Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spool and overflow building

2003-10-16 Thread DLAnalyzer Support
Another thing to check is your DNS and if it is resolving properly.  It 
could be that a reboot might resolve problems in DNS, or with IMail 
connecting to DNS.  It might also be a good idea to configure IMail for 
Unfortuantly, Declude does not utilize the second DNS server if specified in 
IMail.  In turn if you use several RBL's will still cause huge queue 
backup's.  We learned this lesson a couple months back. 

Darrell 
---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] What is this test?

2003-10-16 Thread Keith Johnson
Mike,
   The Easynet-Dyna test is an external ip4r DNS test setup in your global.cfg 
file.  See the Declude link below to see further info on this.
 
http://www.declude.com/Junkmail/support/ip4r.htm
 
Keith

-Original Message- 
From: Michael Graveen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thu 10/16/2003 10:14 PM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: 
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] What is this test?



I have a client that has a domain that we host.  They sent an email through
the mail server and it failed the following tests:

X-Spam-Tests-Failed: EASYNET-DYNA, IPNOTINMX [3]

My question is, what is EASYNET-DYNA?  I don't see it in the JunkMail manual.

Thanks,

Mike

[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


<>

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] What is this test?

2003-10-16 Thread Adrian Hauri
Hi Michael

EASYNET-DYNA is the blacklist of dynablock.easynet.nl see:
http://www.declude.com/Junkmail/support/ip4r.htm .

Use WHITELIST AUTH in your GLOBAL.CFG file if you have Imail V8.X and
declude V1.75 so authenticated users will be whitelisted or do not check
outgoing emails.

Cheers

Adrian

-
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Graveen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 12:14 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] What is this test?


> I have a client that has a domain that we host.  They sent an email
through
> the mail server and it failed the following tests:
>
> X-Spam-Tests-Failed: EASYNET-DYNA, IPNOTINMX [3]
>
> My question is, what is EASYNET-DYNA?  I don't see it in the JunkMail
manual.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
> [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]
>
> ---
> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]
>
> ---
> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
> at http://www.mail-archive.com.
>
>

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


[Declude.JunkMail] What is this test?

2003-10-16 Thread Michael Graveen
I have a client that has a domain that we host.  They sent an email through 
the mail server and it failed the following tests:

X-Spam-Tests-Failed: EASYNET-DYNA, IPNOTINMX [3]

My question is, what is EASYNET-DYNA?  I don't see it in the JunkMail manual.

Thanks,

Mike

[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hold action

2003-10-16 Thread R. Scott Perry

I'm not seeing the value in the hold action... does this mean that an 
administrator type has to search the server's hold directory periodically 
and scroll through messages looking for false positives?  Then I assume 
you would want to manually move them back into the recipient's inbox? 
Seems like an unending thankless task which noone really has time for, in 
addition to filling up the HDD with spam.

Am I right in understanding that the hold action simply puts the email in 
a separate directory? Or am I missing something?
That's exactly what the HOLD action does.  What were you looking for?

   -Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers.
Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver 
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


[Declude.JunkMail] Hold action

2003-10-16 Thread John Purnell
I'm not seeing the value in the hold action... does this mean that an 
administrator type has to search the server's hold directory periodically 
and scroll through messages looking for false positives?  Then I assume you 
would want to manually move them back into the recipient's inbox? Seems 
like an unending thankless task which noone really has time for, in 
addition to filling up the HDD with spam.

Am I right in understanding that the hold action simply puts the email in a 
separate directory? Or am I missing something?

so far I've seen no false positives on weight10, so I'm just about ready to 
start deleting.  I see many of you with much higher weights for 
hold/delete.  Maybe because you "provide" email to clients and you need to 
let them make their own decisions?  (I'm a small company and can afford to 
make those command decisions for my users.)

Thanks.
John.
---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spool and overflow building

2003-10-16 Thread Matthew Bramble
Is it me, or is this the third or fourth such message in a day or so?  
That's quite strange.  It's making me think that maybe a recent 
Microsoft, Ipswitch or Declude patch/upgrade might be the root of the 
problem (likely the first of course).

Another list member said that rebooting his server resolved the 
problem.  Another thing to check is your DNS and if it is resolving 
properly.  It could be that a reboot might resolve problems in DNS, or 
with IMail connecting to DNS.  It might also be a good idea to configure 
IMail for a backup DNS server just in case of a failure with the primary.

Matt



Lenny Bauman wrote:

Hello List
   Any idea why my spool and overflow directory are buildingThey are at
over 85,000 messages each.   I am running a dual P3 866 with one gig memory.
The CPU is going from 5% to 90% up and down all day looks like a nice sine
wave.   I am getting mail  from 2 days ago in my box now.  but the count in
the spool directory is building every min.
Lenny Bauman
LRBCG.COM, Inc.
Phone 419-621-5770
Toll Free 1-800-NET-ACCESS (638-2223)
E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 



---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


[Declude.JunkMail] Spool and overflow building

2003-10-16 Thread Lenny Bauman
Hello List
Any idea why my spool and overflow directory are buildingThey are at
over 85,000 messages each.   I am running a dual P3 866 with one gig memory.
The CPU is going from 5% to 90% up and down all day looks like a nice sine
wave.   I am getting mail  from 2 days ago in my box now.  but the count in
the spool directory is building every min.

Lenny Bauman
LRBCG.COM, Inc.
Phone 419-621-5770
Toll Free 1-800-NET-ACCESS (638-2223)
E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message -
From: "William Baumbach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] WANTED: your kill lists


> use at your own risk, there might be good email addresses in this list,
not
> sure, however its the one i use for my Imail Kill.lst
>
> Sincerely,
>
> William J. Baumbach II  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 9975 Pennsylvania Ave. Manassas, Va. 20110-2028
> Ph: 703-367-7900 ext:1708 Fax: 703-691-0946
> -
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joseph Acac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 7:39 PM
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] WANTED: your kill lists
>
>
> anyone willing to send me a copy of their kill list?  I am far behind in
> the filtering spam war, and would appreciate a 'cheat sheet' to update our
> kill list here at Primate.  I'm tired of sifting through held emails via
> Spam Review.  Thanks for your help.
>
> Joseph C. Acac
> CNPRC
> University of California at Davis
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> ---
> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
> (http://www.declude.com)]
>
> ---
> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
> at http://www.mail-archive.com.
>
> [ scanned for spam to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] incoming
> http://www.DcMetroNet.com on 10/13/2003 at 19:43:44-0500et. ]
>
> [ scanned for viruses to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] incoming
> http://www.DcMetroNet.com on 10/13/2003 at 19:43:48-0500et. ]
>
>
>

---
[This E-mail scanned for viruses by LRBCG.COM, Inc.]

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail

2003-10-16 Thread Matthew Bramble




Fred,

Actually, that doesn't work great.  It just repeats the first address
over and over.  My mistake.

I looked into this more thoroughly and it appears that the
IMAIL.##From## variable is actually an array, and it isn't specific to
the From address as it will spit out the To address when you are
viewing the Sent mail folder.  Unfortunately IMAIL.##To## isn't a valid
tag, and I tried/looked for others that might do the trick and none of
them worked.  It appears that the programming switch that changes the
functionality of this tag has something to do with whether or not you
are viewing the Sent or Drafts folders or not.  I couldn't figure out
what causes it to change behaviors though.

One work around would be for you to create a Sent folder in Web Mail
for that account and then just move the messages over there.  You might
even be able to move the messages there automatically by setting up
Declude to deliver the messages to a sub-account like
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (this might not be allowed though).

BTW, if you want to change the label for that button, the file is:

    config_LabelButtonSortBySender.cgi

Matt



Frederick Samarelli wrote:

  
  
  
  Wow that worked great. Do you know
where they keep the Column Title"From" I would like to change it to
"TO".
   
  If you every figure out how to add a
column to have both To and From that would be best.
   
  I really appreciate this.
   
  Thanks.
   
  Fred
   
  
-
Original Message - 
From:
Matthew
Bramble 
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent:
Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:49 PM
Subject:
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail


Fred,

I took a look at it and here's what you do.

In the msgsum.html file search for the following string:

    

Replace that with:

       

If you have users that also access Killer Web Mail, they will see the
changes you make in the global file, so it is recommended that you set
up Killer Web Mail by copying the Web directory over to a particular
domain and then make the changes for that domain only (choose a domain
that no one is using WebMail on.

The default templates are typically located at the following address:

    C:\IMail\Web\

Copy those over to where you keep your E-mail by creating a sub
directory under the root for domain users.  The default location is
under the IMail directory, though you might have changed that:

    C:\IMail\some-domain.com\Web\

I verified this and it works on my machine.

Matt




Frederick Samarelli wrote:

  
  
  Thanks. Looked at the code.
Beyond me
  
-
Original Message - 
From:
Matthew
Bramble 
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent:
Thursday, October 16, 2003 4:36 PM
Subject:
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail


Fred, you can't by default.  If you are savvy with their code, you
could probably change the templates to list the To: address in place of
the From: address in their list interface (probably a matter of
changing a single variable in a single file), but be careful not to
apply the changes to a domain where others are using the Interface.

Jeff, Killer WebMail is an add-on product that is now offered by
Ipswitch:

    http://www.ipswitch.com/Products/IMail_Server/killer_web.html

Matt



Frederick Samarelli wrote:

  I use Killer Web Mail but how do you show and sort by TO: Address.

- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Bramble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail


  
  
I do pretty much the same thing, though I use Killer Web Mail for this
purpose.

I think you are talking about the list of messages, in which case you
might have to re-code your Web Mail templates to get that to work.  You
can though do things like add the weight to the subject and probably
even the To address using the SUBJECT functionality in your
Default.$Junkmail$ file.  I append the weight to the messages with
SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%] for a redundant fail weight test, and then sort by
subject since I never see FP's above a certain score.  This comes in
real handy for testing new filters.  The only drawback of course is that
all BCC data is lost when you block with Declude.

Matt


Frederick Samarelli wrote:



  Does anyone know of a way you can display the sender in the Web Mail for
IMAIL.

I am Routing email to a Web account and would like to display both the
  

  
  TO:
  
  

  and FROM:

Thanks.

Fred

  

  


  

  






[Declude.JunkMail] re: Another ebay scam

2003-10-16 Thread Kevin Bilbee
This is the link in the form tag

http://www.muahaha.us/d.php


It asks for username and password and ther redirects to ebay.

Kevin Bilbee
Network Administrator
Standard Abrasives, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(805) 520-5800 x7332

Changing the way industry works. 
---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Test for nothing in the subject line?

2003-10-16 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
No trouble, James.

It came up in this list before, which is how I knew it.  It's not in the
current manual, but BODY 0 ISBLANK is noted as a new feature in the release
notes web page.  MAILFROM 0 ISBLANK can also be useful, but as always, I
stress not going overboard in the weight assigned.

Andrew 8)

-Original Message-
From: James James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 3:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Test for nothing in the subject line?


Thanks Andrew. I do have JunkMail Pro and I just set this up, but I hate
asking a list when I can look it up myself. Where did you find this?

Thanks,
James
- Original Message -
From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 2:32 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Test for nothing in the subject line?


> If you have JunkMail Pro, you can create a filter text file with a line
> like:
>
> SUBJECT 0 ISBLANK
>
> The weight, of course, is up to you.
>
> Andrew 8)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: James James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 2:04 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Test for nothing in the subject line?
>
>
> Greetings all
>
> I have some users who are starting to get spam with nothing in the subject
> and nothing in the body, save a single link to a picture on the internet.
Is
> there a test for nothing in subject? I already have the subjectchars test
> setup, but that only tests for subjects over a certian link. It would be
> nice to add a few points for an email that fails this.
>
> Thanks
> James James
> Help Desk/Systems Administration
> Lile International
> www.lile.net
>
> ---
> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
> (http://www.declude.com)]
>
> ---
> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
> at http://www.mail-archive.com.
> ---
> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]
>
> ---
> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
> at http://www.mail-archive.com.
>

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.
---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail

2003-10-16 Thread Frederick Samarelli



Wow that worked great. Do you know where they keep 
the Column Title"From" I would like to change it to "TO".
 
If you every figure out how to add a column to have 
both To and From that would be best.
 
I really appreciate this.
 
Thanks.
 
Fred
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Matthew Bramble 

  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:49 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web 
  mail
  Fred,I took a look at it and here's what you 
  do.In the msgsum.html file search for the following 
  string:    Replace 
  that with:    
     If you have users that 
  also access Killer Web Mail, they will see the changes you make in the global 
  file, so it is recommended that you set up Killer Web Mail by copying the Web 
  directory over to a particular domain and then make the changes for that 
  domain only (choose a domain that no one is using WebMail on.The 
  default templates are typically located at the following 
  address:    C:\IMail\Web\Copy those over to 
  where you keep your E-mail by creating a sub directory under the root for 
  domain users.  The default location is under the IMail directory, though 
  you might have changed that:    
  C:\IMail\some-domain.com\Web\I verified this and it works on my 
  machine.MattFrederick Samarelli wrote:
  



Thanks. Looked at the code. Beyond 
me

  - 
  Original Message - 
  From: 
  Matthew Bramble 
  
  To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: 
  Thursday, October 16, 2003 4:36 PM
  Subject: 
  Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail
  Fred, you can't by default.  If you are savvy with 
  their code, you could probably change the templates to list the To: 
  address in place of the From: address in their list interface (probably a 
  matter of changing a single variable in a single file), but be careful not 
  to apply the changes to a domain where others are using the 
  Interface.Jeff, Killer WebMail is an add-on product that is now 
  offered by Ipswitch:    http://www.ipswitch.com/Products/IMail_Server/killer_web.htmlMattFrederick 
  Samarelli wrote:
  I use Killer Web Mail but how do you show and sort by TO: Address.

- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Bramble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail


  
I do pretty much the same thing, though I use Killer Web Mail for this
purpose.

I think you are talking about the list of messages, in which case you
might have to re-code your Web Mail templates to get that to work.  You
can though do things like add the weight to the subject and probably
even the To address using the SUBJECT functionality in your
Default.$Junkmail$ file.  I append the weight to the messages with
SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%] for a redundant fail weight test, and then sort by
subject since I never see FP's above a certain score.  This comes in
real handy for testing new filters.  The only drawback of course is that
all BCC data is lost when you block with Declude.

Matt


Frederick Samarelli wrote:


  Does anyone know of a way you can display the sender in the Web Mail for
IMAIL.

I am Routing email to a Web account and would like to display both the
  TO:
  

  and FROM:

Thanks.

Fred

  


Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Null Sender Spam for Valid Accounts

2003-10-16 Thread Roger Heath
Reply to: John Tolmachoff (Lists)
  Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Null Sender Spam for Valid Accounts on Thursday 11:15:50 
AM

This is what I was doing but Spam Review might have 2000-10,000 of
bounced mails... too much to do in deleting them...

--
Roger Heath
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.rleeheath.com


- Copy of Original Message(s): -

J> You could put in a temporary rule that holds or routes all message with a
J> blank or <> as sender, that way the end user will not see them, but you will
J> still be complying with the requirements.

J> John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
J> Engineer/Consultant
J> eServices For You
J> www.eservicesforyou.com

>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Heath
>> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 1:53 AM
>> To: R. Scott Perry
>> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Null Sender Spam for Valid Accounts
>> 
>> Looking  at  Scott's  response below, I'd like to have the Refuse Null
>> Sender  switch off, but we have a situation where spammers are forging
>> valid  e-mail  addresses.  We have thousands of bounces showing up for
>> messages   never   sent   from   valid  accounts  here.  For  example,
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  may  be  a  valid  account  but  he  is not a
>> spammer.  But  a  spammer  uses [EMAIL PROTECTED] forges tens of
>> thousands  of messages with this as the 'reply to' account in headers.
>> Since   the  spammer  has  many  unvalid  accounts  in  his  spamming,
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] is swamped with thousands of bounced mails for
>> mails  that  he did not even send... This is now happening to hundreds
>> of  accounts  here  because  it  looks  like the spammer's software is
>> randomly selecting them from a spam list.
>> 
>> I  have  re-enabled 'Refuse Null Senders' to relieve this problem, but
>> would like to find a more compliant solution. Does any one know how to
>> attack this issue in another way?
>> 
>> --
>> Roger Heath
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> www.rleeheath.com
>> 
>> R> Well,  the  real question is why do you think that you are safer by
>> R> rejecting  those  E-mails?  I'm not aware of any safety issues. The
>> R> only  issue  I  am  aware of is that a small percentage of spammers
>> R> send their spam that way.
>> R>
>> R> The  NULL  <>  sender  has  been  used for over 20 years for bounce
>> R> messages  and  other automated messages (such as vacation messages,
>> R> and  those  awful  spam  confirmation  E-mails, and Delivery Status
>> R> Notifications).
>> R>
>> R> So the choices are :
>> R>
>> R> [1] Comply (leave "Refuse NULL <> Senders" at the default UNchecked
>> R> setting). Pros: Your mailserver will act as expected. Cons: As very
>> R> small  percentage  of spam is sent this way, but it can be detected
>> R> using standard spam control.
>> R>
>> R> [2]  Refuse NULL <> senders. Pros: You'll have that "safe" feeling.
>> R> Cons:  You  won't  receive all your E-mail, because you're blocking
>> R> someofit,andbecauseyou'llgetlisted   at
>> R> http://www.rfc-ignorant.org .
>> R>
>> R> -Scott
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> ActivatorMail(tm) ver.01010031 Scanned for all viruses by
>> www.activatormail.com intelligent anti-virus anti-spam service
>> 
>> ---
>> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
J> (http://www.declude.com)]
>> 
>> ---
>> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
>> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
>> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
>> at http://www.mail-archive.com.

J> ---
J> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

J> ---
J> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
J> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
J> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
J> at http://www.mail-archive.com.
J> --
J> ActivatorMail(tm) ver.01010031 Scanned for all viruses by
J> www.activatormail.com intelligent anti-virus anti-spam service


--
ActivatorMail(tm) ver.01010031 Scanned for all viruses by 
www.activatormail.com intelligent anti-virus anti-spam service

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Test for nothing in the subject line?

2003-10-16 Thread James James
Thanks Andrew. I do have JunkMail Pro and I just set this up, but I hate
asking a list when I can look it up myself. Where did you find this?

Thanks,
James
- Original Message -
From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 2:32 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Test for nothing in the subject line?


> If you have JunkMail Pro, you can create a filter text file with a line
> like:
>
> SUBJECT 0 ISBLANK
>
> The weight, of course, is up to you.
>
> Andrew 8)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: James James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 2:04 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Test for nothing in the subject line?
>
>
> Greetings all
>
> I have some users who are starting to get spam with nothing in the subject
> and nothing in the body, save a single link to a picture on the internet.
Is
> there a test for nothing in subject? I already have the subjectchars test
> setup, but that only tests for subjects over a certian link. It would be
> nice to add a few points for an email that fails this.
>
> Thanks
> James James
> Help Desk/Systems Administration
> Lile International
> www.lile.net
>
> ---
> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
> (http://www.declude.com)]
>
> ---
> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
> at http://www.mail-archive.com.
> ---
> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]
>
> ---
> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
> at http://www.mail-archive.com.
>

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail

2003-10-16 Thread Matthew Bramble




Fred,

I took a look at it and here's what you do.

In the msgsum.html file search for the following string:

    

Replace that with:

       

If you have users that also access Killer Web Mail, they will see the
changes you make in the global file, so it is recommended that you set
up Killer Web Mail by copying the Web directory over to a particular
domain and then make the changes for that domain only (choose a domain
that no one is using WebMail on.

The default templates are typically located at the following address:

    C:\IMail\Web\

Copy those over to where you keep your E-mail by creating a sub
directory under the root for domain users.  The default location is
under the IMail directory, though you might have changed that:

    C:\IMail\some-domain.com\Web\

I verified this and it works on my machine.

Matt




Frederick Samarelli wrote:

  
  
  
  
  Thanks. Looked at the code. Beyond
me
  
-
Original Message - 
From:
Matthew
Bramble 
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent:
Thursday, October 16, 2003 4:36 PM
Subject:
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail


Fred, you can't by default.  If you are savvy with their code, you
could probably change the templates to list the To: address in place of
the From: address in their list interface (probably a matter of
changing a single variable in a single file), but be careful not to
apply the changes to a domain where others are using the Interface.

Jeff, Killer WebMail is an add-on product that is now offered by
Ipswitch:

    http://www.ipswitch.com/Products/IMail_Server/killer_web.html

Matt



Frederick Samarelli wrote:

  I use Killer Web Mail but how do you show and sort by TO: Address.

- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Bramble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail


  
  
I do pretty much the same thing, though I use Killer Web Mail for this
purpose.

I think you are talking about the list of messages, in which case you
might have to re-code your Web Mail templates to get that to work.  You
can though do things like add the weight to the subject and probably
even the To address using the SUBJECT functionality in your
Default.$Junkmail$ file.  I append the weight to the messages with
SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%] for a redundant fail weight test, and then sort by
subject since I never see FP's above a certain score.  This comes in
real handy for testing new filters.  The only drawback of course is that
all BCC data is lost when you block with Declude.

Matt


Frederick Samarelli wrote:



  Does anyone know of a way you can display the sender in the Web Mail for
IMAIL.

I am Routing email to a Web account and would like to display both the
  

  
  TO:
  
  

  and FROM:

Thanks.

Fred

  

  


  






RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Test for nothing in the subject line?

2003-10-16 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
If you have JunkMail Pro, you can create a filter text file with a line
like:

SUBJECT 0 ISBLANK

The weight, of course, is up to you.

Andrew 8)

-Original Message-
From: James James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 2:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Test for nothing in the subject line?


Greetings all

I have some users who are starting to get spam with nothing in the subject
and nothing in the body, save a single link to a picture on the internet. Is
there a test for nothing in subject? I already have the subjectchars test
setup, but that only tests for subjects over a certian link. It would be
nice to add a few points for an email that fails this.

Thanks
James James
Help Desk/Systems Administration
Lile International
www.lile.net

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.
---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail

2003-10-16 Thread Frederick Samarelli



Thanks. Looked at the code. Beyond 
me

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Matthew Bramble 

  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 4:36 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web 
  mail
  Fred, you can't by default.  If you are savvy with their 
  code, you could probably change the templates to list the To: address in place 
  of the From: address in their list interface (probably a matter of changing a 
  single variable in a single file), but be careful not to apply the changes to 
  a domain where others are using the Interface.Jeff, Killer WebMail is 
  an add-on product that is now offered by Ipswitch:    
  http://www.ipswitch.com/Products/IMail_Server/killer_web.htmlMattFrederick 
  Samarelli wrote:
  I use Killer Web Mail but how do you show and sort by TO: Address.

- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Bramble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail


  
I do pretty much the same thing, though I use Killer Web Mail for this
purpose.

I think you are talking about the list of messages, in which case you
might have to re-code your Web Mail templates to get that to work.  You
can though do things like add the weight to the subject and probably
even the To address using the SUBJECT functionality in your
Default.$Junkmail$ file.  I append the weight to the messages with
SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%] for a redundant fail weight test, and then sort by
subject since I never see FP's above a certain score.  This comes in
real handy for testing new filters.  The only drawback of course is that
all BCC data is lost when you block with Declude.

Matt


Frederick Samarelli wrote:


  Does anyone know of a way you can display the sender in the Web Mail for
IMAIL.

I am Routing email to a Web account and would like to display both the
  TO:
  

  and FROM:

Thanks.

Fred

  


[Declude.JunkMail] Test for nothing in the subject line?

2003-10-16 Thread James James
Greetings all

I have some users who are starting to get spam with nothing in the subject
and nothing in the body, save a single link to a picture on the internet. Is
there a test for nothing in subject? I already have the subjectchars test
setup, but that only tests for subjects over a certian link. It would be
nice to add a few points for an email that fails this.

Thanks
James James
Help Desk/Systems Administration
Lile International
www.lile.net

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail

2003-10-16 Thread Frederick Samarelli
http://www.ipswitch.com/Support/IMail/templates.html
- Original Message - 
From: "Jeff Maze - Hostmaster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 4:03 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail


Where do you get Kill Web Mail?  Does it come with iMail 8?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frederick Samarelli
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 3:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail


I use Killer Web Mail but how do you show and sort by TO: Address.

- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Bramble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail


> I do pretty much the same thing, though I use Killer Web Mail for this
> purpose.
>
> I think you are talking about the list of messages, in which case you
> might have to re-code your Web Mail templates to get that to work.
> You can though do things like add the weight to the subject and
> probably even the To address using the SUBJECT functionality in your
> Default.$Junkmail$ file.  I append the weight to the messages with
> SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%] for a redundant fail weight test, and then sort by
> subject since I never see FP's above a certain score.  This comes in
> real handy for testing new filters.  The only drawback of course is
> that all BCC data is lost when you block with Declude.
>
> Matt
>
>
> Frederick Samarelli wrote:
>
> >Does anyone know of a way you can display the sender in the Web Mail
> >for IMAIL.
> >
> >I am Routing email to a Web account and would like to display both
> >the
TO:
> >and FROM:
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >Fred
> >
> >---
> >[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]
> >
> >---
> >This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
> >unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type
> >"unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found at
> >http://www.mail-archive.com.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> ===
> Matthew S. Bramble
> President and Technical Coordinator
> iGaia Incorporated, Operator of NYcars.com
> ---
> Office Phone: (518) 862-9042
> Cellular: (518) 229-3375
> Fax: (518) 862-9044
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ===
>
>
> ---
> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]
>
> ---
> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type
> "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found at
> http://www.mail-archive.com.
>

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To unsubscribe,
just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe
Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found at
http://www.mail-archive.com.



---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail

2003-10-16 Thread Matthew Bramble




Fred, you can't by default.  If you are savvy with their code, you
could probably change the templates to list the To: address in place of
the From: address in their list interface (probably a matter of
changing a single variable in a single file), but be careful not to
apply the changes to a domain where others are using the Interface.

Jeff, Killer WebMail is an add-on product that is now offered by
Ipswitch:

    http://www.ipswitch.com/Products/IMail_Server/killer_web.html

Matt



Frederick Samarelli wrote:

  I use Killer Web Mail but how do you show and sort by TO: Address.

- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Bramble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail


  
  
I do pretty much the same thing, though I use Killer Web Mail for this
purpose.

I think you are talking about the list of messages, in which case you
might have to re-code your Web Mail templates to get that to work.  You
can though do things like add the weight to the subject and probably
even the To address using the SUBJECT functionality in your
Default.$Junkmail$ file.  I append the weight to the messages with
SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%] for a redundant fail weight test, and then sort by
subject since I never see FP's above a certain score.  This comes in
real handy for testing new filters.  The only drawback of course is that
all BCC data is lost when you block with Declude.

Matt


Frederick Samarelli wrote:



  Does anyone know of a way you can display the sender in the Web Mail for
IMAIL.

I am Routing email to a Web account and would like to display both the
  

  
  TO:
  
  

  and FROM:

Thanks.

Fred

  

  






Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Unknown Weight Assssignment

2003-10-16 Thread R. Scott Perry

My log file shows the test nHELOBOGUS with a weight of 2, but nHELOBOGUS 
doesn't appear in either the global or junkmail files.

10/16/2003 00:00:08 Q25d7164f0020f12d SPAMCOP:8 EASYNET-DNSBL:8 
nHELOBOGUS:2 SNIFFER:7 .  Total weight = 25
The "n" means "negative".  You have the HELOBOGUS test set to have a 
negative weight of 2, so that E-mail that does *not* fail the HELOBOGUS 
test has a weight of 2 added to it.

   -Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers.
Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver 
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Unknown Weight Assssignment

2003-10-16 Thread Wesley M
My log file shows the test nHELOBOGUS with a weight of 2, but nHELOBOGUS 
doesn't appear in either the global or junkmail files.  The test HELOBOGUS 
is in both the log and the global or junkmail files. What is nHELOBOGUS and 
where could it be coming from? Example of log below:

10/16/2003 00:00:08 Q25d7164f0020f12d SPAMCOP:8 EASYNET-DNSBL:8 
nHELOBOGUS:2 SNIFFER:7 .  Total weight = 25
10/16/2003 00:00:08 Q25d7164f0020f12d Msg failed SPAMCOP (Blocked - see 
http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?63.87.243.230). Action=WARN.
10/16/2003 00:00:08 Q25d7164f0020f12d Msg failed EASYNET-DNSBL (Blacklisted 
by easynet.nl DNSBL - http://blackholes.easynet.nl/errors.html). Action=WARN.
10/16/2003 00:00:08 Q25d7164f0020f12d Msg failed SNIFFER (Message failed 
SNIFFER: 57.). Action=WARN.
10/16/2003 00:00:08 Q25d7164f0020f12d Msg failed WEIGHT5 (Weight of 25 
reaches or exceeds the limit of 5.). Action=WARN.
10/16/2003 00:00:08 Q25d7164f0020f12d Msg failed WEIGHT8 (Weight of 25 
reaches or exceeds the limit of 8.). Action=WARN.
10/16/2003 00:00:08 Q25d7164f0020f12d Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Weight of 25 
reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.). Action=DELETE.
10/16/2003 00:00:08 Q25d7164f0020f12d Msg failed WEIGHT20 (Weight of 25 
reaches or exceeds the limit of 20.). Action=WARN.
10/16/2003 00:00:08 Q25d7164f0020f12d Deleting spam from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
10/16/2003 00:00:08 Q25d7164f0020f12d Subject: I made $250K, Using OTHER 
People's Money
10/16/2003 00:00:08 Q25d7164f0020f12d From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 63.87.243.230 ID:
10/16/2003 00:00:08 Q25d730df0032f2e2 NOABUSE:2 NOPOSTMASTER:1 BASE64:4 
HELOBOGUS:4 SPAMHEADERS:4 SNIFFER:7 .  Total weight = 22
10/16/2003 00:00:08 Q25d730df0032f2e2 Msg failed NOABUSE (Not supporting 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]). Action=WARN.
10/16/2003 00:00:08 Q25d730df0032f2e2 Msg failed NOPOSTMASTER (Not 
supporting [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Action=WARN.
10/16/2003 00:00:08 Q25d730df0032f2e2 Msg failed BASE64 (A binary encoded 
text or HTML section was found in this E-mail.). Action=WARN.
10/16/2003 00:00:08 Q25d730df0032f2e2 Msg failed HELOBOGUS (Domain D89TF911 
returns a server failure for MX or A records.). Action=WARN.
10/16/2003 00:00:08 Q25d730df0032f2e2 Msg failed SPAMHEADERS (This E-mail 
has headers consistent with spam [420e].). Action=WARN.
10/16/2003 00:00:08 Q25d730df0032f2e2 Msg failed SNIFFER (Message failed 
SNIFFER: 52.). Action=WARN.
10/16/2003 00:00:08 Q25d730df0032f2e2 Msg failed WEIGHT5 (Weight of 22 
reaches or exceeds the limit of 5.). Action=WARN.
10/16/2003 00:00:08 Q25d730df0032f2e2 Msg failed WEIGHT8 (Weight of 22 
reaches or exceeds the limit of 8.). Action=WARN.
10/16/2003 00:00:08 Q25d730df0032f2e2 Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Weight of 22 
reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.). Action=DELETE.
10/16/2003 00:00:08 Q25d730df0032f2e2 Msg failed WEIGHT20 (Weight of 22 
reaches or exceeds the limit of 20.). Action=WARN.
10/16/2003 00:00:08 Q25d730df0032f2e2 Deleting spam from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
10/16/2003 00:00:08 Q25d730df0032f2e2 Subject: Mortage is still at a all 
time low get Get approved today rates as low as 4.7 ..,.

At 03:50 PM 10/15/2003 -0700, you wrote:
X-RBL-Warning: SNIFFER: Message failed SNIFFER: 62.

The above is not the Sniffer weight, it the Sniffer category that the test
failed (see
http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/ResultCodesHelp.html).  If
you look in your log file, you will be able to see the actual weight
applied.
Bill
- Original Message -
From: "Wesley M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:42 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Unknown Weight Aignment
> I have awarded the sniffer test a weight of 5, but I'm not sure were the
> higher weights are coming from.  The global.cfg file shows only a weight
of
> 5 for sniffer, and I don't have special user settings on my account. It
> doesn't appear like any other tests are failing based on the header of the
> message(other than the weight tests).  Any ideas where the weight of nine
> is coming from?
>
> == header of message ==
>
> Received: from paris2.webpipe.net [63.172.126.12] by imail.stic.net with
ESMTP
> (SMTPD32-8.03) id AC7927330052; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:30:33 -0500
> Received: from vinzenz.de ([212.70.36.2])
> by paris2.webpipe.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14215;
> Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:50:47 -0400
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From: "STephanie Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: TRZA ag Stock OTCBB highest volume trader19057
> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:51:10 -1900
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="Windows-1252"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> X-RBL-Warning: SNIFFER: Message failed SNIFFER: 62.
> X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT5: Weight of 9 reaches o

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail

2003-10-16 Thread Jeff Maze - Hostmaster
Where do you get Kill Web Mail?  Does it come with iMail 8?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frederick Samarelli
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 3:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail


I use Killer Web Mail but how do you show and sort by TO: Address.

- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Bramble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail


> I do pretty much the same thing, though I use Killer Web Mail for this 
> purpose.
>
> I think you are talking about the list of messages, in which case you 
> might have to re-code your Web Mail templates to get that to work.  
> You can though do things like add the weight to the subject and 
> probably even the To address using the SUBJECT functionality in your 
> Default.$Junkmail$ file.  I append the weight to the messages with 
> SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%] for a redundant fail weight test, and then sort by 
> subject since I never see FP's above a certain score.  This comes in 
> real handy for testing new filters.  The only drawback of course is 
> that all BCC data is lost when you block with Declude.
>
> Matt
>
>
> Frederick Samarelli wrote:
>
> >Does anyone know of a way you can display the sender in the Web Mail 
> >for IMAIL.
> >
> >I am Routing email to a Web account and would like to display both 
> >the
TO:
> >and FROM:
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >Fred
> >
> >---
> >[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]
> >
> >---
> >This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To 
> >unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type 
> >"unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found at 
> >http://www.mail-archive.com.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> ===
> Matthew S. Bramble
> President and Technical Coordinator
> iGaia Incorporated, Operator of NYcars.com
> ---
> Office Phone: (518) 862-9042
> Cellular: (518) 229-3375
> Fax: (518) 862-9044
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ===
>
>
> ---
> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]
>
> ---
> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To 
> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type 
> "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found at 
> http://www.mail-archive.com.
>

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To unsubscribe,
just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe
Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found at
http://www.mail-archive.com.



---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail

2003-10-16 Thread Frederick Samarelli
I use Killer Web Mail but how do you show and sort by TO: Address.

- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Bramble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail


> I do pretty much the same thing, though I use Killer Web Mail for this
> purpose.
>
> I think you are talking about the list of messages, in which case you
> might have to re-code your Web Mail templates to get that to work.  You
> can though do things like add the weight to the subject and probably
> even the To address using the SUBJECT functionality in your
> Default.$Junkmail$ file.  I append the weight to the messages with
> SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%] for a redundant fail weight test, and then sort by
> subject since I never see FP's above a certain score.  This comes in
> real handy for testing new filters.  The only drawback of course is that
> all BCC data is lost when you block with Declude.
>
> Matt
>
>
> Frederick Samarelli wrote:
>
> >Does anyone know of a way you can display the sender in the Web Mail for
> >IMAIL.
> >
> >I am Routing email to a Web account and would like to display both the
TO:
> >and FROM:
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >Fred
> >
> >---
> >[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]
> >
> >---
> >This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
> >unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
> >type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
> >at http://www.mail-archive.com.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> -- 
> ===
> Matthew S. Bramble
> President and Technical Coordinator
> iGaia Incorporated, Operator of NYcars.com
> ---
> Office Phone: (518) 862-9042
> Cellular: (518) 229-3375
> Fax: (518) 862-9044
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ===
>
>
> ---
> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]
>
> ---
> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
> at http://www.mail-archive.com.
>

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAM DOMAINS

2003-10-16 Thread Dan Geiser
Hello, Darrell,
It depends on the FQDN (Fullly Qualified Domain Name) that you extracted
mac.com from.  For example, if legit e-mail sometimes uses either @mac.com
or @.mac.com you could add two entries to your Spam Domain text
file...

@mac.com apple.com
.mac.com apple.com

Later,
Dan Geiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message - 
From: "Darrell LaRock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 1:34 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAM DOMAINS


> We have a listing in our spam domains file
> mac.com apple.com
>
> this line seems to be tripping off on the following
> X-RBL-Warning: SPAMDOMAINS: Spamdomain 'mac.com' found: Address of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent from invalid [No Reverse DNS].
>
> How do I prevent the "mac.com" spam domain entry from picking up on for
> example freediemac.com?
>
> Thanks
> Darrell
>
>
> ---
> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]
>
> ---
> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
> at http://www.mail-archive.com.
> ---
> Sign up for virus-free and spam-free e-mail with Nexus Technology Group
> http://www.nexustechgroup.com/mailscan
>
>

---
Sign up for virus-free and spam-free e-mail with Nexus Technology Group 
http://www.nexustechgroup.com/mailscan

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam Filtering on Store and Forward Domains

2003-10-16 Thread R. Scott Perry

If I use Declude JunkMail to do Spam Filtering on a domain name, e.g.
acme.com, that I am doing IMail Store and Forward
(http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-19980116-DM01.htm) for can I exert
control over the per-domain spam filtering by creating an acme.com directory
(with associated $default$.junkmail in that directory) underneath the
\imail\declude\ directory as I do with all of my other domains which are
local (aren't Store and Forward)?
Yes, you can.

Assuming the answer is yes, if I don't create the acme.com directory is
global.cfg used to control the spam filtering for Store and Forward domains?
Correct.

   -Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers.
Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver 
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


[Declude.JunkMail] Spam Filtering on Store and Forward Domains

2003-10-16 Thread Dan Geiser
Hello, All,
If I use Declude JunkMail to do Spam Filtering on a domain name, e.g.
acme.com, that I am doing IMail Store and Forward
(http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-19980116-DM01.htm) for can I exert
control over the per-domain spam filtering by creating an acme.com directory
(with associated $default$.junkmail in that directory) underneath the
\imail\declude\ directory as I do with all of my other domains which are
local (aren't Store and Forward)?

Assuming the answer is yes, if I don't create the acme.com directory is
global.cfg used to control the spam filtering for Store and Forward domains?

Thanks In Advance,
Dan Geiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

---
Sign up for virus-free and spam-free e-mail with Nexus Technology Group 
http://www.nexustechgroup.com/mailscan

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail

2003-10-16 Thread Matthew Bramble
I do pretty much the same thing, though I use Killer Web Mail for this 
purpose.

I think you are talking about the list of messages, in which case you 
might have to re-code your Web Mail templates to get that to work.  You 
can though do things like add the weight to the subject and probably 
even the To address using the SUBJECT functionality in your 
Default.$Junkmail$ file.  I append the weight to the messages with 
SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%] for a redundant fail weight test, and then sort by 
subject since I never see FP's above a certain score.  This comes in 
real handy for testing new filters.  The only drawback of course is that 
all BCC data is lost when you block with Declude.

Matt

Frederick Samarelli wrote:

Does anyone know of a way you can display the sender in the Web Mail for
IMAIL.
I am Routing email to a Web account and would like to display both the TO:
and FROM:
Thanks.

Fred

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.
 

--
===
Matthew S. Bramble
President and Technical Coordinator
iGaia Incorporated, Operator of NYcars.com
---
Office Phone: (518) 862-9042
Cellular: (518) 229-3375
Fax: (518) 862-9044
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
===
---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Selective queue delete based on string?

2003-10-16 Thread Dan Cummings
Thanks Scott and others - this approach did the trick.


-- Original Message --
From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:15:24 -0400

>
>>As a follow up to my previous issue with overflowing overflow, bad luck 
>>continues today with a mail bomb consisting of the Nigerian scam to a 
>>specific user...38,000 copies give or take a few.  So, a lesson in mail 
>>bomb recovery...
>>
>>Hence my question, is there a decent utility or script to selectively 
>>remove from the queue based on specific text in the message?
>>
>>I can identify the messages using any number of text search utilities, but 
>>I am hesitant to just delete them knowing that there is a corresponding 
>>message in the overflow queueis it a matter of just getting the 
>>messageID's into a file and then zapping them from the /imail/spool and 
>>the /imail/spool/overflow in pairs?
>
>That would work.  What I would recommend is moving the files to another 
>directory, where you can search them again to make sure that none were 
>accidentally caught.
>
>I'm not aware of any utilities that can do this automatically, 
>however.  It's about time someone writes such a utility for IMail though.
>
>-Scott
>---
>Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers.
>Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver 
>vulnerability detection.
>Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation.
>
>---
>[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
>
>---
>This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
>unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
>type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
>at http://www.mail-archive.com.
>
 
 
---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


[Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Web mail

2003-10-16 Thread Frederick Samarelli
Does anyone know of a way you can display the sender in the Web Mail for
IMAIL.

I am Routing email to a Web account and would like to display both the TO:
and FROM:

Thanks.

Fred

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAM DOMAINS

2003-10-16 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - 
From: "Darrell LaRock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> We have a listing in our spam domains file
> mac.com apple.com
>
> this line seems to be tripping off on the following
> X-RBL-Warning: SPAMDOMAINS: Spamdomain 'mac.com' found: Address of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent from invalid [No Reverse DNS].
>
> How do I prevent the "mac.com" spam domain entry from picking up on for
> example freediemac.com?

Try using:  "@mac.com apple.com" (without the quote make, of course) in your
spamdomains file.  The "@" sign will delimit the from address to those that
are only from @mac.com.

Bill

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Mail server slow on delivering messages and spool is building and spool is building

2003-10-16 Thread R. Scott Perry

I have seen messages in the last couple of day on this list and the
IMail list about the spool directory filling and showing an overflow
directory.   I have in the last 4 days seem the spool fill to 68,000 message
with the overflow having a like number of Qxxx-xxx.smd files.I see some
mail come into the server and delivered to the mailbox quickly,  I see mail
delayed by an hour and some delayed by many hours. I have checked the
logs both Imail and Declude   I do not see and problems.
So an E-mail that is delayed by many hours has entries in the IMail and 
Declude log files that are at the same time (IE log file entries are at 
09:54 and 09:55, but the E-mail was delivered at 11:35)?

This started on the 13 th There is 39,000 messages form that 
day.  14,000 form the 14th
and about 14,000 from the 15th  and 3,000 from today most of them came in
the last hour.
Were there any major changes made that day (upgrades, for example)?

Is your primary DNS server working?  Is your mail volume much higher now 
than it was before the 13th?

My question is why if the queue timer is set to 30 Mins with 20 attempts
which is 10 hours why are the so many messages fro the 13th still in the
spool and over flow directory.
Because the queue timer is designed to determine how often E-mails will be 
retried after the first attempt.  If it takes IMail 2 hours to try an 
E-mail for the first time, it isn't going to be able to try it 30 minutes 
after it was received.

   -Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers.
Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver 
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter question

2003-10-16 Thread Sharyn Schmidt

So now I would ask what the source of the E-mail shows?


This particular one, came in plain text, I just realized. That is
probably why I didn't use the source to begin with.

When I right click on it, view source is greyed out.

I would be happy to forward the email to the list but I did that earlier
and I'm thinking everyone's filter blocked it but mine.

Sharyn




We are the worldwide producer and marketer of the award winning Cruzan
Single Barrel Rum, judged "Best in the World" at the annual
San Francisco Wine and Spirits Championships. For
more information, please click (go to) http://www.cruzanrums.com";>www.cruzanrums.com
---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


[Declude.JunkMail] SPAM DOMAINS

2003-10-16 Thread Darrell LaRock
We have a listing in our spam domains file 
mac.com apple.com

this line seems to be tripping off on the following
X-RBL-Warning: SPAMDOMAINS: Spamdomain 'mac.com' found: Address of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] sent from invalid [No Reverse DNS].

How do I prevent the "mac.com" spam domain entry from picking up on for
example freediemac.com?

Thanks
Darrell


---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Dial-ups

2003-10-16 Thread R. Scott Perry

Scott, can you clarify something about the "DUL" and "DYNA" fragments in the
test name?
I've got an "ipfile" test that I'd like to only run against the first IP, so
I renamed it YADDA-DYNA but it is still running against my full hop count.
Does the nifty "DUL" and "DYNA" name hop restriction only work for "ip4r"
tests?
Sorry, they only work for the ip4r tests.

The ipfile test types only work with the IP of the remote mailserver (the 
first IP that isn't bypassed with the IPBYPASS or HOP settings).

   -Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers.
Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver 
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter question

2003-10-16 Thread R. Scott Perry

I cut and pasted it from what I was viewing in the email, NOT from the
source, hence my original question. I did go back and run the -diag and
I am definitely running JM 1.75
So now I would ask what the source of the E-mail shows?

   -Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers.
Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver 
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Dial-ups

2003-10-16 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Scott, can you clarify something about the "DUL" and "DYNA" fragments in the
test name?

I've got an "ipfile" test that I'd like to only run against the first IP, so
I renamed it YADDA-DYNA but it is still running against my full hop count.
Does the nifty "DUL" and "DYNA" name hop restriction only work for "ip4r"
tests?

Andrew 8)

-Original Message-
From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 10:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Dial-ups



>With regard to the headers below, 68.116.154.119 should not be
>considered by the dial-ups test, correct?  It is failing, however.
>Do I have a config issue?
>
>
>DIALUPS ip4rdialups.visi.com

The problem is that Declude JunkMail doesn't know that "DIALUPS" is a test 
that should only be checked against the first IP.  The test name needs to 
have "DUL" or "DYNA" in it in order for Declude JunkMail to only run the 
test on the first IP.

-Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers.
Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver 
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.
---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Null Sender Spam for Valid Accounts

2003-10-16 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
You could put in a temporary rule that holds or routes all message with a
blank or <> as sender, that way the end user will not see them, but you will
still be complying with the requirements.

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
www.eservicesforyou.com

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Heath
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 1:53 AM
> To: R. Scott Perry
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Null Sender Spam for Valid Accounts
> 
> Looking  at  Scott's  response below, I'd like to have the Refuse Null
> Sender  switch off, but we have a situation where spammers are forging
> valid  e-mail  addresses.  We have thousands of bounces showing up for
> messages   never   sent   from   valid  accounts  here.  For  example,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  may  be  a  valid  account  but  he  is not a
> spammer.  But  a  spammer  uses [EMAIL PROTECTED] forges tens of
> thousands  of messages with this as the 'reply to' account in headers.
> Since   the  spammer  has  many  unvalid  accounts  in  his  spamming,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] is swamped with thousands of bounced mails for
> mails  that  he did not even send... This is now happening to hundreds
> of  accounts  here  because  it  looks  like the spammer's software is
> randomly selecting them from a spam list.
> 
> I  have  re-enabled 'Refuse Null Senders' to relieve this problem, but
> would like to find a more compliant solution. Does any one know how to
> attack this issue in another way?
> 
> --
> Roger Heath
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.rleeheath.com
> 
> R> Well,  the  real question is why do you think that you are safer by
> R> rejecting  those  E-mails?  I'm not aware of any safety issues. The
> R> only  issue  I  am  aware of is that a small percentage of spammers
> R> send their spam that way.
> R>
> R> The  NULL  <>  sender  has  been  used for over 20 years for bounce
> R> messages  and  other automated messages (such as vacation messages,
> R> and  those  awful  spam  confirmation  E-mails, and Delivery Status
> R> Notifications).
> R>
> R> So the choices are :
> R>
> R> [1] Comply (leave "Refuse NULL <> Senders" at the default UNchecked
> R> setting). Pros: Your mailserver will act as expected. Cons: As very
> R> small  percentage  of spam is sent this way, but it can be detected
> R> using standard spam control.
> R>
> R> [2]  Refuse NULL <> senders. Pros: You'll have that "safe" feeling.
> R> Cons:  You  won't  receive all your E-mail, because you're blocking
> R> someofit,andbecauseyou'llgetlisted   at
> R> http://www.rfc-ignorant.org .
> R>
> R> -Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> ActivatorMail(tm) ver.01010031 Scanned for all viruses by
> www.activatormail.com intelligent anti-virus anti-spam service
> 
> ---
> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]
> 
> ---
> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
> at http://www.mail-archive.com.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter question

2003-10-16 Thread Sharyn Schmidt

Those do look the same.  Did you cut and paste it from what you were 
viewing in the E-mail, or from the source?

I cut and pasted it from what I was viewing in the email, NOT from the
source, hence my original question. I did go back and run the -diag and
I am definitely running JM 1.75

Sharyn




We are the worldwide producer and marketer of the award winning Cruzan
Single Barrel Rum, judged "Best in the World" at the annual
San Francisco Wine and Spirits Championships. For
more information, please click (go to) http://www.cruzanrums.com";>www.cruzanrums.com
---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Selective queue delete based on string?

2003-10-16 Thread Dan Cummings
That's great, thanks...I appreciate a little humor in the midst of my spam-induced 
grief ;) 


-- Original Message --
From: "Sean Fahey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:34:01 -0500

>Oh, well then you need to visit this site:
>
>http://j-walk.com/other/conf/index.htm
>
>
>-Original Message-
>On Behalf Of Dan Cummings
>Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Selective queue delete based on string?
>
>
>As a follow up to my previous issue with overflowing overflow, bad luck
>continues today with a mail bomb consisting of the Nigerian scam to a
>specific user...38,000 copies give or take a few.  So, a lesson in mail bomb
>recovery...
>
>---
>[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
>
>---
>This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
>unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
>type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
>at http://www.mail-archive.com.
>
 
 
---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter question

2003-10-16 Thread R. Scott Perry

Here are the message headers:

X-Spam-Tests-Failed: ROUTING
OK, it did not fail the INBODYFILTER test.

Here is the line in the filter itself:

BODY 0 CONTAINS Bachelors and other higher education available in your
fields
And here is the line, copied and pasted directly from the spam email
that should've triggered the filter and didn't:
Bachelors and other higher education available in your fields
Those do look the same.  Did you cut and paste it from what you were 
viewing in the E-mail, or from the source?

   -Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers.
Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver 
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Outlook 2003 file attachments

2003-10-16 Thread William Baumbach
I took a quick look and here are the extensions I added from the list below
that were not in my original list from Outlook 2002

These seem to be new in Outlook 2003

.app Microsoft FoxPro-generated application
.csh Unix shell script
.fxp Microsoft FoxProR file
.ksh Unix shell script
.mda Microsoft Access add-in program

.mdt Microsoft Access file
.mdw Microsoft Access file
.mdz Microsoft Access wizard program
.ops FoxPro file
.prg FoxPro program source file
.xsl XML file that can contain script


Sincerely,

William J. Baumbach II  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
9975 Pennsylvania Ave. Manassas, Va. 20110-2028
Ph: 703-367-7900 ext:1708 Fax: 703-691-0946
-

- Original Message - 
From: "Markus Gufler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 3:54 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Outlook 2003 file attachments


This is the list of file extensions that are configured in Outlook 2003 as
Level1 (means: file can not be opened or saved to disk)
Maybe someone can compare it with his current BANEXT list and add some "new"
extensions.

.ade Microsoft Access project extension
.adp Microsoft Access project
.app Microsoft FoxPro-generated application
.bas Microsoft Visual BasicR class module
.bat Batch file
.chm Compiled HTML Help file
.cmd Microsoft Windows NTR command script
.com Microsoft MS-DOSR program
.cpl Control Panel extension
.crt Security certificate
.csh Unix shell script
.exe Executable file or program
.fxp Microsoft FoxProR file
.hlp Help file
.hta HTML program
.inf Setup information
.ins Internet naming service
.isp Internet communication settings
.js JscriptR file
.jse Jscript-encoded script file
.ksh Unix shell script
.lnk Shortcut
.mda Microsoft Access add-in program
.mdb Microsoft Access program
.mde Microsoft Access MDE database
.mdt Microsoft Access file
.mdw Microsoft Access file
.mdz Microsoft Access wizard program
.msc Microsoft Common Console document
.msi Windows Installer package
.msp Windows Installer patch
.mst Visual Test source files
.ops FoxPro file
.pcd Photo CD image or Microsoft Visual Test compiled script
.pif Shortcut to MS-DOS program
.prf Microsoft Outlook Profile Settings
.prg FoxPro program source file
.reg Registration entries
.scf Windows Explorer Command file
.scr Screen saver
.sct WindowsR script component
.shb Shortcut into a document
.shs Shell scrap object
.url Internet shortcut
.vb VBScript file
.vbe VBScript-encoded script file
.vbs VBScript file
.wsc Windows script component
.wsf Windows script file
.wsh Windows script host settings file
.xsl XML file that can contain script

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.

[ scanned for spam to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] incoming
http://www.DcMetroNet.com on 10/15/2003 at 16:01:19-0500et. ]

[ scanned for viruses to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] incoming
http://www.DcMetroNet.com on 10/15/2003 at 16:01:22-0500et. ]




[ scanned for spam to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] outgoing http://www.DcMetroNet.com on 
10/16/2003 at 12:12:56-0500et. ]

This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain 
confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or 
distribution of this email is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, 
please contact the sender and destroy all paper and electronic copies of this message.

[ scanned for viruses to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] outgoing http://www.DcMetroNet.com on 
10/16/2003 at 12:12:59-0500et. ]


---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


[Declude.JunkMail] Mail server slow on delivering messages and spool is building

2003-10-16 Thread Lenny Bauman
Hello List,

I have seen messages in the last couple of day on this list and the
IMail list about the spool directory filling and showing an overflow
directory.   I have in the last 4 days seem the spool fill to 68,000 message
with the overflow having a like number of Qxxx-xxx.smd files.I see some
mail come into the server and delivered to the mailbox quickly,  I see mail
delayed by an hour and some delayed by many hours. I have checked the
logs both Imail and Declude   I do not see and problems.  This started on
the 13 th There is 39,000 messages form that day.  14,000 form the 14th
and about 14,000 from the 15th  and 3,000 from today most of them came in
the last hour.

My question is why if the queue timer is set to 30 Mins with 20 attempts
which is 10 hours why are the so many messages fro the 13th still in the
spool and over flow directory.

Is the a way to tell what attempt number a message is onI can not load
view que from Email admin to look

Any help will be greatly appreciated.




Lenny Bauman
LRBCG.COM, Inc.
Phone 419-621-5770
Toll Free 1-800-NET-ACCESS (638-2223)
E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]


---
[This E-mail scanned for viruses by LRBCG.COM, Inc.]

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Selective queue delete based on string?

2003-10-16 Thread R. Scott Perry

As a follow up to my previous issue with overflowing overflow, bad luck 
continues today with a mail bomb consisting of the Nigerian scam to a 
specific user...38,000 copies give or take a few.  So, a lesson in mail 
bomb recovery...

Hence my question, is there a decent utility or script to selectively 
remove from the queue based on specific text in the message?

I can identify the messages using any number of text search utilities, but 
I am hesitant to just delete them knowing that there is a corresponding 
message in the overflow queueis it a matter of just getting the 
messageID's into a file and then zapping them from the /imail/spool and 
the /imail/spool/overflow in pairs?
That would work.  What I would recommend is moving the files to another 
directory, where you can search them again to make sure that none were 
accidentally caught.

I'm not aware of any utilities that can do this automatically, 
however.  It's about time someone writes such a utility for IMail though.

   -Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers.
Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver 
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Selective queue delete based on string?

2003-10-16 Thread Dan Cummings
Here's a follow up, please critique!

This seems like it could do the trick...performing findstr in the 
/imail/spool/overflow directory (or the spool directory depending)

findstr /m somestringhere *.smd > kill.txt

and then manipulating kill.txt into a batch file using ultraedit or the like to insert 
'del' before Q.SMD (for the overflow directory) and del D.SMD 
(for the corresponding files in the spool directory) and then running each in their 
respective directories?  Klunky, yes, but I'm tired...seems like it should work 
OK...yes?

Thanks!
-- Original Message --
From: "Sean Fahey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:34:01 -0500

>Oh, well then you need to visit this site:
>
>http://j-walk.com/other/conf/index.htm
>
>
>-Original Message-
>On Behalf Of Dan Cummings
>Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Selective queue delete based on string?
>
>
>As a follow up to my previous issue with overflowing overflow, bad luck
>continues today with a mail bomb consisting of the Nigerian scam to a
>specific user...38,000 copies give or take a few.  So, a lesson in mail bomb
>recovery...
>
>---
>[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
>
>---
>This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
>unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
>type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
>at http://www.mail-archive.com.
>
 
 
---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Mail server slow on delivering messages an d spool is building d spool is building

2003-10-16 Thread Daniel Ivey
Lenny,

I had a similar problem about a month or so ago.  I found the
resolution to be a combination of a fragmented paging file on the server and
the use of DNSILLEGAL, DNSMAILLIST, DNSPROMO, and DNSUCE in the decluce
junkmail test.  I defragged the paging file and took those test out and
everything has been working fine since.

Daniel

==
Daniel Ivey
GCR Company / GCR Online
Voice:  434 - 570 - 1765
Fax: 434 - 572 - 1981
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Lenny Bauman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:57 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Mail server slow on delivering messages and
spool is building

Hello List,

I have seen messages in the last couple of day on this list and the
IMail list about the spool directory filling and showing an overflow
directory.   I have in the last 4 days seem the spool fill to 68,000 message
with the overflow having a like number of Qxxx-xxx.smd files.I see some
mail come into the server and delivered to the mailbox quickly,  I see mail
delayed by an hour and some delayed by many hours. I have checked the
logs both Imail and Declude   I do not see and problems.  This started on
the 13 th There is 39,000 messages form that day.  14,000 form the 14th
and about 14,000 from the 15th  and 3,000 from today most of them came in
the last hour.

My question is why if the queue timer is set to 30 Mins with 20 attempts
which is 10 hours why are the so many messages fro the 13th still in the
spool and over flow directory.

Is the a way to tell what attempt number a message is onI can not load
view que from Email admin to look

Any help will be greatly appreciated.




Lenny Bauman
LRBCG.COM, Inc.
Phone 419-621-5770
Toll Free 1-800-NET-ACCESS (638-2223)
E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]


---
[This E-mail scanned for viruses by LRBCG.COM, Inc.]

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.
---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Versioning of interim releases

2003-10-16 Thread William Baumbach
The way I keep track of what version is to add to the header of all incoming
and outgoing emails the version using a Declude variable

In the GLOBAL.CFG file I have added these two lines

XINHEADER X-In-Note: This E-mail was comming into %LOCALHOST% Declude
ver.%VERSION%.

XOUTHEADER X-Out-Note: This E-mail was going out of %LOCALHOST% Declude
ver.%VERSION%.

the two lines above lets me easily see the exact version of Declude and the
domain name the email passed through

to see what i am talking about just read the headder of this email


Sincerely,

William J. Baumbach II  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
9975 Pennsylvania Ave. Manassas, Va. 20110-2028
Ph: 703-367-7900 ext:1708 Fax: 703-691-0946
-

- Original Message - 
From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Versioning of interim releases



>A simple question or two (I hope) regarding release versions.
>
>A previous thread referred to release version 1.76i4 and 1.76i6. Also a
>reply from Scott provided a link to download a different interim release
>(1.76i7).
>
>How would I find out what specific interim release version I am running? I
>ran declude.exe -diag and it only showed 176 as the version.
>
>Am I missing something?

You're not missing anything (except the latest interim release).

A released version or beta version will normally be in the format #.##
(such as "1.75" or "1.76").  In some cases, they will have an "a" or "b"
after them (for example, if we need to make a change immediately after a
new beta version is posted online, we may add the "a" or "b", in case
anyone downloaded the one without the change).  The interim releases always
are in the format "#.##i#" or "#.##i##" (the "i" indicating an interim
release).

So 1.76 is either a beta or released version (
http://www.declude.com/relnotes.htm shows that it is a beta).  1.76i6 is an
interim release.

>Also, is there a revision history document related to interim releases
>available on-line?

No.  Interim releases are designed to quickly get fixes and new features to
the customers who need them.  There are obvious advantages to that, but it
comes with a price.  In order to quickly come out with an interim release,
we don't have a list of changes online, and we may require you to go back
to a previous version if there are problems.  We could change that, but
then we would be back to beta versions, which take more time to release.

-Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers.
Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.

[ scanned for spam to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] incoming
http://www.DcMetroNet.com on 10/15/2003 at 13:56:32-0500et. ]

[ scanned for viruses to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] incoming
http://www.DcMetroNet.com on 10/15/2003 at 13:56:36-0500et. ]




[ scanned for spam to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] outgoing http://www.DcMetroNet.com on 
10/16/2003 at 11:51:27-0500et. ]

This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain 
confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or 
distribution of this email is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, 
please contact the sender and destroy all paper and electronic copies of this message.

[ scanned for viruses to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] outgoing http://www.DcMetroNet.com on 
10/16/2003 at 11:51:30-0500et. ]


---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Selective queue delete based on string?

2003-10-16 Thread Sean Fahey
Oh, well then you need to visit this site:

http://j-walk.com/other/conf/index.htm


-Original Message-
On Behalf Of Dan Cummings
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Selective queue delete based on string?


As a follow up to my previous issue with overflowing overflow, bad luck
continues today with a mail bomb consisting of the Nigerian scam to a
specific user...38,000 copies give or take a few.  So, a lesson in mail bomb
recovery...

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter question

2003-10-16 Thread Sharyn Schmidt

Remember that failing a test and flagging (or any other action) are very

different.  In this case, the original question made it seem as though
the 
E-mail wasn't failing the test, whereas it may be that the E-mail did
fail 
the test but an action other than the one you wanted was used.


The email was't failing the test. Im sorry to be so confusing. The only
action I have on this body filter is attach, no weights have been
applied. The particular email in question shouldve failed this test and
been attached, automatically as that what the action is.

Here are the message headers:

Received: from 200-140-164-090.bsace7024.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br
[200.140.164.90] by todhunter.com
  (SMTPD32-7.15) id A5EE223500DE; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:58:22 -0400
Received: from [244.16.159.174] by
200-140-164-090.bsace7024.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br with ESMTP id
<009310-63652>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:06:30 -0100
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Nelson Hurt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Nelson Hurt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 7 How  about obtaining a fully recognized University degree at
home!!?
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:06:30 -0100
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="FF_E90E7._.F0E265C"
X-Priority: 3
X-RBL-Warning: ROUTING: This E-mail was routed in a poor manner
consistent with spam [210f].
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [200.140.164.90]
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com)
for spam.
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: ROUTING
X-RCPT-TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Status: U
X-UIDL: 366043108

Here is the line for the filter in my global.cfg

InBodyFilter Filter D:\Imail\Declude\inBody.txt x 0 0


Here are the lines in the user junkmail file that the failed email was
addressed to:

INBODYFILTERATTACH


Here is the line in the filter itself:

BODY 0 CONTAINS Bachelors and other higher education available in your
fields


And here is the line, copied and pasted directly from the spam email
that should've triggered the filter and didn't:

Bachelors and other higher education available in your fields

Thanks,
Sharyn







We are the worldwide producer and marketer of the award winning Cruzan
Single Barrel Rum, judged "Best in the World" at the annual
San Francisco Wine and Spirits Championships. For
more information, please click (go to) http://www.cruzanrums.com";>www.cruzanrums.com
---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help - overflowing overflow

2003-10-16 Thread Dan Cummings
Thanks for the notes...DNS seemed to be OK, but ended up restarting the server and the 
queue started being processed normally upon restart.  Thanks again!


-- Original Message --
From: Matthew Bramble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:02:12 -0400

>Dan,
>
>Check your DNS settings.  Your outgoing E-mail probably can't be 
>resolved for external mail server addresses.
>
>Matt
>
>
>
>Dan Cummings wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Have about 800 users on a decently powered Imail box running Declude 1.75.  The 
>>system has been running great for months, but today I received reports of delayed 
>>mail and found the overflow folder growing (2000+ messages at present).  When I 
>>test, I find that my messages from outside are typically delivered quickly, but from 
>>local user to local user are delayed.  The server appears to be lightly loaded from 
>>a processor perspective.  Questions 1) any idea of specific causes of such behavior 
>>and 2) how to force delivery of the overflow queue.  
>>
>>Thanks! 
>>  
>>
>
>
>---
>[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
>
>---
>This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
>unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
>type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
>at http://www.mail-archive.com.
>
 
 
---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


[Declude.JunkMail] Selective queue delete based on string?

2003-10-16 Thread Dan Cummings
As a follow up to my previous issue with overflowing overflow, bad luck continues 
today with a mail bomb consisting of the Nigerian scam to a specific user...38,000 
copies give or take a few.  So, a lesson in mail bomb recovery...

Hence my question, is there a decent utility or script to selectively remove from the 
queue based on specific text in the message?  

I can identify the messages using any number of text search utilities, but I am 
hesitant to just delete them knowing that there is a corresponding message in the 
overflow queueis it a matter of just getting the messageID's into a file and then 
zapping them from the /imail/spool and the /imail/spool/overflow in pairs?

Thanks in advance  
 
---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


[Declude.JunkMail] SPAM Tests

2003-10-16 Thread Daniel Ivey
Does anyone know of any good spam tests that I can add to my weighting to
help cut down on the amount of SPAM getting through?

I currently have the following tests run:

DSBLWARN
DNSRBL-SPAM WARN
ORDBWARN
CBL WARN
SPAMCOP DELETE
FIVETENKLEZ WARN
MAILPOLICEPORN  WARN
MAILPOLICEBULK  WARN

DSN WARN
NOABUSE WARN
NOPOSTMASTERWARN

BADHEADERS  WARN
HELOBOGUS   WARN
MAILFROMWARN
PERCENT DELETE
REVDNS  WARN
ROUTING WARN
SPAMHEADERS WARN


WEIGHT8 WARN
WEIGHT10WARN
WEIGHT13DELETE

Any other tests that are good and reliable are greatly appreciated.

==
Daniel Ivey
GCR Company / GCR Online
Voice:  434 - 570 - 1765
Fax: 434 - 572 - 1981
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter question

2003-10-16 Thread R. Scott Perry

In this last example that everyone's filter probably caught, the
original email came through unflagged, but when I forwarded it to the
list, the filter caught it.
Remember that failing a test and flagging (or any other action) are very 
different.  In this case, the original question made it seem as though the 
E-mail wasn't failing the test, whereas it may be that the E-mail did fail 
the test but an action other than the one you wanted was used.

Does the X-Spam-Tests-Failed: header show the name of the filter test?  If 
so, the E-mail is failing the test (the next step would be to determine 
which configuration file was used for the outgoing actions).  If not, then 
then the E-mail did not fail the test (posting the source and the filter 
string would be helpful to determine what happened there -- for example, 
the spammer may have used 2 spaces instead of one between some words).

   -Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers.
Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver 
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spool / overflow problem ?

2003-10-16 Thread R. Scott Perry

I am using PopWeasel to collect mail from another pop server (spam trap) 
and send it to one of the users to try to set Declude JM up.  It has 
seemed to be working good for the last 3 days.  This AM Popweasel dumped 
179 messages into the system.  Within a few minutes most of the messages 
were delivered to the localuser.  However, I still have 34 SMD files in 
both the spool and the overflow directory.  These appear to be copies of 
the same messages.  Is this a problem?  It has been almost 2 hours with no 
traffic to this machine at all and they are still there.  I stopped and 
started QueMgr and they are still there.  One time problem with a message 
stuck or indicative of an underlying problem?  What additional info do I 
need to properly diagnose the problem?  Thanks.
You don't need to worry about this.  This can happen on test servers that 
don't receive incoming mail.  The problem is that when those 179 messages 
were dumped, IMail couldn't handle the load, and Declude Queue took over 
(moving the Q*.SMD files to the \IMail\spool\overflow directory).  However, 
since no more E-mails have arrived, there was nothing to "kick" the 
overflow queue into starting back up.  On a live server, E-mail would 
arrive, which would get the overflow E-mail sent out.

   -Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers.
Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver 
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter question

2003-10-16 Thread Sharyn Schmidt
Im using the latest release.

In this last example that everyone's filter probably caught, the
original email came through unflagged, but when I forwarded it to the
list, the filter caught it.

I have double checked the per user configs to ensure both my personal
email account (where the forwarded spam was caught) and the original
account it was sent to, (where it wasn't caught) have the same action
for that filter. They do.

So why would it get caught on one account, when forwarded, and not on
the other, when received originally?

Sharyn

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter question



>For the spam that doesn t contain a URL that I can block in my URL 
>filter,
>I have taken to trying to find phrases that I can block in my BODY
filter.
>
>My question is&
>
>Should I be blocking these phrases using the text in the email that I 
>can
>see, or should I be blocking phrases that appear when you look at the
source.

That depends.  If there is a difference between what you see and what is
in 
the source of the E-mail, you'll need to determine what the difference 
is.  If the E-mail is HTML with comments or HTML codes used to bypass 
filters, the latest release of Declude JunkMail (1.75) will be able to 
filter the text.

-Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers.
Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver 
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type
"unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found at
http://www.mail-archive.com.


We are the worldwide producer and marketer of the award winning Cruzan
Single Barrel Rum, judged "Best in the World" at the annual
San Francisco Wine and Spirits Championships. For
more information, please click (go to) http://www.cruzanrums.com";>www.cruzanrums.com
---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


[Declude.JunkMail] Spool / overflow problem ?

2003-10-16 Thread Grant E. Stufft D.V.M.
I am having a problem with a test machine.  I would like to put it into production but 
am not sure without checking with the more learned.

Win2003
Imail8.03 HF1
Declude AV 1.76b
Declude JM 1.76b
Message Sniffer as an external test

P4 2.4GHz  1 GB ram
Right now I have only one domain on it with 2 user names.

I am using PopWeasel to collect mail from another pop server (spam trap) and send it 
to one of the users to try to set Declude JM up.  It has seemed to be working good for 
the last 3 days.  This AM Popweasel dumped 179 messages into the system.  Within a few 
minutes most of the messages were delivered to the localuser.  However, I still have 
34 SMD files in both the spool and the overflow directory.  These appear to be copies 
of the same messages.  Is this a problem?  It has been almost 2 hours with no traffic 
to this machine at all and they are still there.  I stopped and started QueMgr and 
they are still there.  One time problem with a message stuck or indicative of an 
underlying problem?  What additional info do I need to properly diagnose the problem?  
Thanks.

Grant


 

 

Sent via the KillerWebMail system at kishvet.com


 
   
**
 This E-mail scanned for viruses by EA Media Mail Services *

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Example of body filter not working

2003-10-16 Thread Sharyn Schmidt
Ok, that was weird.

My filter nabbed my email to the declude list, but didn't catch the
original email.

I have checked the per user configs and the attach action is set to both
my account and the original account that the email was sent to.

Sharyn


We are the worldwide producer and marketer of the award winning Cruzan
Single Barrel Rum, judged "Best in the World" at the annual
San Francisco Wine and Spirits Championships. For
more information, please click (go to) http://www.cruzanrums.com";>www.cruzanrums.com
---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


[Declude.JunkMail] Example of body filter not working

2003-10-16 Thread Sharyn Schmidt
This is a perfect example of my body filter not working..

In my BODY filter, I have the following line:

BODY 0 CONTAINS Bachelors and other higher education available in your
fields

I have the attach action set to this entire filter, yet the email below
came through, unattached.

For those of you who have this nabbed as spam (although I guess I run
the risk of some not even seeing this email), maybe you could share with
me how you are blocking stuff like this. 

Thanks,
Sharyn



-Original Message-
From: Nelson Hurt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 7 How about obtaining a fully recognized University degree at
home!!?


Bachelors and other higher education available in your fields

Do you want a prosperous future? 

Do you want to increase your earning power?

Based on your life experience 

Diplomas from prestigious non-accredited universities 

No required tests, classes, books, or interviews. 

To Learn More Call  

1  775   490   9881 

(anytime including weekends and holidays)

Confidentiality assured 

No one is turned down

1  775  490
9881




==



Opt-out
http://e-greatoffers.net/[EMAIL PROTECTED]


4


We are the worldwide producer and marketer of the award winning Cruzan
Single Barrel Rum, judged "Best in the World" at the annual
San Francisco Wine and Spirits Championships. For
more information, please click (go to) http://www.cruzanrums.com";>www.cruzanrums.com
---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


[Declude.JunkMail] Filter question On Short Keywords

2003-10-16 Thread Darrell LaRock
We make extensive use of filters based on keywords.  With short keywords
like like S_e_x we sometimes run into problems with keyword being triggered
based on base64 encoding of an attachment.

Example:
10/13/2003 00:00:36 Q236256fe026ef9a4 Triggered CONTAINS filter WORDFILTER
on sex [weight->2; SExQlAnjsABzk

My Questions:
1.) Is it possible to have a test created that detects attachments?
2.) Is there some kind of general text that is inserted into the headers or
body that indicates that an attachment is present?

Thanks
Darrell

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam Database lookup filter?

2003-10-16 Thread R. Scott Perry

It should be very usefull if we can specifiy optionaly a list of Databases
to ask for.
So I can see in the result list immediatly how much ip4r and rhbsl tests
I've in use that return a positive result.
That's a good idea -- I'll see if we can add an option that will let you 
list which databases to check.

   -Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers.
Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver 
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter question

2003-10-16 Thread R. Scott Perry

For the spam that doesn t contain a URL that I can block in my URL filter, 
I have taken to trying to find phrases that I can block in my BODY filter.

My question is&

Should I be blocking these phrases using the text in the email that I can 
see, or should I be blocking phrases that appear when you look at the source.
That depends.  If there is a difference between what you see and what is in 
the source of the E-mail, you'll need to determine what the difference 
is.  If the E-mail is HTML with comments or HTML codes used to bypass 
filters, the latest release of Declude JunkMail (1.75) will be able to 
filter the text.

   -Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers.
Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver 
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Delete based on word filter!

2003-10-16 Thread Marc Catuogno
I hate to say this but what about using a bounce message?  As the postmaster
you will get all the undeliverable from the spammers using any banned words
and legitimate mailers can contact you if they get an erroneous bounce
because and encoded attachment had a random convergence that resulted in a
dirty word...

Marc

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Horne
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 01:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Delete based on word filter!


This is the best idea I have heard so far.   I will suggest it to my
superiors.


Regards,

Dan Horne, CCNA
Web Services Administrator
TAIS Web
Wilcox World Travel & Tours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:
This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the
intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged
information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is
prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender
by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler
> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:59 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Delete based on word filter!
>
>
>
>
> > Prior to this, we haven't deleted anything outright until
> > reviewed by the receptionist.  Every time I hear them utter
> > the word delete, my skin crawls.
> > So my request from the list:  Can you either give me some
> > ammo to back up my side, or provide me with a solution that
> > keeps her from having to see the nastygrams while still
> > minimizing false-positives?
>
> My suggestion is:
> 1.) Use SpamReview to review the hold messages
> 2.) Set up 2 weight actions (for example when you actually hold on 20
> points)
> WEIGHT19 SUBJECT [spam%WEIGHT%]
> WEIGHT20 HOLD
>
> Note: Put a space char after the subject string to divide the
> original subject and your [spamxx]
>
> 3.) Now you can sort all hold messages in SpamReview by their
> spam-weight (sort by subject) The receptionist can now review
> only the messages between 20 and around 40 points. All above
> 200% of your hold weight should be really spam and can be
> deleted (or in spamreview "move to hold") So you keep all
> hold messages and can set a scheduled task that deletes
> regulary all hold spam older then ~14 days.
>
> With this solution we have to review only around 15% of our
> hold spam. The rest can be deleted immediatly - we have never
> seen a false positive above 200% of our hold weight.
>
> If you not want to manualy delete (or "move to hold")
> messages above 40 points you can also set up a third weight
> action "WEIGHT40 delete"
>
> So I recommend not to delete based on word filter but over a
> certain weight. The receptionist will love this solution and
> you can walk trough your office and sing "we save one cent,
> we save one cent...  for every single spam we hold"  ;-)
>
> Markus
>
> ---
> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
> (http://www.declude.com)]
>
> ---
> This E-mail came from the
> Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To unsubscribe, just send an
> E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe
> Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found at
> http://www.mail-archive.com.
>

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.
---
[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]


---
[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


[Declude.JunkMail] Filter question

2003-10-16 Thread Sharyn Schmidt
Title: Filter question






Good morning,


For the spam that doesn’t contain a URL that I can block in my URL filter, I have taken to trying to find phrases that I can block in my BODY filter.

My question is…


Should I be blocking these phrases using the text in the email that I can see, or should I be blocking phrases that appear when you look at the source.

This filter isn't working very well at all so I'm sure I'm doing something wrong. My URL filter works GREAT.


Thanks,

Sharyn





[Declude.JunkMail] Spam Database lookup filter?

2003-10-16 Thread Markus Gufler
Hi Scott
 
Nothing urgent but I've had now several time the same situation:

Some IP (mostly DUL or xDSL-lines) is listed in several spam databases. The
Spam Database lookup is very usefull to find out where this IP is
blacklisted.

But there are a lot of Databases and I've not configured all in my
global.cfg file because 
-it has created to many FP's
-it needs a subscription
-it's not reccomended
-...

It should be very usefull if we can specifiy optionaly a list of Databases
to ask for.
So I can see in the result list immediatly how much ip4r and rhbsl tests
I've in use that return a positive result.

I know, I can see this also in the declude logfile or in the X-mailheaders
but this requires a SMTP-delivery from this IP-address anytime I want to
check it. 

Maybe something like 
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ip4r.ch?ip=123.123.123.123&filter=XBL,BLARSBL,
SPAMCOP

Markus

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Null Sender Spam for Valid Accounts

2003-10-16 Thread R. Scott Perry

I  have  re-enabled 'Refuse Null Senders' to relieve this problem, but
would like to find a more compliant solution. Does any one know how to
attack this issue in another way?
This is a very, very common problem -- if you look at the return addresses 
of your spam, you'll see that about 90% or so are either valid addresses or 
could be.  Those people will all get bounce messages.

By using "Refuse NULL Senders" temporarily, you're saying "These bounces 
are so bad I'm willing not to receive ANY bounce messages 
temporarily".  And, there's the side-effect that these double-bounces will 
often be seen by systems administrators, who end up doing your job for you 
(which is why they list people who do this in http://www.rfc-ignornant.org ).

Unfortunately, I'm not aware of any way to easily distinguish these bounces 
from other bounces.

   -Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers.
Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver 
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


[Declude.JunkMail] Null Sender Spam for Valid Accounts

2003-10-16 Thread Roger Heath
Looking  at  Scott's  response below, I'd like to have the Refuse Null
Sender  switch off, but we have a situation where spammers are forging
valid  e-mail  addresses.  We have thousands of bounces showing up for
messages   never   sent   from   valid  accounts  here.  For  example,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  may  be  a  valid  account  but  he  is not a
spammer.  But  a  spammer  uses [EMAIL PROTECTED] forges tens of
thousands  of messages with this as the 'reply to' account in headers.
Since   the  spammer  has  many  unvalid  accounts  in  his  spamming,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is swamped with thousands of bounced mails for
mails  that  he did not even send... This is now happening to hundreds
of  accounts  here  because  it  looks  like the spammer's software is
randomly selecting them from a spam list.

I  have  re-enabled 'Refuse Null Senders' to relieve this problem, but
would like to find a more compliant solution. Does any one know how to
attack this issue in another way?

--
Roger Heath
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.rleeheath.com

R> Well,  the  real question is why do you think that you are safer by
R> rejecting  those  E-mails?  I'm not aware of any safety issues. The
R> only  issue  I  am  aware of is that a small percentage of spammers
R> send their spam that way.
R>
R> The  NULL  <>  sender  has  been  used for over 20 years for bounce
R> messages  and  other automated messages (such as vacation messages,
R> and  those  awful  spam  confirmation  E-mails, and Delivery Status
R> Notifications).
R> 
R> So the choices are :
R> 
R> [1] Comply (leave "Refuse NULL <> Senders" at the default UNchecked
R> setting). Pros: Your mailserver will act as expected. Cons: As very
R> small  percentage  of spam is sent this way, but it can be detected
R> using standard spam control.
R> 
R> [2]  Refuse NULL <> senders. Pros: You'll have that "safe" feeling.
R> Cons:  You  won't  receive all your E-mail, because you're blocking
R> someofit,andbecauseyou'llgetlisted   at
R> http://www.rfc-ignorant.org .
R> 
R> -Scott





--
ActivatorMail(tm) ver.01010031 Scanned for all viruses by 
www.activatormail.com intelligent anti-virus anti-spam service

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.