[Declude.Virus] Scanning on forwarded addresses

2004-12-13 Thread Tandem Group
We run Declude Virus Standard with F-Prot and I am unsure whether a
forwarded message is scanned.

If an infected message is sent to a domain which is NOT set up for virus
scanning, but is then forwarded to a domain which IS in the Virus_Domains
list, will it then be quarantined?

Thanks,

Erik


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Re: [Declude.Virus] Scanning on forwarded addresses

2004-12-13 Thread R. Scott Perry

We run Declude Virus Standard with F-Prot and I am unsure whether a
forwarded message is scanned.
If an infected message is sent to a domain which is NOT set up for virus
scanning, but is then forwarded to a domain which IS in the Virus_Domains
list, will it then be quarantined?
The way that IMail works, Declude won't see forwarded E-mails.  Therefore, 
if you set up Declude Virus not to scan an E-mail to one of your users, the 
E-mail that gets forwarded will not get scanned either.  Declude is 
completely blind to the forwarding.

   -Scott
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[Declude.Virus] Scanning attachments

2004-01-28 Thread John Carter
Does the extension name of a file play in the proper scanning of an
attachment?  IE: If we rename a ZIP file to say test.ziz to get by the
ban on ZIPs. Will it still get scanned ok?  

(Idea is if I intentional rename the extension and I tell you in the
message what I and how to save it, it is not likely to come from a virus
sender like MyDoom.  It is inconvenient, but so is chasing down virus
infected machines.)

Thanks,
John

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Re: [Declude.Virus] Scanning attachments

2004-01-28 Thread R. Scott Perry

Does the extension name of a file play in the proper scanning of an
attachment?  IE: If we rename a ZIP file to say test.ziz to get by the
ban on ZIPs. Will it still get scanned ok?
That's up to the virus scanner -- it *should* detect that it is a .ZIP 
file.  F-Prot definitely does.  So if it has a virus, it will get caught, 
even if it is in a .ZIP file with a .ZIZ extension.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Scanning attachments

2004-01-28 Thread Rodney Bertsch
Of course if the idea catches on, the next big virus will come with a
message that states Save the attached zapyou.xxx out to your local hard
drive as zapyou.exe, run the program and you'll see naked pictures of Halle
Berry!

Just playing devil's advocate, I want to find a way to enable zip files too.

- Rodney

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Does the extension name of a file play in the proper scanning of an
attachment?  IE: If we rename a ZIP file to say test.ziz to get by the
ban on ZIPs. Will it still get scanned ok?

(Idea is if I intentional rename the extension and I tell you in the
message what I and how to save it, it is not likely to come from a virus
sender like MyDoom.  It is inconvenient, but so is chasing down virus
infected machines.)

Thanks,
John

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Re: [Declude.Virus] Scanning Question

2003-11-12 Thread R. Scott Perry

Is it possible to not scan an email from a specific sender for
vulnerabilities?
No.

  They are tripping the 'blank folding' vuln. and we
quarantine it.  Thanks,
Why do you want them to be allowed to send E-mail with vulnerabilities?

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Scanning Question

2003-11-12 Thread John Shacklett
This question sure seems to come up regularly. Here's my slant:

We are a smallish private company, and our clients span the spectrum from
private individuals to major multinational behemoths. We have one client in
particular that sends us electronic purchase orders generated by their
in-house purchasing system, and every one trips the Outlook 'Blank Folding'
Vulnerability. I respect the vulnerability scanning without question, and I
wouldn't dream of turning it off. So, I monitor the postmaster notices
closely, and I drop everything and manually place those purchase orders in
the Spool and hope that nobody notices the delay. That outfit is large
enough that they don't even REPLY to my hey, your system needs a tiny
tweak messages, much less ridicule me for suggesting that their system
isn't perfect.

It's not a big deal [at least for me and my situation], and if the
capability existed to relax things the bare minimum it would take to let
just those through, I might not. I'd sit around wondering who would exploit
that tiny opportunity, and I already have enough to worry about. But, I
would consider it. And I understand why people keep asking for this
capability in Declude.Virus.

And, to answer your question Scott, I don't. There are just circumstances
occasionally that muddy the black and white of it. The consequences of the
Outlook 'Blank Folding' Vulnerability can be serious, but I'm looking at a
situation where their system, not MS based, is sending an email to my
business system, also not MS based. So an Outlook vulnerability isn't in
play. But only I know that, I don't expect Declude to. I only expect Declude
to continue to do the excellent job it does watching for the vulnerability,
no matter what.

Thanks.

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Is it possible to not scan an email from a specific sender for
vulnerabilities?

No.

   They are tripping the 'blank folding' vuln. and we
quarantine it.  Thanks,

Why do you want them to be allowed to send E-mail with vulnerabilities?

-Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Scanning Question

2003-11-12 Thread Keith Johnson

In this case, you can use the per-user settings to turn off virus
scanning completely for the recipient.

Scott,
Is is possible (using per user settings) to simply suspend the
vulnerability scanning, yet still keep the main virus scanning on?  

Thanks again for your time,

Keith

 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Scanning Question

2003-11-12 Thread R. Scott Perry

Is is possible (using per user settings) to simply suspend the
vulnerability scanning, yet still keep the main virus scanning on?
No.  The vulnerability detection can only be turned on/off globally.  For 
an individual account (or domain), it can only be turned on/off along with 
virus scanning.

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] scanning timeout value

2003-01-22 Thread R. Scott Perry


Yes, IMail was processing mail through that period. We started receiving
messages at our desktops that did not contain any declude headers, and that
was my first indication that something was wrong. The log even shows SMTP
refusals based on entries in my kill.lst file, so I'm guessing that IMail
SMTP was up.


Do you have a C:\Declude.gp1 or C:\Declude.gp2 file, dated when this 
happened (or more recent)?

Unfortunately, I bounced the box before I did a whole lot more
investigating at the time, so I don't have much more to go on. I did pull up
the remote administrator and look at the queue, and there were many times
the usual number of items in the Waiting Items box, but only a single
message at a time in the processing items. That's not normal either. What
I failed to do was to pull up the task manager and look at the open
processes before I restarted the machine.


My guess here is that IMail's SMTPD process (which listens for incoming 
E-mail) was working, and placing files in the spool, but never starting 
Declude (or the SMTP32.exe process that IMail uses to deliver the E-mail 
after Declude is done).  That would account for why there was only 1 E-mail 
being processed (that would be the queue run that runs every 30 minutes 
or so), and a lot of E-mail in the spool.
  -Scott

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RE: [Declude.Virus] scanning timeout value

2003-01-22 Thread John Shacklett
Nope, no c:\declude.gpx files, I looked for those first. And I agree with
your conclusion about what happened, I just wish I had looked at the task
manager to see if there were a boatload of smtp32.exe processes sitting in
limbo. I'll bet there were.

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Yes, IMail was processing mail through that period. We started receiving
messages at our desktops that did not contain any declude headers, and that
was my first indication that something was wrong. The log even shows SMTP
refusals based on entries in my kill.lst file, so I'm guessing that IMail
SMTP was up.

Do you have a C:\Declude.gp1 or C:\Declude.gp2 file, dated when this
happened (or more recent)?

Unfortunately, I bounced the box before I did a whole lot more
investigating at the time, so I don't have much more to go on. I did pull
up
the remote administrator and look at the queue, and there were many times
the usual number of items in the Waiting Items box, but only a single
message at a time in the processing items. That's not normal either. What
I failed to do was to pull up the task manager and look at the open
processes before I restarted the machine.

My guess here is that IMail's SMTPD process (which listens for incoming
E-mail) was working, and placing files in the spool, but never starting
Declude (or the SMTP32.exe process that IMail uses to deliver the E-mail
after Declude is done).  That would account for why there was only 1 E-mail
being processed (that would be the queue run that runs every 30 minutes
or so), and a lot of E-mail in the spool.
   -Scott

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[Declude.Virus] Scanning Process

2002-12-16 Thread Keith Johnson
Title: Scanning Process






We are testing two virus scanners with Declude Pro and wanted to confirm or thoughts. Is it true that the scanners scan the file first, whether you have one, two, or five and then once done, the action on the virus is taken (i.e. quarantined)? 

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Re: [Declude.Virus] Scanning Process

2002-12-16 Thread R. Scott Perry


We are testing two virus scanners with Declude Pro and wanted to confirm 
or thoughts.  Is it true that the scanners scan the file first, whether 
you have one, two, or five and then once done, the action on the virus is 
taken (i.e. quarantined)?

That is correct.  Declude Virus Pro will check the attachments against all 
the virus scanners that you have configured, and if any of them report that 
a virus was detected, Declude Virus will quarantine the E-mail.
   -Scott

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[Declude.Virus] scanning ?

2002-04-25 Thread Visual Web Norge

Hi

Is this possible:

On the gateway server i want to recieve the mail and when its passed to my mailserver 
it will be scanned by declude.
So that the server just recieve the mail without scanning and first when it pass it to 
the other server it will be scanned on the
way out ?

Benny

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Re: [Declude.Virus] scanning ?

2002-04-25 Thread R. Scott Perry


Is this possible:

On the gateway server i want to recieve the mail and when its passed to my 
mailserver it will be scanned by declude.
So that the server just recieve the mail without scanning and first when 
it pass it to the other server it will be scanned on the
way out ?

I'm not entirely clear what you are looking to do here?

With a gateway setup, the gateway server will receive an E-mail, then 
Declude will scan it, and then it will get delivered to your existing 
mailserver.  Declude would only need to run on the gateway server, it would 
not need to run on the existing mailserver.
 -Scott

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DSN:Re: [Declude.Virus] scanning ?

2002-04-25 Thread smb

Declude scans the e-mail when it is received by IMail.

So if you set up a gateway server running Imail and Declude the gateway
server  will scan the e-mail before it delivers it to your other mail server.

Stu



At 06:10 PM 04/25/2002 +0200, you wrote:
Hi

Is this possible:

On the gateway server i want to recieve the mail and when its passed to my
mailserver it will be scanned by declude.
So that the server just recieve the mail without scanning and first when it
pass it to the other server it will be scanned on the
way out ?

Benny

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RE: Re: [Declude.Virus] scanning ?

2002-04-25 Thread Visual Web Norge

Yes i know that

but what i wanted was that Imail recived it on the gateway and on the way out it to 
the mailserver it would scan it.
this for speeding up the receiving

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 Declude scans the e-mail when it is received by IMail.
 
 So if you set up a gateway server running Imail and Declude the gateway
 server  will scan the e-mail before it delivers it to your other mail server.
 
 Stu
 
 
 
 At 06:10 PM 04/25/2002 +0200, you wrote:
 Hi
 
 Is this possible:
 
 On the gateway server i want to recieve the mail and when its passed to my
 mailserver it will be scanned by declude.
 So that the server just recieve the mail without scanning and first when it
 pass it to the other server it will be scanned on the
 way out ?
 
 Benny
 
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