RE: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02

2005-08-25 Thread Bill Billman
0.0 
I can see you guys are going to keep us busy.

We are as well looking forward to focusing developing on this new version
the features and functionality our customers are talking about. And maybe a
few we have come up with too. ;)

Bill

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 and threading is fun, you pretty much have everything in 
 place to communicate back and forth between processes. 
 allowing many instances of declude to talk to each other.

That's what I mean.

Maybe this will allow us also to have/create new functionality. For example
(I don't know if I'm the only admin stressed by unpached Exchange
POP3-connectors who create endless repeated delivery of one single message)
such a new declude architecture could create RAM-based mind lists
containing frequent/suspect mailfrom-addresses, sender-ips or subject-lines
and after a certain threeshold add a certain weight or send an email alert
to the postmaster...

Maybe we can see also something like a grey-tub where suspicious messages
are keept for some minutes then checked again and with in the meantime
collected data classified as ham, spam or virus.

Even if external tests and av-engines must still be called for each single
message the performance should be noticeable bether.

Markus

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02

2005-08-25 Thread Kevin Rogers
We had this problem several times and have now forbid our offices from 
using Exchange.  It took down not only our server, but several major 
insurance companies mail servers as well.  It was a disaster.  I can't 
believe this bug didn't make more press.  It's a huge issue (for 
Exchange servers that aren't patched).  In one hour, one of our Exchange 
servers sent out 40,000 messages to everyone at our company. 




For example
(I don't know if I'm the only admin stressed by unpached Exchange
POP3-connectors who create endless repeated delivery of one single message)

 


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02

2005-08-24 Thread R. Scott Perry

Declude as a multi-threaded service sound very promising.


I agree.  :)

It is something that I had wanted to see in Declude for a long time, and 
was a logical progression for Declude, that will take care of many 
issues.  It should increase performance, and at the same time allow 
E-mails that are being processed to communicate with one another.

   -Scott


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02

2005-08-24 Thread Darin Cox
RSP ...allow E-mails that are being processed to communicate with one
another

Curious.  How do emails communicate with each other?

Darin.


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02

2005-08-24 Thread William Stillwell

There would be a main service thread witch would monitor the
status off all the worker threads..

basically, if the design were kept the way it is now (ie, declude called
on each delivery of a email)

declude starts. , isolates email, create worker threads to perform tests.. 
(ie, while
one thread can be performing dns tests, another could be doing sniffer, 
while another
is virus actions) when each Worker thread is complete it can notify the 
parent thread.


and threading is fun, you pretty much have everything in place to 
communicate back
and forth between processes. allowing many instances of declude to talk to 
each other.





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RSP ...allow E-mails that are being processed to communicate with one
another

Curious.  How do emails communicate with each other?

Darin.


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02

2005-08-24 Thread Markus Gufler

 and threading is fun, you pretty much have everything in 
 place to communicate back and forth between processes. 
 allowing many instances of declude to talk to each other.

That's what I mean.

Maybe this will allow us also to have/create new functionality. For example
(I don't know if I'm the only admin stressed by unpached Exchange
POP3-connectors who create endless repeated delivery of one single message)
such a new declude architecture could create RAM-based mind lists
containing frequent/suspect mailfrom-addresses, sender-ips or subject-lines
and after a certain threeshold add a certain weight or send an email alert
to the postmaster...

Maybe we can see also something like a grey-tub where suspicious messages
are keept for some minutes then checked again and with in the meantime
collected data classified as ham, spam or virus.

Even if external tests and av-engines must still be called for each single
message the performance should be noticeable bether.

Markus

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02

2005-08-24 Thread Darin Cox
I understand threading (I'm a software developer), but don't understand the
statement that the emails will communicate with each other.  I was hoping
for some clarification on what that meant.

Darin.


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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02


There would be a main service thread witch would monitor the
status off all the worker threads..

basically, if the design were kept the way it is now (ie, declude called
on each delivery of a email)

declude starts. , isolates email, create worker threads to perform tests..
(ie, while
one thread can be performing dns tests, another could be doing sniffer,
while another
is virus actions) when each Worker thread is complete it can notify the
parent thread.

and threading is fun, you pretty much have everything in place to
communicate back
and forth between processes. allowing many instances of declude to talk to
each other.




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 RSP ...allow E-mails that are being processed to communicate with one
 another

 Curious.  How do emails communicate with each other?

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02

2005-08-24 Thread R. Scott Perry

RSP ...allow E-mails that are being processed to communicate with one
another

Curious.  How do emails communicate with each other?

Just to clarify, it's not the actual E-mails themselves doing the 
communicating G, but the code that is processing each E-mail.  By 
having Declude run as a service, there is just one process running 
handling all the scanning (rather than one for each E-mail).  Although 
the current architecture does allow communication (Declude Hijack, for 
example, keeps tabs on how much E-mail is being sent from each IP), it 
is very cumbersome.  As a result, only things that are vital would be 
communicated.


With a single process, however, it is much easier to communicate 
information (basically almost any information that one thread has about 
an E-mail can be accessed by any other thread if needed).


By itself, this doesn't really do anything noticeable.  What it does do, 
however, is make some potential features easier to write, as well as 
making the code easier to read (and troubleshoot).

-Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02

2005-08-23 Thread Dan Horne

Heimir Eidskrem  wrote on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 12:32 AM:

 I just noticed that it was posted June 5.
 
 Whats the deal?
 2.5 months later and no update?
 
 Bring back Scott please.
 This is not good enough.
 

You're not the only one that has gotten fed up with the post-Scott
Declude.  When Scott was in charge, as soon as he THOUGHT he had a
solution it would have been out there as an interim for us to try and
SEE if it helped our problems.  Especially if the problem is an inherent
instability between Declude and Imail.  He certainly would not have made
us wait this long in the name of TESTING.  All along, those of us who
ran the interims KNEW that we were basically beta-testing development
code for Declude.  And you know what?  I didn't mind at all because of
the benefit I was getting from it.  
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02

2005-08-23 Thread Heimir Eidskrem

Its been over 2.5 months to fix a problem that is mission critical for
many of us.
Pleased with the result?
Sorry but this is getting stupid.
Pleased with the result will be its working.
It means it does not crash our server.
It means we keep our clients.

It sounds like Declude is making a *new* version instead of fixing the
problem now.
I really dont have time to wait until Declude thinks they have a better
product - I need a working product now.

Amazing how fast a company can go down the tube.
Mine included when products does not work.



Bill Billman wrote:

It does appear that some people have been missing the updates regarding the
Declude/IMail 8.2 situation.

Declude has been working on a new version in order to deal with the changes
brought about with the introduction if IMail 8.2. This has involved some
major changes to the application and to quote Scott Perry ‘Although it is
taking a bit longer than expected, I think you will be pleased with the
results.’

The next version of Declude will execute as a multi threaded Windows
service.  The configuration files and logging will remain as is so there
will minimal effort to upgrade.  

Internal testing is underway and there are plans to enter open beta soon.

Bill Billman

Director of Engineering
Declude - internet security software
978.499.2933 office
603.930.4886 mobile
978.477.8930 fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.declude.com 



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heimir Eidskrem
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 12:32 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02

I just noticed that it was posted June 5.

Whats the deal?
2.5 months later and no update?

Bring back Scott please.
This is not good enough.



Heimir Eidskrem wrote:

  

Well, good to know.
I spent this weekend troubleshooting this problem.
Our SMTP process would blow up then the SMTP becomes unresponsive.
Almost like tar pitting.

I wish I had known this Friday :(

I hope this is the number 1 priority for them.

Heimir

Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:



Declude posted this a couple weeks back and are still working on
testing the new version that resolves the issues with 8.2x
http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg24792.html
Darrell
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Hi.  I am running Imail 8.15hf2 as my mail server and Declude 1.82. 
I want to upgrade
to Imail 8.21.  any issues with that and Declude 1.82?
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02

2005-08-23 Thread Douglas Hardison

Heimir Eidskrem wrote:

Its been over 2.5 months to fix a problem that is mission critical for
many of us.
Pleased with the result?
Sorry but this is getting stupid.
Pleased with the result will be its working.
It means it does not crash our server.
It means we keep our clients.

It sounds like Declude is making a *new* version instead of fixing the
problem now.
I really dont have time to wait until Declude thinks they have a better
product - I need a working product now.

Amazing how fast a company can go down the tube.
Mine included when products does not work.



Bill Billman wrote:



It does appear that some people have been missing the updates regarding the
Declude/IMail 8.2 situation.

Declude has been working on a new version in order to deal with the changes
brought about with the introduction if IMail 8.2. This has involved some
major changes to the application and to quote Scott Perry ‘Although it is
taking a bit longer than expected, I think you will be pleased with the
results.’

The next version of Declude will execute as a multi threaded Windows
service.  The configuration files and logging will remain as is so there
will minimal effort to upgrade.  


Internal testing is underway and there are plans to enter open beta soon.

Bill Billman

Director of Engineering
Declude - internet security software
978.499.2933 office
603.930.4886 mobile
978.477.8930 fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.declude.com 




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heimir Eidskrem
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 12:32 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02

I just noticed that it was posted June 5.

Whats the deal?
2.5 months later and no update?

Bring back Scott please.
This is not good enough.



Heimir Eidskrem wrote:





Well, good to know.
I spent this weekend troubleshooting this problem.
Our SMTP process would blow up then the SMTP becomes unresponsive.
Almost like tar pitting.

I wish I had known this Friday :(

I hope this is the number 1 priority for them.

Heimir

Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

  




Declude posted this a couple weeks back and are still working on
testing the new version that resolves the issues with 8.2x
http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg24792.html
Darrell
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Orillia ProNet Administration writes:





Hi.  I am running Imail 8.15hf2 as my mail server and Declude 1.82. 
I want to upgrade

to Imail 8.21.  any issues with that and Declude 1.82?
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Amazing how fast a company can go down the tube.
You said it, brother. Seems Declude went down the tubes
the day Scott Perry handed over the reigns. Too bad, really.
He had something good going. But, that's what we're all in it
for, anyway - $$$

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02

2005-08-23 Thread William Stillwell

I think there just waiting for everyone's support to expire..

- Original Message - 
From: Heimir Eidskrem [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02




Its been over 2.5 months to fix a problem that is mission critical for
many of us.
Pleased with the result?
Sorry but this is getting stupid.
Pleased with the result will be its working.
It means it does not crash our server.
It means we keep our clients.

It sounds like Declude is making a *new* version instead of fixing the
problem now.
I really dont have time to wait until Declude thinks they have a better
product - I need a working product now.

Amazing how fast a company can go down the tube.
Mine included when products does not work.



Bill Billman wrote:

It does appear that some people have been missing the updates regarding 
the

Declude/IMail 8.2 situation.

Declude has been working on a new version in order to deal with the 
changes

brought about with the introduction if IMail 8.2. This has involved some
major changes to the application and to quote Scott Perry ‘Although it is
taking a bit longer than expected, I think you will be pleased with the
results.’

The next version of Declude will execute as a multi threaded Windows
service.  The configuration files and logging will remain as is so there
will minimal effort to upgrade.

Internal testing is underway and there are plans to enter open beta soon.

Bill Billman

Director of Engineering
Declude - internet security software
978.499.2933 office
603.930.4886 mobile
978.477.8930 fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.declude.com



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heimir Eidskrem
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 12:32 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02

I just noticed that it was posted June 5.

Whats the deal?
2.5 months later and no update?

Bring back Scott please.
This is not good enough.



Heimir Eidskrem wrote:




Well, good to know.
I spent this weekend troubleshooting this problem.
Our SMTP process would blow up then the SMTP becomes unresponsive.
Almost like tar pitting.

I wish I had known this Friday :(

I hope this is the number 1 priority for them.

Heimir

Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:




Declude posted this a couple weeks back and are still working on
testing the new version that resolves the issues with 8.2x
http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg24792.html
Darrell
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Orillia ProNet Administration writes:




Hi.  I am running Imail 8.15hf2 as my mail server and Declude 1.82.
I want to upgrade
to Imail 8.21.  any issues with that and Declude 1.82?
--
Regards,
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Orillia ProNet
22A Colborne Street West
Orillia, Ontairo
L3V 2Y3
705-329-3949
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02

2005-08-23 Thread Michael Hardrick
Just an FYI, I won't be renewing our service contract.
(Declude is probably saying good riddance now :P)
We have been waiting for MONTHS for a fix to this issue
and I was told it would take two weeks tops.  When Scott
was the owner the only real issue I had with Declude was
the absence of a documentation.  (REAL DOCUMENTATION)
At least he did keep the code coming when there
were issues.

I've had to move on to other solutions.  I will not let my company
suffer while I'm waiting for vaporware!  I'm currently testing
the MailFoundry unit to see if it can keep up with the pace.

Regards,
Mike Hardrick
TNWEB LLC 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heimir Eidskrem
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 08:32
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02


Its been over 2.5 months to fix a problem that is mission critical for many
of us.
Pleased with the result?
Sorry but this is getting stupid.
Pleased with the result will be its working.
It means it does not crash our server.
It means we keep our clients.

It sounds like Declude is making a *new* version instead of fixing the
problem now.
I really dont have time to wait until Declude thinks they have a better
product - I need a working product now.

Amazing how fast a company can go down the tube.
Mine included when products does not work.



Bill Billman wrote:

It does appear that some people have been missing the updates regarding 
the Declude/IMail 8.2 situation.

Declude has been working on a new version in order to deal with the 
changes brought about with the introduction if IMail 8.2. This has 
involved some major changes to the application and to quote Scott Perry 
'Although it is taking a bit longer than expected, I think you will be 
pleased with the results.'

The next version of Declude will execute as a multi threaded Windows 
service.  The configuration files and logging will remain as is so 
there will minimal effort to upgrade.

Internal testing is underway and there are plans to enter open beta soon.

Bill Billman

Director of Engineering
Declude - internet security software
978.499.2933 office
603.930.4886 mobile
978.477.8930 fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.declude.com



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heimir 
Eidskrem
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 12:32 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02

I just noticed that it was posted June 5.

Whats the deal?
2.5 months later and no update?

Bring back Scott please.
This is not good enough.



Heimir Eidskrem wrote:

  

Well, good to know.
I spent this weekend troubleshooting this problem.
Our SMTP process would blow up then the SMTP becomes unresponsive.
Almost like tar pitting.

I wish I had known this Friday :(

I hope this is the number 1 priority for them.

Heimir

Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:



Declude posted this a couple weeks back and are still working on 
testing the new version that resolves the issues with 8.2x 
http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg24792.htm
l
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Administration writes:

  

Hi.  I am running Imail 8.15hf2 as my mail server and Declude 1.82. 
I want to upgrade
to Imail 8.21.  any issues with that and Declude 1.82?
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02

2005-08-23 Thread Markus Gufler
I've running  Imail 8.15 and the Declude 1.82 here and everything is running
fine.
Do you realy need Imail 8.2?

Declude as a multi-threaded service sound very promising. 

Markus



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Heimir Eidskrem
 Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 3:32 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02
 
 
 Its been over 2.5 months to fix a problem that is mission 
 critical for many of us.
 Pleased with the result?
 Sorry but this is getting stupid.
 Pleased with the result will be its working.
 It means it does not crash our server.
 It means we keep our clients.
 
 It sounds like Declude is making a *new* version instead of 
 fixing the problem now.
 I really dont have time to wait until Declude thinks they 
 have a better product - I need a working product now.
 
 Amazing how fast a company can go down the tube.
 Mine included when products does not work.
 
 
 
 Bill Billman wrote:
 
 It does appear that some people have been missing the 
 updates regarding 
 the Declude/IMail 8.2 situation.
 
 Declude has been working on a new version in order to deal with the 
 changes brought about with the introduction if IMail 8.2. This has 
 involved some major changes to the application and to quote 
 Scott Perry 
 'Although it is taking a bit longer than expected, I think 
 you will be 
 pleased with the results.'
 
 The next version of Declude will execute as a multi threaded Windows 
 service.  The configuration files and logging will remain as is so 
 there will minimal effort to upgrade.
 
 Internal testing is underway and there are plans to enter 
 open beta soon.
 
 Bill Billman
 
 Director of Engineering
 Declude - internet security software
 978.499.2933 office
 603.930.4886 mobile
 978.477.8930 fax
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.declude.com
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heimir 
 Eidskrem
 Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 12:32 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02
 
 I just noticed that it was posted June 5.
 
 Whats the deal?
 2.5 months later and no update?
 
 Bring back Scott please.
 This is not good enough.
 
 
 
 Heimir Eidskrem wrote:
 
   
 
 Well, good to know.
 I spent this weekend troubleshooting this problem.
 Our SMTP process would blow up then the SMTP becomes unresponsive.
 Almost like tar pitting.
 
 I wish I had known this Friday :(
 
 I hope this is the number 1 priority for them.
 
 Heimir
 
 Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 
 
 Declude posted this a couple weeks back and are still working on 
 testing the new version that resolves the issues with 8.2x 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/ms
 g24792.htm
 l
 Darrell
 --
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 and Virus. 
 Download it today - http://www.invariantsystems.com Orillia ProNet 
 Administration writes:
 
   
 
 Hi.  I am running Imail 8.15hf2 as my mail server and 
 Declude 1.82. 
 I want to upgrade
 to Imail 8.21.  any issues with that and Declude 1.82?
 --
 Regards,
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02

2005-08-23 Thread William Stillwell

I upgraded before there was a Known problem.

However since I only delivery around 5K /msgs Day, I don't
appear to have that much of an issue. So i just restart the
services once a week.



- Original Message - 
From: Markus Gufler [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:40 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02


I've running  Imail 8.15 and the Declude 1.82 here and everything is 
running

fine.
Do you realy need Imail 8.2?

Declude as a multi-threaded service sound very promising.

Markus




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Heimir Eidskrem
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 3:32 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02


Its been over 2.5 months to fix a problem that is mission
critical for many of us.
Pleased with the result?
Sorry but this is getting stupid.
Pleased with the result will be its working.
It means it does not crash our server.
It means we keep our clients.

It sounds like Declude is making a *new* version instead of
fixing the problem now.
I really dont have time to wait until Declude thinks they
have a better product - I need a working product now.

Amazing how fast a company can go down the tube.
Mine included when products does not work.



Bill Billman wrote:

It does appear that some people have been missing the
updates regarding
the Declude/IMail 8.2 situation.

Declude has been working on a new version in order to deal with the
changes brought about with the introduction if IMail 8.2. This has
involved some major changes to the application and to quote
Scott Perry
'Although it is taking a bit longer than expected, I think
you will be
pleased with the results.'

The next version of Declude will execute as a multi threaded Windows
service.  The configuration files and logging will remain as is so
there will minimal effort to upgrade.

Internal testing is underway and there are plans to enter
open beta soon.

Bill Billman

Director of Engineering
Declude - internet security software
978.499.2933 office
603.930.4886 mobile
978.477.8930 fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.declude.com



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heimir
Eidskrem
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 12:32 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02

I just noticed that it was posted June 5.

Whats the deal?
2.5 months later and no update?

Bring back Scott please.
This is not good enough.



Heimir Eidskrem wrote:



Well, good to know.
I spent this weekend troubleshooting this problem.
Our SMTP process would blow up then the SMTP becomes unresponsive.
Almost like tar pitting.

I wish I had known this Friday :(

I hope this is the number 1 priority for them.

Heimir

Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:



Declude posted this a couple weeks back and are still working on
testing the new version that resolves the issues with 8.2x
http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/ms
g24792.htm
l
Darrell
--
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and Virus.
Download it today - http://www.invariantsystems.com Orillia ProNet
Administration writes:



Hi.  I am running Imail 8.15hf2 as my mail server and
Declude 1.82.
I want to upgrade
to Imail 8.21.  any issues with that and Declude 1.82?
--
Regards,
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Orillia ProNet
22A Colborne Street West
Orillia, Ontairo
L3V 2Y3
705-329-3949
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02

2005-08-23 Thread Heimir Eidskrem

Do we need Imail 8.2?

Its besides the point.
We do pay for service agreements and we do expect and demand that the 
software we pay for.


When an error that shuts down the mail server is found it must be fixed 
ASAP.

waiting for over 2.5 months so far is unacceptable.

I assume that Declude will extend our service contracts for the time 
when they had a faulty product on the market.




Markus Gufler wrote:


I've running  Imail 8.15 and the Declude 1.82 here and everything is running
fine.
Do you realy need Imail 8.2?

Declude as a multi-threaded service sound very promising. 


Markus



 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Heimir Eidskrem

Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 3:32 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02


Its been over 2.5 months to fix a problem that is mission 
critical for many of us.

Pleased with the result?
Sorry but this is getting stupid.
Pleased with the result will be its working.
It means it does not crash our server.
It means we keep our clients.

It sounds like Declude is making a *new* version instead of 
fixing the problem now.
I really dont have time to wait until Declude thinks they 
have a better product - I need a working product now.


Amazing how fast a company can go down the tube.
Mine included when products does not work.



Bill Billman wrote:

   

It does appear that some people have been missing the 
 

updates regarding 
   


the Declude/IMail 8.2 situation.

Declude has been working on a new version in order to deal with the 
changes brought about with the introduction if IMail 8.2. This has 
involved some major changes to the application and to quote 
 

Scott Perry 
   

'Although it is taking a bit longer than expected, I think 
 

you will be 
   


pleased with the results.'

The next version of Declude will execute as a multi threaded Windows 
service.  The configuration files and logging will remain as is so 
there will minimal effort to upgrade.


Internal testing is underway and there are plans to enter 
 


open beta soon.
   


Bill Billman

Director of Engineering
Declude - internet security software
978.499.2933 office
603.930.4886 mobile
978.477.8930 fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.declude.com



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heimir 
Eidskrem

Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 12:32 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02

I just noticed that it was posted June 5.

Whats the deal?
2.5 months later and no update?

Bring back Scott please.
This is not good enough.



Heimir Eidskrem wrote:



 


Well, good to know.
I spent this weekend troubleshooting this problem.
Our SMTP process would blow up then the SMTP becomes unresponsive.
Almost like tar pitting.

I wish I had known this Friday :(

I hope this is the number 1 priority for them.

Heimir

Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

  

   

Declude posted this a couple weeks back and are still working on 
testing the new version that resolves the issues with 8.2x 
http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/ms
 


g24792.htm
   


l
Darrell
--
DLAnalyzer - Comprehensive reporting for Declude Junkmail 
 

and Virus. 
   

Download it today - http://www.invariantsystems.com Orillia ProNet 
Administration writes:




 

Hi.  I am running Imail 8.15hf2 as my mail server and 
   

Declude 1.82. 
   


I want to upgrade
to Imail 8.21.  any issues with that and Declude 1.82?
--
Regards,
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Orillia ProNet
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L3V 2Y3
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02

2005-08-23 Thread Kevin Bilbee
We are also runing about 5k per day but we do not have any issues at all
with declude and have not restarted our server, (except for MS updates), for
any imail/declude related issues.

We are runnning IMail 8.20 and Declude 2.0.5.51
We also gateway all our mail and IMail sends all outgoing messages to our
gateway for final delivery.
We are using BIND on our gateway servers for DNS

IMOP when running third party applications with a product, you always take a
chance of not being able to upgrade to the latest version of the product
until the third party product updates to function properly with the new
version.

For thoes complaining, did you ever consider the service solution may be the
best way for declude to support Imail 8.2 and still maintain
backward/forward compatibility.

Kevin Bilbee

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
 Stillwell
 Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 8:51 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02


 I upgraded before there was a Known problem.

 However since I only delivery around 5K /msgs Day, I don't
 appear to have that much of an issue. So i just restart the
 services once a week.



 - Original Message -
 From: Markus Gufler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:40 AM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02


  I've running  Imail 8.15 and the Declude 1.82 here and everything is
  running
  fine.
  Do you realy need Imail 8.2?
 
  Declude as a multi-threaded service sound very promising.
 
  Markus
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
  Heimir Eidskrem
  Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 3:32 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02
 
 
  Its been over 2.5 months to fix a problem that is mission
  critical for many of us.
  Pleased with the result?
  Sorry but this is getting stupid.
  Pleased with the result will be its working.
  It means it does not crash our server.
  It means we keep our clients.
 
  It sounds like Declude is making a *new* version instead of
  fixing the problem now.
  I really dont have time to wait until Declude thinks they
  have a better product - I need a working product now.
 
  Amazing how fast a company can go down the tube.
  Mine included when products does not work.
 
 
 
  Bill Billman wrote:
 
  It does appear that some people have been missing the
  updates regarding
  the Declude/IMail 8.2 situation.
  
  Declude has been working on a new version in order to deal with the
  changes brought about with the introduction if IMail 8.2. This has
  involved some major changes to the application and to quote
  Scott Perry
  'Although it is taking a bit longer than expected, I think
  you will be
  pleased with the results.'
  
  The next version of Declude will execute as a multi threaded Windows
  service.  The configuration files and logging will remain as is so
  there will minimal effort to upgrade.
  
  Internal testing is underway and there are plans to enter
  open beta soon.
  
  Bill Billman
  
  Director of Engineering
  Declude - internet security software
  978.499.2933 office
  603.930.4886 mobile
  978.477.8930 fax
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.declude.com
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heimir
  Eidskrem
  Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 12:32 AM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02
  
  I just noticed that it was posted June 5.
  
  Whats the deal?
  2.5 months later and no update?
  
  Bring back Scott please.
  This is not good enough.
  
  
  
  Heimir Eidskrem wrote:
  
  
  
  Well, good to know.
  I spent this weekend troubleshooting this problem.
  Our SMTP process would blow up then the SMTP becomes unresponsive.
  Almost like tar pitting.
  
  I wish I had known this Friday :(
  
  I hope this is the number 1 priority for them.
  
  Heimir
  
  Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  
  
  
  Declude posted this a couple weeks back and are still working on
  testing the new version that resolves the issues with 8.2x
  http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/ms
  g24792.htm
  l
  Darrell
  --
  DLAnalyzer - Comprehensive reporting for Declude Junkmail
  and Virus.
  Download it today - http://www.invariantsystems.com Orillia ProNet
  Administration writes:
  
  
  
  Hi.  I am running Imail 8.15hf2 as my mail server and
  Declude 1.82.
  I want to upgrade
  to Imail 8.21.  any issues with that and Declude 1.82?
  --
  Regards,
  Orillia ProNet Administration
  Orillia ProNet
  22A Colborne Street West
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[Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02

2005-08-22 Thread Orillia ProNet Administration
Hi.  I am running Imail 8.15hf2 as my mail server and Declude 1.82.  I want to 
upgrade
to Imail 8.21.  any issues with that and Declude 1.82?

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Orillia ProNet
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Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02

2005-08-22 Thread Orillia ProNet Administration
Monday, August 22, 2005, 2:28:03 PM, you wrote:

Dsic Declude posted this a couple weeks back and are still working on testing 
the 
Dsic new version that resolves the issues with 8.2x 

Dsic http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg24792.html 

Ah, so no sense upgrading yet!  Thanks.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02

2005-08-22 Thread Heimir Eidskrem

Well, good to know.
I spent this weekend troubleshooting this problem.
Our SMTP process would blow up then the SMTP becomes unresponsive.
Almost like tar pitting.

I wish I had known this Friday :(

I hope this is the number 1 priority for them.

Heimir

Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

Declude posted this a couple weeks back and are still working on 
testing the new version that resolves the issues with 8.2x

http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg24792.html
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Orillia ProNet Administration writes:

Hi.  I am running Imail 8.15hf2 as my mail server and Declude 1.82.  
I want to upgrade

to Imail 8.21.  any issues with that and Declude 1.82?
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8.02

2005-08-22 Thread Heimir Eidskrem
I just noticed that it was posted June 5.

Whats the deal?
2.5 months later and no update?

Bring back Scott please.
This is not good enough.



Heimir Eidskrem wrote:

 Well, good to know.
 I spent this weekend troubleshooting this problem.
 Our SMTP process would blow up then the SMTP becomes unresponsive.
 Almost like tar pitting.

 I wish I had known this Friday :(

 I hope this is the number 1 priority for them.

 Heimir

 Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 Declude posted this a couple weeks back and are still working on
 testing the new version that resolves the issues with 8.2x
 http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg24792.html
 Darrell
 --
 DLAnalyzer - Comprehensive reporting for Declude Junkmail and Virus. 
 Download it today - http://www.invariantsystems.com
 Orillia ProNet Administration writes:

 Hi.  I am running Imail 8.15hf2 as my mail server and Declude 1.82. 
 I want to upgrade
 to Imail 8.21.  any issues with that and Declude 1.82?
 -- 
 Regards,
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[Declude.JunkMail] iMail 8.02 Intergrated Anti-Spam and Declude?

2003-09-05 Thread Dan Star
What is the suggested configuration for iMail 8.02's anti-spam features
when using Declude?  Or should it just iMail anti-spam be disabled?

Thanks,
Dan

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] iMail 8.02 Intergrated Anti-Spam and Declude?

2003-09-05 Thread David Dodell
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From: Dan Star [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What is the suggested configuration for iMail 8.02's anti-spam features
when using Declude?  Or should it just iMail anti-spam be disabled?


I use a combination of both ... I have all of the IP4 tests turned off, and some of 
the others such as the REVDNS, etc.  The only thing I use is some of the HTML 
catching, and key phrases ... I seem to catch most of my Nigerian SPAM scams that way 
since those are usually sent from a legtimate account on yahoo/hotmail etc so they 
past all of the usual tests.

Basically, anything I can test in Declude, I use Declude, the few minor things I use 
Imail.   I know Declude can catch some of the phrases etc ... I've just not been able 
to figure it out grin  
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[Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.02 DJ PRO

2003-08-15 Thread Kris McElroy
I just installed Imail 8.02 on my server from 7.15.  I am running Declude
Junkmail Pro and Declude Virus Pro.  Everywhere that Imail and ENABLE Spam
or Filtering I disabled it.  Is this the correct thing to do so that Declude
Junkmail Handles all Emails?  Also is there anyone actually using Imails
Anti Spam in conjunction with Declude Junkmail? If so how (what tests,
etc..)?



Thanks,


Kris McElroy
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Internet Systems Engineer
Duracom, INC.
www.duracom.net

I am always doing that which I can not do, in order that I may learn how to
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.02 DJ PRO

2003-08-15 Thread James James
Greetings

I currently run Imail 8 and Declude Junkmail. I turned on the statistical
filtering in Imail because as far as I knew declude did not have a similar
test. I catch equal amounts of spam with both tests. The annoying part is
having to maintain two whitelists and check two locations for false positive
spams. I did just find out that I have Declude Junkmail Pro. I was wondering
what tests that I could have setup because I have the pro version. I would
much rather have Declude do all of my spam filtering.

James James
Help Desk/Systems Administration
Lile International
www.lile.net
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.02  DJ PRO


 I just installed Imail 8.02 on my server from 7.15.  I am running Declude
 Junkmail Pro and Declude Virus Pro.  Everywhere that Imail and ENABLE Spam
 or Filtering I disabled it.  Is this the correct thing to do so that
Declude
 Junkmail Handles all Emails?  Also is there anyone actually using Imails
 Anti Spam in conjunction with Declude Junkmail? If so how (what tests,
 etc..)?



 Thanks,


 Kris McElroy
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Internet Systems Engineer
 Duracom, INC.
 www.duracom.net

 I am always doing that which I can not do, in order that I may learn how
to
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