Re: [Declude.JunkMail] client Question
At 08:15 PM 10/24/02, you wrote: Thats correct...It reads it each time a message is received. We plan to work on a similar tool using ASP here in the next month or two. Bill ASP?arg... just kiddin' I'll do the CF thingy sounds like a good test..I like it.(if said correctly, it sounds coo)... --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] client Question
We're developing an ASP solution for this as well, initially just modifying the users $default$.junkmail file and providing WARN/SUBJECT changes initially, then progressing onto WEIGHT change etc. later. If we offer too much at first otherwise we make a rod for our own back and drown in client support questions. The difficult bit is ensuring it's done in a secure manner. We're toying with a ASP.NET solution using web services. Will keep you informed of progress if interested. David WiSS Limited -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-owner;declude.com] On Behalf Of grb Sent: 25 October 2002 07:21 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] client Question At 08:15 PM 10/24/02, you wrote: Thats correct...It reads it each time a message is received. We plan to work on a similar tool using ASP here in the next month or two. Bill ASP?arg... just kiddin' I'll do the CF thingy sounds like a good test..I like it.(if said correctly, it sounds coo)... --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] client Question
Ok, Sounds like everyone is building a tool of some sort, might no hurt to get some collaboration going. I recently posted a link to a spam reviewing ASP app, and I am working on a way to modify the users rules files to filter based on a standard declude config. If any ASP developers want a look at my code and what I've done and am working on, for collaboration, or if you'd just like input from an outside source on your app, fell free to drop me a line. The info again: http://spamreview.argolink.net email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pass: demo Info page http://spamreview.argolink.net/doc Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-owner;declude.com]On Behalf Of David Lewis-Waller Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 5:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] client Question We're developing an ASP solution for this as well, initially just modifying the users $default$.junkmail file and providing WARN/SUBJECT changes initially, then progressing onto WEIGHT change etc. later. If we offer too much at first otherwise we make a rod for our own back and drown in client support questions. The difficult bit is ensuring it's done in a secure manner. We're toying with a ASP.NET solution using web services. Will keep you informed of progress if interested. David WiSS Limited -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-owner;declude.com] On Behalf Of grb Sent: 25 October 2002 07:21 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] client Question At 08:15 PM 10/24/02, you wrote: Thats correct...It reads it each time a message is received. We plan to work on a similar tool using ASP here in the next month or two. Bill ASP?arg... just kiddin' I'll do the CF thingy sounds like a good test..I like it.(if said correctly, it sounds coo)... --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] client Question
I had a similar situation with a client who uses VPop to pop a common mail box and sort it localy, not only that, their email, which he says is very critical, is running on a 486 (and he is very proud of that fact)... well anyway... I disabled the filtering for his domain, he called the next day and retracted his doubt. Have a great day! Rick Davidson Buckeye Internet Services www.buckeyeweb.com 440-953-1900 - - Original Message - From: grb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:44 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] client Question This is a little off topic, but related to a customer service question concerning declude. What I have is one client out of about 80 that swears that declude is a piece of junk and does not work. In trying to explain to this client how declude works and the weighting system I run into a stumbling block. They are using a email system called Time Matters which does not show headers or header information, so when I try to explain that I need to see the email and the related header information to see the tests that have failed, I have nothing to go on to illustrate this. This seems to be an issue in Outlook also. Does anyone have any ideas of how to explain solve this issue of trying to illustrate this to this client or has anyone had experience with Time Matters...I have not had any luck with the support staff with time matters. If anyone has anything written or can point me in a directions of an article on how declude works that maybe this guy can understand, it would be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance GB --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] client Question
This is a little off topic, but related to a customer service question concerning declude. What I have is one client out of about 80 that swears that declude is a piece of junk and does not work. In trying to explain to this client how declude works and the weighting system I run into a stumbling block. They are using a email system called Time Matters which does not show headers or header information, so when I try to explain that I need to see the email and the related header information to see the tests that have failed, I have nothing to go on to illustrate this. This seems to be an issue in Outlook also. Does anyone have any ideas of how to explain solve this issue of trying to illustrate this to this client or has anyone had experience with Time Matters...I have not had any luck with the support staff with time matters. If anyone has anything written or can point me in a directions of an article on how declude works that maybe this guy can understand, it would be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance GB --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] client Question
I use the following line in my $default$.junkmail to change the subject for quick testing and demos to customers. Once they decide they like what they see it can be changed to delete or left for them to use email client rules. WEIGHT18 SUBJECT SPAM[%WEIGHT%-%TESTSFAILED%]: Darin. - Original Message - From: Rick Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] client Question I had a similar situation with a client who uses VPop to pop a common mail box and sort it localy, not only that, their email, which he says is very critical, is running on a 486 (and he is very proud of that fact)... well anyway... I disabled the filtering for his domain, he called the next day and retracted his doubt. Have a great day! Rick Davidson Buckeye Internet Services www.buckeyeweb.com 440-953-1900 - - Original Message - From: grb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:44 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] client Question This is a little off topic, but related to a customer service question concerning declude. What I have is one client out of about 80 that swears that declude is a piece of junk and does not work. In trying to explain to this client how declude works and the weighting system I run into a stumbling block. They are using a email system called Time Matters which does not show headers or header information, so when I try to explain that I need to see the email and the related header information to see the tests that have failed, I have nothing to go on to illustrate this. This seems to be an issue in Outlook also. Does anyone have any ideas of how to explain solve this issue of trying to illustrate this to this client or has anyone had experience with Time Matters...I have not had any luck with the support staff with time matters. If anyone has anything written or can point me in a directions of an article on how declude works that maybe this guy can understand, it would be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance GB --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] client Question
At 02:44 PM 10/24/2002 -0500, grb wrote: What I have is one client out of about 80 that swears that declude is a piece of junk and does not work. I don't have a client that uses that software, but I do have one that insisted the filtering was bad and they were getting more Spam then ever before. So I suggested they drop the filter, which they did. 48 hours later they wanted back on Declude and took the time to read our filter request page and fill it out. The previous Spam filtering we were doing didn't give the customer the option of setting their own filters. Many now leave things at the default for the server, others have refined their filters to their liking. Still others don't have any idea what the filters do, and what they don't understand is a bad thing. Offer them a run for a couple of days outside the filter and they'll get the picture. -- Rich Griebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kendra.com Scanned for Viruses using Declude and F-Prot --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] client Question
Just a note of appreciation. I want to thank everyone for their suggestionsand they were all great and I will use them to illustrate the effectiveness of the software Over the last nine years of web development, hosting, etcI have been subscribed to many lists for support. Cold Fusion from NT side, Netcloak from the Mac side, Graphics software.and many more. I must say, this is as good, if not better and as professional a group of users as I have been associated with... thanks again for all your support and quick responses and also to the declude developers and their strong support of a productit takes a lot of non-billable hours to support such a product... Thanks again guys and girls... Glenn Brooks WebWize, Inc. At 07:10 PM 10/24/02, you wrote: At 02:44 PM 10/24/2002 -0500, grb wrote: What I have is one client out of about 80 that swears that declude is a piece of junk and does not work. I don't have a client that uses that software, but I do have one that insisted the filtering was bad and they were getting more Spam then ever before. So I suggested they drop the filter, which they did. 48 hours later they wanted back on Declude and took the time to read our filter request page and fill it out. The previous Spam filtering we were doing didn't give the customer the option of setting their own filters. Many now leave things at the default for the server, others have refined their filters to their liking. Still others don't have any idea what the filters do, and what they don't understand is a bad thing. Offer them a run for a couple of days outside the filter and they'll get the picture. -- Rich Griebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kendra.com Scanned for Viruses using Declude and F-Prot --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] client Question
Hey Rich, Not sure I understand you correctly, are you offering a system in which a client can adjust their weighting on their own? If so, do you have an example of this feature of your service? This sounds great. After reading this, you got me thinking, I could write a Cold Fusion application that could create weighting through a Access DB and client based admin systemhas someone already done this...if not, I may be able to come up with something for those running Cold Fusion. for those that run CF, my email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] if ya'll want to discuss this. If I understand declude correctly, if a change is made to the default or global file within a given directory, we do not have to restart the smtp service with Imail or restart the smtp service under the services control panel, correct? Declude pulls these files each time and would read any change that is made on the fly, correct? thanks gb The previous Spam filtering we were doing didn't give the customer the option of setting their own filters. Many now leave things at the default for the server, others have refined their filters to their liking. Still others don't have any idea what the filters do, and what they don't understand is a bad thing. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] client Question
Thats correct...It reads it each time a message is received. We plan to work on a similar tool using ASP here in the next month or two. Bill -Original Message- From: grb Sent: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 19:54:47 -0500 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] client Question Hey Rich, Not sure I understand you correctly, are you offering a system in which a client can adjust their weighting on their own? If so, do you have an example of this feature of your service? This sounds great. After reading this, you got me thinking, I could write a Cold Fusion application that could create weighting through a Access DB and client based admin systemhas someone already done this...if not, I may be able to come up with something for those running Cold Fusion. for those that run CF, my email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] if ya'll want to discuss this. If I understand declude correctly, if a change is made to the default or global file within a given directory, we do not have to restart the smtp service with Imail or restart the smtp service under the services control panel, correct? Declude pulls these files each time and would read any change that is made on the fly, correct? thanks gb The previous Spam filtering we were doing didn't give the customer the option of setting their own filters. Many now leave things at the default for the server, others have refined their filters to their liking. Still others don't have any idea what the filters do, and what they don't understand is a bad thing. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
