed gdm as a substitute for temporary operation.

Rds,

Deb
--- Pedro Quaresma de Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Andy Saxena writes:
   On Monday July 30 2001 14:46, Pedro Quaresma de
 Almeida wrote:
Hi
   
my xdm setup is broken... :(
   
When I try to run xdm, it starts nicely showing
 the login-screen but
when I try to login it fails returning to the
 xdm login-screen.
   
Whats the problem?
   
Can you help me? Thank you.
   
   You need to provide more details. When you say
 it fails exactly what 
   happens? Does the login screen reappear after
 disappearing for a second? Or 
   do you get another message?
   
   -Andy
   
 
 Trying to provide more info.
 
 i) xdm starts and show the login/password screen :)
 
 ii) I provide my username and password :)
 
 iii) the login/password screen disappears :)
 
 iv) the user's X session does not begin, instead the
 X servers is
  initialised (it seems like that) and the
 login/password screen
  reappears :(
 
 I am trying to look in the /etc/X11/xdm/ files for
 something wrong but
 without any luck...
 
 The end of the file /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-errors looks
 like this
 
  AUDIT: Tue Jul 31 10:28:47 2001: 2324 X: client 3
 rejected from local host
Auth name: XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 ID: -1
  Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
  Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
  xmodmap:  unable to open display ':0'
  (--) SVGA: Read OPTION 0x40079121
  xdm error (pid 2371): fatal IO error 32 (Broken
 pipe)
 
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Re: xdm login problems

2001-08-01 Thread James Preston
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Hi,

When xdm exits straight back to the login prompt again, it
usually indicate a problem with the configuration scripts
and/or your window manager.

One rough fumble-blindly solution would be to reinstall xdm and your
window manager (perhaps with a purge'd remove first) and you'll likely
get back to a working state.  Not ideal.

Other things to check for (I'm not the xdm package manager obviously,
to YMMV):

  - check the permission of the files run by xdm, especially those
in your home director: eg. .xinitrc, .xsession (either/both)

  - check the .xinit.err file (if any)

  - make sure you can run your wm (eg. just run fvwm from the
command line and you should get unable to open display and
no some link error)

On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 01:01:52AM -0700, Debian GNU wrote:
  Andy Saxena writes:
[...]
  X servers is
   initialised (it seems like that) and the
  login/password screen
   reappears :(
  
   AUDIT: Tue Jul 31 10:28:47 2001: 2324 X: client 3
  rejected from local host
 Auth name: XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 ID: -1
   Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
   Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
   xmodmap:  unable to open display ':0'
   (--) SVGA: Read OPTION 0x40079121
   xdm error (pid 2371): fatal IO error 32 (Broken
  pipe)

This specific error say that the X client library (Xlib) wasn't able to
connect to the server.  This shouldn't happen with xdm as it should set
up the .Xauthority file for you (the Xstartup script).  You could
perhaps remove the ~/.Xauthority file and restart xdm (ie.
ctrl-alt-backspace):  perhaps the file can't be written to. (??)

The fact the xmodmap is also running (and failing) says that your
start-up script is probably okay.

Hope some of the above leads you to a solution,

James.

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Re: xdm login problems

2001-07-31 Thread Andy Saxena
On Monday July 30 2001 14:46, Pedro Quaresma de Almeida wrote:
 Hi

 my xdm setup is broken... :(

 When I try to run xdm, it starts nicely showing the login-screen but
 when I try to login it fails returning to the xdm login-screen.

 Whats the problem?

 Can you help me? Thank you.

You need to provide more details. When you say it fails exactly what 
happens? Does the login screen reappear after disappearing for a second? Or 
do you get another message?

-Andy



Re: xdm login problems

2001-07-31 Thread Pedro Quaresma de Almeida
Andy Saxena writes:
  On Monday July 30 2001 14:46, Pedro Quaresma de Almeida wrote:
   Hi
  
   my xdm setup is broken... :(
  
   When I try to run xdm, it starts nicely showing the login-screen but
   when I try to login it fails returning to the xdm login-screen.
  
   Whats the problem?
  
   Can you help me? Thank you.
  
  You need to provide more details. When you say it fails exactly what 
  happens? Does the login screen reappear after disappearing for a second? Or 
  do you get another message?
  
  -Andy
  

Trying to provide more info.

i) xdm starts and show the login/password screen :)

ii) I provide my username and password :)

iii) the login/password screen disappears :)

iv) the user's X session does not begin, instead the X servers is
 initialised (it seems like that) and the login/password screen
 reappears :(

I am trying to look in the /etc/X11/xdm/ files for something wrong but
without any luck...

The end of the file /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-errors looks like this

 AUDIT: Tue Jul 31 10:28:47 2001: 2324 X: client 3 rejected from local host
   Auth name: XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 ID: -1
 Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
 Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
 xmodmap:  unable to open display ':0'
 (--) SVGA: Read OPTION 0x40079121
 xdm error (pid 2371): fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe)

Thanks.

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Fwd: Re: xdm login problems

2001-07-31 Thread Andy Saxena
Andy Saxena writes:
  On Monday July 30 2001 14:46, Pedro Quaresma de Almeida wrote:
   Hi
  
   my xdm setup is broken... :(
  
   When I try to run xdm, it starts nicely showing the login-screen but
   when I try to login it fails returning to the xdm login-screen.
  
   Whats the problem?
  
   Can you help me? Thank you.
 
  You need to provide more details. When you say it fails exactly what
  happens? Does the login screen reappear after disappearing for a
  second? Or
  do you get another message?
 
  -Andy

Pedro said:

Thank you for your answer.

Trying to provide more info.

i) xdm starts and show the login/password screen :)

ii) I provide my username and password :)

iii) the login/password screen disappears :)

iv) the user's X session does not begin, instead the X servers is
initialised (it seems like that) and the login/password screen
reappears :(

I am trying to look in the /etc/X11/xdm/ files for something wrong but
without any luck...

The end of the file /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-errors looks like this

AUDIT: Tue Jul 31 10:28:47 2001: 2324 X: client 3 rejected from local host
  Auth name: XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 ID: -1
Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
xmodmap:  unable to open display ':0'
(--) SVGA: Read OPTION 0x40079121
xdm error (pid 2371): fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe)

Thanks.

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xdm login problems

2001-07-30 Thread Pedro Quaresma de Almeida
Hi

my xdm setup is broken... :(

When I try to run xdm, it starts nicely showing the login-screen but
when I try to login it fails returning to the xdm login-screen.

Whats the problem?

Can you help me? Thank you.

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xdm login problems

2000-08-17 Thread Nathan Smith
Hello all:

A strange problem with xdm.  The setup is this:  a NIS server we'll cleverly
call server, and a NIS client we'll cleverly call client.  xdm works
with no problems on server.  Console logins on client work fine.
However if I start xdm and then try to log in on client the following
happen:

when attempting to log in as a regular user the screen accepts the
correct password, goes blank and clicks for a second, then goes back to
the xdm login prompt.  Deliberately (or indeliberately) entering an
incorrect password results in the usual incorrect login message.  When
attempting to log in as root on client using the client root password,
xdm gives the incorrect login message.  When attempting to log in as
root on client using server's root password the screen goes blank and
clicks for a second, then goes back to the xdm login prompt.

Logging in on the console then typing startx starts X on the client
fine, so I don't think it's a problem analogous to trying to log in with
no shell.  The following lines are from the xdm.log file:

AUDIT: Thu Aug 17 03:40:27 2000: 621 X: client 2 rejected from local
host
  Auth name: XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 ID: -1
Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
/usr/X11R6/bin/xrdb: Can't open display ':0'
AUDIT: Thu Aug 17 03:40:27 2000: 621 X: client 3 rejected from local
host
  Auth name: XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 ID: -1
Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
xmodmap:  unable to open display ':0'
AUDIT: Thu Aug 17 03:40:30 2000: 621 X: client 2 rejected from local
host
  Auth name: XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 ID: -1
AUDIT: Thu Aug 17 03:40:30 2000: 621 X: client 2 rejected from local
host
  Auth name: XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 ID: -1
AUDIT: Thu Aug 17 03:40:30 2000: 621 X: client 2 rejected from local
host
  Auth name: XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 ID: -1
AUDIT: Thu Aug 17 03:40:30 2000: 621 X: client 2 rejected from local
host
  Auth name: XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 ID: -1
AUDIT: Thu Aug 17 03:40:30 2000: 621 X: client 2 rejected from local
host
  Auth name: XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 ID: -1
AUDIT: Thu Aug 17 03:40:31 2000: 621 X: client 2 rejected from local
host
  Auth name: XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 ID: -1
AUDIT: Thu Aug 17 03:40:31 2000: 621 X: client 2 rejected from local
host
  Auth name: XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 ID: -1
AUDIT: Thu Aug 17 03:40:32 2000: 621 X: client 2 rejected from local
host
  Auth name: XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 ID: -1
Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
/usr/X11R6/bin/xrdb: Can't open display ':0'
AUDIT: Thu Aug 17 03:40:32 2000: 621 X: client 3 rejected from local
host
  Auth name: XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 ID: -1
Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
xmodmap:  unable to open display ':0'

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Nate



xdm login

1998-12-08 Thread Mark Cantrell

please help, xdm has [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the username field, and it
won't let me overwrite the username field with anything elsehow do i
fix this?

thanks
Mark


groovy xdm login screen [was: Re: screenshot]

1998-11-24 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
E.L. Meijer \(Eric\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I made this groovy looking xdm login screen and now I want to make a

What about making it available to the public? I have always looked
after a nice login screen (I have to admit that I am missing fantasy
to make one myself), but the ones I saw at some web site didn't
get me too exited.

I think there should be a nicer xdm login screen as standard in Debian
(doesn't need to have much graphics or so, just not these ugly looking
naked defaults).

Greetings,
joachim


Re: groovy xdm login screen [was: Re: screenshot]

1998-11-24 Thread Peter S Galbraith

Joachim Trinkwitz wrote:

 I think there should be a nicer xdm login screen as standard in Debian
 (doesn't need to have much graphics or so, just not these ugly looking
 naked defaults).

An easy one to make uses the redand white Debian icon as tiled background.


Green monitor power_saver not working on XDM login screen!

1998-07-27 Thread H Huang
Hi, all.

I'm running XFree86 3.3. Here are the relevant entries in my
XF86Config:

[Section Device]
option  power_saver

[Section Screen]
BlankTime   5
StandbyTime 10
SuspendTime 15
OffTime 20

When I login to an user account, everything works as expected: the
screen blanks out on the 5th min and the power automatically turns off
on the 20th min.

However, if I leave it on the xdm login screen, things do not work out
entirely. The screen still blanks out on the 5th min as expected. But
the power never turns off.

Any idea what's wrong?

Thanks.

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Hanging after xdm login

1997-11-18 Thread Ben Pfaff
After my X server has been running for a while and I've logged in and
out a few times through xdm, the next time I log in, it stops after
clearing away the xdm login screen and the xterm never comes up; I
can't get to the fvwm2 menu either.  Instead I have to switch to
another virtual console and kill the X server, then let xdm restart
it.  FWIW, I'm also using XBanner, in its default configuration.

I don't want to kill the X server with Ctrl+Alt+Backspace after every
login because sometimes it crashes the computer hard (I have the
Millenium II, which driver is experimental).

Does anyone have any suggestions why X hangs?
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can't get remote xdm login screen...help!

1997-10-31 Thread Waller Martin MEJ

Hi,

 After getting my Linux pc on the network here at work using DHCP 
(thanks for the help), I've tried getting in via xdm using xwin32, but 
without success.

 Here's the score - if I use xwin32 and try to query the linux machine 
directly, after a very long pause (say a minute?) I get a message saying 
something along the lines of 'Display some obscure network name which isn't 
the network name of the linux machine could not be opened'.

 If i bring up a choser using the 'broadcast' option, I get our SG 
machines on the list with 'willing to manage'.  Selecting one of those 
brings up the xdm login screen.  Fine.  But my linux machine, although on 
the list, has the message 'available' (not 'willing to manage' as with the 
SG machines).  Selecting it just gives the same problem as mentioned above.

 I don't know the difference between 'willing to manage' and 'available' 
but guess that if i could get my linux machine on the list as 'willing to 
manage', then i could login via xdm.

 Can anybody help me?  This is Linux advocacy stuff...

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Re: can't get remote xdm login screen...help!

1997-10-31 Thread Joost Kooij
On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Waller Martin MEJ wrote:

  Here's the score - if I use xwin32 and try to query the linux machine 
 directly, after a very long pause (say a minute?) I get a message saying 
 something along the lines of 'Display some obscure network name which isn't 
 the network name of the linux machine could not be opened'.
 
  If i bring up a choser using the 'broadcast' option, I get our SG 
 machines on the list with 'willing to manage'.  Selecting one of those 
 brings up the xdm login screen.  Fine.  But my linux machine, although on 
 the list, has the message 'available' (not 'willing to manage' as with the 
 SG machines).  Selecting it just gives the same problem as mentioned above.
 
  I don't know the difference between 'willing to manage' and 'available' 
 but guess that if i could get my linux machine on the list as 'willing to 
 manage', then i could login via xdm.

Can you get xdm to work on your local console?

Did you check /etc/X11/config /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config ? Sorry, can't help
you any better than that.

I used to have machine on a network with a lot of hp and sun servers and
people using exceed in broadcast mode. After I installed linux on my
machine, people thought that it broke the other machines - because my
machine would show up immediately on their chooser, whereas the other
machines would need half a minute or more to respond :-)

Cheers,


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remote xdm login screen probs - more info

1997-10-31 Thread Waller Martin MEJ

Hi,

 Using dhcp to get my linux box to sit on the (Win NT/95) network here 
at work.  Fine - i can telnet in OK.

 Tryng to get a remote xsession going using xwin32 from a win 95 
machine.  It'll show up on a choser list if i do a xdmcp -broadcast thing 
with xwin32 (shows up as 'available' whilst there's some sgi's which come up 
as 'willing to manage').

 Anyway, selecting my machine won't bring up the xdm login window (will 
with the sgi's...), i just get some error message from xwin32 whihc exactly 
is:

XDMCP: Session failed: session 369920001 failed for display 
UKJHAG217600.ukjh.zeneca.com:0:cannot open display

(UKJJHAG217600.ukjh.zeneca.com is the name of the machine from which I'm 
trying to connect).

Meanwhile, on the linux box my /var/log/xdm-errors file is as follows:



XF86Config file stuff
.
xdm error (pid 244): Cannot convert Internet address 156.71.78.38 to host 
name
xdm error (pid 244): Cannot convert Internet address 156.71.78.38 to host 
name
.
.
(lots of times)
.
.
_X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't get address for 
UKJHAG217600.ukjh.zeneca.com
_X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't get address for 
UKJHAG217600.ukjh.zeneca.com
_X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't get address for 
UKJHAG217600.ukjh.zeneca.com
_X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't get address for 
UKJHAG217600.ukjh.zeneca.com
_X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't get address for 
UKJHAG217600.ukjh.zeneca.com
xdm error (pid 601): server open failed for UKJHAG217600.ukjh.zeneca.com:0, 
giving up
xdm error (pid 244): Display UKJHAG217600.ukjh.zeneca.com:0 cannot be opened
xdm error (pid 244): Display UKJHAG217600.ukjh.zeneca.com:0 is being 
disabled

where 156.71.78.38 is the numeric address of UKJHAG217600.ukjh.zeneca.com.

The nameserver's set OK (from dhcp), so it's not that.

Any body got a clue?

Ta,

 Martin


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can't get remote xdm login screen...help!

1997-10-30 Thread Waller Martin MEJ

Hi,

 After getting my Linux pc on the network here at work using DHCP 
(thanks for the help), I've tried getting in via xdm using xwin32, but 
without success.

 Here's the score - if I use xwin32 and try to query the linux machine 
directly, after a very long pause (say a minute?) I get a message saying 
something along the lines of 'Display some obscure network name which isn't 
the network name of the linux machine could not be opened'.

 If i bring up a choser using the 'broadcast' option, I get our SG 
machines on the list with 'willing to manage'.  Selecting one of those 
brings up the xdm login screen.  Fine.  But my linux machine, although on 
the list, has the message 'available' (not 'willing to manage' as with the 
SG machines).  Selecting it just gives the same problem as mentioned above.

 I don't know the difference between 'willing to manage' and 'available' 
but guess that if i could get my linux machine on the list as 'willing to 
manage', then i could login via xdm.

 Can anybody help me?  This is Linux advocacy stuff...

 Martin


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xdm login

1997-07-14 Thread Victor Torrico
Hello,

When logging into X using xdm, after I enter my login name and password, I get a
big white box in the upper left hand corner of the screen with a message that
boot is still in progress.  I depress the OK button in this box , it goes away
and all works fine in X.  This is kind of a pain to do on each login.  The box
is there whether xbanner is installed or uninstalled.  It never used to be there
but now it is and I've tried various purging and reinstalling of the main x
packages with no luck.

What must one do to get rid of this box?

Thanks,

Victor




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xdm 'login incorrect'

1997-06-21 Thread Tim O'Brien
I know this has to be something simple... 

I finally got Debian 1.3 installed, and have X up and running with XDM.
Everything comes up good, the at the login prompt, I enter my login name
and password which I _know_ are good. XDM tells me it's an invalid login. 

Any idea what I've done (or not done) ??

Thanks, 
Tim 


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Re: xdm 'login incorrect'

1997-06-21 Thread Dom
On Sat, Jun 21, 1997 at 03:52:57AM -0500, Tim O'Brien wrote:
 
 I know this has to be something simple... 
 
 I finally got Debian 1.3 installed, and have X up and running with XDM.
 Everything comes up good, the at the login prompt, I enter my login name
 and password which I _know_ are good. XDM tells me it's an invalid login. 
 
 Any idea what I've done (or not done) ??

This is from memory, so someone correct me if I'm wrong.

You have shadow passwords on, and aren't using xdm-shadow. The solution
is to go to VT1 (ctl-alt-f1), and type

shadowconfig off
shadowconfig on

And restart xdm.

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tk script to reboot etc from xdm login screen

1997-03-07 Thread Kevin Scott
I've had several requests for this, so a post to the list seemed
appropriate.  My scripts are based on those posted to this list by
Philippe Troin [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday 7th October 1996
(subject:  Re: Ctrl-Alt-Del doesn't work under X?).  I've modified
them considerably for use at our site, where one of the requirements
for our linux machines is to be able to emulate an X terminal on an
HP-UX server machine.

It (almost) goes without saying that you need tcl and tk packages
installed - only the runtime parts are needed, and I am not aware
of a need for any particular version.

Assuming you have xdm running, you need to do the following:

Modify /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 - this script is run when xdm is
(re)initialising the login screen.  Mine is now:

===
#!/bin/sh
# $XConsortium: Xsetup_0,v 1.3 93/09/28 14:30:31 gildea Exp $

if grep -q ^run-xconsole /etc/X11/config
then
  xconsole -geometry 480x130-0-0 -daemon -notify -verbose -fn fixed \
-exitOnFail -file /dev/xconsole
fi
xsetroot -solid grey50

# Start the rebooter etc...
/usr/local/bin/tkmgr 
echo $!  /var/run/tkmgr-pid
===

Modify /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup_0 - this script is run after a user has
successfully logged in at the xdm login prompt.  Mine is now:
===
#! /bin/sh
#
# This script is run as root after a user starts a session on :0.

# Call the global Xstartup script, if it exists
if [ -x /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup ] ; then
  /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup
fi

# :0 specific startup commands go here

# Kill the mgr
if [ -f /var/run/tkmgr-pid ]
then
  kill `cat /var/run/tkmgr-pid`
  rm /var/run/tkmgr-pid
fi

exit 0
===

The Tk script is /usr/local/bin/tkmgr.  Mine is modified to give three
choices.  The first is to connect to one of our server machines acting
as an xterm, the second to reboot the system and the third to halt it.

The script determines the location of the xdm login window and places
itself centrally below it.  It will obviously need customising, to either
remove the xterm reference or make it applicable to a particular site.

/usr/local/bin/tkmgr contains:
===
#!/usr/bin/wish

# Init stuff
wm title . Chooser
wm protocol . WM_DELETE_WINDOW Quit

# Place this below bottom LH corner of login window
set info [split [exec xwininfo -name xlogin] \n]
set LoginGeom [split [lindex [split [lindex $info 21]  ] 3] +]
set LoginH [lindex [split [lindex $LoginGeom 0] x] 1]
set NewX [expr [lindex $LoginGeom 1] + 1]
set NewY [expr [lindex $LoginGeom 2] + $LoginH + 6]
wm geometry . +$NewX+$NewY

# The buttons
frame .buttons
button .buttons.xterm \
-text Start xterm on ... \
-width 19 \
-relief raised \
-command Xterm
button .buttons.reboot \
-text Reboot the system \
-width 19 \
-command Reboot
button .buttons.halt \
-text Halt the system \
-width 19 \
-command Halt
pack append .buttons \
.buttons.xterm  {left expand fill} \
.buttons.halt   {left expand fill} \
.buttons.reboot {left expand fill}

menu .buttons.xterm.menu
.buttons.xterm.menu add command -label sleepy  -command {Xterm sleepy}
.buttons.xterm.menu add command -label sneezy  -command {Xterm sneezy}
.buttons.xterm.menu add command -label bashful -command {Xterm bashful}
.buttons.xterm.menu add command -label dopey   -command {Xterm dopey}
.buttons.xterm.menu add command -label grumpy  -command {Xterm grumpy}
.buttons.xterm.menu add command -label happy   -command {Xterm happy}

pack .buttons -side top -fill x -expand true

# The Functions
proc Quit {} {
exit 0
}

proc Reboot {} {
exec /sbin/shutdown -rt 15 now  /dev/tty1  /dev/tty1 2 /dev/tty1 
}

proc Halt {} {
exec /sbin/shutdown -ht 15 now  /dev/tty1  /dev/tty1 2 /dev/tty1 
}

proc Xterm {} {
catch destroy .xtlist
toplevel .xtlist

# Place this below chooser window
set MainGeom [split [ wm geometry . ] +]
set MainH [lindex [split [lindex $MainGeom 0] x] 1]
set NewX [lindex $MainGeom 1]
set NewY [expr [lindex $MainGeom 2] + $MainH]
wm geometry .xtlist +$NewX+$NewY

frame .xtlist.list
button .xtlist.list.sleepy \
-text sleepy \
-padx 10 \
-width 7 \
-command {exec /usr/local/bin/tkxterm sleepy }
button .xtlist.list.sneezy \
-text sneezy \
-padx 11 \
-width 7 \
-command {exec /usr/local/bin/tkxterm sneezy }
button .xtlist.list.bashful \
-text bashful \
-padx 11 \
-width 7 \
-command {exec /usr/local/bin/tkxterm bashful }
button .xtlist.list.dopey \
-text dopey

Re: The *'($^'( list... and Xdm login

1996-09-30 Thread Rob Browning
Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 How many utilities would have to be changed to implement the
 following password logic:

   If the stored hash is 13 characters long, use crypt().  
   If it is 32 characters long, use md5sum().  
   Otherwise, fail.

 This would allow us to retain backwards compatability while potentially 
 increasing the security of the system by allowing arbitrarily long 
 passwords.

I would love to see this happen.  Wouldn't it be fairly easy if we
successfully migrate to libpam?

--
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Re: The *'($^'( list... and Xdm login

1996-09-28 Thread Buddha Buck
 a simple question about xdm : 
 
   my root password is ... say toto. when i try to login
   with password totoxxx, it works. The xdm login
   only compares characters from the begining, to the end of
   the password. is it normal ??? 

It shouldn't be that way for your root password as toto, but let's 
say your root password was wizardoz.  Then wizardos_is_a_fraud 
would work, because anything past 8 letters is ignored.

In fact, the scenario that you describe -couldn't- happen, unless login 
on xdm was severely broken (try using dorothy as a password instead 
of toto,  if you can get in, then you know it's broken :-( ).  What 
login (and xdm, etc) do is take the passwork you type, hash the first 8 
characters with a one-way hash function, and compare that with the 
stored, previously hashed password.  The original password is lost -- 
it exists in the memory of passwd, login, xdm, and so on the bare 
minimum they need to do their job, then it is destroyed, to prevent 
snoopers.  Since all xdm has to play with is a previously hashed value, 
it -can't- tell that the password toto is only 4 characters long.  It 
can only tell that totoxxx hashes to the same value as toto.  Given 
the way that the hash function is designed, I think (but I am not 
certain) that that is mathematically impossible (but at the least, it 
it highly improbable).

I just tried it on my system, and I was able to su to root by using the 
password scarecro instead of the complete scarecrow (and, no, that 
isn't the root password on my system, but mine is longer than 8 
characters), so the 8 character limit is still live on Debian systems.

Theoretically, we should be able to pay no attention to the crypt() 
behind the login, but maintaining compatability with other systems 
forces us to use the same crypt() Unix has been using for decades.  
This limits us to only 8 significant characters.  How many utilities 
would have to be changed to implement the following password logic:

  If the stored hash is 13 characters long, use crypt().  
  If it is 32 characters long, use md5sum().  
  Otherwise, fail.

This would allow us to retain backwards compatability while potentially 
increasing the security of the system by allowing arbitrarily long 
passwords.

 
 thanks,
 
 Richard
 

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Re: The *'($^'( list... and Xdm login

1996-09-27 Thread Richard Gayraud


 From:  Randall Shutt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Yeah, Ive unsubscribed from this list about 2 weeks ago, everything was
 fine, and now Im recieveing mail again.  I tried to mail
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 gave me instructions on how to unsubscribe (which were, incidently the same
 procedure that I was using).  So, I REALLY hate posting to the list about 
 this,
 but since listname-request is fuckin broken, I have no choice.  Thanks
 
I think many people are in the same situation. they unsubscribed 
several weeks ago, and they receive mails agin since the begining
of the week. 

perhaps a good answer to this question is not only to unsubscribe
concerned people, but to explain evrybody how to unsubscribe
definitively...

a simple question about xdm : 

  my root password is ... say toto. when i try to login
  with password totoxxx, it works. The xdm login
  only compares characters from the begining, to the end of
  the password. is it normal ??? 

thanks,

Richard