Re: DebianEdu change notifications - Was: [Debian Wiki] Update of "DebianEdu/CipUX/Meeting/20070604" by XavierOswald

[Petter Reinholdtsen]

[David Claughton]
> Just wondering - is there a reason why this list is subscribed to
> receive change notifications from the DebianEdu pages on the Wiki?

[Frans Pop]
> The debian-www list is really the wrong place to ask that question.
> For one, because the wiki is not managed by the debian-www team.
> And also because someone from the DebianEdu community must have
> thought it a good idea to subscribe to these changes, so it is also
> up to the DebianEdu community to change this.

I'm not sure what 'this list' refers to above, but as far as I know
the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list is subscribed to all changes done in
Debian Edu, including source repositories and web page changes.

There are plans to split the commits list in two, one for web pages
and one for source changes, but it is not implemented yet.

The fact that debian-www is listed in the to header of all emails
originating from the Debian wiki obfusacte the real receiver, and I
suspect it is the reason of this request.

Happy hacking,
-- 
Petter Reinholdtsen


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Re: Doubts and Ideas

[Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)]

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On 05/31/2007 07:40 AM, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
> On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 10:58:43PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
>>> And considering a lot of other people have infinite more
>>> understading of Copyright issues, what should we do if we can't
>>> find/contact the contributor and/or he/she decides to not relicense
>>> it? Is it possible to remove the content and rewrite it free?
>> If for some reason we can't find a contributor (or a contributor has
>> fallen off the face of the planet) we should indicate as such and
>> probably just assume that they meant to give us free reign. If they
>> decide not to license it appropriately, then we should rip whatever it
>> is out of the webpage and rewrite it.
> 
> I proposed in the bug report the following (in addition to what Don
> suggested):
> 
> - post to d-a that the license is going to change in X months and that
>   contributors are going to be contacted. Provide pointers to anyone feels he
>   should be contacted and isn't
> 
> - put a News item in the website explaining that the license change will be
>   introduced in X months and do the same as with the e-mail
> 
> After X months have gone through, the contributor's GPG emails have been
> collected, and SPI has been contacted and hold up a meeting clearing the way,
> change licence.wml as appropiate, add a *new* News item and e-mail d-a again.
> 
> That way we are acting on good faith and nobody would have a reason to claim
> that the license change was introduced without they knowing it.

I would like to suggest that we also have the guidelines
(see below) in place before we start collecting the GPG e-mails
and advertising the license change, which means, starting it
from inside for a couple of weeks.


>> We probably should also come up with a set of guidelines for
>> contributors so that we avoid accidentally ending up with work not
>> written by a contributor in the website too. (Or at least, have such
>> work be clearly marked.)
> 
> Absolutely true. The place for that is
> www.debian.org/devel/website/guidelines or something similar. Anyone wants to
> start writting it up?

This is a *very* short draft with some first ideas before
start the wml (and also because until the weekend I don't have
much free time in my hands). I'm not even sure if that is what
Javier and Don had in mind, but I hope it is useful. ;)


 * Contributions must be DFSG compatible

 * You can either assign your copyright to SPI or allow the Debian
   WWW Team to relicense your work under a compatible DFSG license
   to keep the content of the site consistent.

 * You don't need to have write access to WWW repository to contribute

 * Everybody that contributes to the WWW repository must sent a GPG
   signed mail informing about copyright details and license preferences
   of the specific piece of information being contributed, it must abide
   to the above points.

 * You don't need to be a DD to have write access to the WWW repository

 * Everybody with write access to the WWW repository must sent a GPG
   signed mail informing about copyright details and license preferences
   for all further work identified under the VCS account.

 * Everybody with write access to the WWW repository must check with
   patch-providers and other sources of information about the copyright
   and license information before commit it.

 * Translations are considered a derived work and we strongly suggest
   to keep the original license allowing Debian WWW Team to change it
   for a DFSG compatible license to keep the website consistent.


Written/Structured ideas:

Our website is a very important part of the Debian Project,
it is one of the main interfaces with our users, it contains
lots of useful information and references. Considering this,
the content of the website is licensed under a DFSG compatible
license.

There are mainly two ways of contributing to the website, you
can either assign your copyright to SPI Inc. or you can
license your contributions under $LICENSE_WWW, but we also
request that you allow the Web Team to relicense your
contributions under a DFSG compatible license when it is
necessary.

[ Add the information from the Joey page so it can be
  translated and we can document the procedure to request
  the access and to confirm that the necessary steps were
  taken to make sure that the contributions do not violate
  copyright and create license problems ]

If you are a translator, please, be sure to check the rules
inside your translation team before start translating a new
document. Please, respect the "pseudo-header" structure in
order to keep all the information about Copyright and
License traceable.



Ok, I was imagining that we should add a Pseudo-Header
structure to 

Re: Doubts and Ideas

[Don Armstrong]

On Thu, 31 May 2007, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> I am willing to relicense my contributions under the GPL v2; but I
> am not willing to assign my copyright away.

Yeah, this is precisely why I think giving an unrestrictive license to
SPI acting at the direction of Debian should be an option; some people
want to keep their copyrights. [I personally don't care much, so long
as at the end of the day, I can do with my work what I wish.]

> I specifically do not trust the SPI enough to allow them to
> relicense my work in the future.

This sort of relicensing should be done at the direction of Debian; we
could even write up the license assignment so this was required. Plus,
the worst that could happen is the work would become closer to PD; it
wouldn't be capable of going backwards in freedom granted.

Would such a license be acceptable to you?


Don Armstrong

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Re: Doubts and Ideas

[Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)]

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On 05/31/2007 06:12 PM, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2007 17:06:08 -0300, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:  
> 
>>  Would you allow the Debian WWW Team (or a DPL delegate for
>> that matter) to relicense your work under a DFSG compatible license?
>> Or, would you dual-license it GPLv2 and MIT/Expat?  That would make
>> our work easier.
> 
> I personally would not mind a dual licensing, but I would prefer
>  the GPL. One of the set of pages I have been meaning to add to the vote
>  pages is an HOWTO about using the Debian vote softwareto run other
>  votes; and it would help if I could just use the docs from devotee --
>  which is GPL'd; and has incorporated other material also distributed
>  under the GPL.
>
> In general, allowing people to add docs and other material from
>  software should be encouraged, as long as the software is DFSG free.
> 
> I belong to the school of thought that divides computer related
>  material into software/hardware/wetware,  so as ar as I am concerned,
>  the wml source for the web site is software, just like any other struff
>  I package.  Anything DFSG free should be acceptable.
> 
> manoj


Thank you very much Manoj! :-)


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Re: problems with etter

[Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)]

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Hi,


On 05/31/2007 08:06 PM, Heartfelt wrote:
> HI.  Im a newbie whos just fed up with being attacked with worms and
> other shit.  n e ways.  I recently tried to download the ettercap
> 0.7.3.orig.tar.gz and when i went to unzip it it said that i had to
> create its own archive.  Am i doin somethin wrong here.  hit me back. my
> email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] thank

Please, try to contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

debian-www is the list where we take care of the Debian
Web Site. :-)



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Re: DebianEdu change notifications - Was: [Debian Wiki] Update of "DebianEdu/CipUX/Meeting/20070604" by XavierOswald

[Frans Pop]

On Wednesday 30 May 2007 02:16, David Claughton wrote:
> Just wondering - is there a reason why this list is subscribed to
> receive change notifications from the DebianEdu pages on the Wiki?

The debian-www list is really the wrong place to ask that question.
For one, because the wiki is not managed by the debian-www team.
And also because someone from the DebianEdu community must have thought it 
a good idea to subscribe to these changes, so it is also up to the 
DebianEdu community to change this.

Cheers,
FJP


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DebianEdu change notifications - Was: [Debian Wiki] Update of "DebianEdu/CipUX/Meeting/20070604" by XavierOswald

[David Claughton]

Debian Wiki wrote:

Dear Wiki user,

You have subscribed to a wiki page or wiki category on "Debian Wiki" for change 
notification.

The following page has been changed by XavierOswald:
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/CipUX/Meeting/20070604



Hi,

Just wondering - is there a reason why this list is subscribed to 
receive change notifications from the DebianEdu pages on the Wiki?


It's just that there seems to be rather a lot of them, and I would have 
thought that anybody who is interested can subscribe with their own 
email addresses?


Dave.


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Re: Doubts and Ideas

[Manoj Srivastava]

On Thu, 31 May 2007 17:06:08 -0300, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:  

>   Would you allow the Debian WWW Team (or a DPL delegate for
> that matter) to relicense your work under a DFSG compatible license?
> Or, would you dual-license it GPLv2 and MIT/Expat?  That would make
> our work easier.

I personally would not mind a dual licensing, but I would prefer
 the GPL. One of the set of pages I have been meaning to add to the vote
 pages is an HOWTO about using the Debian vote softwareto run other
 votes; and it would help if I could just use the docs from devotee --
 which is GPL'd; and has incorporated other material also distributed
 under the GPL.

In general, allowing people to add docs and other material from
 software should be encouraged, as long as the software is DFSG free.

I belong to the school of thought that divides computer related
 material into software/hardware/wetware,  so as ar as I am concerned,
 the wml source for the web site is software, just like any other struff
 I package.  Anything DFSG free should be acceptable.

manoj
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RE

[Massandie Diaby]

Bonjour très cher  Mr,
 
Comment allez vous ? Bien je le pense !
 
Je m'excuse de cette intrusion mais je viens par ce mail vous confier un sujet 
qui m'est cher et confidentiel.
 
Tout d'abord j'ai eu après de longues prières le temps de réfléchir avant de 
vous confier cette affaire.J'ai une proposition à vous faire; de cet fait je 
tiens à vous expliquer la nature de mon problème.
 
Je ne tiens pas franchement à Obtenir une aide sur condition ni à vous obliger 
à m'aider pour une certaine ou quelconque raison. Je tiens à vous dire que rien 
ne vous oblige à honorer cette affaire, mais si Dieu réalise notre voeux et que 
vous nous aidiez à régler notre problème vous nous aurez sauvés.
 
Je me Nomme Mlle Massandie Diaby Je suis la fille de Mr Et Mme Diaby tous deux 
Sierra léonais mais qui ne sont aujourd'hui malheureusement plus de ce monde. 
Je suis orpheline et je suis en compagnie de mon jeune frère âgé de 12ans .
 
Mon père était un honorable Marchant de Diamant Brut récolté sur des mines 
extractions de Notre pays la Sierra Léone et actionnait aussi dans le commerce 
du café et du Cacao sur la zone de L'Afrique de l'ouest .
 
Ma mère est décédée lorsque j'avais seulement 11 ans à la naissance de mon 
jeune frère depuis nous avons grandi spécialement avec notre père jusqu'a 
l'arrivée de la guerre en Sierra Léone. A la suite de nombreuses escapades nous 
nous sommes réfugiés dans la province de Falaba aux frontières de la Guinée 
Conakry.
 
Mon père fut grièvement blessé et mourut dans la nuit du Samedi 09 Février 2002 
lors d'une attaque dans notre quartier, Cette nuit là, il m'a expliqué qu'il a 
déposé la somme de  USD " $13.800.000 " (Treize millions, huit cent milles 
Dollars Américains) en liquide; qu'il avait pris la précaution de les garder 
dans une boîte qu'il a confié à une agence de sécurité et m'avait nommée 
Héritière. Il déposa la boîte en tant que biens de valeurs et trésors familiaux 
et garda le privilège du secret de son contenu pour des raisons de sécurité et 
pour ne pas attirer l'attention des personnes malveillantes qui seront prêtes à 
nous faire du mal pour obtenir ses fonds.
 
De ce fait l'agence de sécurité en question ne connaît pas le contenu de la 
boîte.
 
Mon père m'indiqua un lieu secret que nous avions ensemble où j'ai trouvé une 
enveloppe dans laquelle il a tout expliqué et où j'ai eu les documents de dépôt 
de la boîte en plus de l'adresse de l'agence de sécurité où la boîte fut 
déposée ici en Côte D'Ivoire .
 
 Je me suis enfui vers la Guinée avec mon frère âgé de 12 ans seulement. Nous 
nous y sommes cachés pendant deux ans pour nous faire oublier ,pour notre 
propre sécurité car ceux qui avaient attaqué notre village était à notre 
recherche .
 
J'ai 24 ans et je vis Actuellement en Côte D'Ivoire à Abidjan avec mon jeune 
frère  depuis le 05 Juillet 2004 dans la volonté de retirer ma boîte et son 
contenu pour les investir. Mais dès notre arrivée ici il y a eu la crise et 
l'agence de sécurité en question nous a informé que notre colis a accumulé des 
frais pour sa garde que nous devions régler avant le retrait de la boîte. Mais 
nous n'avions plus d'argent pour régler ces frais car nous en avions juste 
assez pour survivre , en plus ce que nous avions  n'atteignaient pas les frais 
de l'agence .
 
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agence et mettre nos fonds en sécurité .Ensuite nous aider à venir vous 
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nous sommes seuls et en difficultés financières donc j'ai besoin de votre 
soutien moral et de votre aide.
 
Je vous demande Votre humble compréhension et votre sagesse, pour nous aider à 
sortir de notre problème car Franchement je vous demande cette aide avec toute 
la peur et certains doutes pour cette raison je voudrais que vous me répondiez 
sincèrement et que vous me dites si vous serrez dans la possibilité de nous 
aider à retirer notre colis avec votre sincérité et votre honnêteté.
 
J'attends de vous relire .mais je ne prendrais pas mal une réponse négative et 
je comprendrais très bien, aussi l'offre de votre aide du fond du coeur.
 
Alors je tiens à vous poser à ceci peu de questions :
 
 1-) Pouvez nous aider sincèrement de façon franche et honnête à sortir de 
notre problème en tant que votre frère et soeur ? 
 
 2-) Puis je vous faire totalement confiance et avoir votre discrétion pour la 
sécurité de notre boîte et son contenu ?
 
3-)Combien de pourcentage sera convenable pour vous, pour vos efforts et 
votre aide envers nous une fois que la boîte sera en votre possession ?
 
 S'il vous plaît considérez ceci et donnez nous une réponse franche et sincère 
.aider nous en tant que votre frère et soeur parce que nous sommes orphelins et 
nous n'avons plus personne sur cette terre.
 
 Que Dieu vous bénisse.
J'attends de vous relire.
 
 
 Mlle Massandie Diaby


  
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problems with etter

[Heartfelt]

HI.  Im a newbie whos just fed up with being attacked with worms and 
other shit.  n e ways.  I recently tried to download the ettercap 
0.7.3.orig.tar.gz and when i went to unzip it it said that i had to 
create its own archive.  Am i doin somethin wrong here.  hit me back. my 
email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] thank



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Re: Doubts and Ideas

[Josip Rodin]

On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 11:56:36AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> I am willing to relicense my contributions under the GPL v2; but
>  I am not willing to assign my copyright away.
> 
> I specifically do not trust the SPI enough to allow them to
>  relicense my work in the future.

And you were committing all this time to the web site which says it's
copyright SPI? Unknowingly?

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Re: Doubts and Ideas

[Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)]

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On 05/31/2007 01:56 PM, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:23:44 -0700, Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: 
> 
>> On Wed, 30 May 2007, Josip Rodin wrote:
>>> It's unlikely that our web pages have much content for which there
>>> isn't prior art, or simply common knowledge.
> 
>> Prior art isn't an issue, since it's not patented.
> 
>> In any event, to resolve this issue completely all that we need is 1)
>> a GPG signed email from every contributor saying that they either
>> assign copyright of their contributions to SPI or give SPI a
>> non-exclusive royalte-free license to do with the copyright work as
>> they see fit 2) a directive from the DPL to SPI to license the work
>> under GPL (or MIT/Expat or whatever -www decides.)
> 
> I am willing to relicense my contributions under the GPL v2; 

Thank you.


> but I am not willing to assign my copyright away.

Ok, as noted in another message with Don Armstrong, we
are probably going with both options, people can either assign
copyright of their contributions to SPI or relicense it. :)


> I specifically do not trust the SPI enough to allow them to
>  relicense my work in the future.

Would you allow the Debian WWW Team (or a DPL delegate for
that matter) to relicense your work under a DFSG compatible license?
Or, would you dual-license it GPLv2 and MIT/Expat?  That would make
our work easier.

Anyway, you are a WWW contributor easy to contact to ask
for arrangements about licensing issues, so I think we just have
to wait a little bit until Don propose the "game plan" before we
start working on this.


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[Kirill Frolov]

"Probanauchpribor" LLC (п·п·п· "п║п п▒ "п÷я─п╬п╠п╟п╫п╟я┐я┤п©я─п╦п╠п╬я─" in 
russian), St.
Petersburg, Russia (see http://probapribor.spb.ru/) uses Debian as
internet and LAN servers (samba as windows domain controller), and
desktop OS for software development for embedded systems. But
organization have much more windows machines.

As server platform  Debian is choosen for its excellent stability
and reliability and security updates. As development platform Debian
choosen for availability of software without need to build it and
install it by hands.

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[osmar della paschoa jr]

Software Development, DellaPaschoa Engenharia de Software, Brazil

Comercial

www.dellapaschoa.com.br

Actually we have 1 Server, 3 software development workstations and  1 
laptop using Debian.


Debian is the most secure, stable and robust distribution of GNU/Linux. 
We are very satisfied with this choice.


Today we use C++, CGI, Gtkmm, Glade and PostgreSQL for all.




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Re: Doubts and Ideas

[Manoj Srivastava]

On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:23:44 -0700, Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: 

> On Wed, 30 May 2007, Josip Rodin wrote:
>> It's unlikely that our web pages have much content for which there
>> isn't prior art, or simply common knowledge.

> Prior art isn't an issue, since it's not patented.

> In any event, to resolve this issue completely all that we need is 1)
> a GPG signed email from every contributor saying that they either
> assign copyright of their contributions to SPI or give SPI a
> non-exclusive royalte-free license to do with the copyright work as
> they see fit 2) a directive from the DPL to SPI to license the work
> under GPL (or MIT/Expat or whatever -www decides.)

I am willing to relicense my contributions under the GPL v2; but
 I am not willing to assign my copyright away.

I specifically do not trust the SPI enough to allow them to
 relicense my work in the future.

If SPI wants to discuss work-for-hire agreements, they can mail
 me off list.

manoj
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Re: Doubts and Ideas

[Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña]

On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 10:58:43PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > And considering a lot of other people have infinite more
> > understading of Copyright issues, what should we do if we can't
> > find/contact the contributor and/or he/she decides to not relicense
> > it? Is it possible to remove the content and rewrite it free?
> 
> If for some reason we can't find a contributor (or a contributor has
> fallen off the face of the planet) we should indicate as such and
> probably just assume that they meant to give us free reign. If they
> decide not to license it appropriately, then we should rip whatever it
> is out of the webpage and rewrite it.

I proposed in the bug report the following (in addition to what Don
suggested):

- post to d-a that the license is going to change in X months and that
  contributors are going to be contacted. Provide pointers to anyone feels he
  should be contacted and isn't

- put a News item in the website explaining that the license change will be
  introduced in X months and do the same as with the e-mail

After X months have gone through, the contributor's GPG emails have been
collected, and SPI has been contacted and hold up a meeting clearing the way,
change licence.wml as appropiate, add a *new* News item and e-mail d-a again.

That way we are acting on good faith and nobody would have a reason to claim
that the license change was introduced without they knowing it.

> We probably should also come up with a set of guidelines for
> contributors so that we avoid accidentally ending up with work not
> written by a contributor in the website too. (Or at least, have such
> work be clearly marked.)

Absolutely true. The place for that is
www.debian.org/devel/website/guidelines or something similar. Anyone wants to
start writting it up?

Regards

Javier


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Re: Doubts and Ideas

[Josip Rodin]

On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 06:23:44PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > It's unlikely that our web pages have much content for which there
> > isn't prior art, or simply common knowledge.
> 
> Prior art isn't an issue, since it's not patented.

I meant that thing that makes copyright applicable - a modicum of
originality. The vast majority of our web site content is simply not
original, because of the nature of the web site, which is to describe the
established facts regarding Debian. These facts are pre-existent, and
editors mostly can't claim the exclusive right (copyright) on them.
There's a handful of essay-like materials where there's significant added
value in the text, and the non-content stuff like code and design,
but the copyrightability of everything else to the editor of the web site
is at least moot.

> In any event, to resolve this issue completely all that we need is 1)
> a GPG signed email from every contributor saying that they either
> assign copyright of their contributions to SPI or give SPI a
> non-exclusive royalte-free license to do with the copyright work as
> they see fit 2) a directive from the DPL to SPI to license the work
> under GPL (or MIT/Expat or whatever -www decides.)
> 
> #1 should probably be made a part of the proceedure that is followed
> when you get commit access to the cvs, and #2 is simply a matter of
> e-mailing leader@ once -www decides which licence.

Yeah.

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