RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail - DecludeJunkmail/Virus Gateway
Sorry Two drives in RAID 1 (Mirrored) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 10:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail - DecludeJunkmail/Virus Gateway Each of these servers are ONLY relayers. They're Dell Poweredge 1650's Dual Processor 1.2Ghz, 1GB RAM 3x36GB drives in RAID 0 (with the 3rd as a hot-swap). How can you have 2 drives in a RAID 0 with a hot spare? If one drive fails, you lost the logical drive. Why would you even want to use RAID 0 of the OS? John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail - DecludeJunkmail/Virus Gateway
Kris, We have four inbound MX relayers for our Exchange 2003 system. The inbound MX relayers run iMail/Junkmail and each have an equal preference level in the MX records. Each of these servers are ONLY relayers. They're Dell Poweredge 1650's Dual Processor 1.2Ghz, 1GB RAM 3x36GB drives in RAID 0 (with the 3rd as a hot-swap). Logical partitions: 9GB C: (System OS) 7GB D: (Imail/Junkmail) 20GB E: (Junkmail Log Files using NTFS Mount point to d:\Imail\Declude\Spamlogs) Across all 4 relayers we process about 250,000-300,000 inbound messages a day (including spam/viruses). Works perfect for us. Mark E. Smith Systems and Technology Manager Associated Press Broadcast Technology 1825 K Street NW Suite 800 Washington, D.C. USA Phone: +1-202-736-9657 (GMT -05:00) Fax: +1-707-202-3957 http://www.ap.org http://www.enps.com Support Board: http://support.enps.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris McElroy Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 12:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail - DecludeJunkmail/Virus Gateway Sorry what I meant by example setups was the hard drive configuration and what type of hardware. I should have explained myself a little more clearly. Kris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 10:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail - DecludeJunkmail/Virus Gateway First off I would like to say thanks to you and thanks to the others on this list and the Imail list that put effort and time in to helping people. If you don't mind me asking I am assuming that you do consulting for companies that run Imail at high volumes. Do you have any example setups of a typical Gateway (Imail/Declude) that sees high volume? Typical is a very obscure word. You can some what describe typical ISP or typical educational, but other than that, each configuration can be different based on the end users. Example, I operate/consult on 5 Imail/Declude servers. Each one is different. 2 are a major regional ISPs, another is a corporate server for a financial company, another is a coporate server for a real estate company, and one is a small ISP which includes a client that deals in electronic parts, hence gets a lot of e-mail from the far east. The one server that I consult on that is high volume is not a gateway, but the actual mail box server. I can not directly share their configuration, but if you read the archives on this list, you will see a lot of work that has gone into optimizing filters. Hopefully soon, I will have a site up and running for members to share filters and such. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail - DecludeJunkmail/Virus Gateway
Each of these servers are ONLY relayers. They're Dell Poweredge 1650's Dual Processor 1.2Ghz, 1GB RAM 3x36GB drives in RAID 0 (with the 3rd as a hot-swap). How can you have 2 drives in a RAID 0 with a hot spare? If one drive fails, you lost the logical drive. Why would you even want to use RAID 0 of the OS? John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail - DecludeJunkmail/Virus Gateway
You may want to do more; the most important areas to separate in your setup are the logs and the mail spool. You can't separate Declude logs, just minimize them, but using IMail's Syslog option you can relocate the IMail logs (and should); they can even go to another box entirely. Location of Declude logs is configured in the .cfg files. :) John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail - DecludeJunkmail/Virus Gateway
First off I would like to say thanks to you and thanks to the others on this list and the Imail list that put effort and time in to helping people. If you don't mind me asking I am assuming that you do consulting for companies that run Imail at high volumes. Do you have any example setups of a typical Gateway (Imail/Declude) that sees high volume? Typical is a very obscure word. You can some what describe typical ISP or typical educational, but other than that, each configuration can be different based on the end users. Example, I operate/consult on 5 Imail/Declude servers. Each one is different. 2 are a major regional ISPs, another is a corporate server for a financial company, another is a coporate server for a real estate company, and one is a small ISP which includes a client that deals in electronic parts, hence gets a lot of e-mail from the far east. The one server that I consult on that is high volume is not a gateway, but the actual mail box server. I can not directly share their configuration, but if you read the archives on this list, you will see a lot of work that has gone into optimizing filters. Hopefully soon, I will have a site up and running for members to share filters and such. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail - DecludeJunkmail/Virus Gateway
Sorry what I meant by example setups was the hard drive configuration and what type of hardware. I should have explained myself a little more clearly. Kris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 10:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail - DecludeJunkmail/Virus Gateway First off I would like to say thanks to you and thanks to the others on this list and the Imail list that put effort and time in to helping people. If you don't mind me asking I am assuming that you do consulting for companies that run Imail at high volumes. Do you have any example setups of a typical Gateway (Imail/Declude) that sees high volume? Typical is a very obscure word. You can some what describe typical ISP or typical educational, but other than that, each configuration can be different based on the end users. Example, I operate/consult on 5 Imail/Declude servers. Each one is different. 2 are a major regional ISPs, another is a corporate server for a financial company, another is a coporate server for a real estate company, and one is a small ISP which includes a client that deals in electronic parts, hence gets a lot of e-mail from the far east. The one server that I consult on that is high volume is not a gateway, but the actual mail box server. I can not directly share their configuration, but if you read the archives on this list, you will see a lot of work that has gone into optimizing filters. Hopefully soon, I will have a site up and running for members to share filters and such. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail - DecludeJunkmail/Virus Gateway
Well after spending time reading the archives (IMail/Declude) it seems that I am going about the gateway hardware setup wrong. Have you changed the DNS line in your global.cfg file? -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers. Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail - DecludeJunkmail/Virus Gateway
John, First off I would like to say thanks to you and thanks to the others on this list and the Imail list that put effort and time in to helping people. If you don't mind me asking I am assuming that you do consulting for companies that run Imail at high volumes. Do you have any example setups of a typical Gateway (Imail/Declude) that sees high volume? Kris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 6:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail - DecludeJunkmail/Virus Gateway With the information you have given, I would go with the one of the 2 following: Note, it would be much better to use hardware RAID, but since you only have max 3 drives, I would use software. Even though you said redundancy is not an issue, you do get a slight performance boost using RAID 1 over no RAID. Configuration 1 using software RAID: Disk 0 Partition 1 RAID1 with Disk 1 Partition 1 14 GB OS, Imail and Declude Disk 0 Partition 2 No RAID 3 GB Page file 1 Disk 0 Partition 3 RAID1 with Disk 2 Partition 1 17 GB Imail Spool Disk 1 Partition 1 RAID1 with Disk 0 Partition 1 14 GB OS, Imail and Declude Disk 1 Partition 2 No RAID 3 GB Page file 2 Disk 1 Partition 3 Raid1 with Disk 2 Partition 2 17 GB Log Files Disk 2 Partition 1 RAID1 with Disk 0 Partition 3 17 GB Imail Spool Disk 2 Partition 2 RAID1 with Disk 1 Partition 2 17 GB Log files Configuration 2 using hardware RAID: Disk 0 and Disk 1 RAID1 by hardware. Partition 1 14 GB OS, Imail and Declude Partition 2 5 GB Page file Partition 3 17 GB Log files Disk 2 Imail spool John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris McElroy Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 3:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail - DecludeJunkmail/Virus Gateway Well after spending time reading the archives (IMail/Declude) it seems that I am going about the gateway hardware setup wrong. I have to much money/time invested in Declude/Windows/Imail/Dell to ditch what I have and go to something like IMGate. I know that people on this list run Declude/Imail as gateway servers that process much more mail than I do. I believe that my Dell PE 1750 will process the load that I have and then some IF setup correctly. The ingredient that I think that I am missing is adequate Disk setup. I concentrated more on processor speed than what mattered, the disk setup. Currently I have this setup: 1 36Gb 15K SCSI, with 4 Logical Drives C: OS Windows 2000 Server, Swap File by default D: Programs Imail, Diskeeper, Fprot, Declude E: Imail SPool F: Declude Log Files My Dell will only hold 3 SCSI Drives and I can purchase the PERC4DI 128MB Raid Card add on. The help that I need is how should I set the disk up with 3 Drives as a Gateway (incoming only, no mailboxes, no POP, no WebMail) server? Redundancy doesn't matter I just need speed and mail to flow without backing up. I feel that this is my issue after playing with settings and reading archives. Would someone please chime in and give me a direction which to travel with the proper Tweaks or here is my setup and we process 75 to 100K messages per day. This way I will have some type of mental diagram. Thanks, Kris --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail - DecludeJunkmail/Virus Gateway
My Dell will only hold 3 SCSI Drives and I can purchase the PERC4DI 128MB Raid Card add on. The help that I need is how should I set the disk up with 3 Drives as a Gateway (incoming only, no mailboxes, no POP, no WebMail) server? Redundancy doesn't matter I just need speed and mail to flow without backing up. If redundancy *really* doesn't matter (true, you don't have it now, so you wouldn't be any more reckless): RAID 0, three drives, as much RAM on the RAID card as possible. Q.E.D. You may want to do more; the most important areas to separate in your setup are the logs and the mail spool. You can't separate Declude logs, just minimize them, but using IMail's Syslog option you can relocate the IMail logs (and should); they can even go to another box entirely. I would not spend my time/money worrying about the location of the Windows system services and the IMail and Declude executables. --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.mailmage.com/download/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/Release/ --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
