Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Very slow Queue times...

2005-06-17 Thread Darin Cox
Did you add new DNSBL or RHSBL tests when moving to 2.06?  I thought I saw
someone mention that the cause may have been a particular DNS-based test
timing out, which was slowing down the processing of every email.

If it can be identified, then perhaps Declude will remove it from the
config, announce to all users to remove the test to avoid this problem, and
update the online DNSBL/RHSBL list to reflect additions/deletions over the
past year.

Darin.


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From: Evans Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 12:59 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Very slow Queue times...


I did the same.  There is definitely an issue with 2.0.6.16.

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Hardrick
 Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 7:43 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Very slow Queue times...

 I dropped back to an older version and within an hour my queueoverflow
 went from 42000+ to 25 (that's twenty-five) emails.  Mail from gmail,
 yahoo,
 msn, and the rest of the world now gets processed in a matter of seconds
 rather then hours.  I did not have to reboot the server.  I checked our
 DNS servers and they are running fine.  I'm sure our dial-up/DSL/Wireless
 and T1 customers would have notified us right away if they had an issue
 with not resolving.  I can probably reproduce the issue, but since it's a
 production machine that might be a bad idea.

 Tks for everyone's help.

 --Mike

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 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Very slow Queue times...

 Is there any reason the Queue times would be over three hours?
 The Queue is backed up to over 2+ and the overflow directory has
 19000+
 as well.  It's taking about four hours to deliver mail to and from our
 server even on local accounts.  I've checked the CPU usage and rebooted
 the
 machine twice.  We are using 2.0.6.16.
 Dual CPU 2800
 2GB RAM
 SATA 10k Drives
 Plenty of disk space and RAM left.
 CPU Usage is about 40%
 There are about 25 to 35 Declude processes running at any given time.
 Nothing has changed in our config in about three weeks.
 This just started about 40 hours ago.

 Tks,
 --Mike
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Very slow Queue times...

2005-06-17 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
That would definitely contribute to slow processing, but the EASYNET
lists have been dead for a long, long time.

If you still want to use the data they held, check out the much more
reliable tests here, which also host the legacy lists for EASYNET:

http://www.njabl.org/

You might also want to look for Scott Fisher's recent posts on two
Declude users's sites that track how well various RBLs they use are
performing and adopt some of those good ones.  Scott also included a
well-known Internet page where somebody compares the effectiveness of
various lists (it goes back quite a while).


Andrew 8)


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Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 8:08 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Very slow Queue times...


Just in case this helps anyone else:

I've done some digging and noticed that the easynet.nl tests don't seem 
to resolve (blackholes.easynet.nl, dynablock.easynet.nl, 
proxies.blackholes.easynet.nl) and after removing those tests it seemed 
to work much better.  Though I am taking the time to optimize our system

a bit better so it can handle this type of thing better in the future.

Not sure if this would have related the problems Darrell mentioned, 
since I didn't find any other symptoms of that problem here (but that 
problem seems limited to 2.0.6).

::James Nelson

James Nelson wrote:

 I've noticed the same problem (also starting last night some time),
 I'm still running Declude 2.0.5.  I am still working on diagnosing it,

 but I have been noticing that the Declude instances seem to be running

 longer than normal.  The dec.log doesn't seem to indicate anything

 unusual, but I'm beginning to wonder if one (or more) of the tests is 
 having problems (slow, timing out, etc.).  Here are a list of the 
 tests I'm running (all of which are still configed the same as their 
 default in global.cfg).

 DSBLWARN
 ORDBWARN
 SPAMCOPWARN
 EASYNET-DNSBLWARN
 EASYNET-DYNAWARN
 EASYNET-PROXIESWARN
 BLITZEDALLWARN
 SBLWARN
 DSNWARN
 NOABUSEWARN
 NOPOSTMASTERWARN
 BADHEADERSWARN
 BASE64WARN
 COMMENTSWARN
 HELOBOGUSWARN
 IPNOTINMXIGNORE
 MAILFROMWARN
 NOLEGITCONTENTIGNORE
 PERCENTHOLD
 REVDNSWARN
 ROUTINGWARN
 SPAMHEADERSWARN
 SPFFAILWARN

 Along with a some mailpure.com filters.

 ::James Nelson



 Michael L. Hardrick wrote:

 Is there any reason the Queue times would be over three hours? The 
 Queue is backed up to over 2+ and the overflow directory has 
 19000+ as well.  It's taking about four hours to deliver mail to and 
 from our server even on local accounts.  I've checked the CPU usage 
 and rebooted the machine twice.  We are using 2.0.6.16. Dual CPU 2800
 2GB RAM
 SATA 10k Drives
 Plenty of disk space and RAM left.
 CPU Usage is about 40%
 There are about 25 to 35 Declude processes running at any given time.
 Nothing has changed in our config in about three weeks.
 This just started about 40 hours ago.

 Tks,
 --Mike
 TNWEB
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[Declude.JunkMail] Very slow Queue times...

2005-06-16 Thread Michael L. Hardrick
Is there any reason the Queue times would be over three hours?
The Queue is backed up to over 2+ and the overflow directory
has 19000+ as well.  It's taking about four hours to deliver mail
to and from our server even on local accounts.  I've checked the
CPU usage and rebooted the machine twice.  We are using 2.0.6.16.
Dual CPU 2800
2GB RAM
SATA 10k Drives
Plenty of disk space and RAM left.
CPU Usage is about 40%
There are about 25 to 35 Declude processes running at any given time.
Nothing has changed in our config in about three weeks.
This just started about 40 hours ago.

Tks,
--Mike
TNWEB
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Very slow Queue times...

2005-06-16 Thread James Nelson
I've noticed the same problem (also starting last night some time), I'm 
still running Declude 2.0.5.  I am still working on diagnosing it, but I 
have been noticing that the Declude instances seem to be running longer 
than normal.  The dec.log doesn't seem to indicate anything unusual, 
but I'm beginning to wonder if one (or more) of the tests is having 
problems (slow, timing out, etc.).  Here are a list of the tests I'm 
running (all of which are still configed the same as their default in 
global.cfg).


DSBLWARN
ORDBWARN
SPAMCOPWARN
EASYNET-DNSBLWARN
EASYNET-DYNAWARN
EASYNET-PROXIESWARN
BLITZEDALLWARN
SBLWARN
DSNWARN
NOABUSEWARN
NOPOSTMASTERWARN
BADHEADERSWARN
BASE64WARN
COMMENTSWARN
HELOBOGUSWARN
IPNOTINMXIGNORE
MAILFROMWARN
NOLEGITCONTENTIGNORE
PERCENTHOLD
REVDNSWARN
ROUTINGWARN
SPAMHEADERSWARN
SPFFAILWARN

Along with a some mailpure.com filters.

::James Nelson



Michael L. Hardrick wrote:


Is there any reason the Queue times would be over three hours?
The Queue is backed up to over 2+ and the overflow directory
has 19000+ as well.  It's taking about four hours to deliver mail
to and from our server even on local accounts.  I've checked the
CPU usage and rebooted the machine twice.  We are using 2.0.6.16.
Dual CPU 2800
2GB RAM
SATA 10k Drives
Plenty of disk space and RAM left.
CPU Usage is about 40%
There are about 25 to 35 Declude processes running at any given time.
Nothing has changed in our config in about three weeks.
This just started about 40 hours ago.

Tks,
--Mike
TNWEB
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Very slow Queue times...

2005-06-16 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Mike,

I had the EXACT same problem today although I caught it very early to
QueueMon.  I had to add the DNSOVERRIDE xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx where xxx... is in
the declude.cfg file.  Ralph from Declude posted this a while back and at
the time I did not exhibit the problem - but I sure did today...

Here is the post to the list that was archived.
http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg24658.html

Darrell
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- Original Message - 
From: Michael L. Hardrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:57 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Very slow Queue times...


Is there any reason the Queue times would be over three hours?
The Queue is backed up to over 2+ and the overflow directory
has 19000+ as well.  It's taking about four hours to deliver mail
to and from our server even on local accounts.  I've checked the
CPU usage and rebooted the machine twice.  We are using 2.0.6.16.
Dual CPU 2800
2GB RAM
SATA 10k Drives
Plenty of disk space and RAM left.
CPU Usage is about 40%
There are about 25 to 35 Declude processes running at any given time.
Nothing has changed in our config in about three weeks.
This just started about 40 hours ago.

Tks,
--Mike
TNWEB
16:47cst
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Very slow Queue times...

2005-06-16 Thread Michael Hardrick
I dropped back to an older version and within an hour my queueoverflow
went from 42000+ to 25 (that's twenty-five) emails.  Mail from gmail, yahoo,
msn, and the rest of the world now gets processed in a matter of seconds
rather then hours.  I did not have to reboot the server.  I checked our
DNS servers and they are running fine.  I'm sure our dial-up/DSL/Wireless
and T1 customers would have notified us right away if they had an issue
with not resolving.  I can probably reproduce the issue, but since it's a
production machine that might be a bad idea.

Tks for everyone's help.

--Mike  

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael L. Hardrick
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 16:58
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Very slow Queue times...

Is there any reason the Queue times would be over three hours?
The Queue is backed up to over 2+ and the overflow directory has 19000+
as well.  It's taking about four hours to deliver mail to and from our
server even on local accounts.  I've checked the CPU usage and rebooted the
machine twice.  We are using 2.0.6.16.
Dual CPU 2800
2GB RAM
SATA 10k Drives
Plenty of disk space and RAM left.
CPU Usage is about 40%
There are about 25 to 35 Declude processes running at any given time.
Nothing has changed in our config in about three weeks.
This just started about 40 hours ago.

Tks,
--Mike
TNWEB
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Very slow Queue times...

2005-06-16 Thread James Nelson

Just in case this helps anyone else:

I've done some digging and noticed that the easynet.nl tests don't seem 
to resolve (blackholes.easynet.nl, dynablock.easynet.nl, 
proxies.blackholes.easynet.nl) and after removing those tests it seemed 
to work much better.  Though I am taking the time to optimize our system 
a bit better so it can handle this type of thing better in the future.


Not sure if this would have related the problems Darrell mentioned, 
since I didn't find any other symptoms of that problem here (but that 
problem seems limited to 2.0.6).


::James Nelson

James Nelson wrote:

I've noticed the same problem (also starting last night some time), 
I'm still running Declude 2.0.5.  I am still working on diagnosing it, 
but I have been noticing that the Declude instances seem to be running 
longer than normal.  The dec.log doesn't seem to indicate anything 
unusual, but I'm beginning to wonder if one (or more) of the tests is 
having problems (slow, timing out, etc.).  Here are a list of the 
tests I'm running (all of which are still configed the same as their 
default in global.cfg).


DSBLWARN
ORDBWARN
SPAMCOPWARN
EASYNET-DNSBLWARN
EASYNET-DYNAWARN
EASYNET-PROXIESWARN
BLITZEDALLWARN
SBLWARN
DSNWARN
NOABUSEWARN
NOPOSTMASTERWARN
BADHEADERSWARN
BASE64WARN
COMMENTSWARN
HELOBOGUSWARN
IPNOTINMXIGNORE
MAILFROMWARN
NOLEGITCONTENTIGNORE
PERCENTHOLD
REVDNSWARN
ROUTINGWARN
SPAMHEADERSWARN
SPFFAILWARN

Along with a some mailpure.com filters.

::James Nelson



Michael L. Hardrick wrote:


Is there any reason the Queue times would be over three hours?
The Queue is backed up to over 2+ and the overflow directory
has 19000+ as well.  It's taking about four hours to deliver mail
to and from our server even on local accounts.  I've checked the
CPU usage and rebooted the machine twice.  We are using 2.0.6.16.
Dual CPU 2800
2GB RAM
SATA 10k Drives
Plenty of disk space and RAM left.
CPU Usage is about 40%
There are about 25 to 35 Declude processes running at any given time.
Nothing has changed in our config in about three weeks.
This just started about 40 hours ago.

Tks,
--Mike
TNWEB
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Very slow Queue times...

2005-06-16 Thread Evans Martin
I did the same.  There is definitely an issue with 2.0.6.16.

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Hardrick
 Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 7:43 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Very slow Queue times...
 
 I dropped back to an older version and within an hour my queueoverflow
 went from 42000+ to 25 (that's twenty-five) emails.  Mail from gmail,
 yahoo,
 msn, and the rest of the world now gets processed in a matter of seconds
 rather then hours.  I did not have to reboot the server.  I checked our
 DNS servers and they are running fine.  I'm sure our dial-up/DSL/Wireless
 and T1 customers would have notified us right away if they had an issue
 with not resolving.  I can probably reproduce the issue, but since it's a
 production machine that might be a bad idea.
 
 Tks for everyone's help.
 
 --Mike
 
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael L.
 Hardrick
 Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 16:58
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Very slow Queue times...
 
 Is there any reason the Queue times would be over three hours?
 The Queue is backed up to over 2+ and the overflow directory has
 19000+
 as well.  It's taking about four hours to deliver mail to and from our
 server even on local accounts.  I've checked the CPU usage and rebooted
 the
 machine twice.  We are using 2.0.6.16.
 Dual CPU 2800
 2GB RAM
 SATA 10k Drives
 Plenty of disk space and RAM left.
 CPU Usage is about 40%
 There are about 25 to 35 Declude processes running at any given time.
 Nothing has changed in our config in about three weeks.
 This just started about 40 hours ago.
 
 Tks,
 --Mike
 TNWEB
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