Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail?
Kevin, Declude running with SmarterMail does integrate into the SmarterMail spam blocking configuration so that isn't an issue. For a gateway though, this solution would in fact seem to be a reasonably good solution, and it wouldn't be that difficult to do. Matt Kevin Bilbee wrote: Question does anyone know of how SmarterMail processes messages. A program could be created that could process mail based on the “Command-line file to run on new mail” if Declude runs before the command line program then this could read the Declude gateway inserted header then add the Declude .hdr field to email .hdr file on the local server. If Declude runs after the command line program then it will not work Kevin Bilbee From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Strother Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 12:15 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? The problem is we have over 10,000 webmail users. Teaching them to setup filters is not easy. They’re used to seeing the integrated SmarterMail SPAM filtering options. I think Matt has a good idea. A very simple lightweight filter than runs on the SmarterMail server. It would look at the Declude score in the headers and pass the appropriate score to SmarterMail. If something like this existed we’d have reason to buy two more licenses for Declude. Until then I guess we’ll have to continue running Declude on the SmarterMail server itself. Ideally I’d like to move this load to a couple gateway servers. Mark Strother Pacific Online Phone: 604-638-6010 ext. 222 Fax: 604-638-6020 Toll Free: 1-877-503-9870 http://www.pacificonline.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 11:35 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? SmarterMail content filters can easily search headers … I have been doing this for weeks without issue. Thanks! - Jay Sudowski // Handy Networks LLC Director of Technical Operations Providing Shared, Reseller, Semi Managed and Fully Managed Windows 2003 Hosting Solutions Tel: 877-70 HANDY x882 | Fax: 888-300-2FAX www.handynetworks.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 1:27 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? It would be nice if SmarterTools would introduce a simple scoreable text filter that could search at least the headers. That way a score could be passed from any gateway to SmarterMail for actions. Matt Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC wrote: I can confirm this is the only way it will work. Declude communicates the score directly to SmarterMail in a way that breaks when a message has been relayed from a gateway server. In such instances, it's necessary to setup SmarterMail content filter rules based up your Declude inserted headers and set the appropriate actions. -Jay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John T (Lists) Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 3:37 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? I think what he means is serverA is doing the scanning and then the message is sent to serverB and he wants serverB to know what the score was and to take action. Why not add a custom header line with the total weight via Declude and then set up the rules on serverB to look for that line in the header. John T eServices For You "Seek, and ye shall find!" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:51 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? It is passed int the .hdr file. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Strother Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:03 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? Could someone explain to me how the message score is passed to SmarterMail? I would like to set up a SmarterMail server, running Declude, as a gateway for our mail. The problem with this setup is, in my tests, SmarterMail doesn't recognize the Declude scores
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail?
Question does anyone know of how SmarterMail processes messages. A program could be created that could process mail based on the “Command-line file to run on new mail” if Declude runs before the command line program then this could read the Declude gateway inserted header then add the Declude .hdr field to email .hdr file on the local server. If Declude runs after the command line program then it will not work Kevin Bilbee From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Strother Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 12:15 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? The problem is we have over 10,000 webmail users. Teaching them to setup filters is not easy. They’re used to seeing the integrated SmarterMail SPAM filtering options. I think Matt has a good idea. A very simple lightweight filter than runs on the SmarterMail server. It would look at the Declude score in the headers and pass the appropriate score to SmarterMail. If something like this existed we’d have reason to buy two more licenses for Declude. Until then I guess we’ll have to continue running Declude on the SmarterMail server itself. Ideally I’d like to move this load to a couple gateway servers. Mark Strother Pacific Online Phone: 604-638-6010 ext. 222 Fax: 604-638-6020 Toll Free: 1-877-503-9870 http://www.pacificonline.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 11:35 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? SmarterMail content filters can easily search headers … I have been doing this for weeks without issue. Thanks! - Jay Sudowski // Handy Networks LLC Director of Technical Operations Providing Shared, Reseller, Semi Managed and Fully Managed Windows 2003 Hosting Solutions Tel: 877-70 HANDY x882 | Fax: 888-300-2FAX www.handynetworks.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 1:27 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? It would be nice if SmarterTools would introduce a simple scoreable text filter that could search at least the headers. That way a score could be passed from any gateway to SmarterMail for actions. Matt Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC wrote: I can confirm this is the only way it will work. Declude communicatesthe score directly to SmarterMail in a way that breaks when a messagehas been relayed from a gateway server. In such instances, it'snecessary to setup SmarterMail content filter rules based up yourDeclude inserted headers and set the appropriate actions. -Jay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of JohnT (Lists)Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 3:37 AMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed toSmarterMail? I think what he means is serverA is doing the scanning and then themessageis sent to serverB and he wants serverB to know what the score was andtotake action. Why not add a custom header line with the total weight via Declude andthenset up the rules on serverB to look for that line in the header. John TeServices For You "Seek, and ye shall find!" -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin BilbeeSent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:51 PMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? It is passed int the .hdr file. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] OnBehalf Of Mark StrotherSent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:03 PMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed toSmarterMail? Could someone explain to me how the message score is passedto SmarterMail? I would like to set up a SmarterMail server, running Declude,as a gateway for our mail. The problem with this setup is, inmy tests, SmarterMail doesn't recognize the Declude scoreswhen they are a generated on another server. This means thatusers wouldn't be able to configure their own rules such asdelete mail if the score is >20. Is there anyway I can run Declude on my gateway server andpass the score to SmarterMail on another server? I just wantto tag the messages on the gateway machine and then let usersset custom actions using the SmarterMail interface. Any thoughts would be appreciated! Mark ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can befound at http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail?
The problem is we have over 10,000 webmail users. Teaching them to setup filters is not easy. They’re used to seeing the integrated SmarterMail SPAM filtering options. I think Matt has a good idea. A very simple lightweight filter than runs on the SmarterMail server. It would look at the Declude score in the headers and pass the appropriate score to SmarterMail. If something like this existed we’d have reason to buy two more licenses for Declude. Until then I guess we’ll have to continue running Declude on the SmarterMail server itself. Ideally I’d like to move this load to a couple gateway servers. Mark Strother Pacific Online Phone: 604-638-6010 ext. 222 Fax: 604-638-6020 Toll Free: 1-877-503-9870 http://www.pacificonline.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 11:35 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? SmarterMail content filters can easily search headers … I have been doing this for weeks without issue. Thanks! - Jay Sudowski // Handy Networks LLC Director of Technical Operations Providing Shared, Reseller, Semi Managed and Fully Managed Windows 2003 Hosting Solutions Tel: 877-70 HANDY x882 | Fax: 888-300-2FAX www.handynetworks.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 1:27 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? It would be nice if SmarterTools would introduce a simple scoreable text filter that could search at least the headers. That way a score could be passed from any gateway to SmarterMail for actions. Matt Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC wrote: I can confirm this is the only way it will work. Declude communicatesthe score directly to SmarterMail in a way that breaks when a messagehas been relayed from a gateway server. In such instances, it'snecessary to setup SmarterMail content filter rules based up yourDeclude inserted headers and set the appropriate actions. -Jay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of JohnT (Lists)Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 3:37 AMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed toSmarterMail? I think what he means is serverA is doing the scanning and then themessageis sent to serverB and he wants serverB to know what the score was andtotake action. Why not add a custom header line with the total weight via Declude andthenset up the rules on serverB to look for that line in the header. John TeServices For You "Seek, and ye shall find!" -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin BilbeeSent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:51 PMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? It is passed int the .hdr file. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] OnBehalf Of Mark StrotherSent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:03 PMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed toSmarterMail? Could someone explain to me how the message score is passedto SmarterMail? I would like to set up a SmarterMail server, running Declude,as a gateway for our mail. The problem with this setup is, inmy tests, SmarterMail doesn't recognize the Declude scoreswhen they are a generated on another server. This means thatusers wouldn't be able to configure their own rules such asdelete mail if the score is >20. Is there anyway I can run Declude on my gateway server andpass the score to SmarterMail on another server? I just wantto tag the messages on the gateway machine and then let usersset custom actions using the SmarterMail interface. Any thoughts would be appreciated! Mark ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can befound at http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail?
That's content filters and not their anti-spam stuff. There is a host of anti-spam stuff in SmarterMail that is exposed to both domain admins and individual users that could only be fully functional with such a thing. If you want to side-step the whole anti-spam thing, then you certainly can use content filters. Matt Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC wrote: SmarterMail content filters can easily search headers … I have been doing this for weeks without issue. Thanks! - Jay Sudowski // Handy Networks LLC Director of Technical Operations Providing Shared, Reseller, Semi Managed and Fully Managed Windows 2003 Hosting Solutions Tel: 877-70 HANDY x882 | Fax: 888-300-2FAX www.handynetworks.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 1:27 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? It would be nice if SmarterTools would introduce a simple scoreable text filter that could search at least the headers. That way a score could be passed from any gateway to SmarterMail for actions. Matt Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC wrote: I can confirm this is the only way it will work. Declude communicates the score directly to SmarterMail in a way that breaks when a message has been relayed from a gateway server. In such instances, it's necessary to setup SmarterMail content filter rules based up your Declude inserted headers and set the appropriate actions. -Jay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John T (Lists) Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 3:37 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? I think what he means is serverA is doing the scanning and then the message is sent to serverB and he wants serverB to know what the score was and to take action. Why not add a custom header line with the total weight via Declude and then set up the rules on serverB to look for that line in the header. John T eServices For You "Seek, and ye shall find!" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:51 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? It is passed int the .hdr file. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Strother Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:03 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? Could someone explain to me how the message score is passed to SmarterMail? I would like to set up a SmarterMail server, running Declude, as a gateway for our mail. The problem with this setup is, in my tests, SmarterMail doesn't recognize the Declude scores when they are a generated on another server. This means that users wouldn't be able to configure their own rules such as delete mail if the score is >20. Is there anyway I can run Declude on my gateway server and pass the score to SmarterMail on another server? I just want to tag the messages on the gateway machine and then let users set custom actions using the SmarterMail interface. Any thoughts would be appreciated! Mark --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkM
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail?
Not necessarily. I was talking about a simple non-proprietary text filtering mechanism, and everyone could set it to be whatever they wanted. One could then pass a spam level code and add points within SmarterMail based on the presence of that code. If this was the only scoreable filter in SmarterMail, one could easily make this solid enough that it couldn't be exploited for lower points. Matt Kevin Bilbee wrote: There would have to be a way to secure something like this. If it can be added by a gateway what would stop a spammer form adding it with a -1 weight??? Kevin Bilbee From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 10:27 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? It would be nice if SmarterTools would introduce a simple scoreable text filter that could search at least the headers. That way a score could be passed from any gateway to SmarterMail for actions. Matt Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC wrote: I can confirm this is the only way it will work. Declude communicates the score directly to SmarterMail in a way that breaks when a message has been relayed from a gateway server. In such instances, it's necessary to setup SmarterMail content filter rules based up your Declude inserted headers and set the appropriate actions. -Jay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John T (Lists) Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 3:37 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? I think what he means is serverA is doing the scanning and then the message is sent to serverB and he wants serverB to know what the score was and to take action. Why not add a custom header line with the total weight via Declude and then set up the rules on serverB to look for that line in the header. John T eServices For You "Seek, and ye shall find!" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:51 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? It is passed int the .hdr file. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Strother Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:03 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? Could someone explain to me how the message score is passed to SmarterMail? I would like to set up a SmarterMail server, running Declude, as a gateway for our mail. The problem with this setup is, in my tests, SmarterMail doesn't recognize the Declude scores when they are a generated on another server. This means that users wouldn't be able to configure their own rules such as delete mail if the score is >20. Is there anyway I can run Declude on my gateway server and pass the score to SmarterMail on another server? I just want to tag the messages on the gateway machine and then let users set custom actions using the SmarterMail interface. Any thoughts would be appreciated! Mark --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail&quo
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail?
SmarterMail content filters can easily search headers … I have been doing this for weeks without issue. Thanks! - Jay Sudowski // Handy Networks LLC Director of Technical Operations Providing Shared, Reseller, Semi Managed and Fully Managed Windows 2003 Hosting Solutions Tel: 877-70 HANDY x882 | Fax: 888-300-2FAX www.handynetworks.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 1:27 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? It would be nice if SmarterTools would introduce a simple scoreable text filter that could search at least the headers. That way a score could be passed from any gateway to SmarterMail for actions. Matt Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC wrote: I can confirm this is the only way it will work. Declude communicatesthe score directly to SmarterMail in a way that breaks when a messagehas been relayed from a gateway server. In such instances, it'snecessary to setup SmarterMail content filter rules based up yourDeclude inserted headers and set the appropriate actions. -Jay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of JohnT (Lists)Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 3:37 AMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed toSmarterMail? I think what he means is serverA is doing the scanning and then themessageis sent to serverB and he wants serverB to know what the score was andtotake action. Why not add a custom header line with the total weight via Declude andthenset up the rules on serverB to look for that line in the header. John TeServices For You "Seek, and ye shall find!" -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin BilbeeSent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:51 PMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? It is passed int the .hdr file. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] OnBehalf Of Mark StrotherSent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:03 PMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed toSmarterMail? Could someone explain to me how the message score is passedto SmarterMail? I would like to set up a SmarterMail server, running Declude,as a gateway for our mail. The problem with this setup is, inmy tests, SmarterMail doesn't recognize the Declude scoreswhen they are a generated on another server. This means thatusers wouldn't be able to configure their own rules such asdelete mail if the score is >20. Is there anyway I can run Declude on my gateway server andpass the score to SmarterMail on another server? I just wantto tag the messages on the gateway machine and then let usersset custom actions using the SmarterMail interface. Any thoughts would be appreciated! Mark ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can befound at http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail?
There would have to be a way to secure something like this. If it can be added by a gateway what would stop a spammer form adding it with a -1 weight??? Kevin Bilbee From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 10:27 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? It would be nice if SmarterTools would introduce a simple scoreable text filter that could search at least the headers. That way a score could be passed from any gateway to SmarterMail for actions. Matt Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC wrote: I can confirm this is the only way it will work. Declude communicatesthe score directly to SmarterMail in a way that breaks when a messagehas been relayed from a gateway server. In such instances, it'snecessary to setup SmarterMail content filter rules based up yourDeclude inserted headers and set the appropriate actions. -Jay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of JohnT (Lists)Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 3:37 AMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed toSmarterMail? I think what he means is serverA is doing the scanning and then themessageis sent to serverB and he wants serverB to know what the score was andtotake action. Why not add a custom header line with the total weight via Declude andthenset up the rules on serverB to look for that line in the header. John TeServices For You "Seek, and ye shall find!" -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin BilbeeSent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:51 PMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? It is passed int the .hdr file. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] OnBehalf Of Mark StrotherSent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:03 PMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed toSmarterMail? Could someone explain to me how the message score is passedto SmarterMail? I would like to set up a SmarterMail server, running Declude,as a gateway for our mail. The problem with this setup is, inmy tests, SmarterMail doesn't recognize the Declude scoreswhen they are a generated on another server. This means thatusers wouldn't be able to configure their own rules such asdelete mail if the score is >20. Is there anyway I can run Declude on my gateway server andpass the score to SmarterMail on another server? I just wantto tag the messages on the gateway machine and then let usersset custom actions using the SmarterMail interface. Any thoughts would be appreciated! Mark ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can befound at http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail?
It would be nice if SmarterTools would introduce a simple scoreable text filter that could search at least the headers. That way a score could be passed from any gateway to SmarterMail for actions. Matt Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC wrote: I can confirm this is the only way it will work. Declude communicates the score directly to SmarterMail in a way that breaks when a message has been relayed from a gateway server. In such instances, it's necessary to setup SmarterMail content filter rules based up your Declude inserted headers and set the appropriate actions. -Jay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John T (Lists) Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 3:37 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? I think what he means is serverA is doing the scanning and then the message is sent to serverB and he wants serverB to know what the score was and to take action. Why not add a custom header line with the total weight via Declude and then set up the rules on serverB to look for that line in the header. John T eServices For You "Seek, and ye shall find!" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:51 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? It is passed int the .hdr file. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Strother Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:03 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? Could someone explain to me how the message score is passed to SmarterMail? I would like to set up a SmarterMail server, running Declude, as a gateway for our mail. The problem with this setup is, in my tests, SmarterMail doesn't recognize the Declude scores when they are a generated on another server. This means that users wouldn't be able to configure their own rules such as delete mail if the score is >20. Is there anyway I can run Declude on my gateway server and pass the score to SmarterMail on another server? I just want to tag the messages on the gateway machine and then let users set custom actions using the SmarterMail interface. Any thoughts would be appreciated! Mark --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail?
I can confirm this is the only way it will work. Declude communicates the score directly to SmarterMail in a way that breaks when a message has been relayed from a gateway server. In such instances, it's necessary to setup SmarterMail content filter rules based up your Declude inserted headers and set the appropriate actions. -Jay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T (Lists) Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 3:37 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? I think what he means is serverA is doing the scanning and then the message is sent to serverB and he wants serverB to know what the score was and to take action. Why not add a custom header line with the total weight via Declude and then set up the rules on serverB to look for that line in the header. John T eServices For You "Seek, and ye shall find!" > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin > Bilbee > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:51 PM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? > > It is passed int the .hdr file. > > > Kevin Bilbee > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Mark Strother > > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:03 PM > > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to > > SmarterMail? > > > > > > Could someone explain to me how the message score is passed > > to SmarterMail? > > > > I would like to set up a SmarterMail server, running Declude, > > as a gateway for our mail. The problem with this setup is, in > > my tests, SmarterMail doesn't recognize the Declude scores > > when they are a generated on another server. This means that > > users wouldn't be able to configure their own rules such as > > delete mail if the score is >20. > > > > Is there anyway I can run Declude on my gateway server and > > pass the score to SmarterMail on another server? I just want > > to tag the messages on the gateway machine and then let users > > set custom actions using the SmarterMail interface. > > > > Any thoughts would be appreciated! > > > > Mark > > > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be > > found at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail?
I think what he means is serverA is doing the scanning and then the message is sent to serverB and he wants serverB to know what the score was and to take action. Why not add a custom header line with the total weight via Declude and then set up the rules on serverB to look for that line in the header. John T eServices For You "Seek, and ye shall find!" > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin > Bilbee > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:51 PM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail? > > It is passed int the .hdr file. > > > Kevin Bilbee > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Mark Strother > > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:03 PM > > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to > > SmarterMail? > > > > > > Could someone explain to me how the message score is passed > > to SmarterMail? > > > > I would like to set up a SmarterMail server, running Declude, > > as a gateway for our mail. The problem with this setup is, in > > my tests, SmarterMail doesn't recognize the Declude scores > > when they are a generated on another server. This means that > > users wouldn't be able to configure their own rules such as > > delete mail if the score is >20. > > > > Is there anyway I can run Declude on my gateway server and > > pass the score to SmarterMail on another server? I just want > > to tag the messages on the gateway machine and then let users > > set custom actions using the SmarterMail interface. > > > > Any thoughts would be appreciated! > > > > Mark > > > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be > > found at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to SmarterMail?
It is passed int the .hdr file. Kevin Bilbee > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Mark Strother > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:03 PM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] How is a message score passed to > SmarterMail? > > > Could someone explain to me how the message score is passed > to SmarterMail? > > I would like to set up a SmarterMail server, running Declude, > as a gateway for our mail. The problem with this setup is, in > my tests, SmarterMail doesn't recognize the Declude scores > when they are a generated on another server. This means that > users wouldn't be able to configure their own rules such as > delete mail if the score is >20. > > Is there anyway I can run Declude on my gateway server and > pass the score to SmarterMail on another server? I just want > to tag the messages on the gateway machine and then let users > set custom actions using the SmarterMail interface. > > Any thoughts would be appreciated! > > Mark > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be > found at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
