[Declude.JunkMail] junkmail Actions

2001-11-14 Thread George Peace



Is there any plan or possibility to allow for multiple actions 
for one test? The WEIGHT feature allows great control via multiple tests ... but 
;-) ... different Customers (either domain or user) on a mail server will 
invariably have different requirements. 
 
What I'd find particularly useful would 
be to allow the WEIGHT10 test to be controlled via action in 
*.junkmail definitions rather than global.cfg. Going even further, I can 
make a case for multiple instances of WEIGHT10 for one user or domain something 
like ...
 
    WEIGHT10 DELETE 30
    WEIGHT10 WARN 10
 
 


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] junkmail Actions

2001-11-14 Thread George Peace

Aha!!  That's exactly what I was missing. Thanks! 

>If you want, you can have two different tests defined in the global.cfg file:
>
> WEIGHT10weight  x   x   10  0
> WEIGHT30weight  x   x   30  0

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[Declude.JunkMail] Filter Processing

2002-09-17 Thread George Kulman

Scott,

I have two questions regarding filter processing.

1.  If there are multiple filters listed in the global.cfg are they
processed in the order they're listed?

2.  If there is a match on an item in a filter list does processing
continue against that list?

TIA,

George

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter Processing

2002-09-17 Thread George Kulman

Scott,

For the wish list please - An additional filter type (or flag) that
would exit after the first match.

I've been pretty successful with filtering MAILFROM and, to speed up
processing it would be beneficial if the filter processing could end
after a match. The same would apply to an IP that I'm blocking.  There's
no need to do further processing in this filter since the match has been
made and I'm going to treat the item as SPAM.  This would also enable me
to sequence the list with the most expected matches at the top.

George

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>I have two questions regarding filter processing.
>
>1.  If there are multiple filters listed in the global.cfg are they 
>processed in the order they're listed?

Yes.

>2.  If there is a match on an item in a filter list does processing 
>continue against that list?

Yes, so if the weight of each entry in the filter is 1, an E-mail could 
still end up with a weight higher than 1.
 -Scott

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[Declude.JunkMail] Newbie Question

2002-09-20 Thread George Thompson




Being that I am very new to Declude Junkmail what are the steps in 
order to configure a kill list. I have a kill list so what are the steps in 
order to activate it.
 
Thanks


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Newbie Question

2002-09-20 Thread George Thompson

Does this BLACKLIST need an entry to both glogal.cfg & the junk_mail
configuration file?

Thanks.

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>
> >Being that I am very new to Declude Junkmail what are the steps in order
> >to configure a kill list. I have a kill list so what are the steps in
> >order to activate it.
>
> "Kill List" normally refers to IMail's "kill.lst" file (although some
> people also use it to refer to Declude JunkMail's "Sender Blacklists").
>
> With Declude JunkMail, you would use a Sender Blacklist to handle this --
> the "Your own sender blacklists" section of the manual covers
> it.  Basically, you define the test by adding a line such as:
>
>  MYBLACKLIST fromfile C:\IMail\Declude\badaddresses.txt x 5 0
>
> This will create a new test MYBLACKLIST, that will work like any other
> Declude test (and will count towards the weighting system).  The
> "badaddresses.txt" file would contain any E-mail addresses (or domains,
> such as "@example.com") that you want blacklisted.  Note that this only
> checks the "return address" of the E-mail (where bounce messages go), not
> the "From:" or "Reply-To:" E-mail headers.
> -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spam rec'd using internal return address

2002-09-24 Thread George Kulman

Sharyn,

Do you have the PRO Version of Junkmail?  You can use filters to deal
with IP's, MAILFROM, etc if you do.

It's explained in the manual http://www.declude.com/junkmail/manual.htm 

Also the subject of many threads here.

George

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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] spam rec'd using internal return address


Good morning :)

One of my users is receiving some really disgusting porn email. 

The logs show that the sender is actually using HER address as the
return address. Here is a snip from the IMAIL log:

09:23 23:13 SMTPD(29B2013E) [200.231.59.131] HELO aleph.inbrac.com.br

09:23 23:13 SMTPD(29B2013E) [200.231.59.131] MAIL
FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (this is NOT the IP address of my mail
server)

09:23 23:13 SMTPD(29B2013E) [200.231.59.131] RCPT
TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

09:23 23:13 SMTPD(29B2013E) [200.231.59.131] D:\IMAIL\spool\Dd85c13e.SMD
1329

09:23 23:13 SMTP-(0A84) processing D:\IMAIL\spool\Qd85c13e.SMD

09:23 23:13 SMTP-(0A84) ldeliver todhunter.com scarbo-main (1)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1598

09:23 23:13 SMTP-(0A84) finished D:\IMAIL\spool\Qd85c13e.SMD
status=1

According to the Dec0923.log, the only test this message failed was the
reverse DNS and obviously I don't rely solely on that test to block or
attach spam.

What is the best way to block this? Does Declude blacklist IP addresses
or do I have to do this in IMAIL? Should this post go to the IMAIL users
list? If so, my apologies!

TIA,
Sharyn


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spam rec'd using internal return address

2002-09-24 Thread George Kulman

Analytically correct

George

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question on this filtering..

If I add the following line in myfilter.txt..

Body 0 Contains anal

This will cause any email with the word "analysis" in it to receive
whatever action I've given the test. Correct?

Sharyn 


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[Declude.JunkMail] New Definition of Spam Cop

2002-09-26 Thread George Kulman
Title: Message



I 
really couldn't help laughing at discovering spam this morning through an open 
relay at: mail.kcpd.org
 
Kansas 
City, MO Police Department
 
Where's SPAMCOP when you need them.
 
George 
Kulman
Partner
Ridge 
Systems, L.L.C.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HOPHIGH

2002-09-26 Thread George Kulman

Bill,

Every situation is different.  I use HOPHIGH 4 and I'm very satisfied.
My reasons are:

1.  I have a client who has mail processing issues and I end up relaying
a lot of their inbound and outbound mail.  Since they get about 500
pieces of spam a day I want to get maximum protection and eliminate the
handling of the bounces, which I end up with when their server rejects
them. On the outbound side I get everything after their server gets it's
three tries which means I handle most of their garbage.  I also dump all
my outbound retries to another mail server after three attempts to keep
that load off of the Imail server and to provide deferred messages to
the user which IMail doesn't do (one of my gripes with IMail).

2.  I also have 2 mail servers which can relay to my IMail server.  I've
discovered over time that many e-mail systems do not send to the highest
priority MX but seem to randomly select an MX record so a portion of my
mail comes through the relays even when everything's working just fine.
These situations could be handled by IPBYPASS but things then get
further complicated by mail being forwarded from other e-mail accounts
such as att.net.  These come from a variety of mail servers and I don't
want to have to continually check all of the valid IP's of all of the
forwarders and try to keep that list up to date.

One consideration to keep in mind is that you want to use a robust DNS
server for IMail in this situation since you're going to pound the s---
out of it.  I use a DNS that's dedicated to IMail requests.  I also
force responses from confirmed authoritative DNS's to avoid spoofing,
which means more of a load on my DNS.

George Kulman
Partner
Ridge Systems, L.L.C.



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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HOPHIGH


How affective is scanning at multiple Hops?  I'm not setting HOPHIGH
right now...but I'm currious if the people who are using it are seeing
its benefits, or if it is causing them any problems.

And what is the recommended HOPHIGH setting (assuming HOP is set to
"0")?

Bill


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[Declude.JunkMail] MAILTO Filter Request

2002-09-29 Thread George Kulman

Scott,

There was a question last month (8/28 by Marv Gordon) regarding the
availability of a MAILTO filter which you said wasn't an option right
now.

I'd like to request that you add it to the system as soon as
practicable.  My situation is as follows. I provide mail relay services
for a client.  After their 3 unsuccessful attempts to send undeliverable
and bounce messages to a spammer I end up with the message.  Due to the
need to keep my SMTP retries at a relatively high level of 96 (providing
for 48 hr. service outages for store & forward clients) the
aforementioned relayed undeliverable and bounces sit in my queue and
waste resources and time on each queue run and eventually generate a
meaningless undeliverable  message back to the client I'm relaying for.
(What a run-on sentence that was.) It would be a real benefit to kill
this stuff with a MAILTO filter.

TIA for your consideration of this request.

George Kulman
Partner
Ridge Systems, L.L.C.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] IP Blocking Question? for a NewB

2002-09-29 Thread George Kulman

Steve,

>From the Junkmail Manual:

To blacklist a range of IPs, you can use CIDR style IP ranges. For
example, "127.0.0.0/8" would blacklist all addresses from 127.0.0.0
through 127.255.255.255. "127.0.0.0/24" would blacklist the Class C
range from 127.0.0.0 through 127.0.0.255.

George Kulman
Partner
Ridge Systems, L.L.C.

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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] IP Blocking Question? for a NewB


Hello.
How do I filter a range of IP addresses.
example, this one.
64.49.243.63mail46.thesuperspecialsales.com
64.49.243.115   mail110.thesuperspecialsales.com
I block one then they start using 115, do I have to make a entry for
each ip?

Thanks
Steve.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] MAILTO Filter Request

2002-09-30 Thread George Kulman

Scott,

Thanks very much.

George

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>There was a question last month (8/28 by Marv Gordon) regarding the 
>availability of a MAILTO filter which you said wasn't an option right 
>now.

It will be available in the next beta.  :)
-Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] STOP testing if Blacklist

2002-09-30 Thread George Kulman

Scott,

When you do get to consider this please think about something like STOP
to stop testing further in the individual filter or test, and STOPALL to
stop all further testing. 

Thanks,

George 

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>It would also be great if you could consider adding a stop test 
>consideration.

This (and stopping when a certain weight is reached) are in the
suggestion 
database.

Given that performance is rarely an issue with Declude JunkMail, it
isn't a 
high priority right now, but it is something that we will definitely be 
considering for future releases (we don't like the idea of wasting 
resources if it can be avoided).
-Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] h:routeto

2002-10-02 Thread George Kulman

Roland,

TESTNAMEROUTETO  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Example

BLACKLIST   ROUTETO  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Hi,

what's the correct syntax for the ROUTETO action in JunkMail Pro?

Thanks in advance,
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with directing to specific mail box

2002-10-07 Thread George Kulman

Change the WEIGHT20 in the $default$.junkmail file to read

WEIGHT16ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]

George Kulman
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I have all mail reaching a weighting of 20 being deletedinstead of
deleting the email I want to send it to a specific email account

Any help is greatly appreciatedthanks in advance...

gb

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[Declude.JunkMail] Declude Console Wish List Request

2002-11-15 Thread George Kulman
Scott,

Could you activate horizontal scroll capability for the window.  Even at
full screen there's information that's not visible on the right hand
side and no scroll capability exists.

Thanks,

George Kulman
Partner
Ridge Systems, L.L.C.

Cell   - 201-647-3250 or 516-582-0019
Office - 201-291-0600
Fax- 201-291-8887 

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[Declude.JunkMail] Hop High Testing

2002-11-23 Thread George Kulman
I may be missing something regarding this testing but it doesn't seem to
be working as I understand the manual.  

I'm running 1.62 Junkmail Pro.

The applicable settings in my GLOBAL.CFG are:

HOP 0
HOPHIGH 6

I would expect to see much more reporting if I look at the headers in an
email such as the example below if every hop were processed.  I realize
that this example is still being identified as spam but there are others
that have slipped through in the past.  This is just meant to examine
the multi hop question.

Thanks,

George Kulman
Partner
Ridge Systems, L.L.C.


Other germane GLOBAL.CFG Settings are:

IPBYPASS204.127.131.123

Header follows:

Received: from mtiwgwc13.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.123] by
mail.ridge-systems.com with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-7.13) id A20336700EE; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 11:51:15 -0500
Received: from [200.204.145.51] ([203.91.134.163])
  by mtiwgwc13.worldnet.att.net
  (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with
SMTP
  id
<20021123165055.KOTW432.mtiwgwc13.worldnet.att.net@[200.204.145.51]>
  for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 16:50:55 +
Received: from 155.89.28.179 ([155.89.28.179]) by rly-xw05.mx.aol.com
with smtp; Nov, 23 2002 8:28:06 AM -0800
Received: from 30.215.79.204 ([30.215.79.204]) by m10.grp.snv.yahoo.com
with SMTP; Nov, 23 2002 7:50:07 AM +1200
Received: from 34.57.158.148 ([34.57.158.148]) by rly-xr02.mx.aol.com
with local; Nov, 23 2002 6:27:17 AM +0600
Received: from 82.49.149.76 ([82.49.149.76]) by hd.regsoft.net with
asmtp; Nov, 23 2002 5:49:16 AM +1100
From: qhxvissi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 
Subject: We got a a little dirty but it was all worth  rvx
Sender: qhxvissi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 08:52:30 -0800
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200
Message-Id:
<20021123165055.KOTW432.mtiwgwc13.worldnet.att.net@[200.204.145.51]>
X-RBL-Warning: BHOLE-BRAZIL: Brazil blocked by brazil.blackholes.us
X-RBL-Warning: ROUTING: This E-mail was routed in a poor manner
consistent with spam [210f].
X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 34 reaches or exceeds the limit of
10.
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [200.204.145.51]
X-Declude-Spoolname: Db203036700eee698.SMD
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: BLACKLIST, BHOLE-BRAZIL, IPNOTINMX, ROUTING,
WEIGHT10, WEIGHT16
X-Note: This E-mail was sent from 200-204-145-51.terra.com.br
([200.204.145.51]).
X-Country-Chain: [IANA Reserved]->UNITED
STATES->[Unknown]->URUGUAY->UNITED STATES->destination
X-RCPT-TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Status: U
X-UIDL: 337918260

The declude log entries for this e-mail follow:  (LOGLEVEL HIGH)

11/23/2002 11:52:15 Qb203036700eee698 Triggered filter on uy
[weight->20].
11/23/2002 11:52:15 Qb203036700eee698 BLACKLIST:25 BHOLE-BRAZIL:5
ROUTING:4 .  Total weight = 34
11/23/2002 11:52:15 Qb203036700eee698 Using [incoming] CFG file
D:\IMail\Declude\$default$.junkmail.
11/23/2002 11:52:15 Qb203036700eee698 Msg failed BLACKLIST (Message
failed BLACKLIST test (23)). Action=ROUTETO.
11/23/2002 11:52:15 Qb203036700eee698 Msg failed BHOLE-BRAZIL (Brazil
blocked by brazil.blackholes.us). Action=WARN.
11/23/2002 11:52:15 Qb203036700eee698 Msg failed ROUTING (This E-mail
was routed in a poor manner consistent with spam [210f].).
Action=WARN.
11/23/2002 11:52:15 Qb203036700eee698 Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Weight of 34
reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.). Action=WARN.
11/23/2002 11:52:15 Qb203036700eee698 Msg failed WEIGHT16 (Weight of 34
reaches or exceeds the limit of 16.). Action=ROUTETO.
11/23/2002 11:52:15 Qb203036700eee698 Subject: We got a a little dirty
but it was all worth  rvx
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Unable to get filter to work

2002-11-28 Thread George Kulman
David,

You'll also have to put a line in your $default$.junkmail (and
GLOBAL.CFG for outgoing) if you want to see the test result in the
headers.

George

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Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 8:42 AM
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Unable to get filter to work


Any help appreciated...

I have in my global.cfg file the line

MYFILTER filter "c:\imail\declude\myfilter.txt" x 0 0

myfilter.txt has the following lines

MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS @talk21.com
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS @passport.com
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS @economist.com
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS .ft.com
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS .bbc.co.uk

I hold email on a weight of 30.

I have a test account with talk21.com which normally fails a number of
tests resulting in a total weight of 33. I would have expected the
weight to drop to 23 because of myfilter.txt but it doesn't. I tried
silly numbers as well e.g. -60 but still end up with a total weight o
33. I'm obviously missing something fundamental.

Sent email headers:

Received: from wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com [194.73.242.6] by
mail.nthost.co.uk with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-7.13) id ACAC128E00CC; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:39:56 +
Received: from wmpmtavirtual ([10.216.84.18])
  by wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com with SMTP
  id
<20021128133955.RBKO6682.wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com@wmpmtavirtual>
  for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:39:55 +
Received: from 62.189.235.109 by t21web08-lrs ([10.216.84.18]); Thu, 28
Nov 02 13:30:20 GMT+00:00
X-Mailer: talk21 v1.26 - http://talk21.btopenworld.com
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Talk21Ref: none
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:30:20 GMT+00:00
Subject: SPAM: (No Subject)
Message-Id:
<20021128133955.RBKO6682.wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com@wmpmtavirtual>
X-RBL-Warning: NOPOSTMASTER: Not supporting postmaster@domain
X-RBL-Warning: BADHEADERS: This E-mail was sent from a broken mail
client [804f].
X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a mail server
194.73.242.6 with no reverse DNS entry.
X-RBL-Warning: SNIFFER: Message failed SNIFFER: 4.
X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 33 reaches or exceeds the limit of
10.
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [194.73.242.6]
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail for evidence of
spam.
X-Note: This E-mail was sent from [No Reverse DNS] ([194.73.242.6]).

Thanks in advance.

David




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dan Patnode
Sent: 28 November 2002 08:57
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 usage


I have John.  While Base64 is a great test, a number of newsletters and
normal emails have come across using it.  I have weakened my system to
let these types of messages through and pull my hair out every time a
spam gets through because of it.

Dan


On Wednesday, November 27, 2002 8:02, John Tolmachoff
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Even thought it has been determined that there is no legit REASON to
>use BASE64 encoding in the body, I am finding and increasing use of it.
>
>Most of these are junk, but it has caught a number of legit messages.
>
>Therefore, I have downgraded BASE64 from 15 to 12.
>
>Any one experiencing similar?
>
>John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
>IT Manager, Network Engineer
>RelianceSoft, Inc.
>Fullerton, CA  92835
>www.reliancesoft.com
>
>
>
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Unable to get filter to work

2002-11-28 Thread George Kulman
David,

It would have been nice if I mentioned that the line to be added is:

MYFILTERWARN

George

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Lewis-Waller
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 8:42 AM
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Unable to get filter to work


Any help appreciated...

I have in my global.cfg file the line

MYFILTER filter "c:\imail\declude\myfilter.txt" x 0 0

myfilter.txt has the following lines

MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS @talk21.com
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS @passport.com
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS @economist.com
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS .ft.com
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS .bbc.co.uk

I hold email on a weight of 30.

I have a test account with talk21.com which normally fails a number of
tests resulting in a total weight of 33. I would have expected the
weight to drop to 23 because of myfilter.txt but it doesn't. I tried
silly numbers as well e.g. -60 but still end up with a total weight o
33. I'm obviously missing something fundamental.

Sent email headers:

Received: from wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com [194.73.242.6] by
mail.nthost.co.uk with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-7.13) id ACAC128E00CC; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:39:56 +
Received: from wmpmtavirtual ([10.216.84.18])
  by wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com with SMTP
  id
<20021128133955.RBKO6682.wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com@wmpmtavirtual>
  for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:39:55 +
Received: from 62.189.235.109 by t21web08-lrs ([10.216.84.18]); Thu, 28
Nov 02 13:30:20 GMT+00:00
X-Mailer: talk21 v1.26 - http://talk21.btopenworld.com
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Talk21Ref: none
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:30:20 GMT+00:00
Subject: SPAM: (No Subject)
Message-Id:
<20021128133955.RBKO6682.wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com@wmpmtavirtual>
X-RBL-Warning: NOPOSTMASTER: Not supporting postmaster@domain
X-RBL-Warning: BADHEADERS: This E-mail was sent from a broken mail
client [804f].
X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a mail server
194.73.242.6 with no reverse DNS entry.
X-RBL-Warning: SNIFFER: Message failed SNIFFER: 4.
X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 33 reaches or exceeds the limit of
10.
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [194.73.242.6]
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail for evidence of
spam.
X-Note: This E-mail was sent from [No Reverse DNS] ([194.73.242.6]).

Thanks in advance.

David




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dan Patnode
Sent: 28 November 2002 08:57
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 usage


I have John.  While Base64 is a great test, a number of newsletters and
normal emails have come across using it.  I have weakened my system to
let these types of messages through and pull my hair out every time a
spam gets through because of it.

Dan


On Wednesday, November 27, 2002 8:02, John Tolmachoff
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Even thought it has been determined that there is no legit REASON to
>use BASE64 encoding in the body, I am finding and increasing use of it.
>
>Most of these are junk, but it has caught a number of legit messages.
>
>Therefore, I have downgraded BASE64 from 15 to 12.
>
>Any one experiencing similar?
>
>John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
>IT Manager, Network Engineer
>RelianceSoft, Inc.
>Fullerton, CA  92835
>www.reliancesoft.com
>
>
>
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude JunkMail v1.65 (release)released

2002-12-11 Thread George Kulman
Scott,

You said that the existing config files will work but are there any
additional options and features available?

The biggest issue I have with each release is going through the config, eml,
etc. files and looking for additions and changes.  Could you possibly put
this info in the release notes in the future.

George

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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude JunkMail v1.65 (release)released



> With this in mind, do we just replace the Declude.exe file or 
>do we need to execute it from the command line and stop and restart 
>SMTP for Imail?

All you need to do is replace the \IMail\Declude.exe file; you don't need 
to do anything else.

If you can't copy the new one in, you can rename the old one to 
Declude.bak, and then you will be able to copy the new Declude.exe file in.
 -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Pots & Kettles in the Clair de Lune

2003-01-09 Thread George Kulman
They belong on the same list as Citicorp & its subsidiaries.

George


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sanford Whiteman
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Pots & Kettles in the Clair de Lune


All,

A  noteworthy  encounter  with  the  officious  admin of a combination
draconian/broken  server.  I  think my state of mind will be picked up
pretty  quickly  from  the following snippet. IPs and hosts changed to
protect  the not-so-innocent--including us, since I did screw up, too, but
STILL...

>> ...our  firewall  does a reverse lookup. mail.clientco.com resolves 
>> as  1.1.1.1...Since  these  two  IP  addresses  do  not  match, our 
>> firewall rejects the connection...
> 
> This  strict  constraint is certainly not evident from the 421 message 
> returned by your server.
> 
> Moreover,  your  own mail servers do not meet this requirement! Your 
> mail server at 2.2.2.2 uses EHLO text--
> 
> EHLO [3.3.3.3]
> 
> --a violation of your own requirement, since the PTR, ptr.draco.com, 
> does  not  even  have  an A record at all. If ClientCo employed your 
> policy, *they* would reject *your* mail!
> 
> This  EHLO  is  also  a  violation of RFC 2821, which states that an 
> address  literal is only allowed if a host has no name (3.3.3.3 does 
> have  a PTR record, and therefore does have a name), and a violation 
> of the common test to see if EHLO and PTR match (since a PTR cannot, 
> by definition, resolve to an address literal).
>
> Though  I  appreciate  the  anti-spam utility of deeply verifying EHLO 
> arguments,  returning  a  4xx  code  rather  than a 5xx undermines any 
> "educational"  utility,  wasting  everybody's  bandwidth  and delaying 
> issue  resolution.  And  if  you  should  have occasion to review this 
> policy  in  the  future,  I do hope you consider that your own systems 
> violate it. :)
> 
> Sincerely yours,
> 
> Sandy

-Sandy



Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist
Broadleaf Systems, a division of
Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
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[Declude.JunkMail] Final Action

2003-01-27 Thread George Kulman
Scott,

I run Junkmail at a log setting of HIGH.  After switching to 166i11 I have
noticed that the last log entry for every e-mail reads "Final Action =
IGNORE".

This is the case even though various tests may show Actions of WARN, COPYTO,
or ROUTETO.  What's the story?

Thanks,

George Kulman
Partner
Ridge Systems, L.L.C.

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[Declude.JunkMail] IPBlacklist CIDR Question

2003-02-02 Thread George Kulman
Scott,

When JunkMail does a CIDR calculation from an entry in ipblacklist.txt file
does it use the actual value of the IP address that is listed or does it
calculate what it believes to be the correct range of addresses?

For example, how would the following entry be interpreted?

216.162.101.110/27

A. from 216.162.101.110 to 216.162.101.141 or

B. from 216.192.101.96 to 216.162.101.127

TIA,

George Kulman
Partner
Ridge Systems, L.L.C.


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[Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Enhancement

2003-02-02 Thread George Kulman
Scott,

I find that HiJack catches a meaningful amount of SPAM for the store and
forward domains and probably also helps out on Dictionary Attacks as well.
It seems like some spammers deliberately target secondary MX's with the
thought that they can sneak stuff through more easily.  

It appears that HiJack keeps it records in memory and, if there's a restart
on Declude.exe the statistics are reset.  If this is a correct
interpretation, would it be possible to maintain this data in a editable
file which would be loaded by HiJack on a restart?  Also to add a
"persistence parameter" that would enable us to set a time period for
retention of entries in the file, 10 days for example.  That would keep the
list from growing infinitely.

George Kulman
Partner
Ridge Systems, L.L.C.


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] IPBlacklist CIDR Question

2003-02-02 Thread George Kulman
Thanks

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 9:12 AM
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IPBlacklist CIDR Question



>When JunkMail does a CIDR calculation from an entry in ipblacklist.txt 
>file does it use the actual value of the IP address that is listed or 
>does it calculate what it believes to be the correct range of 
>addresses?

It calculates the full range of addresses.  So:

>For example, how would the following entry be interpreted?
>
>216.162.101.110/27
>
>A. from 216.162.101.110 to 216.162.101.141 or
>
>B. from 216.192.101.96 to 216.162.101.127

This would be treated as B.  That way, if you have an IP, you can enter it 
and the CIDR range without having to make sure that it is set up properly 
(so you can enter "192.0.2.25/24" and get the whole 192.0.2.0-192.0.2.255 
range without having to change it to "192.0.2.0/24").
 -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Enhancement

2003-02-02 Thread George Kulman
Thanks again Scott.

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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Enhancement



>I find that HiJack catches a meaningful amount of SPAM for the store 
>and forward domains and probably also helps out on Dictionary Attacks 
>as well. It seems like some spammers deliberately target secondary MX's 
>with the thought that they can sneak stuff through more easily.

Yes, many spammers have caught on that sending to secondary MX's makes it 
more likely that the E-mail will not get caught.

>It appears that HiJack keeps it records in memory and, if there's a 
>restart on Declude.exe the statistics are reset.

Correct.

>If this is a correct interpretation, would it be possible to maintain 
>this
>data in a editable
>file which would be loaded by HiJack on a restart?  Also to add a
>"persistence parameter" that would enable us to set a time period for
>retention of entries in the file, 10 days for example.  That would keep the
>list from growing infinitely.

That's a very good idea -- I'll see if we can incorporate that into Declude 
Hijack.
 -Scott

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[Declude.JunkMail] Filter Question

2003-02-02 Thread George Kulman
Hi Scott,

Nothing like a quiet Sunday morning to get the questions going.

I have a filter question and will use the following header to explain.  The
e-mail is being handled correctly by JunkMail according to the GLOBAL.CFG
settings

I would like to be able to filter on the domain names of mailservers in the
chain. In this case I would like to have an entry such as 

WHATEVER CONTAINS .aebolts.com (Where WHATEVER is a valid filter screening
criteria for the mailservers in the chain).  I know I can use HEADER for
this but is there a parameter I've missed that would let me have these
checked as JunkMail is parsing to do its thing on each of the hops.  I have
HOPHIGH 6 in my GLOBAL.CFG.

I realize that this particular piece of SPAM has been identified as such by
many other tests, but that's not the question here.

As always, thanks for the time.

George Kulman
Partner
Ridge Systems, L.L.C.

Example Header follows:
***

Received: from mtiwmhc14.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.114] by
mail.ridge-systems.com with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-7.13) id A1E0250252; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 09:57:36 -0500
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter Question

2003-02-02 Thread George Kulman
Scott,

OK.  I'll leave you alone for the rest of today .

BTW, HiJack has trapped over 500 pieces of SPAM this weekend for 2 domains
whose Primary MX's have been up and running the entire time.  JunkMail got
another 400+ for 1 of those domains.  Just shows how the spammers are going
after the secondary MX's.

George

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>I would like to be able to filter on the domain names of mailservers in 
>the chain. In this case I would like to have an entry such as
>
>WHATEVER CONTAINS .aebolts.com (Where WHATEVER is a valid filter 
>screening criteria for the mailservers in the chain).  I know I can use 
>HEADER for this but is there a parameter I've missed that would let me 
>have these checked as JunkMail is parsing to do its thing on each of 
>the hops.  I have HOPHIGH 6 in my GLOBAL.CFG.

No, there isn't any other parameter aside from HEADERS that you could 
filter on in this case.  Although Declude JunkMail does look at the server 
names, the only one it cares about is one corresponding to the remote 
mailserver (the HELO parameter in filtering).

In this case, I would recommend using something like:

 HEADERS  5  CONTAINS  .aebolts.com (

Adding the "(" there should prevent virtually all other headers from 
triggering the filter (for example, you could have "Subject: We have to do 
something about these .aebolts.com E-mails!" that wouldn't get 
caught).  It's not quite as accurate as it would be if there was a 
parameter that just searched the server names, but it's pretty close.
 -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Tuning Declude

2003-02-13 Thread George Kulman
Dan,

I feel that this is as much art as science and that there's no simple 'one
size fits all' solution.  I haven't done any hard statistical testing but
here's my setup.

I use the JunkMail default weightings and find that a WEIGHT of 16 gives
very few false positives, probably less than 1 in a thousand, so I class of
that all as SPAM and HOLD IT.  I do a cursory manual review once a day
before deleting them.  I COPYTO an analysis address (similar to your
jmillionaire) all with a WEIGHT of 10 to 15 for evaluation.

I have an IPBLACKLIST file with approx 330 addresses and ranges that I've
developed from the evaluation process.  I use the reverse DNS lookup at
www.samspade.org as a helpful tool for this.  I also have a number of
filters for domains and countries (over 600 entries), mailservers, and
content.  I treat all of these as SPAM when matched.

I have found that each of the domains I process for has a different group of
spammers.  It all depends on what their business is, where they go on the
web, etc.  I'd strongly recommend that you not rely on your single domain
for evaluation but that you use a COPYTO for various tests in all of the
domains you process to get a more accurate feel for what's being processed.
Even if you add a few at a time so that you're not buried in the deluge.  It
took me about a month to get to where I was happy with the result and now
takes about an hour a day to review & stay on top of it.  My volume is a
paltry 10K e-mails a day with about 60% SPAM.

There are many tools available as well as filter lists that you can use as a
starting point - check the Declude web site for Tools.

George Kulman
Partner
Ridge Systems, L.L.C.


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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Tuning Declude


Hello, All,
I've been running Declude.JunkMail for a few days now.

We have about 90 domains on our IMail v6.06 Server.  I have setup
Declude.JunkMail to ignore all of the domains except for one, our in-house
domain NEXUSTECHGROUP.COM.  My $default$.junkmail for NEXUSTECHGROUP.COM
still has all of the default tests enabled.  I have setup a bogus e-mail
address, [EMAIL PROTECTED], and for each test my action is
COPYTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] so I can see all of the e-mails that
Declude.JunkMail sees as possible spam.

On my e-mail client I have setup a folder to drop all of the "jmillionaire"
mail into.  As messages are filtered into this folder I divide them into 2
categories, False Positives and True Positives.  For each message I am
tracking which Declude.JunkMail tests those messages are failing which has
given me a sheet full of data which looks something like this...



False Positives
===

BADHEADERS II
BASE64  I
DSBL  I
HELOBOGUS III
IPNOTINMX III
MAILFROM I
MONKEYPROXIES I
NOABUSE  
NOPOSTMASTER II
OSSRC  
REVDNS  I
ROUTING  III
SPAMCOP  I
SPAMHEADERS 
WEIGHT10 I
WEIGHT20 I
WIREHUB-DNSBL II

True Positives
==

BADHEADERS I
DSBL  I
HELOBOGUS III
IPNOTINMX III
MONKEYPROXIES I
NOPOSTMASTER I
OSPROXY  I
REVDNS  
SPAMCOP  I
WEIGHT10 III
WEIGHT20 I
WIREHUB-DNSBL I



This data sheet allows me to see which tests are catching a lot of False
Positives.  (Note: From reading the Manual I'm aware that IPNOTINMX will
catch a lot of false positives but that it can be used when weighting comes
into play)  Has anyone else done it this way?

So in the above example I can see that IPNOTINMX is catching a heck of a lot
of FALSE POSITIVES.  If I was trying to minimize the amount of FALSE
POSITIVES I could switch that to IGNORE and then I could start tracking
message again and see if my True Positive numbers stay up while my False
Positive number go down.

Anyway, just using the tests themselves without any sort of weighting seems
to be a heavy-handed way of doing things so obviously I would like to bring
weighting into the picture but I am at sort of an impasse in my knowledge so
I'm reaching out to the group.

Quandry #1) How to use Declude.JunkMail to weight messages from a technical
standpoint

I understand the concept of weighting the e-mails from an abstract level but
it's not clear to me from a technical level how Declude implements it. There
are big holes in my understanding of the purpose of the global.cfg vs. the
$default$.junkmail files.  Is there a step-by-step breakdown of each line of
global.cfg somewhere that I can read?  I've been reading the JunkMail Manual
and it makes mention of different entries as needed but there doesn't seem
to be a comprehensive explanation of the cfg as a whole.

Once I understand what each line in the cfg does I

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Can someone help me get this blocked?

2003-02-23 Thread George Kulman
Title: Message



Marc,
 
You 
can use a filter (well documented as far as how to set them up) with an entry 
of
 
HEADERS 10 CONTAINS 
 
which 
will add a weight of 10.
 
George

  
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  [Declude.JunkMail] Can someone help me get this blocked?
  
  These of e-mails have been 
  flooding my hold folder.  I’m running Declude pro.  I have a delete 
  weight of 40 and a hold weight of 30.  All this spam has been right 
  between.  Is there something I can add to either bump up this weight by 
  about 7 or is there something unique in here that I can filter upon that I 
  don’t see?
   
  It has been coming from random IPs 
  and the sender has been “salestoday(random crap)@lycos”.   I was 
  thinking of bouncing anything from @lycos but this will result in many bounced 
  messages that won’t get delivered.  And I’m not sure I just want to 
  delete anything from lycos.
   
  Any suggestions would be greatly 
  appreciated.
   
  Marc
   
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