[Declude.JunkMail] Weighting based on some Imail Tests...?

2006-11-08 Thread Jim Comerford
I'm relatively new to Declude, but have been using Imail and many of its
test for quite a while.

I'm curious if it is possible to use some of imail's antispam tests
(specifically Baysean filter, and url-blacklist) to add weight to declude
tests.  We have had great results with these two tests and if they were in
the weighting systen I think it would help.  I'm not sure which part of
imail's tests get run before control is passed to declude, but it seems if
these are, declude shouldbe able to use them in the weighting system...

Is anyone doing anything like this?  Or and I off base and duplicating
something that declude already offers...?





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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Weighting based on some Imail Tests...?

2006-11-08 Thread Darin Cox
You can get much of the Bayesian filtering results from Sniffer, and Sniffer
and invURIBL can be used to filter based on urls in the content.

These are external tests, to cover functionality not built into Declude.

Darin.


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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Weighting based on some Imail Tests...?


I'm relatively new to Declude, but have been using Imail and many of its
test for quite a while.

I'm curious if it is possible to use some of imail's antispam tests
(specifically Baysean filter, and url-blacklist) to add weight to declude
tests.  We have had great results with these two tests and if they were in
the weighting systen I think it would help.  I'm not sure which part of
imail's tests get run before control is passed to declude, but it seems if
these are, declude shouldbe able to use them in the weighting system...

Is anyone doing anything like this?  Or and I off base and duplicating
something that declude already offers...?





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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Weighting based on some Imail Tests...?

2006-11-08 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Jim,

It depends on the Imail test -Some are processed before Declude.  I am not 
exactly sure which ones run before Declude as I do not use any of the Imail 
tests.

Processing Order for IMail
Both IMail and Declude have a number of different tests that they run on 
email. The order used is as follows:

  1.. IMail's Control Access file (to block IPs)

  2.. IMail's Kill List (to block return addresses)

  3.. IMail v8 anti-spam (most tests)

  4.. Declude Virus

  5.. Declude Hijack

  6.. Declude JunkMail

  7.. IMail's filters and extra IMail v8 anti-spam tests

Darrell


Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And 
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG 
Integration, and Log Parsers.
- Original Message - 
From: Jim Comerford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 1:10 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Weighting based on some Imail Tests...?


I'm relatively new to Declude, but have been using Imail and many of its
test for quite a while.

I'm curious if it is possible to use some of imail's antispam tests
(specifically Baysean filter, and url-blacklist) to add weight to declude
tests.  We have had great results with these two tests and if they were in
the weighting systen I think it would help.  I'm not sure which part of
imail's tests get run before control is passed to declude, but it seems if
these are, declude shouldbe able to use them in the weighting system...

Is anyone doing anything like this?  Or and I off base and duplicating
something that declude already offers...?





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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Weighting based on some Imail Tests...?

2006-11-08 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
The traditional answer on this is that IMail does not mark up the header
until after Declude returns control of the message to it, so therefore,
Declude can not leverage any of the tests that IMail does.

That does not stop you from using any of the IMail features though if
you want to think of them as separate layers. I'd suggest that the
blacklist tests at least are best run in Declude only.

Andrew 8)



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 Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:10 AM
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 Tests...?
 
 Jim,
 
 It depends on the Imail test -Some are processed before 
 Declude.  I am not exactly sure which ones run before Declude 
 as I do not use any of the Imail tests.
 
 Processing Order for IMail
 Both IMail and Declude have a number of different tests that 
 they run on email. The order used is as follows:
 
   1.. IMail's Control Access file (to block IPs)
 
   2.. IMail's Kill List (to block return addresses)
 
   3.. IMail v8 anti-spam (most tests)
 
   4.. Declude Virus
 
   5.. Declude Hijack
 
   6.. Declude JunkMail
 
   7.. IMail's filters and extra IMail v8 anti-spam tests
 
 Darrell
 
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 Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for 
 Declude And Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, 
 SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.
 - Original Message -
 From: Jim Comerford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 1:10 PM
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Weighting based on some Imail Tests...?
 
 
 I'm relatively new to Declude, but have been using Imail and 
 many of its test for quite a while.
 
 I'm curious if it is possible to use some of imail's antispam 
 tests (specifically Baysean filter, and url-blacklist) to add 
 weight to declude tests.  We have had great results with 
 these two tests and if they were in the weighting systen I 
 think it would help.  I'm not sure which part of imail's 
 tests get run before control is passed to declude, but it 
 seems if these are, declude shouldbe able to use them in the 
 weighting system...
 
 Is anyone doing anything like this?  Or and I off base and 
 duplicating something that declude already offers...?
 
 
 
 
 
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