Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Tests turned up

2003-07-02 Thread Bill Landry



The settings of the tests are really a personal 
preference, and you will need to tune them over time to meet your specific needs 
and requirements.  The default settings are conservative and safe, so you 
can certainly start using Declude with these settings.  You should only 
enable the Sniffer test if you actually have the application.  You can find 
out more about the Sniffer plug-in for Declude at www.sortmonster.com.
 
Bill

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  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Tests turned 
  up
  
  
  Does 
  anyone have advice on their favorite settings for the standard tests?:
  I am 
  using the PRO version, should sniffer be turned 
  on?
   
  DSBL    
      
  HOLD
  ORDB   
      
  WARN
  OSDUL 
      
  WARN
  OSFORM  
  WARN
  OSLIST 
      
  WARN
  OSRELAY 
  WARN
  OSSMART    
  WARN
  OSSOFT  
   
  HOLD
  OSSRC  
     
  HOLD
  SPAMCOP    
  HOLD
   
  DSN 
      
  WARN
  NOABUSE    
  WARN
  NOPOSTMASTER 
  WARN
   
  BADHEADERS  
      
  WARN
  HELOBOGUS        
  HOLD
  MAILFROM    
     
  WARN
  PERCENT 
  HOLD
  REVDNS   
  WARN
  ROUTING  
  WARN
  SPAMHEADERS   
  HOLD
   
  #SNIFFER 
  WARN
   
  WEIGHT10    
  WARN
  WEIGHT20    
  HOLD
   


[Declude.JunkMail] Tests turned up

2003-07-02 Thread News








Does
anyone have advice on their favorite settings for the standard tests?:

I am
using the PRO version, should sniffer be turned on?

 

DSBL        HOLD

ORDB       WARN

OSDUL     WARN

OSFORM  WARN

OSLIST     WARN

OSRELAY WARN

OSSMART    WARN

OSSOFT 
 HOLD

OSSRC 
   HOLD

SPAMCOP    HOLD

 

DSN     WARN

NOABUSE    WARN

NOPOSTMASTER WARN

 

BADHEADERS      WARN

HELOBOGUS        HOLD

MAILFROM       WARN

PERCENT HOLD

REVDNS   WARN

ROUTING  WARN

SPAMHEADERS   HOLD

 

#SNIFFER WARN

 

WEIGHT10    WARN

WEIGHT20    HOLD

 








RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Multiple actions and Weight

2003-07-02 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
> I send the TESTSFAILED in the spamattach message body with the attached
> mail. It looks like it failed an incredible number of tests but it
> really only failed the HELOBOGUS, IPNOTINMX, FROMFILE, SNIFFER

Although I do not use spamattach, I only use TESTSFAILED in the headers.

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Multiple actions and Weight

2003-07-02 Thread David Stavert
Scott
> The weight and weightrange test types don't add to the weight of the 
> E-mail, so that won't be an issue.

I did a very poor job of explaining my problem. Very poor. Extremely
poor. This is really about reporting. If I have a WEIGHT10 test and a
WEIGHT20 test, %TESTSFAILED% will show WEIGHT10, WEIGHT20 plus all the
tests that failed assuming the weight hits 20. Because I use a duplicate
tests WEIGHT10 and WEIGHT10a, WEIGHT20 and WEIGHT20a etc. I have all the
weight tests show in with TESTSFAILED. In reality I have WEIGHT10,
WEIGHT12, WEIGHT15, and 20 plus some of them duplicated, to handle some
odd situations so TESTSFAILED shows all of them as well as the actual
tests. I have had to explain more than once why Grandmas email failed so
many tests. I also have a couple of WEIGHTRANGES so that adds to the
problem as well. It isn't unusual to have a string as an example
HELOBOGUS, IPNOTINMX, FROMFILE, SNIFFER, WEIGHT0, WEIGHT9, WEIGHT9a,
WEIGHT10, WEIGHT10a, WEIGHT12, WEIGHT12a, WEIGHT15, WEIGHT15a, WEIGHT20,
WEIGHT20a, WEIGHT21_200, WEIGHT21_200a

I send the TESTSFAILED in the spamattach message body with the attached
mail. It looks like it failed an incredible number of tests but it
really only failed the HELOBOGUS, IPNOTINMX, FROMFILE, SNIFFER



Thanks
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] AUTH emails can be flagged

2003-07-02 Thread Kevin Bilbee
I second that. That is one of my biggest issues when people travel and
connect with dialup or dsl or the likes.


Kevin Bilbee

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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] AUTH emails can be flagged


Scott,

I noticed that IMail 8.0 HF1 now includes the anticipated "A" lines in the
Q*.SMD files when a user is authenticated via SMTP AUTH.  The format is:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Can you incorporate this into a new test so that we can reduce the weight on
emails that are sent using SMTP Authentication?

Thanks,
Bill


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[Declude.JunkMail] AUTH emails can be flagged

2003-07-02 Thread Bill B.
Scott,

I noticed that IMail 8.0 HF1 now includes the anticipated "A" lines in the Q*.SMD 
files when a user is authenticated via SMTP AUTH.  The format is:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Can you incorporate this into a new test so that we can reduce the weight on emails 
that are sent using SMTP Authentication?

Thanks,
Bill


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[Declude.JunkMail] re: Strange logging

2003-07-02 Thread Kevin Bilbee
Note some of the log lines in the attached log snip are merged together I
caught this when my log analyser told me that I have a test called
SPAM07/02/2003

LOGLEVELHIGH
Declude version 1.70i14

Look at the time slice if 09:24:32 - 09:24:33 it looks like 6 processes were
trying to write to the log at the same time.


Kevin Bilbee
Network Administrator
Standard Abrasives, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(805) 520-5800 x7332

Changing the way industry works.
07/02/2003 09:24:31 Q072801b4d40e REVDNS:8 ROUTING:4 .  Total weight = 12
07/02/2003 09:24:31 Q072801b4d40e Msg failed REVDNS (This E-mail was sent from a 
MUA/MTA 203.194.209.177 with no reverse DNS entry.). Action=IGNORE.
07/02/2003 09:24:31 Q072801b4d40e Msg failed ROUTING (This E-mail was routed in a 
poor manner consistent with spam [210f].). Action=IGNORE.
07/02/2003 09:24:31 Q072801b4d40e Msg failed WEIGHT5 (Weight of 12 reaches or 
exceeds the limit of 5.). Action=IGNORE.
07/02/2003 09:24:31 Q072801b4d40e Msg failed SPAM-LOW (Total weight between 11 and 
12.). Action=IGNORE.
07/02/2003 09:24:31 Q072801b4d40e R1 Message OK
07/02/2003 09:24:31 Q072801b4d40e Using [incoming] CFG file 
D:\IMAIL\Declude\$default$.junkmail.
07/02/2003 09:24:31 Q072803890036d440 REVDNS:8 ROUTING:4 .  Total weight = 12
07/02/2003 09:24:31 Q072803890036d440 Msg failed REVDNS (This E-mail was sent from a 
MUA/MTA 203.194.209.177 with no reverse DNS entry.). Action=IGNORE.
07/02/2003 09:24:31 Q072803890036d440 Msg failed ROUTING (This E-mail was routed in a 
poor manner consistent with spam [210f].). Action=IGNORE.
07/02/2003 09:24:31 Q072803890036d440 Msg failed WEIGHT5 (Weight of 12 reaches or 
exceeds the limit of 5.). Action=IGNORE.
07/02/2003 09:24:31 Q072803890036d440 Msg failed SPAM-LOW (Total weight between 11 and 
12.). Action=IGNORE.
07/02/2003 09:24:31 Q072803890036d440 R1 Message OK
07/02/2003 09:24:31 Q072803890036d440 Using [incoming] CFG file 
D:\IMAIL\Declude\$default$.junkmail.
07/02/2003 09:24:32 Q0728012a00b0d4a4 REVDNS:8 ROUTING:4 .  Total weight = 12
07/02/2003 09:24:32 Q0728012a00b0d4a4 Msg failed REVDNS (This E-mail was sent from a 
MUA/MTA 203.194.209.177 with no reverse DNS entry.). Action=IGNORE.
07/02/2003 09:24:32 Q0728012a00b0d4a4 Msg failed ROUTING (This E-mail was routed in a 
poor manner consistent with spam [210f].). Action=IGNORE.
07/02/2003 09:24:32 Q0728012a00b0d4a4 Msg failed WEIGHT5 (Weight of 12 reaches or 
exceeds the limit of 5.). Action=IGNORE.
07/02/2003 09:24:32 Q0728012a00b0d4a4 Msg failed SPAM-LOW (Total weight between 11 and 
12.). Action=IGNORE.
07/02/2003 09:24:32 Q0728012a00b0d4a4 R1 Message OK
07/02/2003 09:24:32 Q0728012a00b0d4a4 Using [incoming] CFG file 
D:\IMAIL\Declude\$default$.junkmail.
07/02/2003 09:24:32 Q0728012a00b0d4a4 Msg failed REVDNS (This E-mail was sent from a 
MUA/MTA 203.194.209.177 with no reverse DNS entry.). Action=WARN.
07/02/2003 09:24:32 Q0728012a00b0d4a4 Msg failed ROUTING (This E-mail was routed in a 
poor manner consistent with spam [210f].). Action=WARN.
07/02/2003 09:24:32 Q072803890036d440 Msg failed REVDNS (This E-mail was sent from a 
MUA/MTA 203.194.209.177 with no reverse07/02/2003 09:24:32 Q07297/02/2003 09:24:32 
Q072801b4d40e Msg failed REVDNS (This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 
203.194.209.177 with no reverse DNS entry.). Action=WARN.
07/02/2003 09:24:33 Q072801b4d40e Msg failed ROUTING (This E-mail was routed in a 
poor manner consistent with spam [210f].). Action=WARN.
07/02/2003 09:24:33 Q072801b4d40e Msg failed WEIGHT5 (Weight of 12 reaches or 
exceeds the limit of 5.). Action=IGNORE.
07/02/2003 09:24:32 Q0729000e00e2d923 REVDNS:8 ROUTING:4 .  Total weight = 12
 11 and 12.). Action=SUBJECT.
07/02/2003 09:24:33 Q0729001300ead7ed REVDNS:8 ROUTING:4 .  Total weight = 12
rom a MUA/MTA 203.194.209.177 with no reverse DNS entry.). Action=IG07/02/2003 
09:24:33 Q0729000e00e6d85b REVDNS:8 ROUTING:4 .  Total weight = 12
07/02/2003 09:24:33 Q0729000f00d2d5d0 REVDNS:8 ROUTING:4 .  Total weight = 12
07/02/2003 09:24:33 Q0729001200bed685 REVDNS:8 ROUTING:4 .  Total weight = 12
07/02/2003 09:24:33 Q0728012a00b0d4a4 L2 Message OK
07/02/2003 09:24:33 Q072803890036d440 Msg failed WEIGHT5 (Weight of 12 reaches or 
exceeds the limit of 5.). Action=IGNORE.
 DNS entry.). Action=IGNORE.
07/02/2003 09:24:33 Q0729000f00e8d7f7 Msg failed ROUTING (This E-mail was routed in a 
poor manner consistent with spam [210f].). Action=IGNORE.
RE.
07/02/2003 09:24:33 Q0729000e00e4d883 Msg failed REVDNS (This E-mail was sent from a 
MUA/MTA 203.194.209.177 with no reverse DNS entry.). Action=IGNORE.
07/02/2003 09:24:33 Q0729001400ecd707 Msg failed REVDNS (This E-mail was sent from a 
MUA/MTA 203.194.209.177 with no reverse DNS entry.). Action=IGNORE.
07/02/2003 09:24:33 Q0729001200bed685 Msg failed REVDNS (This E-mail was sent from a 
MUA/MTA 203.194.209.177 with no reverse DNS entry.). Action=IGNORE.
07/02/2003 09:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Any ideas about Dartmail.net?

2003-07-02 Thread Mike Nice
Ironically, HELO dell.com is a 100% reliable indicator of spam.  Do you
think Dell has outgoing mail servers that run SMTP instead of ESMTP?   A
real server would say EHLO dell.com.  Be careful of this one before you
apply it willy nilly.  Yahoo uses the older SMTP for some of its outoing
E-mail so REVDNS helps out there.

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One word of caution.. We found real fast when a number of spam got through
that HELO is not reliable at all.  Spammers were faking helo for Dell, IBM,
and Microsoft.

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[Declude.JunkMail] SPAMDOMAINS sd.txt file

2003-07-02 Thread Bill Newberg
Is there a site available where I can download the latest sd.txt file that
people are using for the SPAMDOMAINS test?

Thank you,

Bill

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re: [Declude.JunkMail] Attachments & JM

2003-07-02 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
KR> SPAM hardly comes with PDF attachments or Word or even less likely
KR> with Excel.  Perhaps one easy way to combat this is to figure out
KR> the attachment (don't know how) & may be we can assign a negative
KR> weight to emails with such attachments.

.. another 2 cents to echo Scott's reply regarding full MIME decoding.
I've recently seen a few bounces that look like a deliberate* method of
delivering a spam message from a trusted server/method.  Specifically,
I've received undeliverable messages to me that originated from
spammer X, who sent the message to innocent party A, who then bounced
the message to me from postmaster.

What I received is a MIME message with another MIME message as an
attachment, which was pure spam.

So, full MIME decoding would also have to incorporate some recursiveness
to decode messages within messages.

Andrew 8)

* Deliberate?  Maybe yes, maybe no.  I also got "Joe jobbed" at a
different e-mail address where the spammer must have gotten annoyed with
me, and for about a month was sending spam as "random name" 
so I was receiving a lot of postmaster bounces and the odd cease and desist
request from an antispam newbie.
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Console Problem

2003-07-02 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
> >OK Further investigation shows deccon.exe IS running (so says the taks
> >manager) however, there is nothing showing up on the desktop. Weird eh?
> 
> Are you using Terminal Services (which doesn't seem to have any way to
> display the default desktop)?

Speaking of this, is anyone running Imail with Declude on Windows Server
2003?

If so, have you tried making a Remote Desktop connection (not a normal TS
connection) from a XP machine to check this function? 

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Console Problem

2003-07-02 Thread R. Scott Perry

OK Further investigation shows deccon.exe IS running (so says the taks
manager) however, there is nothing showing up on the desktop. Weird eh?
Are you using Terminal Services (which doesn't seem to have any way to 
display the default desktop)?

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Console Problem

2003-07-02 Thread Timm Jasper
> >Nope, just shut down the services, ran the patch and restarted the
server.
> >(It didnt say it had to, but it IS a Windows machine)
>
> Do the Declude log files show any errors?
>
> -Scott

OK Further investigation shows deccon.exe IS running (so says the taks
manager) however, there is nothing showing up on the desktop. Weird eh?

Any ideas?

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Any ideas about Dartmail.net?

2003-07-02 Thread Kami Razvan
Hi Andrew:

Thanks for your note...

One word of caution.. We found real fast when a number of spam got through
that HELO is not reliable at all.  Spammers were faking helo for Dell, IBM,
and Microsoft.

After a couple of spams came through one after another we stopped using
HELO.

Scott actually mentioned that a while back & I thought spammers are not that
smart.. Guess what?

We are now getting a lot of spam with emails that use ... @dell.com or
@ibm.com

Regards,
Kami

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Kami, I found that mail from dartmail.net was all legitimate newsletters,
but mail from "maildart" was spam.  I let the RBLs do their usual job, but
then I counterweight with:

HELO -50 ENDSWITH dartmail.net

although I prefer REVDNS, I find this a reliable middleground (WHITELIST
being on the other end).

Andrew 8)
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Console Problem

2003-07-02 Thread R. Scott Perry

> Do the Declude log files show any errors?
> ---
None that I can see. Would the error be obvious?
It should be -- I was expecting something like lines of "Could not start 
console" or "Invalid activation code" for each E-mail that is received.

Is the \IMail\Deccon.exe file there?

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Console Problem

2003-07-02 Thread Timm Jasper
> Do the Declude log files show any errors?
> 
> -Scott
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None that I can see. Would the error be obvious?


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re: [Declude.JunkMail] Any ideas about Dartmail.net?

2003-07-02 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Kami, I found that mail from dartmail.net was all legitimate newsletters,
but mail from "maildart" was spam.  I let the RBLs do their usual job, but
then I counterweight with:

HELO -50 ENDSWITH dartmail.net

although I prefer REVDNS, I find this a reliable middleground (WHITELIST
being on the other end).

Andrew 8)
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Multiple actions and Weight

2003-07-02 Thread R. Scott Perry
The weight and weightrange test types don't add to the weight of the 
E-mail, so that won't be an issue.
   -Scott

At 02:39 PM 7/2/2003, David Stavert wrote:
> There actually is an easy way around this.  Instead of:
>
>  BADHEADERS1 badheaders  x   x   8   0
>  BADHEADERS2 badheaders  x   x   8   0
>
> you can use:
>
>  BADHEADERS1 badheaders  x   x   8   0
>  BADHEADERS2 badheaders  x   x   0   0
I use weight or weightrange.

Thanks
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Multiple actions and Weight

2003-07-02 Thread David Stavert
> There actually is an easy way around this.  Instead of:
> 
>  BADHEADERS1 badheaders  x   x   8   0
>  BADHEADERS2 badheaders  x   x   8   0
> 
> you can use:
> 
>  BADHEADERS1 badheaders  x   x   8   0
>  BADHEADERS2 badheaders  x   x   0   0

I use weight or weightrange.

Thanks
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Console Problem

2003-07-02 Thread R. Scott Perry

Nope, just shut down the services, ran the patch and restarted the server.
(It didnt say it had to, but it IS a Windows machine)
Do the Declude log files show any errors?

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Console Problem

2003-07-02 Thread Timm Jasper
>Did the Imail directory change?


Nope, just shut down the services, ran the patch and restarted the server.
(It didnt say it had to, but it IS a Windows machine)


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Console Problem

2003-07-02 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
> Declude Console stopped working after the 8.01 Imail Upgrade (Pro). The
mail
> is getting through the server and is being commented by Declude. I did not
> change anything else. I even tried bumping up to 1.70 beta, still no
> console. The line in the global and virus .cfg files should read 'Console
> On' correct?

Did the Imail directory change?

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AW: [Declude.JunkMail] Misunderstanding something?

2003-07-02 Thread interactiveaustria
Hi,

> Please post the JunkMail log for this message.

07/02/2003 16:45:06 Qefee01b302f619ae Msg failed NOABUSE (Not supporting
[EMAIL PROTECTED]). Action=WARN.
07/02/2003 16:45:06 Qefee01b302f619ae Msg failed NOPOSTMASTER (Not
supporting [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Action=WARN.
07/02/2003 16:45:06 Qefee01b302f619ae Msg failed BADHEADERS (This E-mail was
sent from a broken mail client [801e].). Action=WARN.
07/02/2003 16:45:07 Qefee01b302f619ae Msg failed HELOBOGUS (Domain
213.229.61.98 has no MX or A records.). Action=WARN.
07/02/2003 16:45:07 Qefee01b302f619ae Msg failed REVDNS (This E-mail was
sent from a MUA/MTA 24.69.232.164 with no reverse DNS entry.). Action=WARN.
07/02/2003 16:45:07 Qefee01b302f619ae Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Weight of 21
reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.). Action=WARN.
07/02/2003 16:45:07 Qefee01b302f619ae Msg failed WEIGHT20 (Weight of 21
reaches or exceeds the limit of 20.). Action=WARN.

>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of interactiveaustria
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 8:44 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Misunderstanding something?
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I changed the line in my Global.cfg file to not deliver Mail
> with a weight
> > of 20 (or more):
> >
> > WEIGHT20HOLD
> >
> > Why does an E-Mail with a weight of 21 come through?
> >
> > ...
> > X-RBL-Warning: NOABUSE: Not supporting [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > X-RBL-Warning: NOPOSTMASTER: Not supporting [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > X-RBL-Warning: BADHEADERS: This E-mail was sent from a broken
> mail client
> > [801e].
> > X-RBL-Warning: HELOBOGUS: Domain 213.229.61.98 has no MX or A records.
> > X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 24.69.232.164
> > with no reverse DNS entry.
> > X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 21 reaches or exceeds the
> limit of 10.
> > X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT20: Weight of 21 reaches or exceeds the
> limit of 20.
> > ...
> > X-Spam-Tests-Failed: NOABUSE, NOPOSTMASTER, BADHEADERS,
> > HELOBOGUS,
> > IPNOTINMX, REVDNS, WEIGHT10, WEIGHT20 [21]
> >
> > Am I misunderstanding something?
> >
> > Michael
> > +--+
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> > | Michael Tobisch EDV-Dienstleistungen |
> > | Wiesengasse 12, A-8160 Weiz  |
> > | Tel +43 3172 4930|
> > | GSM +43 664 2126941  |
> > | EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
> > | Web http://www.iaa.at|
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> > | http://www.iaa.at/kundeninfo.asp |
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[Declude.JunkMail] Console Problem

2003-07-02 Thread Timm Jasper
Declude Console stopped working after the 8.01 Imail Upgrade (Pro). The mail
is getting through the server and is being commented by declude. I did not
change anything else. I even tried bumping up to 1.70 beta, still no
console. The line in the global and virus .cfg files should read 'Console
On' correct?

Any Ideas? I dont really use it for anything other than monitoring, but it
was kinda nice.

Thanks in advance..




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Multiple actions and Weight

2003-07-02 Thread R. Scott Perry

I use duplicated tests to perform multiple actions. In one I do and
ATTACH with one and a ROUTETO to forward the mail to a central mailbox
for the domain. The problem with this (or any duplicated test to
accomplish multiple actions) is that the weight is cumulative so the
failure is double. This is especially a problem with weight based
actions but also in reporting using TESTSFAILED. Anyone figured a way
around this.
There actually is an easy way around this.  Instead of:

BADHEADERS1 badheaders  x   x   8   0
BADHEADERS2 badheaders  x   x   8   0
you can use:

BADHEADERS1 badheaders  x   x   8   0
BADHEADERS2 badheaders  x   x   0   0
This way, Declude JunkMail will only apply a weight of 8 to E-mails failing 
the BADHEADERS test, rather than a weight of 16.

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[Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8 and antispam

2003-07-02 Thread Mark Smith
Just installed Imail 8 and was wondering what the consensus about the
default DNS blackslists are?

Are most junkmail/sniffer users leaving these enabled or disabling them?

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[Declude.JunkMail] Multiple actions and Weight

2003-07-02 Thread David Stavert
I use duplicated tests to perform multiple actions. In one I do and
ATTACH with one and a ROUTETO to forward the mail to a central mailbox
for the domain. The problem with this (or any duplicated test to
accomplish multiple actions) is that the weight is cumulative so the
failure is double. This is especially a problem with weight based
actions but also in reporting using TESTSFAILED. Anyone figured a way
around this. 

I would still like to see a combo ATTACH / ROUTETO action (ATTACHTO?).
It is so sucessful. Mail is routed to a domain based junkmail folder as
an attachment. Most domain administrators love it because it takes the
mail away from users but still leaves it intact. Company principals love
it because sensitive mail is at least semi-concealed from mail
administrators when they forward an FP message.

Thanks
David Stavert

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Misunderstanding something?

2003-07-02 Thread R. Scott Perry

I changed the line in my Global.cfg file to not deliver Mail with a weight
of 20 (or more):
WEIGHT20HOLD

Why does an E-Mail with a weight of 21 come through?
That is because:

X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT20: Weight of 21 reaches or exceeds the limit of 20.
The X-RBL-Warning: headers only appear if you use the WARN 
action.  Therefore, the configuration file used to determine the actions to 
take on this E-mail has "WEIGHT20 WARN" in it.

Note that the global.cfg file is used for outgoing mail; for incoming 
E-mail, you would use the $default$.JunkMail file.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Misunderstanding something?

2003-07-02 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Please post the JunkMail log for this message.

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of interactiveaustria
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 8:44 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Misunderstanding something?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I changed the line in my Global.cfg file to not deliver Mail with a weight
> of 20 (or more):
> 
> WEIGHT20  HOLD
> 
> Why does an E-Mail with a weight of 21 come through?
> 
> ...
> X-RBL-Warning: NOABUSE: Not supporting [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> X-RBL-Warning: NOPOSTMASTER: Not supporting [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> X-RBL-Warning: BADHEADERS: This E-mail was sent from a broken mail client
> [801e].
> X-RBL-Warning: HELOBOGUS: Domain 213.229.61.98 has no MX or A records.
> X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 24.69.232.164
> with no reverse DNS entry.
> X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 21 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.
> X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT20: Weight of 21 reaches or exceeds the limit of 20.
> ...
> X-Spam-Tests-Failed: NOABUSE, NOPOSTMASTER, BADHEADERS,
> HELOBOGUS,
> IPNOTINMX, REVDNS, WEIGHT10, WEIGHT20 [21]
> 
> Am I misunderstanding something?
> 
> Michael
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> | Michael Tobisch EDV-Dienstleistungen |
> | Wiesengasse 12, A-8160 Weiz  |
> | Tel +43 3172 4930|
> | GSM +43 664 2126941  |
> | EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
> | Web http://www.iaa.at|
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[Declude.JunkMail] opinion about buongiorno.com

2003-07-02 Thread Markus Gufler
We've seen more and more "spam" comming from buongiorno.com.
Their IP is also listed on OSSRC and SPAMBAG, but when you go to their
website

http://www.buongiorno.com/uk/ 

it looks like they offer a lot of newsletters following the opt-in
principle.
In addition it's also possible to send the own (legit) newsletter over
their system if you have at least 5000 subscribers.
A recipient can unsubsribe whenever he want. Buongiornos customers are
among others the italian and the austrian government, Warner Bros, top
european mobile providers, ...)
They earn by adding some advertisement between the newsletter content.

What's your opinion: Should I/we whitelist, or give at least a negative
weight to messages from buongiorno.com?

Markus




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[Declude.JunkMail] Misunderstanding something?

2003-07-02 Thread interactiveaustria
Hi,

I changed the line in my Global.cfg file to not deliver Mail with a weight
of 20 (or more):

WEIGHT20HOLD

Why does an E-Mail with a weight of 21 come through?

...
X-RBL-Warning: NOABUSE: Not supporting [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-RBL-Warning: NOPOSTMASTER: Not supporting [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-RBL-Warning: BADHEADERS: This E-mail was sent from a broken mail client
[801e].
X-RBL-Warning: HELOBOGUS: Domain 213.229.61.98 has no MX or A records.
X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 24.69.232.164
with no reverse DNS entry.
X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 21 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.
X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT20: Weight of 21 reaches or exceeds the limit of 20.
...
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: NOABUSE, NOPOSTMASTER, BADHEADERS, HELOBOGUS,
IPNOTINMX, REVDNS, WEIGHT10, WEIGHT20 [21]

Am I misunderstanding something?

Michael
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] bad country code?

2003-07-02 Thread R. Scott Perry

I never saw any comment on the country code problem I was having.  Is there
an updated list that would have properly identified this email?  Is there a
way to detect "reserved" countries?
You can download the latest IP->Country database from 
http://www.declude.com/release/170/all_list.dat .

Note that there are no known instances of spammers forging IPs, so if there 
aren't any IP designations that you should always block mail from.  While 
there are some that spammers should never send from -- such as private IPs 
-- those IPs could possibly be used internally to send mail.

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[Declude.JunkMail] bad country code?

2003-07-02 Thread Karen D. Oland
Scott,

I never saw any comment on the country code problem I was having.  Is there
an updated list that would have properly identified this email?  Is there a
way to detect "reserved" countries?

Karen

-- original msg --

I just received a junk mail (coffee offer) with the following header
snippet:

X-Declude-Sender:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [69.24.239.48]
X-Declude: Failed FIVETEN-SRC, IPNOTINMX, NOLEGITCONTENT [2]
X-Note: This E-mail was sent from out028.tpcper.com ([69.24.239.48]).
X-Countries: [IANA Reserved]->destination

Is there a way to detect countries that have not been assigned (or an
updated configuration list)?

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam domains

2003-07-02 Thread Markus Gufler

> you would need to have "gmx.at" in the sd.txt file.

As I know GMX a european freemailer use also other TLDs.
For example gmx.de, gmx.net, gmx.it, 

So I've set the following line in my sd-file:

@gmx.   .gmx.


Most spam with a gmx-domain we can see here is from gmx.at.

Markus


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