[Declude.JunkMail] %RemoteRecps%

2004-04-08 Thread serge
Hi scott

The external test matt just wrote is an unvaluable tool for junkmail
It also gives us some insight on how to write our own tests to achieve many
many things

One of them will however need the %RemoteRecep% variable already available
in delude virus
Is is also available or can it be easily imported to junkmail ? (And while
you are at it, %nbremoterecp% would also be very usufull)

Finaly, we all know you have a feature list you work on, is it possible to
publish it on your web site so we know what to expect ?
I understand the list is not always accurate, and some features may never be
implemented, but   it will still give us some insight.

I personaly have a wish list of less then 10 features that will make my life
easier, if i do post it here, would you give me some info about which
features may be implemented and a rough timeframe (like few days, few weeks,
few months, ...)

TIA

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


[Declude.JunkMail] Size v1.0.0 - Externalplus test

2004-04-08 Thread Matt




Ok, looks like I finally got it all together.  I tried to code this up
so that it is flexible, allowing an administrator to specify as many
different sizes as he or she wishes, and opt whether or not to use the
weight skipping mechanism.  Here's how it works...

There are three arguments to the script, SZ, which is the list of sizes
you specify, CW, which is the current weight in Declude, and SW, which
is the weight at which you skip processing the test.  Note that you
must use Declude JunkMail 1.79i4 or higher to properly make use of the
weight skipping mechanism.  A command line (without the CScript
stuff) would look like the following:

    C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\Size.vbs SZ=.5,5,30,100,300,1000
CW=%WEIGHT% SW=28

Note that you don't need the identifiers if you don't want to use them
("SZ=", "CW=" and "SW=").  The above arguments will cause the script to
only run if the current weight is less than 28.  The 6 values for the
size settings are done in KB's, and 6 values will result in 7 non-zero
result codes since it will also return a code for anything larger than
the last value.

The result codes passed to Declude will begin with a value of 11 and
increment by one for each successive size.  Only one match will be
returned, the lowest matching value.  For instance, the above example
will return the following result codes according to message size:
Result Code 11 - Less than 0.5 KB (but not zero)
Result Code 12 - Between 0.5 KB and 5 KB
Result Code 13 - Between 5 KB and 30 KB
Result Code 14 - Between 30 KB and 100 KB
Result Code 15 - Between 100 KB and 300 KB
Result Code 16 - Between 300 KB and 1000 KB
Result Code 17 - Greater than or equal to 1000 KB


You can use as many or as few size values as you wish, for instance if
you used "SZ=10,50", the following would be returned
Result Code 11 - Less than 10 KB (but not zero)
Result Code 12 - Between 10 KB and 50 KB
Result Code 13 - Greater than or equal to 50 KB


My current implementation in Declude is as follows.  Note that this
shows the CScript calls necessary unless you configure your system for
a default scripting host with the appropriate arguments:

SIZE-XXS    external    11    "CScript
C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\Size.vbs //NoLogo //T:2
SZ=.5,5,30,100,300,1000 CW=%WEIGHT% SW=28"    2    0
  SIZE-XS        external    12    "CScript
C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\Size.vbs //NoLogo //T:2
SZ=.5,5,30,100,300,1000 CW=%WEIGHT% SW=28"    0    0
  SIZE-S        external    13    "CScript
C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\Size.vbs //NoLogo //T:2
SZ=.5,5,30,100,300,1000 CW=%WEIGHT% SW=28"    0    0
  SIZE-M        external    14    "CScript
C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\Size.vbs //NoLogo //T:2
SZ=.5,5,30,100,300,1000 CW=%WEIGHT% SW=28"    0    0
  SIZE-L        external    15    "CScript
C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\Size.vbs //NoLogo //T:2
SZ=.5,5,30,100,300,1000 CW=%WEIGHT% SW=28"    -2    0
  SIZE-XL        external    16    "CScript
C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\Size.vbs //NoLogo //T:2
SZ=.5,5,30,100,300,1000 CW=%WEIGHT% SW=28"    -3    0
  SIZE-XXL    external    17    "CScript
C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\Size.vbs //NoLogo //T:2
SZ=.5,5,30,100,300,1000 CW=%WEIGHT% SW=28"    -5    0

In this implementation, the following test names correspond to the
message sizes as follows:
SIZE-XXS = Result Code 11 - Less than 0.5 KB (but not zero)
SIZE-XS = Result Code 12 - Between 0.5 KB and 5 KB
SIZE-S = Result Code 13 - Between 5 KB and 30 KB
SIZE-M = Result Code 14 - Between 30 KB and 100 KB
SIZE-L = Result Code 15 - Between 100 KB and 300 KB
SIZE-XL = Result Code 16 - Between 300 KB and 1000 KB
SIZE-XXL = Result Code 17 - Greater than or equal to 1000 KB


There is a tiny bit of error correction in the script, for instance it
won't take the wrong number of arguments and returns a result code of
zero if that condition is found.  If others feel that the script can be
improved, please share your thoughts and code.  Also, after a little
bit of testing to make sure that it is sufficiently flexible and
properly suited to general needs, I certainly wouldn't mind this being
converted to a compiled executable.  For now, the Size.vbs file can be
downloaded from the beta filters section of my site.
http://www.mailpure.com/software/decludefilters/beta/  
(Size_v1-0-0.zip)


Thanks to everyone for helping me along the way.

Matt
-- 
=
MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro.
http://www.mailpure.com/software/
=




[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Adaptec 29160

2004-04-08 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
If any one out there likes playing with hardware and has time, I have an
Adaptec 29160 that I removed from service as it was showing parity errors
and would cause drives to dismount. Turns out it is an OEM board that my
previous employer had purchased as a BULK item about 2 years ago.

Card is free, just pay for UPS ground shipping.

Otherwise, it is going to be filed in the appropriate place for such things,
commonly known as the file cabinet which is cylindrical in shape and is
loaded from the top.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You



---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Double hit on SPAM/BADHEADERS with c020040c

2004-04-08 Thread R. Scott Perry

Thanks for the explanation.  I was just making sure.  I agree that the 
logic is sound, it was just the code that was confusing.  Strangely enough 
the only time this code comes up, which is rare, both tests fail.
That's because the code has a list of the flaws that Declude JunkMail finds 
in the E-mail.  So every time that code comes up, the E-mail will fail both 
the SPAMHEADERS and BADHEADERS test (and in the same way, if you take the 
code of an E-mail that fails the SPAMHEADERS test, you'll find that every 
other E-mail with that same code fails only the SPAMHEADERS test).

   -Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers 
since 2000.
Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver 
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Double hit on SPAM/BADHEADERS with c020040c

2004-04-08 Thread Matt
Scott,

Thanks for the explanation.  I was just making sure.  I agree that the 
logic is sound, it was just the code that was confusing.  Strangely 
enough the only time this code comes up, which is rare, both tests fail.

Matt

R. Scott Perry wrote:


I'm wondering if the following double hit for SPAMHEADERS and 
BADHEADERS for the same code is related to the same problem (an 
invalid date header) and if failing both tests is intentional?


It's due to two problems -- whenever both tests fail, there are two 
(or more) problems.  An E-mail will fail one of those two tests if it 
has a header that is [1] spam-like, and [2] not usually seen with 
legitimate mail clients.  If the header is RFC-compliant, it fails the 
SPAMHEADERS test; otherwise, it fails the BADHEADERS test.

Note that the same code is used for both the BADHEADERS and 
SPAMHEADERS (so if an E-mail fails both tests, the code for each one 
will always be the same).

X-MailPure: BADHEADERS: Failed, headers not RFC compliant [c020040c] 
(weight 4).
X-MailPure: SPAMHEADERS: Failed, header code consistent with spam 
[c020040c] (weight 4).


The c020040c indicates an E-mail that [1] Has no Date: header, which 
is a required header per the RFCs, causing the E-mail to fail the 
BADHEADERS test, and [2] Has no space after the "To:" header, which is 
technically valid, so the E-mail fails the SPAMHEADERS test as well.

   -Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail 
mailservers since 2000.
Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in 
mailserver vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus 
(http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.

--
=
MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro.
http://www.mailpure.com/software/
=
---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


[Declude.JunkMail] X-Declude-Status: Waiting for activation code

2004-04-08 Thread Matt Robertson
I have the above header in my mail.  Just showed up not too long ago.  

I have JM Pro and Visur Standard.  Virus Standard is running and I have disabled JM 
Pro by renaming my global.cfg.

Whats happening here?  I've got a service agreement.


--
---
 Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
---

--
---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] X-Declude-Status: Waiting for activation code

2004-04-08 Thread R. Scott Perry

I have the above header in my mail.  Just showed up not too long ago.

I have JM Pro and Visur Standard.  Virus Standard is running and I have 
disabled JM Pro by renaming my global.cfg.

Whats happening here?  I've got a service agreement.
That's a bug in an old beta -- if you upgrade to the latest beta, it will 
take care of the problem.

   -Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers 
since 2000.
Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver 
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Double hit on SPAM/BADHEADERS with c020040c

2004-04-08 Thread R. Scott Perry

I'm wondering if the following double hit for SPAMHEADERS and BADHEADERS 
for the same code is related to the same problem (an invalid date header) 
and if failing both tests is intentional?
It's due to two problems -- whenever both tests fail, there are two (or 
more) problems.  An E-mail will fail one of those two tests if it has a 
header that is [1] spam-like, and [2] not usually seen with legitimate mail 
clients.  If the header is RFC-compliant, it fails the SPAMHEADERS test; 
otherwise, it fails the BADHEADERS test.

Note that the same code is used for both the BADHEADERS and SPAMHEADERS (so 
if an E-mail fails both tests, the code for each one will always be the same).

X-MailPure: BADHEADERS: Failed, headers not RFC compliant [c020040c] 
(weight 4).
X-MailPure: SPAMHEADERS: Failed, header code consistent with spam 
[c020040c] (weight 4).
The c020040c indicates an E-mail that [1] Has no Date: header, which is a 
required header per the RFCs, causing the E-mail to fail the BADHEADERS 
test, and [2] Has no space after the "To:" header, which is technically 
valid, so the E-mail fails the SPAMHEADERS test as well.

   -Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers 
since 2000.
Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver 
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] NOLEGITCONTENT Test

2004-04-08 Thread Darin Cox
You're just baiting me to see if I'll go wacko again, aren't you?  SPAM,
HAM...must resist...

>From what I've seen, it's still a very useful test for reducing false
positives.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: "Goran Jovanovic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 5:11 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] NOLEGITCONTENT Test


Scott,

Would you say that this test is still "a valid" test? Is it still worth
-5 when the e-mail does not fail it? If both SPAM and HAM are almost
never tripping it perhaps it is a moot point anyway as all mail will
have the -5 added to it.


 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe
 2345 Yonge Street, Suite 302
 Toronto, Ontario M4P 2E5
 Phone: (416) 440-1167 x-2113
 Cell: (416) 931-0688
 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 4:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] NOLEGITCONTENT Test


>Is there a description of what the NOLEGITCONTENT test looks for? It is
>adding -5 to a lot of mails and I would like to understand it better.

It looks for information that is rarely ever seen in spam, that appears
more frequently in legitimate E-mail.  The idea is to help ensure that
legitimate E-mail gets delivered.  However, it seems that since the test

was created, more and more spammers have started using portions of real
legitimate E-mails in their spam (in an attempt to bypass Bayesian
filtering), which may cause this test to be triggered.


-Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers
since 2000.
Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in
mailserver
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


[Declude.JunkMail] Double hit on SPAM/BADHEADERS with c020040c

2004-04-08 Thread Matt
Scott,

I'm wondering if the following double hit for SPAMHEADERS and BADHEADERS 
for the same code is related to the same problem (an invalid date 
header) and if failing both tests is intentional?

Out of 4,000 messages held in the last week scoring between 10 and 24 on 
my system (higher scores land elsewhere), this code only came up 
matching two different sources, one false positive and the other a piece 
of spam that scored a 17 sent with "X-EAMsg".  I see the double hit 
causing FP's on an occasion and it doesn't seem to be providing much 
benefit on my system.

Thanks,

Matt

Received: from mo.bulk.sprintpcs.com [68.28.3.13] by mx1.mailpure.com 
with ESMTP
 (SMTPD32-8.05) id A6144C3017C; Wed, 07 Apr 2004 16:35:32 -0400
Received: from [192.168.5.14] (helo=messaging.sprintpcs.com)
by mo.bulk.sprintpcs.com with smtp (Exim 4.30)
id 1BBJiz-p8-II
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 07 Apr 2004 15:32:41 -0500
FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [13]
X-MailPure: 
X-MailPure: NOREVDNS: Failed, no reverse DNS entry (weight 1).
X-MailPure: HELOBOGUS: Failed, bogus connecting server name (weight 3).
X-MailPure: BADHEADERS: Failed, headers not RFC compliant [c020040c] 
(weight 4).
X-MailPure: SPAMHEADERS: Failed, header code consistent with spam 
[c020040c] (weight 4).
X-MailPure: SIZE-XXS: Failed, found XX-Small file size (weight 3).
X-MailPure: LEGITCONTENT: Passed, legitimate content detected (weight -2).
X-MailPure: 



--
=
MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro.
http://www.mailpure.com/software/
=
---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Passing weight to Externalplus test

2004-04-08 Thread Matt




Markus,

Thanks for the stats.  I've actually been keeping copies of all of the
false positives that we are reprocessing since Monday.  Here's a break
down by the sender (considering that some newsletters and ads are sent
to multiple recipients and that throws off the numbers):
1 - < 0.5 KB
1 - 0.5 KB to 1 KB
5 - 1 KB to 5 KB
2 - 5 KB to 10 KB
2 - 10 KB to 15 KB
6 - 15 KB to 20 KB
0 - 20 KB to 30 KB
1 - 30 KB to 40 KB
2 - 40 KB to 50 KB
0 - 50 KB to 75 KB
2 - 75 KB to 100 KB
1 - 100 KB to 200 KB
1 - 200 KB to 300 KB
1 - > 300 KB

I'm mostly concerned about false positives and performance currently,
and while our FP rate is regularly below 0.02% now, this still takes
almost as much time to find problems and fix them as it did when our
rate was many times more that.  I need to therefore balance the
potential of causing FP's with adding points for weight with the
incremental benefit of being able to block a small extra percentage of
spam, and err heavily to the side of protecting from FP's.

Also note that I am very liberal in classifying good E-mail, allowing
through anything where the recipient has a first-party relationship
with the sender.  FootLocker.com for instance sent me two ads in a week
for the first time since I bought something from them 20 months ago.  I
figure that as long as they honor my opt-out (despite not every
opting-in to their ads), this protects those that want the content from
having it blocked.  Unfortunately many administrators consider this
stuff to be spam, and it makes my job more difficult because of reports
to SpamCop, Sniffer, and other places that nominate such things.  While
this stuff may be spam, people should also take note of the limitations
of the blocking mechanism to differentiate between spam from a
particular source, and a legitimate E-mail from that source or
containing similar links.  If you can't differentiate, administrators
should seek out a better method IMO.  Anyway...

I've done some review of our held spam that scores between 10 and 24
points on our system (a 150% boundary) and for instance so far in the
past 4 days every message held over 100 KB was a FP from an individual
(the worst kind).  There's definitely spam between 30 KB and 100 KB,
but as a percentage, this also represents an area where messages
falling in that range are far more likely to be a false positive
because newsletters from dirty sources often enough come in over 30 KB,
while opt-in spammers don't generally bother with that much content and
zombie spammers certainly don't (for now at least).

My thoughts about the weight test are two fold.  For one, I'm really
only interested in adding points to zombie spam since static spammers
can be caught once and then their whole IP space can be blacklisted. 
Static spammers aren't very dynamic outside of their owned blocks, and
I'm not very concerned about proactive protections using a message size
filter.  Zombie spam though is almost always below 5 KB, and sometimes
below 0.5 KB.  If I can narrow this down to 99.9% of it falling below a
certain size, I can use the size test to defeat my processor intensive
filters like GIBBERISH, IPLINKED and @LINKED among others.  Yesterday I
managed to skip processing these filters on 5% of my mail volume when
set to only run below 30 KB in size.  If that magic number is more like
5 KB, I can save much more in terms of processing power.  Another added
benefit is that when you don't run a filter on messages above a certain
size, you limit the potential of a false positive with that filter. 
For instance, I see plenty of FP's on IPLINKED in newsletters, but this
filter is built to target zombie spam, not spam from static sources
which are easily tagged.  So in effect, even without subtracting
points, and just using larger sizes to defeat certain tests, this
protects from FP's and saves processing power.

So far I'm differentiating between filters built for static sources or
a mix, and filters built specifically for zombie spam, and not
processing those types according to different message sizes.  I'm
probably only going to add points to things below 0.5 KB, and this will
only be 10% to 20% of my hold weight.  I did see some FP's from 0.5 KB
to 1 KB, mostly very brief messages that just scraped under the limit. 
I'm going to try looking for the minimum size of a message sent from a
legit mail client and only add points below that point.  The sweet spot
for zombie spam certainly appears to be below 5 K, but I have to do
some more research on that.  Unfortunately I can't parse the COPYFILE
message bodies for headers so that I could more effectively identify
the zombie stuff.

For those that have asked or are interested in the weight filter, what
I'm going to do is set it up with the ability to set 7 different ranges
by way of the arguments in a comma delimited string.  This way everyone
can tune it to their own needs.  The skipping of the filter will also
be configurable with arguments as long as you are using 1

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] NOLEGITCONTENT Test

2004-04-08 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Scott,

Would you say that this test is still "a valid" test? Is it still worth
-5 when the e-mail does not fail it? If both SPAM and HAM are almost
never tripping it perhaps it is a moot point anyway as all mail will
have the -5 added to it.

 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe
 2345 Yonge Street, Suite 302
 Toronto, Ontario M4P 2E5
 Phone: (416) 440-1167 x-2113
 Cell: (416) 931-0688
 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 4:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] NOLEGITCONTENT Test


>Is there a description of what the NOLEGITCONTENT test looks for? It is
>adding -5 to a lot of mails and I would like to understand it better.

It looks for information that is rarely ever seen in spam, that appears 
more frequently in legitimate E-mail.  The idea is to help ensure that 
legitimate E-mail gets delivered.  However, it seems that since the test

was created, more and more spammers have started using portions of real 
legitimate E-mails in their spam (in an attempt to bypass Bayesian 
filtering), which may cause this test to be triggered.


-Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers 
since 2000.
Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in
mailserver 
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Translate subject line encoded

2004-04-08 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)


If you have seen one Crusade, you have seen them all.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharyn Schmidt
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 12:38 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Translate subject line encoded
> 
> Hmmm...looks like a reference to the 7th Crusade which lasted from
> 1248-1254.  Like all of the other crusades, it was launched in the hopes
of
> finding the "Golden Windows" or, as some call it today, the "Holy Grail".
> 
> We see the clear reference to Windows, or Grail, but some Latin and/or
> Spanish influence may have caused this line to get corrupted, thus the
> adjective representing gold after the noun (at the end of the line).
"Lu",
> presumably for "Lux", and "A0:_RE", probably corrupted from "AU" or "AUR",
> thus "Lu=A0:_RE" makes sense in that gold shines.
> 
> The "?Q?" seems to indicated some disillusionment with this late crusade
or
> "Quest", which is to be expected after 150 years...and this being the next
> to last crusade.
> 
> Hope this helps...
> 
> 
> Ok, I hate to encourage him any more ..but sheesh ..THIS WAS
> FUNNY
> 
> LMAO
> 
> Sharyn
> 
> Darin.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:28 PM
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Translate subject line encoded
> 
> 
> Does some one know what this means in plain English?
> 
> =?Windows-1252?Q?Lu=A0:_RE
> 
> John Tolmachoff
> Engineer/Consultant/Owner
> eServices For You
> 
> 
> 
> ---
> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
> (http://www.declude.com)]
> 
> ---
> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To unsubscribe,
> just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe
> Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found at
> http://www.mail-archive.com.
> 
> ---
> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
> (http://www.declude.com)]
> 
> ---
> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To unsubscribe,
> just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe
> Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found at
> http://www.mail-archive.com.
> 
> 
> We are the worldwide producer and marketer of the award winning Cruzan
> Single Barrel Rum, judged "Best in the World" at the annual
> San Francisco Wine and Spirits Championships. For
> more information, please click (go to)  href="http://www.cruzanrums.com";>www.cruzanrums.com
> ---
> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]
> 
> ---
> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
> at http://www.mail-archive.com.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Recall: [Declude.JunkMail] NOLEGITCONTENT Test

2004-04-08 Thread Lukasz Kaminski
Lukasz Kaminski would like to recall the message, "[Declude.JunkMail]
NOLEGITCONTENT Test".
<>

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] NOLEGITCONTENT Test

2004-04-08 Thread Lukasz Kaminski
This test should NOT be used to detect spam! It will be triggered Declude
JunkMail does not detect any legitimate content in an E-mail. Note that a
lot of legitimate E-mail will fail this test, but almost all spam will fail
it. Like the IPNOTINMX test, this test is good for helping reduce false
positives. By default, Declude JunkMail will subtract several points from
the weighting system when an E-mail does not fail this test (which is very
different from the way a spam test normally works).

IPNOTINMX and NOLEGITCONTENT tests are designed to help legitimate E-mail
rather than hurt spam. As a result, E-mails that fail those tests will have
not have any points added to them, but E-mails that do not fail them will
have points subtracted from their total weight.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 4:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] NOLEGITCONTENT Test

Hi,

Is there a description of what the NOLEGITCONTENT test looks for? It is
adding -5 to a lot of mails and I would like to understand it better.

Thanx

 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe
 2345 Yonge Street, Suite 302
 Toronto, Ontario M4P 2E5
 Phone: (416) 440-1167 x-2113
 Cell: (416) 931-0688
 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.



---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] NOLEGITCONTENT Test

2004-04-08 Thread R. Scott Perry

Is there a description of what the NOLEGITCONTENT test looks for? It is
adding -5 to a lot of mails and I would like to understand it better.
It looks for information that is rarely ever seen in spam, that appears 
more frequently in legitimate E-mail.  The idea is to help ensure that 
legitimate E-mail gets delivered.  However, it seems that since the test 
was created, more and more spammers have started using portions of real 
legitimate E-mails in their spam (in an attempt to bypass Bayesian 
filtering), which may cause this test to be triggered.

   -Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers 
since 2000.
Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver 
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


[Declude.JunkMail] NOLEGITCONTENT Test

2004-04-08 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Hi,

Is there a description of what the NOLEGITCONTENT test looks for? It is
adding -5 to a lot of mails and I would like to understand it better.

Thanx

 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe
 2345 Yonge Street, Suite 302
 Toronto, Ontario M4P 2E5
 Phone: (416) 440-1167 x-2113
 Cell: (416) 931-0688
 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] feature request IPBYPASS and COUNTRY-CHAIN

2004-04-08 Thread Markus Gufler


> We will look into this.  However, since the geolocation (IP->country
> functionality) is still considered experimental, it probably 
> will not be a high priority.

Well for an "experimental" feature I can confirm that it works realy good
and with 40% of right results by 6% of false positives it is far bether then
most other tests.

In other words it outperforms tests like HELOBOGUS, REVDNS, BADHEADERS,
SPAMHEADERS, ROUTING and nearly all IP blacklists.


> In the meantime, my recommendation would be to use filters to 
> assign a negative weight to E-mails from those countries (a 
> filter file with a line such as "COUNTRY -10 CONTAINS IT").

Hmm, it would be a little bit bether then maintaining a list of italian IP
ranges but the real problem will remain the same: I use a static
counterweight for a dynamic up and downgoing weight from different IP
blacklists.

I can understand that this feature wouldn't be usefull for most (american)
customers, but as an idea maybe it would be possible to use a more
"detailed" GeoIP datasource that is able to identify also states, regions or
provinces.

The latest versions of Sawmill contain a GeoIP database with around 13.8 MB
filesize. With this file it's possible to create webreports containing
detailed information about the origin of visitors. And this not only for
countries but also for states, regions or provinces.

I don't know the situation in oversea but probably there are several
mailservers around that can profit from such a detailed IP location.

Markus

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Translate subject line encoded

2004-04-08 Thread Sharyn Schmidt
Hmmm...looks like a reference to the 7th Crusade which lasted from
1248-1254.  Like all of the other crusades, it was launched in the hopes of
finding the "Golden Windows" or, as some call it today, the "Holy Grail".

We see the clear reference to Windows, or Grail, but some Latin and/or
Spanish influence may have caused this line to get corrupted, thus the
adjective representing gold after the noun (at the end of the line).  "Lu",
presumably for "Lux", and "A0:_RE", probably corrupted from "AU" or "AUR",
thus "Lu=A0:_RE" makes sense in that gold shines.

The "?Q?" seems to indicated some disillusionment with this late crusade or
"Quest", which is to be expected after 150 years...and this being the next
to last crusade.

Hope this helps...


Ok, I hate to encourage him any more ..but sheesh ..THIS WAS
FUNNY

LMAO

Sharyn

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:28 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Translate subject line encoded


Does some one know what this means in plain English?

=?Windows-1252?Q?Lu=A0:_RE

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You



---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To unsubscribe,
just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe
Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found at
http://www.mail-archive.com.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To unsubscribe,
just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe
Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found at
http://www.mail-archive.com.


We are the worldwide producer and marketer of the award winning Cruzan
Single Barrel Rum, judged "Best in the World" at the annual
San Francisco Wine and Spirits Championships. For
more information, please click (go to) http://www.cruzanrums.com";>www.cruzanrums.com
---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELOBOGUS

2004-04-08 Thread R. Scott Perry

Why did this fail HELOBOGUS:

X-RBL-Warning: HELOBOGUS: Domain mail.sbapro.com has no MX or A records
[0301].
Query: sbapro.com.  Query type: Any record
Declude JunkMail looks at the host name (mail.sbapro.com), not the parent 
(otherwise, it would look for "com" if the HELO/EHLO was "example.com").

Note that mail.sbapro.com does not have an MX record.  It does *currently* 
have an A record, but I'm guessing it did not when you processed the E-mail 
(its DNS is handled by root-dns.com/temp-url.com, which smells like some 
sort of dynamic IP service -- but neither web site works).

   -Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers 
since 2000.
Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver 
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Translate subject line encoded

2004-04-08 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
8-0

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:47 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Translate subject line encoded
> 
> Hmmm...looks like a reference to the 7th Crusade which lasted from
> 1248-1254.  Like all of the other crusades, it was launched in the hopes
of
> finding the "Golden Windows" or, as some call it today, the "Holy Grail".
> 
> We see the clear reference to Windows, or Grail, but some Latin and/or
> Spanish influence may have caused this line to get corrupted, thus the
> adjective representing gold after the noun (at the end of the line).
"Lu",
> presumably for "Lux", and "A0:_RE", probably corrupted from "AU" or "AUR",
> thus "Lu=A0:_RE" makes sense in that gold shines.
> 
> The "?Q?" seems to indicated some disillusionment with this late crusade
or
> "Quest", which is to be expected after 150 years...and this being the next
> to last crusade.
> 
> Hope this helps...
> 
> Darin.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:28 PM
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Translate subject line encoded
> 
> 
> Does some one know what this means in plain English?
> 
> =?Windows-1252?Q?Lu=A0:_RE
> 
> John Tolmachoff
> Engineer/Consultant/Owner
> eServices For You
> 
> 
> 
> ---
> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
> (http://www.declude.com)]
> 
> ---
> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
> at http://www.mail-archive.com.
> 
> ---
> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]
> 
> ---
> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
> at http://www.mail-archive.com.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Translate subject line encoded

2004-04-08 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Would that be French then?

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:49 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Translate subject line encoded
> 
> 
> >Does some one know what this means in plain English?
> >
> >=?Windows-1252?Q?Lu=A0:_RE
> 
> I believe that translates to:
> 
> Luá:_RE
> 
> where the "=A0" turns into an accented lowercase letter "a".
> 
> -Scott
> ---
> Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers
> since 2000.
> Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver
> vulnerability detection.
> Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation.
> 
> ---
> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]
> 
> ---
> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
> at http://www.mail-archive.com.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


[Declude.JunkMail] HELOBOGUS

2004-04-08 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Why did this fail HELOBOGUS:

X-RBL-Warning: HELOBOGUS: Domain mail.sbapro.com has no MX or A records
[0301].

Query: sbapro.com.  Query type: Any record
Recursive query: YesAuthoritative answer: Yes
Query time: 219 ms. Server name: n/a

Answer:
sbapro.com. 7200MX  100  mail.sbapro.com.
sbapro.com. 7200A   64.7.204.194

Authority:
sbapro.com. 200 SOA ns1.root-dns.com.
support.temp-url.com.
1001; serial
28800   ; refresh (8 hours)
14400   ; retry (4 hours)
604800  ; expire (7 days)
200 ; minimum (3 minutes, 20 seconds)
sbapro.com. 86400   NS  ns1.root-dns.com.
sbapro.com. 86400   NS  ns2.root-dns.com.

Additional:
mail.sbapro.com.7200A   64.7.204.194
ns1.root-dns.com.   86400   A   64.7.210.2
ns2.root-dns.com.   86400   A   64.7.210.3

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You



---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Translate subject line encoded

2004-04-08 Thread Royce Fessenden
Definitely a reference to the 7th Crusade.  It couldn't be anything as
arcane as a character translation using Windows Codepage 1252. 

Royce

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 1:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Translate subject line encoded


So are you saying this has nothing to do with the 7th Crusade



Darin.

- Original Message -
From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Translate subject line encoded



>Does some one know what this means in plain English?
>
>=?Windows-1252?Q?Lu=A0:_RE

I believe that translates to:

Luá:_RE

where the "=A0" turns into an accented lowercase letter "a".

-Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers
since 2000.
Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Translate subject line encoded

2004-04-08 Thread Darin Cox
So are you saying this has nothing to do with the 7th Crusade



Darin.

- Original Message - 
From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Translate subject line encoded



>Does some one know what this means in plain English?
>
>=?Windows-1252?Q?Lu=A0:_RE

I believe that translates to:

Luá:_RE

where the "=A0" turns into an accented lowercase letter "a".

-Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers
since 2000.
Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Translate subject line encoded

2004-04-08 Thread R. Scott Perry

Does some one know what this means in plain English?

=?Windows-1252?Q?Lu=A0:_RE
I believe that translates to:

Luá:_RE

where the "=A0" turns into an accented lowercase letter "a".

   -Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers 
since 2000.
Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver 
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Translate subject line encoded

2004-04-08 Thread Darin Cox
Hmmm...looks like a reference to the 7th Crusade which lasted from
1248-1254.  Like all of the other crusades, it was launched in the hopes of
finding the "Golden Windows" or, as some call it today, the "Holy Grail".

We see the clear reference to Windows, or Grail, but some Latin and/or
Spanish influence may have caused this line to get corrupted, thus the
adjective representing gold after the noun (at the end of the line).  "Lu",
presumably for "Lux", and "A0:_RE", probably corrupted from "AU" or "AUR",
thus "Lu=A0:_RE" makes sense in that gold shines.

The "?Q?" seems to indicated some disillusionment with this late crusade or
"Quest", which is to be expected after 150 years...and this being the next
to last crusade.

Hope this helps...

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:28 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Translate subject line encoded


Does some one know what this means in plain English?

=?Windows-1252?Q?Lu=A0:_RE

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You



---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Passing weight to Externalplus test

2004-04-08 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)









Markus, I have to go along with what
Matt said. There are “features/options” I NEED to see in Declude,
but respect Scott’s decion on them, at least for awhile.

 

So Scott, when do we get the option to
allow certain tests to run with PREWHITELIST ON? ;-)>

 



John Tolmachoff

Engineer/Consultant/Owner

eServices For You



 



-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
Passing weight to Externalplus test

 

Markus,

Just to be fair, I have mentioned or asked for a lot of different things that
have not been introduced into Declude.  Clearly by the speed of this
modification, it was a very minor change to the environment, essentially
exposing data that wasn't previously exposed in this way, but existed in other
forms.  Changing the way that Declude Virus handles per-domain settings
though probably represents a major re-write to the system, and although I
definitely want to see this, I have no expectations of it happening at least
until after the next full release.  There are other items also that appear
that they may be minor modifications that also haven't been changed, and I'm
sure that there is a reason for these, and although my opinion or perception may
differ, I accept that it's Scott's call.

I'm absolutely certain though that Scott is not playing favorites here.  I
can tell you that it took me a month and multiple posts to figure out why I
couldn't get a VBScript to return a result code to Declude, and the preface for
that functionality required the presence of a current weight that didn't exist
to be passed to the script.  I've spent probably 20 trying to figure out
something that was not possible until a moment ago, and that's a bit
frustrating honestly, but I am of course relieved now.

This is also not functionality built for just me, it's for everyone because
after the scripts are finished, I'm going to share them with everyone, and the
benefit can be seen by anyone using any type of external test, for instance
SpamD and SpamChk (if you enable it).  If you add that together with the
ease of the change, it makes perfect sense that he would at least consider this
strongly.  The majority of things that I have asked for or indicated
interest in though have not been provided, but I ask for or indicate interest
in many of these things just to show that there is at least one or one more
person interested in them.  I'm not unhappy though with the response; I'm
definitely getting my money's worth and I hope that in return for the
consideration for my multiple requests, that I am also providing something of
value in return as many around here have as well.  What I am also trying
to do here I expect will someday be built into Declude (skipping external tests
by weight, and having a test for message size), and in reality that's what I
would have preferred, but because I didn't expect for my requests to be
honored, I sought to do what I could on my own.

So in reality, I've asked for skipping external tests by weight and didn't get
it, and then I asked for a weight variable so that I could do this myself and
got it.  That seems to be par for the course.

Cheer up :)

Matt



Markus Gufler wrote:



There is now an interim 1.79i3 at 

 WOW!I have to analyze Matt's and Sanford's messages/spelling/psycology. How the hell it's possible to have such a fast reaction (8 minutes!!!) forsuch a request? No doubt, support issues are resolved very fast. Also realy important thingslike EZIP. This is important and good. But I'm asking for month's now for "simple" new features that in themeantime was repeated several times by other customers...  still waiting Can't imagine what I'm doing wrong here. Markus  :-(  ---[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.    





-- =MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro.http://www.mailpure.com/software/=








[Declude.JunkMail] Translate subject line encoded

2004-04-08 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Does some one know what this means in plain English?

=?Windows-1252?Q?Lu=A0:_RE

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You



---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] X-Spam-Tests-Failed: Whitelisted

2004-04-08 Thread R. Scott Perry

One of our clients requested for us to Whitelist one of their customers... I
did it yesterday, and this morning it went (again) to the spam folder I
copied part of the header message (changed the names/IP's to protect the
'innocent').
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: Whitelisted
This line means that the E-mail was whitelisted by Declude JunkMail.

X-IMail-Rule: H~SBL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Data- x.com [000.000.000.000] by
This line means that an IMail rule caught the E-mail (and presumably moved 
it to the spam folder).

Presently, all of our client whitelisting is done in the Global.cfg file -is
there a way to make it separate for each mail domain? (instead of affecting
every e-mail domain?)
You can do that, using the WHITELISTFILE option (see the manual at 
http://www.declude.com/junkmail/manual.htm for details).

   -Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers 
since 2000.
Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver 
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


[Declude.JunkMail] X-Spam-Tests-Failed: Whitelisted

2004-04-08 Thread Brent Brashear
One of our clients requested for us to Whitelist one of their customers... I
did it yesterday, and this morning it went (again) to the spam folder I
copied part of the header message (changed the names/IP's to protect the
'innocent').

X-Spam-Tests-Failed: Whitelisted
X-RCPT-TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Status: R
X-IMail-Rule: H~SBL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Data- x.com [000.000.000.000] by
X-UIDL: 373940800

-Anyone know what happened here?

Presently, all of our client whitelisting is done in the Global.cfg file -is
there a way to make it separate for each mail domain? (instead of affecting
every e-mail domain?)

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude JunkMail FAQ or Knowledge Base?

2004-04-08 Thread Dan Geiser
Hello, All,
Unless this resource has been created and I missed it I'm assuming there's
still a need in the Declude user community for this.  To that end I did some
research and found Wiki hosting site which offers both free and paid hosting
accounts.  I believe my plan for the Wiki would keep it in the
Non-Commercial Use category which means it would be free for now.

I have created a Wiki which we can use to address some of the commonly
occuring issues with Declude.  I haven't done much with it yet but moving
forward I'll be adding FAQs as they come up and also going back through the
Declude mailing list archives to cull what I can out of them.  Anybody is
welcome to contribute but don't go too nuts until a basic structure starts
to form.  I'm hoping that the form of the wiki will follow from the way that
we Declude users use it.

Here is the link to the wiki,
http://www.seedwiki.com/page.cfm?doc=Declude&wikiid=4974.

Feeback is welcome!  Feel free to contact me directly if you have any
questions.

Thanks,
Dan Geiser
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message - 
From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude JunkMail FAQ or Knowledge Base?


>
> >I am considering creating a Declude JunkMail Knowledge Base or at the
very
> >minimum some sort of Frequently Answered Questions document.  I was
curious
> >to know if there are any equivalent documents or resources in existence,
> >perhaps that I've not come across, that would cover the type of
information
> >that would be contained within a KB or FAQ.  Also, do the power that be
at
> >Horizons have any issues with me making a resource of this type?
>
> This is a very good idea -- and one we have no problem with.  :)
>
> -Scott
> ---
> Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers.
> Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver
> vulnerability detection.
> Find out what you have been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation.
>
> ---
> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]
>
> ---
> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
> at http://www.mail-archive.com.
> 
> This E-mail is scanned and free from viruses. www.nexustechgroup.com
>
>

---
Sign up for virus-free and spam-free e-mail with Nexus Technology Group 
http://www.nexustechgroup.com/mailscan

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] COUNTRIES and Warn Doesn't Always Add Header?

2004-04-08 Thread R. Scott Perry

So we can't use comments in flat text files that are you used as filter
files?  Or do they just to be on their own line?
Comments must be on their own line in the filter files (otherwise, you 
couldn't do something like have a filter for "SPECIAL ###OFFER###").

   -Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers 
since 2000.
Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver 
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] COUNTRIES and Warn Doesn't Always Add Header?

2004-04-08 Thread Dan Geiser
Scott,
So we can't use comments in flat text files that are you used as filter
files?  Or do they just to be on their own line?

Thanks,
Dan

- Original Message - 
From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] COUNTRIES and Warn Doesn't Always Add
Header?


>
> >Just looking for a little feedback.  I have the following entries in my
> >configuration files...
> >
> >JunkMail.23.Filter.Country.txt
> >COUNTRIES 5 CONTAINS tw # Taiwan
>
> The problem here is that the list of countries never contains "tw #
> Taiwan".  If you change the line to:
>
> COUNTRIES 5 CONTAINS tw
>
> then it should work.
>
>
> -Scott
> ---
> Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers
> since 2000.
> Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver
> vulnerability detection.
> Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation.
>
> ---
> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]
>
> ---
> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
> at http://www.mail-archive.com.
> ---
> Sign up for virus-free and spam-free e-mail with Nexus Technology Group
> http://www.nexustechgroup.com/mailscan
>
>

---
Sign up for virus-free and spam-free e-mail with Nexus Technology Group 
http://www.nexustechgroup.com/mailscan

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] feature request IPBYPASS and COUNTRY-CHAIN

2004-04-08 Thread R. Scott Perry

You know my problem with numerous false positives caused by changing IP
Blacklist results for several italian ISP-Ips. Occassionaly I can see such
false positives now also for certain austrian Ips
Would it by possible to specify certain IPBYPASS-COUNTRIES and if the mail
oroginates from one of this country, no points for IP blacklist lookups
would be added to the weighting system?
We will look into this.  However, since the geolocation (IP->country 
functionality) is still considered experimental, it probably will not be a 
high priority.

In the meantime, my recommendation would be to use filters to assign a 
negative weight to E-mails from those countries (a filter file with a line 
such as "COUNTRY -10 CONTAINS IT").

   -Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers 
since 2000.
Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver 
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] COUNTRIES and Warn Doesn't Always Add Header?

2004-04-08 Thread R. Scott Perry

Just looking for a little feedback.  I have the following entries in my 
configuration files...

JunkMail.23.Filter.Country.txt
COUNTRIES 5 CONTAINS tw # Taiwan
The problem here is that the list of countries never contains "tw # 
Taiwan".  If you change the line to:

COUNTRIES 5 CONTAINS tw

then it should work.

   -Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers 
since 2000.
Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver 
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


[Declude.JunkMail] COUNTRIES and Warn Doesn't Always Add Header?

2004-04-08 Thread Dan Geiser



Hello, All,
Just looking for a little feedback.  I have 
the following entries in my configuration files...
-
GLOBAL.CFG
FILTER-COUNTRY  filter  D:\IMail\declude\JunkMail.23.Filter.Country.txt  x 0 0
 
JunkMail.23.Filter.Country.txt
COUNTRIES 5 CONTAINS tw # 
Taiwan
 
srp.com\$default$.junkmail
FILTER-COUNTRY  WARN
-
 
I received the following message...
-
Received: from cc.jyu.fi [61.219.34.140] by 
srpdevelopment.com with ESMTP  (SMTPD32-6.06) id AEE110080132; Thu, 08 
Apr 2004 11:25:21 -0400MIME-Version: 1.0From: "Antonio Rushing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>X-MimeOLE: 
Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6600.0Subject: 
=?iso-8859-1?b?VmkmYWdyYSBTcGVjaWFs?=Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 15:23:07 
+To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Content-Type: 
text/htmlContent-Transfer-Encoding: 8bitX-RBL-Warning: SD-2LD: 
Spamdomain '@wuerzburg.de' found: Address 
of [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
sent from invalid 61-219-34-140.HINET-IP.hinet.net.X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[61.219.34.140]X-Note: This E-mail was scanned & filtered by Declude 
[1.75] for SPAM & viruses.X-Country-Chain: 
TAIWAN->destinationX-Note: Recipient(s):  [EMAIL PROTECTED]X-Note: Sent with HELO [cc.jyu.fi] 
from Reverse DNS [61-219-34-140.HINET-IP.hinet.net] X-Spam-Tests-Failed: 
SPAMCOP, IPNOTINMX, NOLEGITCONTENT, WEIGHTRANGE-13+, SD-2LD [18]
-
 
Does anyone know why it didn't add a header 
similar to...
-
X-RBL-Warning: FILTER-COUNTRY: Message failed 
FILTER-COUNTRY test (83)
-
to the headers of that message?
 
This is not the first one of these that I have 
seen.  I've got another from Japan which came in about the same 
time.
 
Thanks In Advance,
Dan Geiser
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


[Declude.JunkMail] feature request IPBYPASS and COUNTRY-CHAIN

2004-04-08 Thread Markus Gufler
Hi Scott,
 
You know my problem with numerous false positives caused by changing IP
Blacklist results for several italian ISP-Ips. Occassionaly I can see such
false positives now also for certain austrian Ips

Would it by possible to specify certain IPBYPASS-COUNTRIES and if the mail
oroginates from one of this country, no points for IP blacklist lookups
would be added to the weighting system?

Markus

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Passing weight to Externalplus test

2004-04-08 Thread Nick Hayer
On 7 Apr 2004 at 17:20, R. Scott Perry wrote:

> There is now an interim 1.79i3 at http://www.declude.com/interim that
> changes the %WEIGHT% variable so that it will include the current
> weight if it is used before the total weight is calculated.
Scott,

For me this is what makes me so loyal to your products. You listen to 
your customers..  

-Nick Hayer

> 
>-Scott
> ---
> Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail
> mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection
> and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what
> you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation.
> 
> ---
> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
> (http://www.declude.com)]
> 
> ---
> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
> at http://www.mail-archive.com.
> 


[AUTOMATED NOTE: Your mail server [170.222.200.91] is missing a reverse DNS entry. All 
Internet hosts are required to have a reverse DNS entry. The missing reverse DNS entry 
will cause your mail to be treated as spam on some servers, such as AOL.]

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Passing weight to Externalplus test

2004-04-08 Thread Markus Gufler

> Cheer up :)

No problem. Just wondered about the 8 minutes.  :-)
I know that in Declude we have a great tool and I can't have it 100% as I
want.

Hope your external test will work fine and you can add additional tests. 
As we check for message sizes in SpamChk for over a year now maybe I can
give you some input about my observations.

What about the idea to use this script as an "external weight" test and let
return the script the result as weight? So you have one single test in the
declude.cfg file and you can return whatever weight you want directly to the
delcude weighting system.

For example I've seen that around 50% of al incomming spam is under 5
kBytes.
However there are spam messages up to 100 kBytes. (see attached diagram
based on around 2 hold spam messages on our server in the last 4 days)

Based on this values we've decided to give a very small negative weight to
messages having less then 32 kByte. More negative points for messages having
at least 48 kBytes and another more neg. points for messages having more
then 64 kByte

Theoreticaly it should be a good idea to return the result directly
dependent on the file size. So for example the minimum file size for a
negative weight should be 30 kByte. This should return e negative weight of
5% of the hold value. (-1 point for hold-on-20) The returned negative weight
should be increased for every additional 10 kBytes by 5% of the hold weight.


Size  Weight
10  0
20  0
30  -1
40  -2
50  -3
60  -4
...
100 -8
...
220 -20


On my server I can see the following variation of message file sizes:

12% >64 kByte
2%  48 to 64 kByte
6%32 to 47 kByte
80% >32 kByte


I consider negative points for large messages as relative secure because
spammers - even if using an army of zombies - can't easily send out a large
quantity of spam of this size.

Markus





spam_filesizes.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Passing weight to Externalplus test

2004-04-08 Thread Matt
Thanks :)



R. Scott Perry wrote:


FYI, in testing I found that the %WEIGHT% is being passed in, however 
it seems to be 500 points higher than in reality, with all the 
weights showing up as being between 500 and 600 over the space of my 
test.


There is a new interim 1.79i4 that fixes this.

   -Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail 
mailservers since 2000.
Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in 
mailserver vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus 
(http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.

--
=
MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro.
http://www.mailpure.com/software/
=
---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Fw: Announcing SURBL support in SA 2.63 and 3.0 plugins

2004-04-08 Thread R. Scott Perry

Scott, since SpamCop has now setup a RBL to support URI checking, is this
something you will consider adding support for in Declude JunkMail?
Thanks for mentioning this -- I'm surprised that this is the first I've 
heard of it.  We will likely add support for this to Declude JunkMail.

   -Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers 
since 2000.
Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver 
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Passing weight to Externalplus test

2004-04-08 Thread R. Scott Perry

FYI, in testing I found that the %WEIGHT% is being passed in, however it 
seems to be 500 points higher than in reality, with all the weights 
showing up as being between 500 and 600 over the space of my test.
There is a new interim 1.79i4 that fixes this.

   -Scott
---
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers 
since 2000.
Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver 
vulnerability detection.
Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Gateways and CMDSPACE conundrum

2004-04-08 Thread Matt




Sandy et al.,

Regarding how peering is handled, that sucks!  It was a bit of a kludge
anyway, more than most at least.

I just got mail bombed on both servers by three different ISP relays. 
The recipient address was invalid (sent to and from itself), and if I
had MS SMTP/ORF configured on both machines to blacklist invalid
addresses (instead of just the domain on the backup as is done
currently), this would have stopped that attack cold without me lifting
a finger.  Instead I was stuck scanning as many as 15 incoming messages
per second, or at least trying to do so, but not succeeding.  Worse
yet, the destination server was bouncing NDR's back through our server
and each of those were being virus scanned despite the original being
in plain text.

I've also noticed that there are a couple hundred E-mails a day in the
backup's BadMail directory for locally hosted domains with non-existant
accounts.  I'm only hosting about 300 accounts in total, and this is
all to just those addresses and not the gatewayed domains.  Address
validation would stop these needless bounces to forged addresses from
my servers and help to clean up the Internet.

I have a feeling that the need for CMDSPACE detection falls far short
of the need for address validation for gatewayed domains.  ORF seems to
be a great tool for this because I can do things like configure a local
RBL for instance to block virus sending machines on the gateway by
maintaining a single zone, along with sender and recipient
blacklisting.  ORF of course is a very limited spam blocking tool at
the moment and not appropriate for such needs.

I'm still thinking about approaching IMail for a solution to recipient
blacklisting on gatewayed domains using an 'everything but'
methodology.  How unrealistic do you think that would be???  It might
just be easier to ask VAMSoft for CMDSPACE header logging and dealing
with the two separate pieces of technology.

Matt


Sanford Whiteman wrote:

  
With  a recent IMail release, you can now set up peering to use RCPT
TO  to  test  incoming  messages for valid senders.

  
  
Right,  but  the resulting envelope behavior is not different from the
old VRFY scenario, AFAIK.

  
  
As  long  as  IMail  does envelope rejection for peered domains that
fail  validation,  this setup should work.

  
  
There's  never  been  real-time validation and rejection with peering.
With just IMail servers, the idea is that a message can enter a "farm"
of peers and will only be bounced (not rejected) after the message has
been  spooled and delivery attempted at every peer. Once you add an MS
SMTP server into the mix, you only have one-way peering.

Maybe  I'm  not  clear  on  what you're suggesting, but I don't see it
shedding any light on your issue.

--Sandy



Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist
Broadleaf Systems, a division of
Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SpamAssassin plugs into Declude!
http://www.mailmage.com/download/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/Release/

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


  


-- 
=
MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro.
http://www.mailpure.com/software/
=




Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Passing weight to Externalplus test

2004-04-08 Thread Matt




Scott,

FYI, in testing I found that the %WEIGHT% is being passed in, however
it seems to be 500 points higher than in reality, with all the weights
showing up as being between 500 and 600 over the space of my test.

Thanks,

Matt



Matt wrote:

  
  
Scott,
  
I've been playing with this for a bit now and it seems that the weight
isn't being passed as %WEIGHT%, or maybe it is strangely formatted.
  
My script now uses two values, the first being the current weight in
Declude, and the second being the SKIPIFWEIGHT equivalent.  The
following line doesn't work (test never returns a result):
  SIZE-S    external   13  "cscript
C:\IMail\Declude\Size.vbs //NoLogo //T:2 %WEIGHT% 28"    0    0
  
  
However the following line does work (script always returns a result):
  SIZE-S    external   13  "cscript
C:\IMail\Declude\Size.vbs //NoLogo //T:2 10 28"    0    0

  
Here's the source of the Size.vbs file for reference:
  If WScript.arguments(0) >= WScript.arguments(1)
Then
    WScript.Quit(0)
Else
    Dim objFSO, objFile

    Set objFSO = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
    Set objFile = objFSO.GetFile(WScript.arguments(2))

    If objFile.size < 512 Then
        WScript.Quit(11) 'SIZE-XXS [0 KB - 0.5 KB]
    ElseIF objFile.size < 1024 Then
        WScript.Quit(12) 'SIZE-XS [0.5 KB - 1 KB]
    ElseIF objFile.size < 30720 Then
        WScript.Quit(13) 'SIZE-S [1 KB - 30 KB]
    ElseIF objFile.size < 102400 Then
        WScript.Quit(14) 'SIZE-M [30 KB - 100 KB]
    ElseIF objFile.size < 307200 Then
        WScript.Quit(15) 'SIZE-L [100 KB - 300 KB]
    ElseIF objFile.size < 1024000 Then
        WScript.Quit(16) 'SIZE-XL [300 KB - 1,000 KB]
    ElseIf objFile.size >= 1024000 Then
        WScript.Quit(17) 'SIZE-XXL [1,000+ KB]
    Else
        WScript.Quit(0)
    End If

    Set objFile = nothing
    Set objFSO = nothing
End If
  
  
Could you take a look at this when you get a chance.
  
Thanks,
  
Matt
  
  
  
R. Scott Perry wrote:
  
Is there another variable available like
%CURRENTWEIGHT% that could be used for this purpose (whatever
SKIPIFWEIGHT uses)? 


There is now an interim 1.79i3 at http://www.declude.com/interim
that
changes the %WEIGHT% variable so that it will include the current
weight if it is used before the total weight is calculated. 

   -Scott 
--- 
Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers
since 2000. 
Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in
mailserver vulnerability detection. 
Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. 

--- 
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]


--- 
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To 
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and 
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found 
at http://www.mail-archive.com.



  
  
  -- 
=
MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro.
http://www.mailpure.com/software/
=


-- 
=
MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro.
http://www.mailpure.com/software/
=