re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail?
I've been using Declude with SmarterMail for about six weeks. I'm generally pleased with the results except for some minor problems. Two problems that I've run into that I can't seem to get resolution from Declude support are: 1. When certain spams are sent to multiple addresses on the server, only one EML file is generated. This sets up an error where Declude detects the spam, tries to move it to the hold directory, but since there are multiple instances, the next person in the BCC still gets the spam because Declude has already moved the original EML file and thinks it is gone. 2. There are occurrances where the blacklist tests done by Declude (basically anything that needs a DNS lookup) fail, yet the same message is caught by the same blacklists tests done by SmarterMail. Overall though, Declude is definitely blocking more spam than SmarterMail would do alone. Gary Steiner Original Message > From: "Dave Beckstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 4:00 PM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail? > > I'm looking for some feedback on using declude with smartermail. Is anybody > running that combination? > > How is it working and how is the performance? > > Have you encountered any problems or shortcomings? Would you recommend > Declude to smartermail administrators? > > > > --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail?
This is not a Declude issue, but a SmarterMail issue. John T eServices For You > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 4:18 PM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail? > > That is a big gaping hole in my opinion. Guess I'll look for another > solution as I don't think I can wait for declude to get around to fixing > this oversight. > > Thanks for your feedback. > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee > > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 3:13 PM > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail? > > > > Biggest issues is the lack of WHITELIST AUTH. I confirmed last week with > > SMarterMail that that functionality will be available in the 3.0 version > > du > > out later this year. > > > > > > > > Kevin Bilbee > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 1:00 PM > > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail? > > > > > > > > > I'm looking for some feedback on using declude with smartermail. > > > Is anybody > > > running that combination? > > > > > > How is it working and how is the performance? > > > > > > Have you encountered any problems or shortcomings? Would you recommend > > > Declude to smartermail administrators? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail?
I think you have this backwards: the hang-up here isn't Declude, it's SmarterMail. I'm very interested in SmarterMail myself, but I'm not even going to try a trial until they add the AUTH feature. Ben BC Web - Original Message - From: "Dave Beckstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 4:18 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail? > That is a big gaping hole in my opinion. Guess I'll look for another > solution as I don't think I can wait for declude to get around to fixing > this oversight. > > Thanks for your feedback. > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee > > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 3:13 PM > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail? > > > > Biggest issues is the lack of WHITELIST AUTH. I confirmed last week with > > SMarterMail that that functionality will be available in the 3.0 version > > du > > out later this year. > > > > > > > > Kevin Bilbee > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 1:00 PM > > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail? > > > > > > > > > I'm looking for some feedback on using declude with smartermail. > > > Is anybody > > > running that combination? > > > > > > How is it working and how is the performance? > > > > > > Have you encountered any problems or shortcomings? Would you recommend > > > Declude to smartermail administrators? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail?
This is not an oversight in Declude as the functionality is there in imail but in SmarterMail not passing the auth info to Declude. There is nothing Declude can do until SmarterMail supplies the data to Declude. Declude and SmarterMail have both stated it will be available with SmarterMail 3.x Kevin Bilbee > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 4:18 PM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail? > > > That is a big gaping hole in my opinion. Guess I'll look for another > solution as I don't think I can wait for declude to get around to fixing > this oversight. > > Thanks for your feedback. > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee > > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 3:13 PM > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail? > > > > Biggest issues is the lack of WHITELIST AUTH. I confirmed last week with > > SMarterMail that that functionality will be available in the 3.0 version > > du > > out later this year. > > > > > > > > Kevin Bilbee > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 1:00 PM > > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail? > > > > > > > > > I'm looking for some feedback on using declude with smartermail. > > > Is anybody > > > running that combination? > > > > > > How is it working and how is the performance? > > > > > > Have you encountered any problems or shortcomings? Would you > recommend > > > Declude to smartermail administrators? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and SmarterMail?
Uh, it is not a Declude issue but rather SmarterMail does not support it. John T eServices For You > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 4:18 PM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail? > > That is a big gaping hole in my opinion. Guess I'll look for another > solution as I don't think I can wait for declude to get around to fixing > this oversight. > > Thanks for your feedback. > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee > > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 3:13 PM > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail? > > > > Biggest issues is the lack of WHITELIST AUTH. I confirmed last week with > > SMarterMail that that functionality will be available in the 3.0 version > > du > > out later this year. > > > > > > > > Kevin Bilbee > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 1:00 PM > > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail? > > > > > > > > > I'm looking for some feedback on using declude with smartermail. > > > Is anybody > > > running that combination? > > > > > > How is it working and how is the performance? > > > > > > Have you encountered any problems or shortcomings? Would you recommend > > > Declude to smartermail administrators? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail?
That is a big gaping hole in my opinion. Guess I'll look for another solution as I don't think I can wait for declude to get around to fixing this oversight. Thanks for your feedback. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 3:13 PM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail? > > Biggest issues is the lack of WHITELIST AUTH. I confirmed last week with > SMarterMail that that functionality will be available in the 3.0 version > du > out later this year. > > > > Kevin Bilbee > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom > > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 1:00 PM > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail? > > > > > > I'm looking for some feedback on using declude with smartermail. > > Is anybody > > running that combination? > > > > How is it working and how is the performance? > > > > Have you encountered any problems or shortcomings? Would you recommend > > Declude to smartermail administrators? > > > > > > > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail?
Biggest issues is the lack of WHITELIST AUTH. I confirmed last week with SMarterMail that that functionality will be available in the 3.0 version du out later this year. Kevin Bilbee > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 1:00 PM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail? > > > I'm looking for some feedback on using declude with smartermail. > Is anybody > running that combination? > > How is it working and how is the performance? > > Have you encountered any problems or shortcomings? Would you recommend > Declude to smartermail administrators? > > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and SmarterMail
Peter, Contact me off list re trial for Declude/SmarterMail. Barry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mailing Lists Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 7:37 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and SmarterMail Is anyone using Declude and SmarterMail? Can you share your experience? We need to migrate off from Imail to SM and were waiting for SM support in Declude and wanted to test drive them before we made the move. Since there is no trial for Declude for SM I wanted to get some feedback from customers. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks Peter
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail
Hey I am not complaining, I was just stating that I had indeed followed procedures ): - Original Message - From: Darin Cox To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail I think we should all expect a little slower resolution to issues with a beta product over the holidays...people do want to spend time with families after all... Darin. - Original Message - From: Mailing Lists To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail Barry, I did request a beta and you personally actually gave me the codes ): I wont post them here for obvious purposes. I then filed a bug, actually Declude/SM didnt work at all on our lab server - tkt number is IGG-76544 opened on 12/20 On 12/23 tkt was updated by Declude, saying that there was an issue with 2.0b that could cause the problem I had posted in tkt, On 12/27 I asked if a new executable had been uploaded, and was told no. I hope this clarifies that I did indeed read the pre-Xmas post and did indeed follow those instructions. I think there may be a communications problem within Declude (compare the tkt to this post): Peter - Original Message - From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:44 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail > As I posted before Christmas:> > Beta Trial Installs> > Issue - The availability of the Beta Trial software for Declude and> SmarterMail.> > We specified clearly in our email to all customers, posted on the Home page> of our web site and at the point of download the only permissible manner in> which we would accept participants for this important process. > > "Declude Beta Release for SmarterMail - For those of you who wish to try the> Beta version of Declude for SmarterMail please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with> your name, organization, email address, email system host name, operating> system and telephone number and we will contact you. No keys will be issued> in the short term without going through this process."> > Resolution - We are now restricting all downloads to those who follow the> request procedures> ___> > The issue still remains that customers did not follow the procedures so we> are emailing customers direct with the exe files necessary to install the> beta software.> > The exe is being updated each time we resolve an issue and it is more> appropriate to manage the process in this way.> > I hope this clarifies the position.> > Barry> > > -Original Message-> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mailing Lists> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:16 PM> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail> > Where is the beta download, it seems like it was removed last week from > download section.> > We signed up for beta testing, though SM and Declude didnt work at all for > us. According to Scott it was a known issue and new version was to be > uploaded that day. Am I missing something, I am really anxious to see if > this works out for us?> > Peter> > - Original Message ----- > From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:00 PM> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail> > >> There should be NO production Declude/SmarterMail installations as we are>> still in Beta mode and we are not recommending anyone goes into full>> production until we have completely tested the software.>>>> We are carefully rolling out this beta version to avoid greater>> complications later on.>>>> Currently the software works almost identically in SmarterMail as in IMail>> except for the following Actions:>>>> MAILBOX - This uses an IMail specific function and the ROUTETO can be used>> instead.>> BOUNCEONLYIFYOUMUST - Not available now but we are looking into this.>>>> All customers who have registered for the beta will be contacted as their>> name comes to the top of the list or their operating system and>> configuration meets our testing needs.>>>> Barry>>>> -Original Message->> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail
I think we should all expect a little slower resolution to issues with a beta product over the holidays...people do want to spend time with families after all... Darin. - Original Message - From: Mailing Lists To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail Barry, I did request a beta and you personally actually gave me the codes ): I wont post them here for obvious purposes. I then filed a bug, actually Declude/SM didnt work at all on our lab server - tkt number is IGG-76544 opened on 12/20 On 12/23 tkt was updated by Declude, saying that there was an issue with 2.0b that could cause the problem I had posted in tkt, On 12/27 I asked if a new executable had been uploaded, and was told no. I hope this clarifies that I did indeed read the pre-Xmas post and did indeed follow those instructions. I think there may be a communications problem within Declude (compare the tkt to this post): Peter - Original Message - From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:44 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail > As I posted before Christmas:> > Beta Trial Installs> > Issue - The availability of the Beta Trial software for Declude and> SmarterMail.> > We specified clearly in our email to all customers, posted on the Home page> of our web site and at the point of download the only permissible manner in> which we would accept participants for this important process. > > "Declude Beta Release for SmarterMail - For those of you who wish to try the> Beta version of Declude for SmarterMail please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with> your name, organization, email address, email system host name, operating> system and telephone number and we will contact you. No keys will be issued> in the short term without going through this process."> > Resolution - We are now restricting all downloads to those who follow the> request procedures> ___> > The issue still remains that customers did not follow the procedures so we> are emailing customers direct with the exe files necessary to install the> beta software.> > The exe is being updated each time we resolve an issue and it is more> appropriate to manage the process in this way.> > I hope this clarifies the position.> > Barry> > > -Original Message-> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mailing Lists> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:16 PM> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail> > Where is the beta download, it seems like it was removed last week from > download section.> > We signed up for beta testing, though SM and Declude didnt work at all for > us. According to Scott it was a known issue and new version was to be > uploaded that day. Am I missing something, I am really anxious to see if > this works out for us?> > Peter> > - Original Message - > From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:00 PM> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail> > >> There should be NO production Declude/SmarterMail installations as we are>> still in Beta mode and we are not recommending anyone goes into full>> production until we have completely tested the software.>>>> We are carefully rolling out this beta version to avoid greater>> complications later on.>>>> Currently the software works almost identically in SmarterMail as in IMail>> except for the following Actions:>>>> MAILBOX - This uses an IMail specific function and the ROUTETO can be used>> instead.>> BOUNCEONLYIFYOUMUST - Not available now but we are looking into this.>>>> All customers who have registered for the beta will be contacted as their>> name comes to the top of the list or their operating system and>> configuration meets our testing needs.>>>> Barry>>>> -Original Message->> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua Levitsky>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:43 AM>> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail>>>> Harry Palmer wrote:>>>>>> Does anyone actually have a production Smarter Mail/Declude server in>>> use?>>>>>> We have a production SmarterMail server hosting 27 sites with 1800+>>> users. SmarterMail r
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail
Barry, I did request a beta and you personally actually gave me the codes ): I wont post them here for obvious purposes. I then filed a bug, actually Declude/SM didnt work at all on our lab server - tkt number is IGG-76544 opened on 12/20 On 12/23 tkt was updated by Declude, saying that there was an issue with 2.0b that could cause the problem I had posted in tkt, On 12/27 I asked if a new executable had been uploaded, and was told no. I hope this clarifies that I did indeed read the pre-Xmas post and did indeed follow those instructions. I think there may be a communications problem within Declude (compare the tkt to this post): Peter - Original Message - From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:44 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail > As I posted before Christmas:> > Beta Trial Installs> > Issue - The availability of the Beta Trial software for Declude and> SmarterMail.> > We specified clearly in our email to all customers, posted on the Home page> of our web site and at the point of download the only permissible manner in> which we would accept participants for this important process. > > "Declude Beta Release for SmarterMail - For those of you who wish to try the> Beta version of Declude for SmarterMail please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with> your name, organization, email address, email system host name, operating> system and telephone number and we will contact you. No keys will be issued> in the short term without going through this process."> > Resolution - We are now restricting all downloads to those who follow the> request procedures> ___> > The issue still remains that customers did not follow the procedures so we> are emailing customers direct with the exe files necessary to install the> beta software.> > The exe is being updated each time we resolve an issue and it is more> appropriate to manage the process in this way.> > I hope this clarifies the position.> > Barry> > > -Original Message-> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mailing Lists> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:16 PM> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail> > Where is the beta download, it seems like it was removed last week from > download section.> > We signed up for beta testing, though SM and Declude didnt work at all for > us. According to Scott it was a known issue and new version was to be > uploaded that day. Am I missing something, I am really anxious to see if > this works out for us?> > Peter> > - Original Message - > From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:00 PM> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail> > >> There should be NO production Declude/SmarterMail installations as we are>> still in Beta mode and we are not recommending anyone goes into full>> production until we have completely tested the software.>>>> We are carefully rolling out this beta version to avoid greater>> complications later on.>>>> Currently the software works almost identically in SmarterMail as in IMail>> except for the following Actions:>>>> MAILBOX - This uses an IMail specific function and the ROUTETO can be used>> instead.>> BOUNCEONLYIFYOUMUST - Not available now but we are looking into this.>>>> All customers who have registered for the beta will be contacted as their>> name comes to the top of the list or their operating system and>> configuration meets our testing needs.>>>> Barry>>>> -Original Message->> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua Levitsky>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:43 AM>> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail>>>> Harry Palmer wrote:>>>>>> Does anyone actually have a production Smarter Mail/Declude server in>>> use?>>>>>> We have a production SmarterMail server hosting 27 sites with 1800+>>> users. SmarterMail replaced IMail here on December 14, 2004.>>> SmarterMail performance has been very good. We tested Declude with>>> SmarterMail and identified some issues, so we are awaiting the next>>> release of Declude before deploying it on the production SmarterMail>>> server.>>>> Can I ask... (if you can't say
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail
As I posted before Christmas: Beta Trial Installs Issue - The availability of the Beta Trial software for Declude and SmarterMail. We specified clearly in our email to all customers, posted on the Home page of our web site and at the point of download the only permissible manner in which we would accept participants for this important process. "Declude Beta Release for SmarterMail - For those of you who wish to try the Beta version of Declude for SmarterMail please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with your name, organization, email address, email system host name, operating system and telephone number and we will contact you. No keys will be issued in the short term without going through this process." Resolution - We are now restricting all downloads to those who follow the request procedures ___ The issue still remains that customers did not follow the procedures so we are emailing customers direct with the exe files necessary to install the beta software. The exe is being updated each time we resolve an issue and it is more appropriate to manage the process in this way. I hope this clarifies the position. Barry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mailing Lists Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:16 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail Where is the beta download, it seems like it was removed last week from download section. We signed up for beta testing, though SM and Declude didnt work at all for us. According to Scott it was a known issue and new version was to be uploaded that day. Am I missing something, I am really anxious to see if this works out for us? Peter - Original Message - From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:00 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail > There should be NO production Declude/SmarterMail installations as we are > still in Beta mode and we are not recommending anyone goes into full > production until we have completely tested the software. > > We are carefully rolling out this beta version to avoid greater > complications later on. > > Currently the software works almost identically in SmarterMail as in IMail > except for the following Actions: > > MAILBOX - This uses an IMail specific function and the ROUTETO can be used > instead. > BOUNCEONLYIFYOUMUST - Not available now but we are looking into this. > > All customers who have registered for the beta will be contacted as their > name comes to the top of the list or their operating system and > configuration meets our testing needs. > > Barry > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua Levitsky > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:43 AM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail > > Harry Palmer wrote: > >>> Does anyone actually have a production Smarter Mail/Declude server in >> use? >> >> We have a production SmarterMail server hosting 27 sites with 1800+ >> users. SmarterMail replaced IMail here on December 14, 2004. >> SmarterMail performance has been very good. We tested Declude with >> SmarterMail and identified some issues, so we are awaiting the next >> release of Declude before deploying it on the production SmarterMail >> server. > > Can I ask... (if you can't say it's ok)... does it hook in directly to > SmarterMail and can do all the actions just like with IMail? Or is it an > exe that runs when mail comes in and all it can do is delete mail? I'm > using a scanner now that does ClamAV + SpamAssassin but all that can do > really is delete mail .. nothing fancy. > > -Josh > > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail
Where is the beta download, it seems like it was removed last week from download section. We signed up for beta testing, though SM and Declude didnt work at all for us. According to Scott it was a known issue and new version was to be uploaded that day. Am I missing something, I am really anxious to see if this works out for us? Peter - Original Message - From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:00 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail There should be NO production Declude/SmarterMail installations as we are still in Beta mode and we are not recommending anyone goes into full production until we have completely tested the software. We are carefully rolling out this beta version to avoid greater complications later on. Currently the software works almost identically in SmarterMail as in IMail except for the following Actions: MAILBOX - This uses an IMail specific function and the ROUTETO can be used instead. BOUNCEONLYIFYOUMUST - Not available now but we are looking into this. All customers who have registered for the beta will be contacted as their name comes to the top of the list or their operating system and configuration meets our testing needs. Barry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua Levitsky Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:43 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail Harry Palmer wrote: Does anyone actually have a production Smarter Mail/Declude server in use? We have a production SmarterMail server hosting 27 sites with 1800+ users. SmarterMail replaced IMail here on December 14, 2004. SmarterMail performance has been very good. We tested Declude with SmarterMail and identified some issues, so we are awaiting the next release of Declude before deploying it on the production SmarterMail server. Can I ask... (if you can't say it's ok)... does it hook in directly to SmarterMail and can do all the actions just like with IMail? Or is it an exe that runs when mail comes in and all it can do is delete mail? I'm using a scanner now that does ClamAV + SpamAssassin but all that can do really is delete mail .. nothing fancy. -Josh --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail
There should be NO production Declude/SmarterMail installations as we are still in Beta mode and we are not recommending anyone goes into full production until we have completely tested the software. We are carefully rolling out this beta version to avoid greater complications later on. Currently the software works almost identically in SmarterMail as in IMail except for the following Actions: MAILBOX - This uses an IMail specific function and the ROUTETO can be used instead. BOUNCEONLYIFYOUMUST - Not available now but we are looking into this. All customers who have registered for the beta will be contacted as their name comes to the top of the list or their operating system and configuration meets our testing needs. Barry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua Levitsky Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:43 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail Harry Palmer wrote: >> Does anyone actually have a production Smarter Mail/Declude server in > use? > > We have a production SmarterMail server hosting 27 sites with 1800+ > users. SmarterMail replaced IMail here on December 14, 2004. > SmarterMail performance has been very good. We tested Declude with > SmarterMail and identified some issues, so we are awaiting the next > release of Declude before deploying it on the production SmarterMail > server. Can I ask... (if you can't say it's ok)... does it hook in directly to SmarterMail and can do all the actions just like with IMail? Or is it an exe that runs when mail comes in and all it can do is delete mail? I'm using a scanner now that does ClamAV + SpamAssassin but all that can do really is delete mail .. nothing fancy. -Josh --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail
Can I ask... (if you can't say it's ok)... does it hook in directly to SmarterMail and can do all the actions just like with IMail? Or is it an exe that runs when mail comes in and all it can do is delete mail? I'm using a scanner now that does ClamAV + SpamAssassin but all that can do really is delete mail .. nothing fancy. This is a good question. I guess what we would all like to know is, does Declude Junkmail work the same way with SmarterMail as it did/does with Imail. Can we use the same filters, tests, etc? Sharyn We are the worldwide producer and marketer of the award winning Cruzan Single Barrel Rum, judged "Best in the World" at the annual San Francisco Wine and Spirits Championships. For more information, please click (go to) http://www.cruzanrums.com";>www.cruzanrums.com --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail
Harry Palmer wrote: Does anyone actually have a production Smarter Mail/Declude server in use? We have a production SmarterMail server hosting 27 sites with 1800+ users. SmarterMail replaced IMail here on December 14, 2004. SmarterMail performance has been very good. We tested Declude with SmarterMail and identified some issues, so we are awaiting the next release of Declude before deploying it on the production SmarterMail server. Can I ask... (if you can't say it's ok)... does it hook in directly to SmarterMail and can do all the actions just like with IMail? Or is it an exe that runs when mail comes in and all it can do is delete mail? I'm using a scanner now that does ClamAV + SpamAssassin but all that can do really is delete mail .. nothing fancy. -Josh --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Smartermail
Title: Declude and Smartermail > Does anyone actually have a production Smarter Mail/Declude server in use? We have a production SmarterMail server hosting 27 sites with 1800+ users. SmarterMail replaced IMail here on December 14, 2004. SmarterMail performance has been very good. We tested Declude with SmarterMail and identified some issues, so we are awaiting the next release of Declude before deploying it on the production SmarterMail server.
