Bug#78855: intermezzo ITP

2002-05-28 Thread Ganesan R
On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 10:30:47PM +0200, Bas Zoetekouw wrote:
> Hi Ganesan!
> 
> Are you still working on the intermezzo userland tools? So you think you
> can finish it in the near future? If not, I'd like to take over your
> ITP.

Hi Bas,

I haven't had much time to work on it lately, so please go ahead. I'll write
down the problems that I faced; hopefully that should give you a head start.
You may already know this - the Perl based intermezzo sync daemon (lento) is
not being worked on any more, so it probably makes more sense to package
intersync. I mainly worked on the perl intermezzo releases.

I had attempted to package intersync recently and ran into a few problems.
First, there is no way to disable the building of kernel module, so you need
the kernel-source package for building. You will need libghttp-dev,
libuuid-dev, e2fslibs-dev and libglib2.0-dev for building. Debian's
libghttp-dev package puts headers directly into /usr/include, the code
includes headers as , this needs to be patched. 

I'll send you a mail if I think of anything else.

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Bug#148413: ITP: iconv -- GNU Unicode conversion library

2002-05-28 Thread Junichi Uekawa
"Adam Conrad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit:

> > In what ways is this iconv different from the iconv provided in the
> > libc6 package?
> > 
> 
> It's probably nearly identical.  And that would be the point, since
> NetBSD isn't using glibc (and Joel is packaging it for the benefit of
> the NetBSD port)

Isn't it possible to build iconv from glibc sources ?


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Bug#148421: ITP: kopete -- Multi-protocol KDE Instant Messenger client

2002-05-28 Thread Till Gerken
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2002-05-29
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: kopete
  Version : 0.4
  Upstream Author : Duncan Mac-Vicar P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Nick Betcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.kdedevelopers.net/kopete/
* License : GPL
  Description : Multi-protocol KDE Instant Messenger client

 Kopete is a multi-protocol Instant Messenger client for KDE. Currently,
 it supports AIM, ICQ, MSN, IRC and Jabber. This is the preferred IM client
 for KDE, replacing KMSN/KMerlin and Kit. (according to the developers)



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Bug#148413: ITP: iconv -- GNU Unicode conversion library

2002-05-28 Thread Adam Conrad
> -Original Message-
> From: Joe Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 5:24 PM
> 
> In what ways is this iconv different from the iconv provided in the
> libc6 package?
> 

It's probably nearly identical.  And that would be the point, since
NetBSD isn't using glibc (and Joel is packaging it for the benefit of
the NetBSD port)

... Adam



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Bug#148413: ITP: iconv -- GNU Unicode conversion library

2002-05-28 Thread Joel Baker
On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 07:23:55PM -0400, Joe Drew wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 18:06, Joel Baker wrote:
> > * Package name: iconv
> > It also
> > provides a command-line interface via the 'iconv' program.
> 
> In what ways is this iconv different from the iconv provided in the
> libc6 package?

I expect there is very little, if any, difference; they're both GNU code,
and I would be amazed if it were not simply duplicated. However, since none
of the *BSD ports have GNU libc, and not all of them implement iconv() in
a native fashion, it is necessary to have the package available.

It can be limited to only those architectures which lack an implementation
of iconv(), if it would cause problems; this is part of why I CC'ed the ITP
to debian-devel.
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Bug#147655: GkACPI status

2002-05-28 Thread Erich Schubert
> I saw your ITP on GkACPI just when I had thought about packing it =]
> Just to make sure: are you really gonna do it?
> I don't mean to press you or anything like that, don't get me wrong,
> it's just that I'd like to see it in debian =]
> 
> Anyway, thanks for the attention and good luck packing this microscopic
> (but nice) application =]

I have packages ready that work-for-me, but i am sure they will not work
for lot's of users, because of the very limited code...
That's why i decided not to upload them, until this is fixed...

The version from gkacpi.sf.net was definitely better, but...

(for example: hard-coded Power Device name, that did not match my ac
supply acpi name; i had to change it; it then worked fine; hard-coded
battery names; i had to change the sequence, making BAT1 the first (BAT1
is the battery-only slot on my notebook) to have it detect acpi at
all...
furthermore gkrellm (or acpi itself maybe in my devel kernel, due to the
heavy use...) tends to lock up after some time now.

It might be the best X acpi battery monitor i know, but it's far from
suiteable for release, imho.

If you disagree with me on the releaseability, feel free to just upload
gkrellm and close this ITP.

Gruss,
Erich Schubert

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Bug#148413: ITP: iconv -- GNU Unicode conversion library

2002-05-28 Thread Joe Drew
On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 18:06, Joel Baker wrote:
> * Package name: iconv
> It also
> provides a command-line interface via the 'iconv' program.

In what ways is this iconv different from the iconv provided in the
libc6 package?

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Bug#148413: ITP: iconv -- GNU Unicode conversion library

2002-05-28 Thread Joel Baker
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2002-05-28
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: iconv
  Version : 1.7
  Upstream author : GNU Project
* URL : http://www.gnu.org/software/libiconv/
* License : LGPL
  Description : A Unicode conversion library

This is an open source Unicode conversion library provided by the GNU
Project. It is required to provide this functionality on the NetBSD
platform, and is a pre-requisite to successfully building GCC 3.1. It also
provides a command-line interface via the 'iconv' program.

I am currently in the NM queue, pending DAM approval and account creation,
and have a sponsor for the package.
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Bug#148246: gnome-system-monitor and procman

2002-05-28 Thread Noel Koethe
Hello,

just a question.
The Gnome2 summary lists this:
(http://lists.debian.org/debian-gtk-gnome/2002/debian-gtk-gnome-200205/msg00077.html)

|o|gnome-system-monitor|1.1.7|0.99.0 |was procman

and there is procman 1.x in sid.

So isn't there an package already which have just to be renamed?

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Bug#148395: ITP: hearse -- exchange Nethack bones files with other users

2002-05-28 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 04:03:17PM -0400, Roderick Schertler wrote:

> That's to make it more convenient to customize.  It handles running
> multiple times per day well (there's a comment about that at the top
> of the cron.d/hearse file; I run mine with is "*/15 * * * * root hearse
> --cron"), but I thought the once per day made a better default.

It means that in the default configuration it is unlikely to run on
systems that are switched off overnight.  There's nothing to stop you
shipping a cron.daily and a sample to put in cron.d if people want it
(or shipping both - it's not like it's going to be a problem to have
both).

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Bug#148395: ITP: hearse -- exchange Nethack bones files with other users

2002-05-28 Thread Roderick Schertler
On Tue, 28 May 2002 21:39:34 +0100, Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> [Using cron.d rather than cron.daily] means that in the default
> configuration it is unlikely to run on systems that are switched off
> overnight.

Thanks, I hadn't considered that.  I'll change it to ship with both
files, but the cron.d one will be just comments.

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Bug#78855: intermezzo ITP

2002-05-28 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Ganesan!

Are you still working on the intermezzo userland tools? So you think you
can finish it in the near future? If not, I'd like to take over your
ITP.

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Bug#148406: RFP: wmifinfo -- wmifinfo is a WindowMaker dock-applet showing basic network info for all available interfaces. It shows IP address, netmask, gateway and MAC address

2002-05-28 Thread Ico Doornekamp
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2002-05-28
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: wmifinfo
  Version : 0.3
  Upstream Author : Ico Doornekamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.zevv.nl/wmifinfo/
* License : GPL
  Description : wmifinfo is a WindowMaker dock-applet showing IP network 
info 

wmifinfo is a simple applet showing basic network info for all available
interfaces. It shows IP address, netmask, gateway and MAC address. A bit
like ifconfig.


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Bug#148395: ITP: hearse -- exchange Nethack bones files with other users

2002-05-28 Thread Roderick Schertler
On Tue, 28 May 2002 20:33:19 +0100, Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> I just downloaded and tried hearse (which is a really neat idea).  One
> thing I noticed is that rather than using cron.daily it appears that
> cron.d has a particular time coded into it but only runs once a day.

That's to make it more convenient to customize.  It handles running
multiple times per day well (there's a comment about that at the top
of the cron.d/hearse file; I run mine with is "*/15 * * * * root hearse
--cron"), but I thought the once per day made a better default.

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Bug#148395: ITP: hearse -- exchange Nethack bones files with other users

2002-05-28 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 02:22:36PM -0400, Roderick Schertler wrote:

> I'm the upstream author for the Unix Hearse client, a program to let
> Nethack users exchange bones files with each other.  The program,
> including the .deb, is in testing now.  It's GPLed.  More info
> is at http://www.argon.org/~roderick/hearse/.  Here's the current
> debian/control.

I just downloaded and tried hearse (which is a really neat idea).  One
thing I noticed is that rather than using cron.daily it appears that
cron.d has a particular time coded into it but only runs once a day.


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Bug#148395: ITP: hearse -- exchange Nethack bones files with other users

2002-05-28 Thread Roderick Schertler
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2002-05-28
Severity: wishlist

I'm the upstream author for the Unix Hearse client, a program to let
Nethack users exchange bones files with each other.  The program,
including the .deb, is in testing now.  It's GPLed.  More info
is at http://www.argon.org/~roderick/hearse/.  Here's the current
debian/control.

Source: hearse
Section: games
Priority: optional
Maintainer: Roderick Schertler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Standards-Version: 3.5.6
Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 3.0.5), perl (>= 5.6.0-16)

Package: hearse
Architecture: all
Depends: debconf, ${perl:Depends}, libdigest-md5-perl | libmd5-perl, libwww-perl
Recommends: nethack-common | nethack
Description: exchange Nethack bones files with other users
 Hearse lets you automatically exchange Nethack bones file with other
 users.  When run it uploads any new bones files it finds on your system,
 then downloads any bones files the server feels like giving it.  See
 http://www.argon.org/~roderick/hearse/ for more information.

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Bug#148380: ITP: coda -- The Coda advanced networked filesystem.

2002-05-28 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2002-05-28
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: coda
  Version : 5.3.19
  Upstream Author : Too many to list here.
* URL : http://www.coda.cs.cmu.edu
* License : GPL
  Description : The Coda advanced networked filesystem.

(Quoted from the site)

Coda is a distributed filesystem with its origin in AFS2. It has many
features that are very desirable for network filesystems. Currently,
Coda has several features not found elsewhere.

1. disconnected operation for mobile computing
2. is freely available under a liberal license
3. high performance through client side persistent caching
4. server replication
5. security model for authentication, encryption and access control
6. continued operation during partial network failures in server network
7. network bandwith adaptation
8. good scalability
9. well defined semantics of sharing, even in the presence of network
   failures

I've been working on the coda packages for a while, after i got in touch with
Jan Harkes (the original packages author); i've already packaged the library
neede by coda:
 o liblwp-dev
 o liblwp2
 o librpc2-dev
 o librpc2-bin
 o librpc23
 o librvm-dev
 o librvm1
 o librvm-bin
I want to recheck them before upload.

I'm having some trouble (to say it all, they are only a lot of minor issues)
with the coda package it self:
 o coda-common
 o coda-client
 o coda-server
 o coda-update
 o coda-backup

I guess it will take some time.
Help in packaging is wellcome.

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Bug#148374: ITP: darkstat -- a network traffic analyzer

2002-05-28 Thread Cedric Delfosse
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2002-05-28
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: darkstat
  Version : 1.3
  Upstream Author : Emil Mikulic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://members.optushome.com.au/darkmoon7/net/darkstat.html
* License : GPL
  Description : a network traffic analyzer

Uploaded soon.

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Bug#147303: ITP: winex -- A DESCRIPTION

2002-05-28 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Marc Leeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 6. Will it be in debian?
> As things are now, no...
> Distributing it would only be temporary (most likely, it would be
> cut off before it even reaches unstable).

Since Transgaming is essentially lying about the license, would it not
be at least valuable to expose them more publicly by starting such a
distribution to force their hand?



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Bug#147303: ITP: winex -- A DESCRIPTION

2002-05-28 Thread Marc Leeman
The following text summarises (for me) the TransGaming experience (most
probably to their relief). I am going to remove all related packages
and look for some orphaned package to satisfy me "tweaking" need :)
Thanks to those on debian-devel (and RMS) for making suggestions to the
text.

=

WineX is a branch of the Wine, open source windows emulator software. 
allows running certain windows programs on a GNU/Linux operating 
system, and thus reducing, evading the Microsoft imposed Operating 
System lock-in.

Up until a couple of months ago, Wine (http://www.winehq.com) was
released under the X11 license. Contrary to the more widely spread 
better known GPL, this license allows branching the code, making 
modifications without having to release the modified source and put
restrictions on the distribution of it.

Some months ago, the license of Wine was changed from the X11 license
to the LGPL to avoid these problems, especially since wine is a 
project where a lot of people are working on and are contributing to:
volunteers and people employed by companies like CodeWeavers.

In the wake of this change, which is rumoured to be initiated by 
CodeWeavers, a branch is _again_ made to wine (ReWind) which it's
only intention is to keep the X11 license over the LGPL. Since the
LGPL is the main, contributors to the Wine project have to explicitly
agree that their patches can be included in the ReWind project (and
hence also in TransGaming's WineX).

At this point, I guess, a clear distinction between WineX and ReWind 
has to be made. ReWind is, to a large degree, tailored to be used by
WineX but to this moment, the changes made by TransGaming (also those
based on in spirit LGPL code, but allowed X11) are not brought back
to the Wine tree.
With the creation of ReWind, one can wonder if it ever will, ...

The sources on which WineX is based are put available on sourceforge
by TransGaming under the Alladin license. I guess you need to be 
some barrister to understand all these changes, or start learning.
This license allows using, changing the code, releasing binaries, 
as long as the sources are released again. One of the most important
differences with the GPL variants is that there seems to be no re-
striction on the restricting the license afterwards (which is not 
the case with the GPL).

Recently, a RFP (Request For Package) was put up on the Debian site,
and a "developer" agreed on maintaining this package. The license as
it is, allows to include it in the non-free archive.

Within hours after posting the ITP (Intent to Package) on the Debian
bug database and on the debian-devel mailing list, a mail from Trans-
Gaming's CEO/CTE Gavriel State was received, which indicates
1. "We noticed that you intend to package our AFPLed WineX package 
for release in debian (presumably non-free).  We would really prefer 
that this not happen, for a number of reasons."
2. " We would prefer not to have to change our license to explicitly 
prevent the distribution of binary packages, but if we have to we 
will do so."

There are two things in this mail:
There are claims on the rights on the code, which are valid to some 
degree. The reasons they state are commercial (development => money 
=> development) and possible confusion since the release of debian 
binaries based on their public AFP'ed CVS does not provide the full
functionality of the binaries they redistribute (amongst others, they
are not allowed to redistribute proprietary copy protection code 
used by games).
If you do distribute binaries, we will change the license to 
explicitly prohibit you from doing this.

The reaction of TransGaming concerning the binary debian release of 
WineX raises a couple of questions, that should be addressed before 
pursueing the packaging any further.

1. Does the license allow packaging?
Yes, I read through it and you can distribute binaries as long as 
you put the source available in some common format

2. Is the source free?
Well, to some degree, not the 3 RMS criteria, that's for sure

3. Who is the target audience?
I would think people interested in 3D and 3D games and development. 
I think it is pretty obvious that you are not going to satisfy a 
hard-core gamer, since there is no support for copyright protection 
and most of the tweaking is manual (downloading dll's for example).
I see such a package for enthusiasts that want to check the 
state-of-the-art in gaming without having to install windows (I 
recently checked the SoF2 demo with this, even though the game was 
only for about 30' in my HD).
I imagine it is also useful for people working with 3D graphics and 
programming on it (e.g. students develop in win32 and you do not 
want to let them show the demo on your GNU/Linux workstation)..
In both cases, it is handy, but most likely not enough to go for 
the commercial thing (one could do without it).

4. Should it be packaged?
Carefully reading the mail from Gavriel State, I did not see any 
specific objections to packa

Bug#146394: Experimental isdn2h323 package for download

2002-05-28 Thread Torsten Knodt
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Hello,
I've uploaded experimental source and binary debian packages for isdnh323 to
http://www.students.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/~knodt . It's no apt-source,
only packages.
Here the actual status:
- - I have a sponsor, namely Jörg Jaspert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
- - The package works for me.
- - i386 build works at least on debian unstable.
- - sparc build doesn't work. The problem seems to be, that cpp under sparc
doesn't include /usr/include/g++-include.
- - Upstream, namely Marco Budde at telos EDV Systementwicklung GmbH, is
contacted and looks at my changes. Marco said, that he needs some weeks.

Before you do something other than installing the binaries, please read the
debian specific readme file in the package.

With kind regards
Torsten Knodt
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Bug#148319: unreal-ircd: GPL program with a non-distributable clause in EULA

2002-05-28 Thread Mika Fischer
* Matt Hope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-05-28 08:07]:
> Thats what I meant by AUP (its actually a EULA, my apologies).
[...]
> As Adam suggests, this is probably best discussed with upstream
> first. Good luck =)

Allright, I'll try just that then...

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Bug#148345: ITP: libfile-lock-perl -- File locking with Perl using flock, lockf and fcntl

2002-05-28 Thread Nick Phillips
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2002-05-28
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: libfile-lock-perl
  Version : 0.9
  Upstream Author : Jarkko Hietaniemi and Kenneth Albanowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : 
http://www.perl.com/CPAN/modules/by-module/File/File-Lock-0.9.tar.gz
* License : "As Perl"
  Description : File locking with Perl using flock, lockf and fcntl

   File::Lock provides functions to perform locking using flock, lockf
   and fcntl. This last is both necessary in order to safely lock 
   mailboxes, Exim mail spools etc. and difficult to do in a portable
   way with Perl. This module should make it easy.

   At present, an OO wrapper is provided only for fcntl locking.


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Bug#148319: unreal-ircd: GPL program with a non-distributable clause in EULA

2002-05-28 Thread Matt Hope
On Mon, 27 May 2002, Adam Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote...

: > From: Matt Hope [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: > Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 9:35 PM
: > 
: > On Mon, 27 May 2002, Mika Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote...
: > 
: > : * Package name: unreal-ircd
: > 
: > Last I checked, you needed to accept a AUP before being able to
: > download unreal-ircd. I didn't come to a conculsion if the AUP was
: > acceptable under DFSG.
: 
: From their download page:
: 
: "IF THIS SOFTWARE WAS DOWNLOADED FROM A LOCATION OTHER THAN THIS WEBSITE
: AND THROUGH THE STANDARD DOWNLOAD URL OR WAS DOWNLOADED USING A METHOD
: TO AVOID ACCEPTANCE OF THIS AGREEMENT NO RIGHTS SHALL BE GIVEN TO THE
: USER. 
: 
: By installing, using, distributing, downloading, or otherwise using the
: provided software you agree to be bound by this license agreement. If
: you do not agree to any of the terms stated in this agreement then you
: may not install, copy, distribute, download, or use this software."
: 
: This sounds like it can't be distributed, even in non-free.  The
: problem, of course, is that their source is actually licensed under the
: GPL (at least, that's the only license I can find in the tarball), so
: what we have here is some conflicting licensing.  This should probably
: be straightened out with the upstream folk before packaging.  The GPL
: kinda voids the silly EULA on the download page (by allowing free
: distribution), but the EULA also appears to void the GPL (by claiming
: that if you don't agree to it, you waive all licensing rights).
: 
: ... Adam

Thats what I meant by AUP (its actually a EULA, my apologies).

Back in the dark days, I was interested in packaging this.. I started
work about a week before this EULA appeared, saw the EULA, then gave
up.

As Adam suggests, this is probably best discussed with upstream
first. Good luck =)

Matt


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Bug#148319: ITP: unreal-ircd -- a highly stable and feature-packed IRC server daemon

2002-05-28 Thread Adam Conrad
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Hope [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 9:35 PM
> 
> On Mon, 27 May 2002, Mika Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote...
> 
> : * Package name: unreal-ircd
> 
> Last I checked, you needed to accept a AUP before being able to
> download unreal-ircd. I didn't come to a conculsion if the AUP was
> acceptable under DFSG.

>From their download page:

"IF THIS SOFTWARE WAS DOWNLOADED FROM A LOCATION OTHER THAN THIS WEBSITE
AND THROUGH THE STANDARD DOWNLOAD URL OR WAS DOWNLOADED USING A METHOD
TO AVOID ACCEPTANCE OF THIS AGREEMENT NO RIGHTS SHALL BE GIVEN TO THE
USER. 

By installing, using, distributing, downloading, or otherwise using the
provided software you agree to be bound by this license agreement. If
you do not agree to any of the terms stated in this agreement then you
may not install, copy, distribute, download, or use this software."

This sounds like it can't be distributed, even in non-free.  The
problem, of course, is that their source is actually licensed under the
GPL (at least, that's the only license I can find in the tarball), so
what we have here is some conflicting licensing.  This should probably
be straightened out with the upstream folk before packaging.  The GPL
kinda voids the silly EULA on the download page (by allowing free
distribution), but the EULA also appears to void the GPL (by claiming
that if you don't agree to it, you waive all licensing rights).

... Adam



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