Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
So, declude will turn out to be the biggest winner in fprot price increase! Hope it is not declude that alerted frisk about how fprot is beiing used :) Anyway, I do not care, i have a perpetual license. - Original Message - From: "John T (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:06 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing Declude Suite now includes an integrated AVG scanner as part of the price of the Suite. John T eServices For You "Seek, and ye shall find!" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AlamoHost Admin Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 1:37 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing > Is the subscription to AVG part of Declude now or does the user need > to purchase a subscription from AVG in order to get definition > updates? The prices for the AVG mail server version isn't much better than F-Prot. They only list prices up to 100 mailboxes - $1,030 for 2 years. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
Nick, One other thing about this. It's not the scan time that is the most important, it's the CPU utilization. As it turns out, they are roughly related, and clearly clamdscan and F-Prot are the best performers by a mile. Back when I did my tests of these things, those two ran neck and neck, hardly registering any load, and then with a big jump, McAfee and AVG were third and fourth best. I have minimized the affects by doing AV scanning after the JunkMail scanning, which is behind an Alligate gateway, so many fewer messages get scanned for viruses, but still AV scanning is a major contributer to overall load. Matt Nick Hayer wrote: David Barker wrote: Declude has this process and functionality built in to the Declude product which enables customers to use a command line scanners like ClamWin Brian Burns port called ClamAV supports clamd which is wicked fast [and free]. This is a different product from ClamWin. I had done some comparison on the scanners - and had sent this to the Declude Virus list: "I just switched to 4x and noticed in the logs that scan times are recorded - here are some sample scan times against the same email - 2062ms Clamscan 468ms Mcafee scan.exe 171ms fprot These relative scan time proportional differences appear to remain the same against other emails. Switching from clamscan.exe to clamdscan.exe ClamAV averages 15ms against all emails it sees. That is like a factor of 10 faster than fprot its closest performance competitor. Since its free and w/Sanesecurity phish sigs I give it an editors choice :) It would be nice to see [feature request?] the ms response time for AVG - " -Nick --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
You can still get defs (for now at least), but
without a valid current license it wouldn't be legal.
Darin.
- Original Message -
From: Nick
Hayer
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
Sorry but I have not been keeping up w/this thread - we no
longer can use the desktop fpcmd.exe as we have been w/Declude without paying
alot more $$? Can we use the version we have and still get
defs?-NickMatt wrote:
F-Prot
doesn't care. They don't do volume as a plug-in to mail servers, they do
it through desktop software. F-Prot now has a software product for
Exchange and their own spam and virus blocking gateway service offering.
Considering how cheap the client is, losing those sales is insubstantial to
them. It is true that they could have charged something more reasonable,
especially considering that none of us are getting rich doing this stuff and
every extra penny spent comes out of our pockets and not that of our clients,
but so be it. Most probably wouldn't have paid anything more than a
couple of hundred dollars for their product regardless, so $500 or $5,000 is
all the same in effect.MattDave Beckstrom wrote:
I think everyone on this list
should email them telling them that you are not renewing. I dont
think they have any idea of how much business they will lose. If 100
people email them it may wake them up. I wouldnt hold my breath on
that, but it cant hurt to try.
From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of GlobalWeb.net
WebmasterSent: Monday,
July 17, 2006 1:37 PMTo:
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot
Licensing
we're looking into
changing now also - there's no way we can afford to keep F-Prot at those
rates..
I just do not
understand why greed always has to set in when a product comes out that
works great and is hassle free. We've never had to contact them in the
5-6 years of using them for any issues at all.
Sincerely,Randy ArmbrechtGlobal Web
Solutions, Inc.804-346-5300 x112877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112http://globalweb.net
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Dave
BeckstromSent: Monday,
July 17, 2006 2:22 PMTo:
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
F-Prot Licensing
I sent an email to F-Prot
telling them that I am not renewing because of their price change.
They replied back basically saying they didnt care and
audios.
They are going to lose a lot
of customers. I guess they would rather not have a little money from
a lot of customers instead of no money from a few
customers.
From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Scott
FisherSent: Monday, July
17, 2006 9:25 AMTo:
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
F-Prot Licensing
Clamav with the runclamd
service.
Free. Fast. and the
Sanesecurity anti-phish signatures.
- Original Message -
From: Markus
Gufler
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent:
Friday, July 14, 2006 5:33 PM
Subject: RE:
[Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
This pricing is just another way of saying "Go
Away".
Suggestions?
Markus
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
Sorry but I have not been keeping up w/this thread - we no longer can
use the desktop fpcmd.exe as we have been w/Declude without paying alot
more $$? Can we use the version we have and still get defs?
-Nick
Matt wrote:
F-Prot doesn't care. They don't do volume as a plug-in to mail
servers, they do it through desktop software. F-Prot now has a
software product for Exchange and their own spam and virus blocking
gateway service offering. Considering how cheap the client is, losing
those sales is insubstantial to them. It is true that they could have
charged something more reasonable, especially considering that none of
us are getting rich doing this stuff and every extra penny spent comes
out of our pockets and not that of our clients, but so be it. Most
probably wouldn't have paid anything more than a couple of hundred
dollars for their product regardless, so $500 or $5,000 is all the same
in effect.
Matt
Dave Beckstrom wrote:
I think everyone on
this list
should email them telling them that you are not renewing. I don’t
think they have any idea of how much business they will lose. If 100
people email them it may wake them up. I wouldn’t hold my breath on
that, but it can’t hurt to try.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of GlobalWeb.net
Webmaster
Sent: Monday, July
17,
2006 1:37
PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE:
[Declude.JunkMail]
F-Prot Licensing
we're
looking into changing now also -
there's no way we can afford to keep F-Prot at those rates..
I just do
not understand why greed always
has to set in when a product comes out that works great and is hassle
free. We've never had to contact them in the 5-6 years of using them
for
any issues at all.
Sincerely,
Randy Armbrecht
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-346-5300 x112
877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112
http://globalweb.net
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Dave
Beckstrom
Sent: Monday, July
17, 2006 2:22
PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE:
[Declude.JunkMail]
F-Prot Licensing
I sent an email to
F-Prot telling
them that I am not renewing because of their price change. They
replied
back basically saying they didn’t care and audios.
They are going to lose
a lot of
customers. I guess they would rather not have a little money from a
lot
of customers instead of no money from a few customers.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Scott
Fisher
Sent: Monday, July
17, 2006 9:25
AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re:
[Declude.JunkMail]
F-Prot Licensing
Clamav with the runclamd
service.
Free. Fast. and the
Sanesecurity anti-phish
signatures.
- Original Message
-
From: Markus
Gufler
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Friday,
July 14, 2006 5:33 PM
Subject: RE:
[Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
This pricing is just another
way of saying "Go
Away".
Suggestions?
Markus
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
Don Brown wrote: What is the URL to Brian Burns' port? http://www.sosdg.org/clamav-win32/ -Nick Monday, July 17, 2006, 2:05:34 PM, Nick Hayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: NH> David Barker wrote: Declude has this process and functionality built in to the Declude product which enables customers to use a command line scanners like ClamWin NH> NH> Brian Burns port called ClamAV supports clamd which is wicked fast [and NH> free]. This is a different product from ClamWin. NH> I had done some comparison on the scanners - and had sent this to the NH> Declude Virus list: NH> "I just switched to 4x and noticed in the logs that scan times are NH> recorded - NH> here are some sample scan times against the same email - NH> 2062ms Clamscan NH> 468ms Mcafee scan.exe NH> 171ms fprot NH> These relative scan time proportional differences appear to remain the NH> same against other emails. NH> Switching from clamscan.exe to clamdscan.exe ClamAV averages 15ms NH> against all emails it sees. That is like a factor of 10 faster than NH> fprot its closest performance competitor. Since its free and NH> w/Sanesecurity phish sigs I give it an editors choice :) NH> It would be nice to see [feature request?] the ms response time for AVG - " NH> -Nick NH> --- NH> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To NH> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and NH> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found NH> at http://www.mail-archive.com. Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
So it seems that market forces are not causing the price to drop. It is causing the price to increase. There are ever more players in the antivirus market but pricing continues to go up. The market force of "absolute need for antivirus on the mail server" is outweighing the number of companies supplying antivirus command line scanners. What is the breaking point. Kevin Bilbee > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > AlamoHost Admin > Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 1:37 PM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing > > > Is the subscription to AVG part of Declude now or does the user need > > to purchase a subscription from AVG in order to get definition > > updates? > > The prices for the AVG mail server version isn't much better than F- > Prot. > They only list prices up to 100 mailboxes - $1,030 for 2 years. > > > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type > "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at > http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
Your purchase of the security suite includes AVG and all definitions, making it the best bang for the buck out there. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AlamoHost Admin Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 4:37 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing > Is the subscription to AVG part of Declude now or does the user need > to purchase a subscription from AVG in order to get definition > updates? The prices for the AVG mail server version isn't much better than F-Prot. They only list prices up to 100 mailboxes - $1,030 for 2 years. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 7/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 7/14/2006 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
Declude Suite now includes an integrated AVG scanner as part of the price of the Suite. John T eServices For You "Seek, and ye shall find!" > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AlamoHost > Admin > Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 1:37 PM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing > > > Is the subscription to AVG part of Declude now or does the user need > > to purchase a subscription from AVG in order to get definition > > updates? > > The prices for the AVG mail server version isn't much better than F-Prot. > They only list prices up to 100 mailboxes - $1,030 for 2 years. > > > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
Is the subscription to AVG part of Declude now or does the user need to purchase a subscription from AVG in order to get definition updates? The prices for the AVG mail server version isn't much better than F-Prot. They only list prices up to 100 mailboxes - $1,030 for 2 years. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
F-Prot doesn't care. They don't do volume as a plug-in to mail servers, they do it through desktop software. F-Prot now has a software product for Exchange and their own spam and virus blocking gateway service offering. Considering how cheap the client is, losing those sales is insubstantial to them. It is true that they could have charged something more reasonable, especially considering that none of us are getting rich doing this stuff and every extra penny spent comes out of our pockets and not that of our clients, but so be it. Most probably wouldn't have paid anything more than a couple of hundred dollars for their product regardless, so $500 or $5,000 is all the same in effect. Matt Dave Beckstrom wrote: I think everyone on this list should email them telling them that you are not renewing. I don’t think they have any idea of how much business they will lose. If 100 people email them it may wake them up. I wouldn’t hold my breath on that, but it can’t hurt to try. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of GlobalWeb.net Webmaster Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 1:37 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing we're looking into changing now also - there's no way we can afford to keep F-Prot at those rates.. I just do not understand why greed always has to set in when a product comes out that works great and is hassle free. We've never had to contact them in the 5-6 years of using them for any issues at all. Sincerely, Randy Armbrecht Global Web Solutions, Inc. 804-346-5300 x112 877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112 http://globalweb.net From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 2:22 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing I sent an email to F-Prot telling them that I am not renewing because of their price change. They replied back basically saying they didn’t care and audios. They are going to lose a lot of customers. I guess they would rather not have a little money from a lot of customers instead of no money from a few customers. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:25 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing Clamav with the runclamd service. Free. Fast. and the Sanesecurity anti-phish signatures. - Original Message - From: Markus Gufler To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:33 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing This pricing is just another way of saying "Go Away". Suggestions? Markus --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
What is the URL to Brian Burns' port? Monday, July 17, 2006, 2:05:34 PM, Nick Hayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: NH> David Barker wrote: >> Declude has >> this process and functionality built in to the Declude product which enables >> customers to use a command line scanners like ClamWin NH> NH> Brian Burns port called ClamAV supports clamd which is wicked fast [and NH> free]. This is a different product from ClamWin. NH> I had done some comparison on the scanners - and had sent this to the NH> Declude Virus list: NH> "I just switched to 4x and noticed in the logs that scan times are NH> recorded - NH> here are some sample scan times against the same email - NH> 2062ms Clamscan NH> 468ms Mcafee scan.exe NH> 171ms fprot NH> These relative scan time proportional differences appear to remain the NH> same against other emails. NH> Switching from clamscan.exe to clamdscan.exe ClamAV averages 15ms NH> against all emails it sees. That is like a factor of 10 faster than NH> fprot its closest performance competitor. Since its free and NH> w/Sanesecurity phish sigs I give it an editors choice :) NH> It would be nice to see [feature request?] the ms response time for AVG - " NH> -Nick >> NH> --- NH> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To NH> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and NH> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found NH> at http://www.mail-archive.com. Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
Is the subscription to AVG part of Declude now or does the user need to purchase a subscription from AVG in order to get definition updates? Monday, July 17, 2006, 1:32:29 PM, David Barker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: DB> Just a comment on this Licensing thread DB> [Snip] DB> Not to mention AVG which is built into Declude Security Suite, which DB> hopefully customers will now begin to really understand the value and DB> financial benefits to this integration. DB>[Snip] Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
I think everyone on this list should email them telling them that you are not renewing. I don’t think they have any idea of how much business they will lose. If 100 people email them it may wake them up. I wouldn’t hold my breath on that, but it can’t hurt to try. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of GlobalWeb.net Webmaster Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 1:37 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing we're looking into changing now also - there's no way we can afford to keep F-Prot at those rates.. I just do not understand why greed always has to set in when a product comes out that works great and is hassle free. We've never had to contact them in the 5-6 years of using them for any issues at all. Sincerely, Randy Armbrecht Global Web Solutions, Inc. 804-346-5300 x112 877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112 http://globalweb.net From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 2:22 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing I sent an email to F-Prot telling them that I am not renewing because of their price change. They replied back basically saying they didn’t care and audios. They are going to lose a lot of customers. I guess they would rather not have a little money from a lot of customers instead of no money from a few customers. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:25 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing Clamav with the runclamd service. Free. Fast. and the Sanesecurity anti-phish signatures. - Original Message - From: Markus Gufler To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:33 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing This pricing is just another way of saying "Go Away". Suggestions? Markus --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
David Barker wrote: Declude has this process and functionality built in to the Declude product which enables customers to use a command line scanners like ClamWin Brian Burns port called ClamAV supports clamd which is wicked fast [and free]. This is a different product from ClamWin. I had done some comparison on the scanners - and had sent this to the Declude Virus list: "I just switched to 4x and noticed in the logs that scan times are recorded - here are some sample scan times against the same email - 2062ms Clamscan 468ms Mcafee scan.exe 171ms fprot These relative scan time proportional differences appear to remain the same against other emails. Switching from clamscan.exe to clamdscan.exe ClamAV averages 15ms against all emails it sees. That is like a factor of 10 faster than fprot its closest performance competitor. Since its free and w/Sanesecurity phish sigs I give it an editors choice :) It would be nice to see [feature request?] the ms response time for AVG - " -Nick --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
Actually, it looks like they now view us as direct competition to their AVES service and therefore want us to go away. Maybe some McCrappy exec is now working for F-Prot. Very sad. John T eServices For You "Seek, and ye shall find!" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 11:22 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing I sent an email to F-Prot telling them that I am not renewing because of their price change. They replied back basically saying they didn’t care and audios. They are going to lose a lot of customers. I guess they would rather not have a little money from a lot of customers instead of no money from a few customers. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:25 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing Clamav with the runclamd service. Free. Fast. and the Sanesecurity anti-phish signatures. - Original Message - From: Markus Gufler To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:33 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing This pricing is just another way of saying "Go Away". Suggestions? Markus --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
we're looking into changing now also - there's no way we can afford to keep F-Prot at those rates.. I just do not understand why greed always has to set in when a product comes out that works great and is hassle free. We've never had to contact them in the 5-6 years of using them for any issues at all. Sincerely,Randy ArmbrechtGlobal Web Solutions, Inc.804-346-5300 x112877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112http://globalweb.net From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave BeckstromSent: Monday, July 17, 2006 2:22 PMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing I sent an email to F-Prot telling them that I am not renewing because of their price change. They replied back basically saying they didn’t care and audios. They are going to lose a lot of customers. I guess they would rather not have a little money from a lot of customers instead of no money from a few customers. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scott FisherSent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:25 AMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing Clamav with the runclamd service. Free. Fast. and the Sanesecurity anti-phish signatures. - Original Message - From: Markus Gufler To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:33 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing This pricing is just another way of saying "Go Away". Suggestions? Markus ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
Just a comment on this Licensing thread F-Prot like all virus companies charge the extra $ because of the different process used when scanning email as opposed to regular scanning. Declude has this process and functionality built in to the Declude product which enables customers to use a command line scanners like ClamWin to scan their email in the same way, as virus companies mail server versions. Not to mention AVG which is built into Declude Security Suite, which hopefully customers will now begin to really understand the value and financial benefits to this integration. David B www.declude.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 2:22 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing I sent an email to F-Prot telling them that I am not renewing because of their price change. They replied back basically saying they didn't care and audios. They are going to lose a lot of customers. I guess they would rather not have a little money from a lot of customers instead of no money from a few customers. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:25 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing Clamav with the runclamd service. Free. Fast. and the Sanesecurity anti-phish signatures. - Original Message - From: Markus Gufler <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:33 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing This pricing is just another way of saying "Go Away". Suggestions? Markus --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
I sent an email to F-Prot telling them that I am not renewing because of their price change. They replied back basically saying they didn’t care and audios. They are going to lose a lot of customers. I guess they would rather not have a little money from a lot of customers instead of no money from a few customers. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:25 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing Clamav with the runclamd service. Free. Fast. and the Sanesecurity anti-phish signatures. - Original Message - From: Markus Gufler To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:33 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing This pricing is just another way of saying "Go Away". Suggestions? Markus --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
Clamav with the runclamd service. Free. Fast. and the Sanesecurity anti-phish signatures. - Original Message - From: Markus Gufler To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:33 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing This pricing is just another way of saying "Go Away". Suggestions? Markus---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
All of these folks must think that the ISP business is high margin and we're just looking for ways to reduce taxes by paying all of these exorbitant fees. A mind is such a terrible thing to waste . . . Friday, July 14, 2006, 8:59:38 PM, John T (Lists) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: JTL> JTL> JTL> JTL> Sounds like F-Prot has been talking to McCrappy. JTL> JTL> JTL> JTL> JTL> John T JTL> JTL> eServices For You JTL> JTL> JTL> JTL> "Seek, and ye shall find!" JTL> JTL> JTL> JTL> JTL> JTL> -Original Message- JTL> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic JTL> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 4:40 PM JTL> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com JTL> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing JTL> JTL> JTL> JTL> As my kids have become fond of saying JTL> JTL> JTL> JTL> This sucks JTL> JTL> JTL> JTL> JTL> Goran Jovanovic JTL> JTL> Omega Network Solutions JTL> JTL> JTL> JTL> JTL> JTL> --- JTL> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To JTL> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and JTL> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found JTL> at http://www.mail-archive.com. JTL> --- JTL> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To JTL> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and JTL> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found JTL> at http://www.mail-archive.com. JTL> --- JTL> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To JTL> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and JTL> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found JTL> at http://www.mail-archive.com. Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
Let us know what you find, please. Friday, July 14, 2006, 5:48:25 PM, Heimir Eidskrem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: HE> Markus Gufler wrote: >> This pricing is just another way of saying "Go Away". >> Suggestions? >> >> Markus >> >> --- >> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To >> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and >> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found >> at http://www.mail-archive.com. HE> I am going away for sure. HE> Its NO way I will pay that much money to use a command line scanner. HE> There are no difference between the mail server version and the regular HE> version besides the license. HE> Its a rip off. HE> I will NOT spend 1750 bucks on Declude for that matter. HE> I guess I will be busy finding replacements. HE> --- HE> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To HE> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and HE> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found HE> at http://www.mail-archive.com. Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
Title: Message Sounds like F-Prot has been talking to McCrappy. John T eServices For You "Seek, and ye shall find!" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 4:40 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing As my kids have become fond of saying “This sucks” Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
Title: Message As my kids have become fond of saying “This sucks” Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
Title: Message Thanks for the heads up. Saved me from a heart attack when I went to renew in August. I would swear something is following me around related to major price shifts. Webtrends, Lyris, iMail and now my favorite AV product F-Prot. Guess I will be checking the docs and especially the archives for ClamAV and AVG which I have ignored. Pay back Mike ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
Markus Gufler wrote: This pricing is just another way of saying "Go Away". Suggestions? Markus --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. I am going away for sure. Its NO way I will pay that much money to use a command line scanner. There are no difference between the mail server version and the regular version besides the license. Its a rip off. I will NOT spend 1750 bucks on Declude for that matter. I guess I will be busy finding replacements. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
4.2.20 With integrated AVG and included with the Service Agreement / Subscription David B www.declude.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus GuflerSent: Friday, July 14, 2006 6:34 PMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing This pricing is just another way of saying "Go Away". Suggestions? Markus---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
Is "etc" a little one byte special ASCII-char who will disable any blocking mechanism in declude junkmail? Markus From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MattSent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 12:26 AMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing You forgot your hardware, Windows Server license, DNS server to replace the crappy Windows one, backup software, prescanning and address validating E-mail Gateway, multiple plug-ins for Declude, many sleepless nights, etc., etc., etc.MattGary Steiner wrote: Wow! It's like one of those MasterCard commercials. Here's an example server based on list prices: SmarterMail Enterprise Edition (Unlimited Domains and Users) - $899 Declude Security Suite for Smartermail Enterprise (Unlimited Domains) - $1750 Annual Subscription F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers (1000-1999 Users) - $2519 Annual License fee Frisk doesn't even mention a price for Unlimited Users. I guess it's like a Ferrari, if you have to ask how much it costs, you can't afford it. Original Message From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:40 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing I hadn't noticed that before. This webpage is pretty darn explicit, so yes, the pricing you quoted is correct! From the bottom of the page that describes the corporate licences available: http://www.f-prot.com/products/corporate_users/win/ F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers To use the F-Prot Antivirus scanner on a Windows Mail Server a F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers license is required. This license category differs from the general F-Prot Antivirus for Windows for corporate users license in that it covers use that the general license does not: F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers applies to mail servers, mail relays and mail gateways, i.e. computers that provide mail services to a network, either for incoming or for outgoing e-mail. High-quality, efficient virus scanning is essential for any mail server. E-mail is the most common way for viruses and other malware to spread. The most effective way of stopping the spread of malware onto a network and beyond is at the server. F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers includes a Command Line Scanner (fpcmd.exe) that can be used with third party mail server software such as Declude and MailEnable. Information on how to use the software with such programs can be found on www.declude.com and www.mailenable.com . If you are interested in purchasing F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers, please visit our order form and take a look at our price lists . NB: Administrators should read question 113 and question 114 in the FAQ section of our Windows support pages before installing F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers. Andrew 8) _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:00 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing When did Frisk change the licensing for F-prot! They now have a mail server license for windows on number of users pricing? F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers Number of Users Annual license fee 1-24 US$ 269 25-49 US$ 359 50-99 US$ 449 100-199 US$ 719 200-299 US$ 989 300-399 US$ 1259 400-499 US$ 1529 500-749 US$ 1799 750-999 US$ 2069 1000-1999 US$ 2519 2000-2999 US$ 2969 3000-3999 US$ 3419 4000-4999 US$ 3869 5000-5999 US$ 4499 Kevin Bilbee Network Administrator Standard Abrasives, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changing the way industry works. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just s
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
This pricing is just another way of saying "Go Away". Suggestions? Markus ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
You forgot your hardware, Windows Server license, DNS server to replace the crappy Windows one, backup software, prescanning and address validating E-mail Gateway, multiple plug-ins for Declude, many sleepless nights, etc., etc., etc. Matt Gary Steiner wrote: Wow! It's like one of those MasterCard commercials. Here's an example server based on list prices: SmarterMail Enterprise Edition (Unlimited Domains and Users) - $899 Declude Security Suite for Smartermail Enterprise (Unlimited Domains) - $1750 Annual Subscription F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers (1000-1999 Users) - $2519 Annual License fee Frisk doesn't even mention a price for Unlimited Users. I guess it's like a Ferrari, if you have to ask how much it costs, you can't afford it. Original Message From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:40 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing I hadn't noticed that before. This webpage is pretty darn explicit, so yes, the pricing you quoted is correct! From the bottom of the page that describes the corporate licences available: http://www.f-prot.com/products/corporate_users/win/ F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers To use the F-Prot Antivirus scanner on a Windows Mail Server a F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers license is required. This license category differs from the general F-Prot Antivirus for Windows for corporate users license in that it covers use that the general license does not: F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers applies to mail servers, mail relays and mail gateways, i.e. computers that provide mail services to a network, either for incoming or for outgoing e-mail. High-quality, efficient virus scanning is essential for any mail server. E-mail is the most common way for viruses and other malware to spread. The most effective way of stopping the spread of malware onto a network and beyond is at the server. F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers includes a Command Line Scanner (fpcmd.exe) that can be used with third party mail server software such as Declude and MailEnable. Information on how to use the software with such programs can be found on www.declude.com and www.mailenable.com . If you are interested in purchasing F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers, please visit our order form and take a look at our price lists . NB: Administrators should read question 113 and question 114 in the FAQ section of our Windows support pages before installing F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers. Andrew 8) _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:00 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing When did Frisk change the licensing for F-prot! They now have a mail server license for windows on number of users pricing? F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers Number of Users Annual license fee 1-24 US$ 269 25-49 US$ 359 50-99 US$ 449 100-199 US$ 719 200-299 US$ 989 300-399 US$ 1259 400-499 US$ 1529 500-749 US$ 1799 750-999 US$ 2069 1000-1999 US$ 2519 2000-2999 US$ 2969 3000-3999 US$ 3419 4000-4999 US$ 3869 5000-5999 US$ 4499 Kevin Bilbee Network Administrator Standard Abrasives, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changing the way industry works. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
This pricing is just another way of saying "Go Away". Matt Colbeck, Andrew wrote: I hadn't noticed that before. This webpage is pretty darn explicit, so yes, the pricing you quoted is correct! From the bottom of the page that describes the corporate licences available: http://www.f-prot.com/products/corporate_users/win/ F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers To use the F-Prot Antivirus scanner on a Windows Mail Server a F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers license is required. This license category differs from the general F-Prot Antivirus for Windows for corporate users license in that it covers use that the general license does not: F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers applies to mail servers, mail relays and mail gateways, i.e. computers that provide mail services to a network, either for incoming or for outgoing e-mail. High-quality, efficient virus scanning is essential for any mail server. E-mail is the most common way for viruses and other malware to spread. The most effective way of stopping the spread of malware onto a network and beyond is at the server. F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers includes a Command Line Scanner (fpcmd.exe) that can be used with third party mail server software such as Declude and MailEnable. Information on how to use the software with such programs can be found on www.declude.com and www.mailenable.com. If you are interested in purchasing F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers, please visit our order form and take a look at our price lists. NB: Administrators should read question 113 and question 114 in the FAQ section of our Windows support pages before installing F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers. Andrew 8) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:00 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing When did Frisk change the licensing for F-prot! They now have a mail server license for windows on number of users pricing? F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers Number of Users Annual license fee 1-24 US$ 269 25-49 US$ 359 50-99 US$ 449 100-199 US$ 719 200-299 US$ 989 300-399 US$ 1259 400-499 US$ 1529 500-749 US$ 1799 750-999 US$ 2069 1000-1999 US$ 2519
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
Wow! It's like one of those MasterCard commercials. Here's an example server based on list prices: SmarterMail Enterprise Edition (Unlimited Domains and Users) - $899 Declude Security Suite for Smartermail Enterprise (Unlimited Domains) - $1750 Annual Subscription F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers (1000-1999 Users) - $2519 Annual License fee Frisk doesn't even mention a price for Unlimited Users. I guess it's like a Ferrari, if you have to ask how much it costs, you can't afford it. Original Message > From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:40 PM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing > > I hadn't noticed that before. This webpage is pretty darn explicit, so > yes, the pricing you quoted is correct! From the bottom of the page that > describes the corporate licences available: > > http://www.f-prot.com/products/corporate_users/win/ > > > F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers > > To use the F-Prot Antivirus scanner on a Windows Mail Server a F-Prot > Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers license is required. This license > category differs from the general F-Prot Antivirus for Windows for > corporate users license in that it covers use that the general license > does not: F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers applies to mail > servers, mail relays and mail gateways, i.e. computers that provide mail > services to a network, either for incoming or for outgoing e-mail. > > High-quality, efficient virus scanning is essential for any mail server. > E-mail is the most common way for viruses and other malware to spread. > The most effective way of stopping the spread of malware onto a network > and beyond is at the server. F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail > Servers includes a Command Line Scanner (fpcmd.exe) that can be used > with third party mail server software such as Declude and MailEnable. > Information on how to use the software with such programs can be found > on www.declude.com <http://www.declude.com/> and www.mailenable.com > <http://www.mailenable.com/> . > > If you are interested in purchasing F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail > Servers, please visit our order form > <https://secure.f-prot.com/cgi-bin/buy> and take a look at our price > lists <http://www.f-prot.com/products/prices/price_links.html> . > > NB: Administrators should read question 113 > <http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/113.html> and question > 114 <http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/114.html> in the > FAQ section of our Windows support pages > <http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/> before installing F-Prot > Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers. > > > > Andrew 8) > > > > _ > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Kevin Bilbee > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:00 PM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing > > > > When did Frisk change the licensing for F-prot! They now have a > mail server license for windows on number of users pricing? > > > > F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers > > Number of Users > > > > Annual license fee > > 1-24 > > > > US$ 269 > > 25-49 > > > > US$ 359 > > 50-99 > > > > US$ 449 > > 100-199 > > > > US$ 719 > > 200-299 > > > > US$ 989 > > 300-399 > > > > US$ 1259 > > 400-499 > > > > US$ 1529 > > 500-749 > > > > US$ 1799 > > 750-999 > > > > US$ 2069 > > 1000-1999 > > > > US$ 2519 > > 2000-2999 > > > > US$ 2969 > > 3000-3999 > > > > US$ 3419 > > 4000-4999 > > > > US$ 3869 > > 5000-5999 > > > > US$ 4499 > > > > > > Kevin Bilbee > Network Administrator > Standard Abrasives, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Changing the way industry works. > > > > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
I hadn't noticed that before. This webpage is pretty darn explicit, so yes, the pricing you quoted is correct! From the bottom of the page that describes the corporate licences available: http://www.f-prot.com/products/corporate_users/win/ F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers To use the F-Prot Antivirus scanner on a Windows Mail Server a F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers license is required. This license category differs from the general F-Prot Antivirus for Windows for corporate users license in that it covers use that the general license does not: F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers applies to mail servers, mail relays and mail gateways, i.e. computers that provide mail services to a network, either for incoming or for outgoing e-mail. High-quality, efficient virus scanning is essential for any mail server. E-mail is the most common way for viruses and other malware to spread. The most effective way of stopping the spread of malware onto a network and beyond is at the server. F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers includes a Command Line Scanner (fpcmd.exe) that can be used with third party mail server software such as Declude and MailEnable. Information on how to use the software with such programs can be found on www.declude.com and www.mailenable.com. If you are interested in purchasing F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers, please visit our order form and take a look at our price lists. NB: Administrators should read question 113 and question 114 in the FAQ section of our Windows support pages before installing F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers. Andrew 8) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin BilbeeSent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:00 PMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing When did Frisk change the licensing for F-prot! They now have a mail server license for windows on number of users pricing? F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers Number of Users Annual license fee 1-24 US$ 269 25-49 US$ 359 50-99 US$ 449 100-199 US$ 719 200-299 US$ 989 300-399 US$ 1259 400-499 US$ 1529 500-749 US$ 1799 750-999 US$ 2069 1000-1999 US$ 2519 2000-2999 US$ 2969 3000-3999 US$ 3419 4000-4999 US$ 3869 5000-5999 US$ 4499 Kevin BilbeeNetwork AdministratorStandard Abrasives, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED]Changing the way industry works. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
According to something I read on the Alligate Support forumn at least as far back as March. Interesting that they have never issued much of a press release on it to there customer base. Tho I licensed mine in Februrary of this year so I'm good for a bit. At 12:59 PM 7/14/2006 -0700, you wrote: When did Frisk change the licensing for F-prot! They now have a mail server license for windows on number of users pricing? F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers Number of Users Annual license fee 1-24 US$ 269 25-49 US$ 359 50-99 US$ 449 100-199 US$ 719 200-299 US$ 989 300-399 US$ 1259 400-499 US$ 1529 500-749 US$ 1799 750-999 US$ 2069 1000-1999 US$ 2519 2000-2999 US$ 2969 3000-3999 US$ 3419 4000-4999 US$ 3869 5000-5999 US$ 4499 Kevin Bilbee Network Administrator Standard Abrasives, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changing the way industry works. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
When did Frisk change the licensing for F-prot! They now have a mail server license for windows on number of users pricing? F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers Number of Users Annual license fee 1-24 US$ 269 25-49 US$ 359 50-99 US$ 449 100-199 US$ 719 200-299 US$ 989 300-399 US$ 1259 400-499 US$ 1529 500-749 US$ 1799 750-999 US$ 2069 1000-1999 US$ 2519 2000-2999 US$ 2969 3000-3999 US$ 3419 4000-4999 US$ 3869 5000-5999 US$ 4499 Kevin Bilbee Network Administrator Standard Abrasives, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changing the way industry works. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
