[Declude.Virus] language specific messages

2006-02-23 Thread Gary Steiner 
Can the following be done in Declude EVA?

I have customers who are english speakers, and customers who are spanish 
speakers.  When a customer is sent a virus, they receive a messsage telling 
them about the virus (recip.eml).  I want to be able to have a different 
message sent to each of my domains depending on the language of the customer 
(recip-en.eml and recip-es.eml).  I believe this can be done in Junkmail, but 
can it be done in EVA?

Thanks,

Gary Steiner



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RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages

2006-02-23 Thread Goran Jovanovic 
You could always put the English and Spanish messages into the same
recip.eml file. I see a lot of that type of thing up here in Canada
except it is English and French.

Goran Jovanovic
Omega Network Solutions

 

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> Subject: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
> 
> Can the following be done in Declude EVA?
> 
> I have customers who are english speakers, and customers who are
spanish
> speakers.  When a customer is sent a virus, they receive a messsage
> telling them about the virus (recip.eml).  I want to be able to have a
> different message sent to each of my domains depending on the language
of
> the customer (recip-en.eml and recip-es.eml).  I believe this can be
done
> in Junkmail, but can it be done in EVA?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gary Steiner
> 
> 
> 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages

2006-02-23 Thread Colbeck, Andrew 
Tu peut l'escrite en Francais et Espanol dans la meme recip.eml; je vu
beaucoup de cette technique en Canada, mais c'est en Anglais et
Francais.


Andrew 8)
 

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> 
> You could always put the English and Spanish messages into 
> the same recip.eml file. I see a lot of that type of thing up 
> here in Canada except it is English and French.
> 
> Goran Jovanovic
> Omega Network Solutions
> 
>  
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> > 
> > Can the following be done in Declude EVA?
> > 
> > I have customers who are english speakers, and customers who are
> spanish
> > speakers.  When a customer is sent a virus, they receive a messsage 
> > telling them about the virus (recip.eml).  I want to be 
> able to have a 
> > different message sent to each of my domains depending on 
> the language
> of
> > the customer (recip-en.eml and recip-es.eml).  I believe this can be
> done
> > in Junkmail, but can it be done in EVA?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Gary Steiner
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages

2006-02-23 Thread Matt 




Canada...home of the ridiculously long disclaimers :)

Matt


Colbeck, Andrew wrote:

  Tu peut l'escrite en Francais et Espanol dans la meme recip.eml; je vu
beaucoup de cette technique en Canada, mais c'est en Anglais et
Francais.


Andrew 8)
 

  
  
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 11:12 AM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages

You could always put the English and Spanish messages into 
the same recip.eml file. I see a lot of that type of thing up 
here in Canada except it is English and French.

Goran Jovanovic
Omega Network Solutions

 



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[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:04 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages

Can the following be done in Declude EVA?

I have customers who are english speakers, and customers who are
  

spanish


  speakers.  When a customer is sent a virus, they receive a messsage 
telling them about the virus (recip.eml).  I want to be 
  

able to have a 


  different message sent to each of my domains depending on 
  

the language
of


  the customer (recip-en.eml and recip-es.eml).  I believe this can be
  

done


  in Junkmail, but can it be done in EVA?

Thanks,

Gary Steiner



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RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages

2006-02-23 Thread Andy Schmidt 
Example attached (sorry, German/English in this case).

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 02:12 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages

You could always put the English and Spanish messages into the same
recip.eml file. I see a lot of that type of thing up here in Canada except
it is English and French.

Goran Jovanovic
Omega Network Solutions

 

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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:04 PM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
> 
> Can the following be done in Declude EVA?
> 
> I have customers who are english speakers, and customers who are
spanish
> speakers.  When a customer is sent a virus, they receive a messsage 
> telling them about the virus (recip.eml).  I want to be able to have a 
> different message sent to each of my domains depending on the language
of
> the customer (recip-en.eml and recip-es.eml).  I believe this can be
done
> in Junkmail, but can it be done in EVA?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gary Steiner
> 
> 
> 
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Argos Networks' Firewall has tripped an alert while inspecting a message sent 
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  %ALLRECIPS%.

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  Sender's Domain:  %REMOTEHOST%
  More Info:http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ptr.ch?ip=%REMOTEIP%
http://www.samspade.org/t/dns?a=%REMOTEIP%

  Message ID:   %MSGID%
  Queue ID: %QUEUENAME% on %RECIPHOST%

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  %ALLRECIPS%.

Ihr Email kam von einem Mail Server, der keinen gueltigen "Reverse Lookup" DNS 
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  Message ID:%MSGID%
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RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages

2006-02-23 Thread Panda Consulting S.A. Luis Alberto Arango 
Or create another .eml, making sure it is only trigger FOR SPECIFIC users
using
ONLYSENDIFLOCALRECIPIENT

You can see more info in EVA manual, in the CHAPTER E-MAIL NOTIFICATIONS.

Commands are very powerful, I am sure you will find the right ones

-Luis Arango

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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
> Sent: Jueves, 23 de Febrero de 2006 02:12 p.m.
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
> 
> You could always put the English and Spanish messages into 
> the same recip.eml file. I see a lot of that type of thing up 
> here in Canada except it is English and French.
> 
> Goran Jovanovic
> Omega Network Solutions
> 
>  
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner
> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:04 PM
> > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> > Subject: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
> > 
> > Can the following be done in Declude EVA?
> > 
> > I have customers who are english speakers, and customers who are
> spanish
> > speakers.  When a customer is sent a virus, they receive a messsage 
> > telling them about the virus (recip.eml).  I want to be 
> able to have a 
> > different message sent to each of my domains depending on 
> the language
> of
> > the customer (recip-en.eml and recip-es.eml).  I believe this can be
> done
> > in Junkmail, but can it be done in EVA?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Gary Steiner
> > 
> > 
> > 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages

2006-02-23 Thread Goran Jovanovic 
Andrew,

Do you do anything to decrease the change of the alert message going out
to real spammers or forged addresses? 

This would get sent out to e-mail that failed REVDNS and were not
deleted as SPAM?

Goran Jovanovic
Omega Network Solutions

 

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:35 PM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
> 
> Example attached (sorry, German/English in this case).
> 
> Best Regards
> Andy Schmidt
> 
> Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
> Fax:+1 201 934-9206
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 02:12 PM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
> 
> You could always put the English and Spanish messages into the same
> recip.eml file. I see a lot of that type of thing up here in Canada
except
> it is English and French.
> 
> Goran Jovanovic
> Omega Network Solutions
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner
> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:04 PM
> > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> > Subject: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
> >
> > Can the following be done in Declude EVA?
> >
> > I have customers who are english speakers, and customers who are
> spanish
> > speakers.  When a customer is sent a virus, they receive a messsage
> > telling them about the virus (recip.eml).  I want to be able to have
a
> > different message sent to each of my domains depending on the
language
> of
> > the customer (recip-en.eml and recip-es.eml).  I believe this can be
> done
> > in Junkmail, but can it be done in EVA?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gary Steiner
> >
> >
> >
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RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages

2006-02-23 Thread Andy Schmidt 
Hi,

I kill most of the incoming mail (with help of Sniffer).

I've never seen a complaint by an innocent users, but occasionally educate a
corporate end user or manager about the incompetence of his/her I/S
department.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 02:43 PM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages

Andrew,

Do you do anything to decrease the change of the alert message going out to
real spammers or forged addresses? 

This would get sent out to e-mail that failed REVDNS and were not deleted as
SPAM?

Goran Jovanovic
Omega Network Solutions

 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:35 PM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
> 
> Example attached (sorry, German/English in this case).
> 
> Best Regards
> Andy Schmidt
> 
> Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
> Fax:+1 201 934-9206
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 02:12 PM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
> 
> You could always put the English and Spanish messages into the same 
> recip.eml file. I see a lot of that type of thing up here in Canada
except
> it is English and French.
> 
> Goran Jovanovic
> Omega Network Solutions
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner
> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:04 PM
> > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> > Subject: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
> >
> > Can the following be done in Declude EVA?
> >
> > I have customers who are english speakers, and customers who are
> spanish
> > speakers.  When a customer is sent a virus, they receive a messsage 
> > telling them about the virus (recip.eml).  I want to be able to have
a
> > different message sent to each of my domains depending on the
language
> of
> > the customer (recip-en.eml and recip-es.eml).  I believe this can be
> done
> > in Junkmail, but can it be done in EVA?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gary Steiner
> >
> >
> >
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RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages

2006-02-23 Thread Colbeck, Andrew 
Goran, I actually avoid any bounce and alerts to recipients and senders.

I only use alerting to send virus alerts inbound to our postmaster
account.

I do this because I know firsthand how hard it is to keep junk alerts
from the Internet from coming in to my users' mailboxes.

Likewise, I recommend NOT sending user notifications regarding viruses.

Andrew 8)


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 11:43 AM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
> 
> Andrew,
> 
> Do you do anything to decrease the change of the alert 
> message going out to real spammers or forged addresses? 
> 
> This would get sent out to e-mail that failed REVDNS and were 
> not deleted as SPAM?
> 
> Goran Jovanovic
> Omega Network Solutions
> 
>  
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:35 PM
> > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
> > 
> > Example attached (sorry, German/English in this case).
> > 
> > Best Regards
> > Andy Schmidt
> > 
> > Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
> > Fax:+1 201 934-9206
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran 
> Jovanovic
> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 02:12 PM
> > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
> > 
> > You could always put the English and Spanish messages into the same 
> > recip.eml file. I see a lot of that type of thing up here in Canada
> except
> > it is English and French.
> > 
> > Goran Jovanovic
> > Omega Network Solutions
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- 
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:04 PM
> > > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> > > Subject: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
> > >
> > > Can the following be done in Declude EVA?
> > >
> > > I have customers who are english speakers, and customers who are
> > spanish
> > > speakers.  When a customer is sent a virus, they receive 
> a messsage 
> > > telling them about the virus (recip.eml).  I want to be 
> able to have
> a
> > > different message sent to each of my domains depending on the
> language
> > of
> > > the customer (recip-en.eml and recip-es.eml).  I believe 
> this can be
> > done
> > > in Junkmail, but can it be done in EVA?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Gary Steiner
> > >
> > >
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RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages

2006-02-23 Thread Goran Jovanovic 
Andrew,

I do not send any outbound alerts/bounces etc. The only ones I send are
for banned files and that goes to the recipient(s). 

Having said that I kind of like the ideal of sending a REVDNS alert to
legitimate senders in the hope that they will act to cleanup their
system. Question is how do you tell if they are a legitimate mail rather
than spam? Perhaps with a filter like this run as the last one in
global.cfg

SKIPIFWEIGHT 10
TESTFAILED 0 CONTAINS REVDNS

Then do an alert in the $default$.junkmail file for this test

I tag at 10 and delete at 30 so this would only trigger on "legit"
messages

Just a thought

Goran Jovanovic
Omega Network Solutions

 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 3:04 PM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
> 
> Goran, I actually avoid any bounce and alerts to recipients and
senders.
> 
> I only use alerting to send virus alerts inbound to our postmaster
> account.
> 
> I do this because I know firsthand how hard it is to keep junk alerts
> from the Internet from coming in to my users' mailboxes.
> 
> Likewise, I recommend NOT sending user notifications regarding
viruses.
> 
> Andrew 8)
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran
Jovanovic
> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 11:43 AM
> > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
> >
> > Andrew,
> >
> > Do you do anything to decrease the change of the alert
> > message going out to real spammers or forged addresses?
> >
> > This would get sent out to e-mail that failed REVDNS and were
> > not deleted as SPAM?
> >
> > Goran Jovanovic
> > Omega Network Solutions
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:35 PM
> > > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> > > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
> > >
> > > Example attached (sorry, German/English in this case).
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Andy Schmidt
> > >
> > > Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
> > > Fax:+1 201 934-9206
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran
> > Jovanovic
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 02:12 PM
> > > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> > > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
> > >
> > > You could always put the English and Spanish messages into the
same
> > > recip.eml file. I see a lot of that type of thing up here in
Canada
> > except
> > > it is English and French.
> > >
> > > Goran Jovanovic
> > > Omega Network Solutions
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:04 PM
> > > > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> > > > Subject: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
> > > >
> > > > Can the following be done in Declude EVA?
> > > >
> > > > I have customers who are english speakers, and customers who are
> > > spanish
> > > > speakers.  When a customer is sent a virus, they receive
> > a messsage
> > > > telling them about the virus (recip.eml).  I want to be
> > able to have
> > a
> > > > different message sent to each of my domains depending on the
> > language
> > > of
> > > > the customer (recip-en.eml and recip-es.eml).  I believe
> > this can be
> > > done
> > > > in Junkmail, but can it be done in EVA?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Gary Steiner
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA
> > www.declude.com]
> > > >
> > > > ---
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RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages

2006-02-23 Thread Colbeck, Andrew 
H, this would still not work out well in the real world.

I've no problem with the construction of this test, but with the
concept.

For example, Microsoft often fails REVDNS with their Hotmail/MSN service
and you would be informing "Aunt Minnie" about something technical over
which she has no control and no interest.  And you'd be effectively
spamming her every time she sends a message to one of your users.

Andrew 8)


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 1:13 PM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
> 
> Andrew,
> 
> I do not send any outbound alerts/bounces etc. The only ones 
> I send are for banned files and that goes to the recipient(s). 
> 
> Having said that I kind of like the ideal of sending a REVDNS 
> alert to legitimate senders in the hope that they will act to 
> cleanup their system. Question is how do you tell if they are 
> a legitimate mail rather than spam? Perhaps with a filter 
> like this run as the last one in global.cfg
> 
> SKIPIFWEIGHT 10
> TESTFAILED 0 CONTAINS REVDNS
> 
> Then do an alert in the $default$.junkmail file for this test
> 
> I tag at 10 and delete at 30 so this would only trigger on "legit"
> messages
> 
> Just a thought
> 
> Goran Jovanovic
> Omega Network Solutions
> 
>  
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 3:04 PM
> > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
> > 
> > Goran, I actually avoid any bounce and alerts to recipients and
> senders.
> > 
> > I only use alerting to send virus alerts inbound to our postmaster 
> > account.
> > 
> > I do this because I know firsthand how hard it is to keep 
> junk alerts 
> > from the Internet from coming in to my users' mailboxes.
> > 
> > Likewise, I recommend NOT sending user notifications regarding
> viruses.
> > 
> > Andrew 8)
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran
> Jovanovic
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 11:43 AM
> > > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> > > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
> > >
> > > Andrew,
> > >
> > > Do you do anything to decrease the change of the alert 
> message going 
> > > out to real spammers or forged addresses?
> > >
> > > This would get sent out to e-mail that failed REVDNS and were not 
> > > deleted as SPAM?
> > >
> > > Goran Jovanovic
> > > Omega Network Solutions
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- 
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:35 PM
> > > > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> > > > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
> > > >
> > > > Example attached (sorry, German/English in this case).
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards
> > > > Andy Schmidt
> > > >
> > > > Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
> > > > Fax:+1 201 934-9206
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran
> > > Jovanovic
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 02:12 PM
> > > > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> > > > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
> > > >
> > > > You could always put the English and Spanish messages into the
> same
> > > > recip.eml file. I see a lot of that type of thing up here in
> Canada
> > > except
> > > > it is English and French.
> > > >
> > > > Goran Jovanovic
> > > > Omega Network Solutions
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- 
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:04 PM
> > > > > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com