[Declude.JunkMail] Weighting based on some Imail Tests...?
I'm relatively new to Declude, but have been using Imail and many of its test for quite a while. I'm curious if it is possible to use some of imail's antispam tests (specifically Baysean filter, and url-blacklist) to add weight to declude tests. We have had great results with these two tests and if they were in the weighting systen I think it would help. I'm not sure which part of imail's tests get run before control is passed to declude, but it seems if these are, declude shouldbe able to use them in the weighting system... Is anyone doing anything like this? Or and I off base and duplicating something that declude already offers...? --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Weighting based on some Imail Tests...?
You can get much of the Bayesian filtering results from Sniffer, and Sniffer and invURIBL can be used to filter based on urls in the content. These are external tests, to cover functionality not built into Declude. Darin. - Original Message - From: Jim Comerford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 1:10 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Weighting based on some Imail Tests...? I'm relatively new to Declude, but have been using Imail and many of its test for quite a while. I'm curious if it is possible to use some of imail's antispam tests (specifically Baysean filter, and url-blacklist) to add weight to declude tests. We have had great results with these two tests and if they were in the weighting systen I think it would help. I'm not sure which part of imail's tests get run before control is passed to declude, but it seems if these are, declude shouldbe able to use them in the weighting system... Is anyone doing anything like this? Or and I off base and duplicating something that declude already offers...? --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Weighting based on some Imail Tests...?
Jim, It depends on the Imail test -Some are processed before Declude. I am not exactly sure which ones run before Declude as I do not use any of the Imail tests. Processing Order for IMail Both IMail and Declude have a number of different tests that they run on email. The order used is as follows: 1.. IMail's Control Access file (to block IPs) 2.. IMail's Kill List (to block return addresses) 3.. IMail v8 anti-spam (most tests) 4.. Declude Virus 5.. Declude Hijack 6.. Declude JunkMail 7.. IMail's filters and extra IMail v8 anti-spam tests Darrell Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. - Original Message - From: Jim Comerford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 1:10 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Weighting based on some Imail Tests...? I'm relatively new to Declude, but have been using Imail and many of its test for quite a while. I'm curious if it is possible to use some of imail's antispam tests (specifically Baysean filter, and url-blacklist) to add weight to declude tests. We have had great results with these two tests and if they were in the weighting systen I think it would help. I'm not sure which part of imail's tests get run before control is passed to declude, but it seems if these are, declude shouldbe able to use them in the weighting system... Is anyone doing anything like this? Or and I off base and duplicating something that declude already offers...? --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Weighting based on some Imail Tests...?
The traditional answer on this is that IMail does not mark up the header until after Declude returns control of the message to it, so therefore, Declude can not leverage any of the tests that IMail does. That does not stop you from using any of the IMail features though if you want to think of them as separate layers. I'd suggest that the blacklist tests at least are best run in Declude only. Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:10 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Weighting based on some Imail Tests...? Jim, It depends on the Imail test -Some are processed before Declude. I am not exactly sure which ones run before Declude as I do not use any of the Imail tests. Processing Order for IMail Both IMail and Declude have a number of different tests that they run on email. The order used is as follows: 1.. IMail's Control Access file (to block IPs) 2.. IMail's Kill List (to block return addresses) 3.. IMail v8 anti-spam (most tests) 4.. Declude Virus 5.. Declude Hijack 6.. Declude JunkMail 7.. IMail's filters and extra IMail v8 anti-spam tests Darrell -- -- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. - Original Message - From: Jim Comerford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 1:10 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Weighting based on some Imail Tests...? I'm relatively new to Declude, but have been using Imail and many of its test for quite a while. I'm curious if it is possible to use some of imail's antispam tests (specifically Baysean filter, and url-blacklist) to add weight to declude tests. We have had great results with these two tests and if they were in the weighting systen I think it would help. I'm not sure which part of imail's tests get run before control is passed to declude, but it seems if these are, declude shouldbe able to use them in the weighting system... Is anyone doing anything like this? Or and I off base and duplicating something that declude already offers...? --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.