Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Inexpensive rate limiting switch?

2006-03-23 Thread Nick Hayer

Hi Dave,

I have one of these that will do what you want I believe. - I've moved 
on to a Packeteer and a large Catalyst. If you are interested let me know.

http://www.netsys-direct.com/proddetail.php?prod=NS-2024Scat=12

-Nick

Dave Doherty wrote:


Hi, all-

I'll be providing VOIP and Internet service to five to ten other 
tenants in the building I will be moving into in a couple of months.


I'm looking for a way to provide limited bandwidth to each port, 
preferably with some form of QOS or priority handling for the VOIP 
services.


Does anybody know of an inexpensive way to provide this? These are one 
to three person companies for the most part, and big-bucks solutions 
are not in the picture.


-Dave Doherty
Skywaves, Inc.


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Inexpensive rate limiting switch?

2006-03-23 Thread Tim Moore
Dave, 

We have been using Compex switchs at end users locations with very good luck
(vlan trucking and bandwidth control). I ask the regional rep if they had a
switch made for your need his answer is below.  Priced well under $200 for
isps.

If you want his contact number email off list, they have price for isps.

Yes.  What he wants is the SXP2224WM.  It has bandwidth control and port
priority.

Tim 

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Hi, all-

I'll be providing VOIP and Internet service to five to ten other tenants in
the building I will be moving into in a couple of months.

I'm looking for a way to provide limited bandwidth to each port, preferably
with some form of QOS or priority handling for the VOIP services.

Does anybody know of an inexpensive way to provide this? These are one to
three person companies for the most part, and big-bucks solutions are not in
the picture.

-Dave Doherty
 Skywaves, Inc. 



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Inexpensive rate limiting switch?

2006-03-22 Thread Matt
A 3Com 3200 series switch will support bandwidth limiting per port to 
the 1 Mbps level (I might sell you mine if you are interested).


   
http://www.3com.com/products/en_US/detail.jsp?tab=featurespathtype=purchasesku=WEBBNC3200SYS


The business line of Linksys switches provides rate limiting down to the 
kpbs level:


   
http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C1childpagename=US%2FLayoutcid=1134691195123pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper


The 3Com is Fast Ethernet and goes for about $350 and $700 for 26-port 
or 50-port versions respectively.  Linksys switches will go for about 
the same prices for the gigabit versions, but you might not have any 
good reason for going gigabit, and the Fast Ethernet versions will be 
$100 to $200 less.


There are of course a host of other solutions with better granularity, 
but most managed switches these days provide the ability to shape 
bandwidth per port.


Matt




Dave Doherty wrote:


Hi, all-

I'll be providing VOIP and Internet service to five to ten other 
tenants in the building I will be moving into in a couple of months.


I'm looking for a way to provide limited bandwidth to each port, 
preferably with some form of QOS or priority handling for the VOIP 
services.


Does anybody know of an inexpensive way to provide this? These are one 
to three person companies for the most part, and big-bucks solutions 
are not in the picture.


-Dave Doherty
Skywaves, Inc.


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Inexpensive rate limiting switch?

2006-03-22 Thread Darin Cox
What granularity do you need?  Many managed switches can limit in multiples
of 1Mbps.  I set up a managed office space early last year that resells
internet access to their tenants.  Because they needed more granularity we
went with a combination of a Cisco 2801 router and 3550 switch to get
granularity below 1Mbps (actually in 8kbps chunks).

The property management company later decided to set the limits higher than
originally spec'd (at 1Mbps per switch port), choosing to run monthly
reports and bill for overages rather than limit the customers.

We also VLANed all of the offices to isolate them using the 3550 and a 2801
router, with some access-lists defined to allow all tenants access to onsite
servers providing DNS, SMTP, intranet, file serving, and printer spooling.
With the 2801 remote VPN access was also provided to tenants.

I don't remember if the 2960 series of switches has rate limiting, but if it
does that might be a good way to save a bit of money, but I highly recommend
the 2801 router.  It was designed specifically for the combination of
internet and VOIP services.  Prices for the 2801 are reasonable...it's the
3550 that quickly gobbles up a budget, so see if the 2960 will do what you
need.  Don't forget to budget for the appropriate WIC for the 2801, though.

You're probably looking at ~$4k for the equipment, so lock in as many
tenants for as long as you can to cover your outlay.  I don't know if you
can do it any cheaper and have any protection from one or two customers
sucking up all of the pipe or degrading VOIP service.

Hope this helps,

Darin.


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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Inexpensive rate limiting switch?


Hi, all-

I'll be providing VOIP and Internet service to five to ten other tenants in
the building I will be moving into in a couple of months.

I'm looking for a way to provide limited bandwidth to each port, preferably
with some form of QOS or priority handling for the VOIP services.

Does anybody know of an inexpensive way to provide this? These are one to
three person companies for the most part, and big-bucks solutions are not in
the picture.

-Dave Doherty
 Skywaves, Inc.



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Inexpensive rate limiting switch?

2006-03-22 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
You can always look at the Catalyst 2950 and do QoS traffic policing. 
Although you need the enhanced image to do this so it would bump the price 
up a bit.


Darrell

Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And 
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG 
Integration, and Log Parsers.


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Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Inexpensive rate limiting switch?


What granularity do you need?  Many managed switches can limit in 
multiples

of 1Mbps.  I set up a managed office space early last year that resells
internet access to their tenants.  Because they needed more granularity we
went with a combination of a Cisco 2801 router and 3550 switch to get
granularity below 1Mbps (actually in 8kbps chunks).

The property management company later decided to set the limits higher 
than

originally spec'd (at 1Mbps per switch port), choosing to run monthly
reports and bill for overages rather than limit the customers.

We also VLANed all of the offices to isolate them using the 3550 and a 
2801
router, with some access-lists defined to allow all tenants access to 
onsite

servers providing DNS, SMTP, intranet, file serving, and printer spooling.
With the 2801 remote VPN access was also provided to tenants.

I don't remember if the 2960 series of switches has rate limiting, but if 
it
does that might be a good way to save a bit of money, but I highly 
recommend

the 2801 router.  It was designed specifically for the combination of
internet and VOIP services.  Prices for the 2801 are reasonable...it's the
3550 that quickly gobbles up a budget, so see if the 2960 will do what you
need.  Don't forget to budget for the appropriate WIC for the 2801, 
though.


You're probably looking at ~$4k for the equipment, so lock in as many
tenants for as long as you can to cover your outlay.  I don't know if you
can do it any cheaper and have any protection from one or two customers
sucking up all of the pipe or degrading VOIP service.

Hope this helps,

Darin.


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From: Dave Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 9:41 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Inexpensive rate limiting switch?


Hi, all-

I'll be providing VOIP and Internet service to five to ten other tenants 
in

the building I will be moving into in a couple of months.

I'm looking for a way to provide limited bandwidth to each port, 
preferably

with some form of QOS or priority handling for the VOIP services.

Does anybody know of an inexpensive way to provide this? These are one to
three person companies for the most part, and big-bucks solutions are not 
in

the picture.

-Dave Doherty
Skywaves, Inc.



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