RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is Tqmcube.com dead???

2008-02-21 Thread Shayne Embry
 
Very interesting. I just picked up on this discussion.

What makes it interesting to me is that I received a DNSstuff RBLalert last 
night
that said one of my IPs was listed on TQM-CHINA, TQM-DYNAMIC, TQM-SOUTHKOREA, 
and TQM-SPAMTRAP.

First time I've ever gotten an alert since joining a year ago.

Went to www.tqmcube.com and checked; came up clean.

Shayne


 Original Message 
> From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 4:50 PM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is Tqmcube.com dead???
> 
> Interesting news, David. And thanks for the tip about Al's blog.
> 
> I think "fixed" is an overstatement.
> 
> I just tested 8 IP addresses that were previously listed in January in
> the DHCP or SPAMTRAP RBL, plus three longtime Chinese IP addresses in
> the PRC, and none of them are listed right now.
> 
> I don't expect that the problems posted to the newsgroups, nor the DNS
> server timeouts and refusals I saw last night are going to get any
> better, so this RBL provider is going to stay out of my global.cfg file.
> 
> 
> Andrew.
>  
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> > Behalf Of David Barker
> > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 10:05 AM
> > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is Tqmcube.com dead???
> > 
> > 
> > Just an FYI
> > 
> > TQM cube is back up and running. Rumor has it that someone 
> > poisoned their
> > DNS cache. They've since gone in and fixed it.
> > 
> > David Barker
> > VP Operations Declude
> > Your Email security is our business
> > 978.499.2933 x 7007 office
> > 978.988.1311 fax
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> > Behalf Of Chuck
> > Schick
> > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:06 AM
> > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is Tqmcube.com dead???
> > 
> > We are seeing this on the dhcp.tqmcube.com - that is the only 
> > one we were
> > running.  
> > 
> > It is very inconsistent.  Contrary to their message not every email is
> > returning a hit.  I turned the test off for now.
> > 
> > Chuck Schick
> > Warp 8, Inc.
> > (303)-421-5140
> > www.warp8.com 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> > Behalf Of Colbeck,
> > Andrew
> > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 12:58 AM
> > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is Tqmcube.com dead???
> > 
> > Chuck, was it just the prc.tqmcube.com that returned these?
> > 
> > I see on their own RBL checker web page that only the 
> > "Peoples Republic of
> > China" zone returns this error.
> > 
> > When I query their servers for a few test IPs, including 
> > 127.0.0.2, I don't
> > get an error or a positive response, everything fails. I've 
> > also tested
> > based on their "current dirty 12" list... and what I get is either a
> > "non-existent domain" or a "query refused" response.
> > 
> > Going back to my logs, the last hits I notice are on January 
> > 20 2007, for
> > the DHCP and the TRAP lists. The lists have been either 
> > underperformers or
> > have been down. Check it out like this:
> > 
> > grep -c TQM dec*.log
> > 
> > I see a lot of days with zero hits.
> > 
> > It looks like they're the latest RBL to throw in the towel.
> > 
> > 
> > Andrew.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> > > Chuck
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:57 PM
> > > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Is Tqmcube.com dead???
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I started seeing these in the headers of messages today.
> > > 
> > > "Tqmcube.com is dead - all queries positive to stop people 
> > from using 
> > > it - you risk loosing all mail unless you stop"
> > > 
> > > There web site looks the same but I am getting this return 
> > from them.  
> > > Weird and unprofessional.
> > > 





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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is Tqmcube.com dead???

2008-02-21 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Interesting news, David. And thanks for the tip about Al's blog.

I think "fixed" is an overstatement.

I just tested 8 IP addresses that were previously listed in January in
the DHCP or SPAMTRAP RBL, plus three longtime Chinese IP addresses in
the PRC, and none of them are listed right now.

I don't expect that the problems posted to the newsgroups, nor the DNS
server timeouts and refusals I saw last night are going to get any
better, so this RBL provider is going to stay out of my global.cfg file.


Andrew.
 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of David Barker
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 10:05 AM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is Tqmcube.com dead???
> 
> 
> Just an FYI
> 
> TQM cube is back up and running. Rumor has it that someone 
> poisoned their
> DNS cache. They've since gone in and fixed it.
> 
> David Barker
> VP Operations Declude
> Your Email security is our business
> 978.499.2933 x 7007 office
> 978.988.1311 fax
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Chuck
> Schick
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:06 AM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is Tqmcube.com dead???
> 
> We are seeing this on the dhcp.tqmcube.com - that is the only 
> one we were
> running.  
> 
> It is very inconsistent.  Contrary to their message not every email is
> returning a hit.  I turned the test off for now.
> 
> Chuck Schick
> Warp 8, Inc.
> (303)-421-5140
> www.warp8.com 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Colbeck,
> Andrew
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 12:58 AM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is Tqmcube.com dead???
> 
> Chuck, was it just the prc.tqmcube.com that returned these?
> 
> I see on their own RBL checker web page that only the 
> "Peoples Republic of
> China" zone returns this error.
> 
> When I query their servers for a few test IPs, including 
> 127.0.0.2, I don't
> get an error or a positive response, everything fails. I've 
> also tested
> based on their "current dirty 12" list... and what I get is either a
> "non-existent domain" or a "query refused" response.
> 
> Going back to my logs, the last hits I notice are on January 
> 20 2007, for
> the DHCP and the TRAP lists. The lists have been either 
> underperformers or
> have been down. Check it out like this:
> 
> grep -c TQM dec*.log
> 
> I see a lot of days with zero hits.
> 
> It looks like they're the latest RBL to throw in the towel.
> 
> 
> Andrew.
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> > Chuck
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:57 PM
> > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Is Tqmcube.com dead???
> > 
> > 
> > I started seeing these in the headers of messages today.
> > 
> > "Tqmcube.com is dead - all queries positive to stop people 
> from using 
> > it - you risk loosing all mail unless you stop"
> > 
> > There web site looks the same but I am getting this return 
> from them.  
> > Weird and unprofessional.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sent via the WebMail system at mail.warp8.com
> > 
> > 
> >  
> >
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo Blocking Email

2008-02-21 Thread Matt
Note that even though they ask if you are using DomainKey, this does 
nothing to get you whitelisted, it's only them promoting their sender 
verification scheme.


I've said this for 4 years now.  Sender verification is useless, and it 
is likely to only cause problems.  The vast majority of senders that 
have either SPF or DomainKey are spammers.  Those that fail SPF or 
DomainKey are often enough forwarded or coming from something like a 
contact app on a website that inserts the sender.  It's not worth the 
trouble, and you or someone else is much more likely to block legitimate 
E-mail.   Yahoo won't whitelist you if you are using them.


Matt



Robert Grosshandler wrote:

More.  Yahoo has whitelisting, and really cares about reverse DNS pointers
and Domain Keys.  You might want to resubmit, they were fast for us way back
when.

Rob

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck,
Andrew
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 12:01 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo Blocking Email

And as a further best practice to what Matt is advising, I'll mention
that ideally you want to send all outbound mail from an IP that is
different from your inbound gateways. And that your outbound bulk mail
would be separate from both.


Andrew.

 

  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of Matt

Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 9:41 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo Blocking Email


I did this once about a year and a half ago for a client and they 
responded fairly quickly, but the full process took about a 
month before 
they whitelisted it.


If you are bulk mailing from your hosted mail server, you 
need to stop.  
Never send bulk E-mail from a hosted mail server, and it is 
also good to 
use a different domain for bulk mailing.  I'm not saying that is the 
case here, but bulk mailing can trip Yahoo.


In the mean time, you might want to see if you can just 
switch your IP 
address to see if that will work.


Matt



Dave Beckstrom wrote:


Hi All,

Has anyone figured out how to stop Yahoo from blocking 
  

email?  They've

blocked all email from our servers for about 3 weeks.  I've 
  

submitted their


forms but it hasn't done any good.

Dave




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo Blocking Email

2008-02-21 Thread Dave Beckstrom
Rob,

We are using domain keys and reverse DNS as well as SPF records.  Do you
have a link to where I would request the whitelisting?

Dave

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert
> Grosshandler
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 12:21 PM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo Blocking Email
> 
> More.  Yahoo has whitelisting, and really cares about reverse DNS pointers
> and Domain Keys.  You might want to resubmit, they were fast for us way
back
> when.
> 
> Rob
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Colbeck,
> Andrew
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 12:01 PM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo Blocking Email
> 
> And as a further best practice to what Matt is advising, I'll mention
> that ideally you want to send all outbound mail from an IP that is
> different from your inbound gateways. And that your outbound bulk mail
> would be separate from both.
> 
> 
> Andrew.
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Matt
> > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 9:41 AM
> > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo Blocking Email
> >
> >
> > I did this once about a year and a half ago for a client and they
> > responded fairly quickly, but the full process took about a
> > month before
> > they whitelisted it.
> >
> > If you are bulk mailing from your hosted mail server, you
> > need to stop.
> > Never send bulk E-mail from a hosted mail server, and it is
> > also good to
> > use a different domain for bulk mailing.  I'm not saying that is the
> > case here, but bulk mailing can trip Yahoo.
> >
> > In the mean time, you might want to see if you can just
> > switch your IP
> > address to see if that will work.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave Beckstrom wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > Has anyone figured out how to stop Yahoo from blocking
> > email?  They've
> > > blocked all email from our servers for about 3 weeks.  I've
> > submitted their
> > > forms but it hasn't done any good.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo Blocking Email

2008-02-21 Thread Robert Grosshandler
More.  Yahoo has whitelisting, and really cares about reverse DNS pointers
and Domain Keys.  You might want to resubmit, they were fast for us way back
when.

Rob

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck,
Andrew
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 12:01 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo Blocking Email

And as a further best practice to what Matt is advising, I'll mention
that ideally you want to send all outbound mail from an IP that is
different from your inbound gateways. And that your outbound bulk mail
would be separate from both.


Andrew.

 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 9:41 AM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo Blocking Email
> 
> 
> I did this once about a year and a half ago for a client and they 
> responded fairly quickly, but the full process took about a 
> month before 
> they whitelisted it.
> 
> If you are bulk mailing from your hosted mail server, you 
> need to stop.  
> Never send bulk E-mail from a hosted mail server, and it is 
> also good to 
> use a different domain for bulk mailing.  I'm not saying that is the 
> case here, but bulk mailing can trip Yahoo.
> 
> In the mean time, you might want to see if you can just 
> switch your IP 
> address to see if that will work.
> 
> Matt
> 
> 
> 
> Dave Beckstrom wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Has anyone figured out how to stop Yahoo from blocking 
> email?  They've
> > blocked all email from our servers for about 3 weeks.  I've 
> submitted their
> > forms but it hasn't done any good.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> >
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is Tqmcube.com dead???

2008-02-21 Thread David Barker
Just an FYI

TQM cube is back up and running. Rumor has it that someone poisoned their
DNS cache. They've since gone in and fixed it.

David Barker
VP Operations Declude
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 x 7007 office
978.988.1311 fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck
Schick
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:06 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is Tqmcube.com dead???

We are seeing this on the dhcp.tqmcube.com - that is the only one we were
running.  

It is very inconsistent.  Contrary to their message not every email is
returning a hit.  I turned the test off for now.

Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
(303)-421-5140
www.warp8.com 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck,
Andrew
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 12:58 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is Tqmcube.com dead???

Chuck, was it just the prc.tqmcube.com that returned these?

I see on their own RBL checker web page that only the "Peoples Republic of
China" zone returns this error.

When I query their servers for a few test IPs, including 127.0.0.2, I don't
get an error or a positive response, everything fails. I've also tested
based on their "current dirty 12" list... and what I get is either a
"non-existent domain" or a "query refused" response.

Going back to my logs, the last hits I notice are on January 20 2007, for
the DHCP and the TRAP lists. The lists have been either underperformers or
have been down. Check it out like this:

grep -c TQM dec*.log

I see a lot of days with zero hits.

It looks like they're the latest RBL to throw in the towel.


Andrew.



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Chuck
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:57 PM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Is Tqmcube.com dead???
> 
> 
> I started seeing these in the headers of messages today.
> 
> "Tqmcube.com is dead - all queries positive to stop people from using 
> it - you risk loosing all mail unless you stop"
> 
> There web site looks the same but I am getting this return from them.  
> Weird and unprofessional.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent via the WebMail system at mail.warp8.com
> 
> 
>  
>
> 
> 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo Blocking Email

2008-02-21 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
And as a further best practice to what Matt is advising, I'll mention
that ideally you want to send all outbound mail from an IP that is
different from your inbound gateways. And that your outbound bulk mail
would be separate from both.


Andrew.

 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 9:41 AM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo Blocking Email
> 
> 
> I did this once about a year and a half ago for a client and they 
> responded fairly quickly, but the full process took about a 
> month before 
> they whitelisted it.
> 
> If you are bulk mailing from your hosted mail server, you 
> need to stop.  
> Never send bulk E-mail from a hosted mail server, and it is 
> also good to 
> use a different domain for bulk mailing.  I'm not saying that is the 
> case here, but bulk mailing can trip Yahoo.
> 
> In the mean time, you might want to see if you can just 
> switch your IP 
> address to see if that will work.
> 
> Matt
> 
> 
> 
> Dave Beckstrom wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Has anyone figured out how to stop Yahoo from blocking 
> email?  They've
> > blocked all email from our servers for about 3 weeks.  I've 
> submitted their
> > forms but it hasn't done any good.
> >
> > Dave
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo Blocking Email

2008-02-21 Thread Matt

Oh, and one more thing...

If you allow non-mail server port 25 traffic to be sent from within your 
network, you either want to block that entirely, or ensure that it 
doesn't go out from the same IP address as your mail server.  I have 
seen many of my clients end up on lists like XBL because of an infected 
desktop that was NAT'ed to be sent from the same IP as their mail server.


Matt



Dave Beckstrom wrote:

Hi All,

Has anyone figured out how to stop Yahoo from blocking email?  They've
blocked all email from our servers for about 3 weeks.  I've submitted their
forms but it hasn't done any good.

Dave




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo Blocking Email

2008-02-21 Thread Matt
I did this once about a year and a half ago for a client and they 
responded fairly quickly, but the full process took about a month before 
they whitelisted it.


If you are bulk mailing from your hosted mail server, you need to stop.  
Never send bulk E-mail from a hosted mail server, and it is also good to 
use a different domain for bulk mailing.  I'm not saying that is the 
case here, but bulk mailing can trip Yahoo.


In the mean time, you might want to see if you can just switch your IP 
address to see if that will work.


Matt



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Hi All,

Has anyone figured out how to stop Yahoo from blocking email?  They've
blocked all email from our servers for about 3 weeks.  I've submitted their
forms but it hasn't done any good.

Dave




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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo Blocking Email

2008-02-21 Thread Dave Beckstrom
Hi All,

Has anyone figured out how to stop Yahoo from blocking email?  They've
blocked all email from our servers for about 3 weeks.  I've submitted their
forms but it hasn't done any good.

Dave




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is Tqmcube.com dead???

2008-02-21 Thread Chuck Schick
We are seeing this on the dhcp.tqmcube.com - that is the only one we were
running.  

It is very inconsistent.  Contrary to their message not every email is
returning a hit.  I turned the test off for now.

Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
(303)-421-5140
www.warp8.com 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck,
Andrew
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 12:58 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is Tqmcube.com dead???

Chuck, was it just the prc.tqmcube.com that returned these?

I see on their own RBL checker web page that only the "Peoples Republic of
China" zone returns this error.

When I query their servers for a few test IPs, including 127.0.0.2, I don't
get an error or a positive response, everything fails. I've also tested
based on their "current dirty 12" list... and what I get is either a
"non-existent domain" or a "query refused" response.

Going back to my logs, the last hits I notice are on January 20 2007, for
the DHCP and the TRAP lists. The lists have been either underperformers or
have been down. Check it out like this:

grep -c TQM dec*.log

I see a lot of days with zero hits.

It looks like they're the latest RBL to throw in the towel.


Andrew.



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> Chuck
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:57 PM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Is Tqmcube.com dead???
> 
> 
> I started seeing these in the headers of messages today.
> 
> "Tqmcube.com is dead - all queries positive to stop people from using 
> it - you risk loosing all mail unless you stop"
> 
> There web site looks the same but I am getting this return from them.  
> Weird and unprofessional.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent via the WebMail system at mail.warp8.com
> 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is Tqmcube.com dead???

2008-02-21 Thread David Barker
This guy is very good at keeping an eye on RBL's

http://www.dnsbl.com/2007/06/status-of-dnsbltqmcubecom-abandoned.html

David Barker
VP Operations Declude
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 x 7007 office
978.988.1311 fax
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Andrew
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 2:58 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is Tqmcube.com dead???

Chuck, was it just the prc.tqmcube.com that returned these?

I see on their own RBL checker web page that only the "Peoples Republic
of China" zone returns this error.

When I query their servers for a few test IPs, including 127.0.0.2, I
don't get an error or a positive response, everything fails. I've also
tested based on their "current dirty 12" list... and what I get is
either a "non-existent domain" or a "query refused" response.

Going back to my logs, the last hits I notice are on January 20 2007,
for the DHCP and the TRAP lists. The lists have been either
underperformers or have been down. Check it out like this:

grep -c TQM dec*.log

I see a lot of days with zero hits.

It looks like they're the latest RBL to throw in the towel.


Andrew.



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Chuck
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:57 PM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Is Tqmcube.com dead???
> 
> 
> I started seeing these in the headers of messages today.
> 
> "Tqmcube.com is dead - all queries positive to stop people 
> from using it - you risk loosing all mail unless you stop"
> 
> There web site looks the same but I am getting this return 
> from them.  Weird and unprofessional. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent via the WebMail system at mail.warp8.com
> 
> 
>  
>
> 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is Tqmcube.com dead???

2008-02-21 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Chuck, was it just the prc.tqmcube.com that returned these?

I see on their own RBL checker web page that only the "Peoples Republic
of China" zone returns this error.

When I query their servers for a few test IPs, including 127.0.0.2, I
don't get an error or a positive response, everything fails. I've also
tested based on their "current dirty 12" list... and what I get is
either a "non-existent domain" or a "query refused" response.

Going back to my logs, the last hits I notice are on January 20 2007,
for the DHCP and the TRAP lists. The lists have been either
underperformers or have been down. Check it out like this:

grep -c TQM dec*.log

I see a lot of days with zero hits.

It looks like they're the latest RBL to throw in the towel.


Andrew.



> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Chuck
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:57 PM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Is Tqmcube.com dead???
> 
> 
> I started seeing these in the headers of messages today.
> 
> "Tqmcube.com is dead - all queries positive to stop people 
> from using it - you risk loosing all mail unless you stop"
> 
> There web site looks the same but I am getting this return 
> from them.  Weird and unprofessional. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent via the WebMail system at mail.warp8.com
> 
> 
>  
>
> 
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