RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-12 Thread Andy Schmidt
Clear enough for me.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Simpson
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 03:26 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude


All existing customers who choose to move to Version 4 will continue to pay
Service Agreements. If they opt not to pay for the Service Agreement the
software will continue to operate.

Barry

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 3:01 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

I noticed looking at my account the my version 4 license states "Declude
Imail Perpetual License"

Since v4 is the Subscription modle. If we are customers running on the
Maintenance modle and we decide to not renew maintenance and have upgraded
to version 4 will version 4 ever stop functioning for us?


Kevin Bilbee

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Simpson
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 7:22 AM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude
> 
> 
> Darin,
> 
> You are asking a question that I don't have an answer to at
> this moment. When the time arrives we will make a business 
> decision that will be in the best interests of both our 
> customers and ourselves. This is not a decision that will be 
> made lightly or in the near future.
> 
> We will not just announce one week that the next week we will
> be discontinuing support for V3. We will ensure that all 
> customers have an upgrade path of one form or another.
> 
> No customer needs to be concerned at this time that we are
> going to abandon them, that is not the way we do business.
> 
> Barry
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:04 AM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude
> 
> So what will happen to customers on SAs at that time?  See
> why we're asking the questions?
> 
> Darin.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -----
> From: "Barry Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:58 AM
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude
> 
> 
> Don,
> 
> You are correct, it would be better to have only one product
> and that is why we are making the offer to customers to move 
> to the highest level of the software at special pricing.
> 
> We also recognize that some customers don't want to do that
> so for the foreseeable future we are maintaining the two code bases.
> 
> We are not going to force customers to move. At some point in
> the future V3 will go onto maintenance but that date has not 
> yet been decided.
> 
> Barry
> 
> -----Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Brown
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:47 AM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude
> 
> Friday, February 10, 2006, 3:20:03 PM, Kevin Bilbee
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> KB> [Snip]
> KB>
> KB> On the  buying issue what do you get, the two products
> will be kept
> KB> in
> parity feature  wise.
> KB>
> KB> Kevin  Bilbee
> KB>
> KB> [Snip]
> 
> If that is truly the case, then it makes sense to have only
> one version, 4.0.  Then, the only difference will be that 
> some customers are on an annual maint agreement and others 
> pay an annual subscription.
> 
> 
> 
> Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.inetconcepts.net
> (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049
> 
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Re: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-12 Thread Darin Cox
Hmmm... Barry, that is exactly what I was asking before when I asked

"So what will happen to customers on SAs at that time [when v3 is
discontinued] ?"

and you told me

"You are asking a question that I don't have an answer to at this moment.
When the time arrives we will make a business decision that will be in the
best interests of both our customers and ourselves. This is not a decision
that will be made lightly or in the near future."

We will not just announce one week that the next week we will be
discontinuing support for V3. We will ensure that all customers have an
upgrade path of one form or another.

No customer needs to be concerned at this time that we are going to abandon
them, that is not the way we do business."


This answer to Kevin is what I was hoping for, and obviously needed to know
before I would budget any additional funds for Declude maintenance.

Darin.

- Original Message - 
From: "Barry Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 3:26 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude


All existing customers who choose to move to Version 4 will continue to pay
Service Agreements. If they opt not to pay for the Service Agreement the
software will continue to operate.

Barry

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 3:01 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

I noticed looking at my account the my version 4 license states "Declude
Imail Perpetual License"

Since v4 is the Subscription modle. If we are customers running on the
Maintenance modle and we decide to not renew maintenance and have upgraded
to version 4 will version 4 ever stop functioning for us?


Kevin Bilbee

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Simpson
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 7:22 AM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude
>
>
> Darin,
>
> You are asking a question that I don't have an answer to at
> this moment. When the time arrives we will make a business
> decision that will be in the best interests of both our
> customers and ourselves. This is not a decision that will be
> made lightly or in the near future.
>
> We will not just announce one week that the next week we will
> be discontinuing support for V3. We will ensure that all
> customers have an upgrade path of one form or another.
>
> No customer needs to be concerned at this time that we are
> going to abandon them, that is not the way we do business.
>
> Barry
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:04 AM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude
>
> So what will happen to customers on SAs at that time?  See
> why we're asking the questions?
>
> Darin.
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Barry Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:58 AM
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude
>
>
> Don,
>
> You are correct, it would be better to have only one product
> and that is why we are making the offer to customers to move
> to the highest level of the software at special pricing.
>
> We also recognize that some customers don't want to do that
> so for the foreseeable future we are maintaining the two code bases.
>
> We are not going to force customers to move. At some point in
> the future V3 will go onto maintenance but that date has not
> yet been decided.
>
> Barry
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Brown
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:47 AM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude
>
> Friday, February 10, 2006, 3:20:03 PM, Kevin Bilbee
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> KB> [Snip]
> KB>
> KB> On the  buying issue what do you get, the two products
> will be kept
> KB> in
> parity feature  wise.
> KB>
> KB> Kevin  Bilbee
> KB>
> KB> [Snip]
>
> If that is truly the case, then it makes sense to have only
> one version, 4.0.  Then, the only difference will be that
> some customers are on an annual maint agreement and others
> pay an annual subscription.
>
>
> 
> Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.inetconcepts.net
> (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049
> 
>
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-12 Thread Barry Simpson
All existing customers who choose to move to Version 4 will continue to pay
Service Agreements. If they opt not to pay for the Service Agreement the
software will continue to operate.

Barry

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 3:01 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

I noticed looking at my account the my version 4 license states "Declude
Imail Perpetual License"

Since v4 is the Subscription modle. If we are customers running on the
Maintenance modle and we decide to not renew maintenance and have upgraded
to version 4 will version 4 ever stop functioning for us?


Kevin Bilbee

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Simpson
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 7:22 AM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude
> 
> 
> Darin,
> 
> You are asking a question that I don't have an answer to at 
> this moment. When the time arrives we will make a business 
> decision that will be in the best interests of both our 
> customers and ourselves. This is not a decision that will be 
> made lightly or in the near future.
> 
> We will not just announce one week that the next week we will 
> be discontinuing support for V3. We will ensure that all 
> customers have an upgrade path of one form or another.
> 
> No customer needs to be concerned at this time that we are 
> going to abandon them, that is not the way we do business.
> 
> Barry
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:04 AM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude
> 
> So what will happen to customers on SAs at that time?  See 
> why we're asking the questions?
> 
> Darin.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Barry Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:58 AM
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude
> 
> 
> Don,
> 
> You are correct, it would be better to have only one product 
> and that is why we are making the offer to customers to move 
> to the highest level of the software at special pricing.
> 
> We also recognize that some customers don't want to do that 
> so for the foreseeable future we are maintaining the two code bases.
> 
> We are not going to force customers to move. At some point in 
> the future V3 will go onto maintenance but that date has not 
> yet been decided.
> 
> Barry
> 
> -----Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Brown
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:47 AM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude
> 
> Friday, February 10, 2006, 3:20:03 PM, Kevin Bilbee 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> KB> [Snip]
> KB>
> KB> On the  buying issue what do you get, the two products 
> will be kept 
> KB> in
> parity feature  wise.
> KB>
> KB> Kevin  Bilbee
> KB>
> KB> [Snip]
> 
> If that is truly the case, then it makes sense to have only 
> one version, 4.0.  Then, the only difference will be that 
> some customers are on an annual maint agreement and others 
> pay an annual subscription.
> 
> 
> 
> Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.inetconcepts.net
> (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049
> 
> 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-12 Thread Kevin Bilbee
I noticed looking at my account the my version 4 license states "Declude
Imail Perpetual License"

Since v4 is the Subscription modle. If we are customers running on the
Maintenance modle and we decide to not renew maintenance and have upgraded
to version 4 will version 4 ever stop functioning for us?


Kevin Bilbee

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Simpson
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 7:22 AM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude
> 
> 
> Darin,
> 
> You are asking a question that I don't have an answer to at 
> this moment. When the time arrives we will make a business 
> decision that will be in the best interests of both our 
> customers and ourselves. This is not a decision that will be 
> made lightly or in the near future.
> 
> We will not just announce one week that the next week we will 
> be discontinuing support for V3. We will ensure that all 
> customers have an upgrade path of one form or another.
> 
> No customer needs to be concerned at this time that we are 
> going to abandon them, that is not the way we do business.
> 
> Barry
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:04 AM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude
> 
> So what will happen to customers on SAs at that time?  See 
> why we're asking the questions?
> 
> Darin.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Barry Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:58 AM
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude
> 
> 
> Don,
> 
> You are correct, it would be better to have only one product 
> and that is why we are making the offer to customers to move 
> to the highest level of the software at special pricing.
> 
> We also recognize that some customers don't want to do that 
> so for the foreseeable future we are maintaining the two code bases.
> 
> We are not going to force customers to move. At some point in 
> the future V3 will go onto maintenance but that date has not 
> yet been decided.
> 
> Barry
> 
> -----Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Brown
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:47 AM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude
> 
> Friday, February 10, 2006, 3:20:03 PM, Kevin Bilbee 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> KB> [Snip]
> KB>
> KB> On the  buying issue what do you get, the two products 
> will be kept 
> KB> in
> parity feature  wise.
> KB>
> KB> Kevin  Bilbee
> KB>
> KB> [Snip]
> 
> If that is truly the case, then it makes sense to have only 
> one version, 4.0.  Then, the only difference will be that 
> some customers are on an annual maint agreement and others 
> pay an annual subscription.
> 
> 
> 
> Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.inetconcepts.net
> (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049
> 
> 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-12 Thread Barry Simpson
Darin,

You are asking a question that I don't have an answer to at this moment.
When the time arrives we will make a business decision that will be in the
best interests of both our customers and ourselves. This is not a decision
that will be made lightly or in the near future.

We will not just announce one week that the next week we will be
discontinuing support for V3. We will ensure that all customers have an
upgrade path of one form or another.

No customer needs to be concerned at this time that we are going to abandon
them, that is not the way we do business.

Barry

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:04 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

So what will happen to customers on SAs at that time?  See why we're asking
the questions?

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: "Barry Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:58 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude


Don,

You are correct, it would be better to have only one product and that is why
we are making the offer to customers to move to the highest level of the
software at special pricing.

We also recognize that some customers don't want to do that so for the
foreseeable future we are maintaining the two code bases.

We are not going to force customers to move. At some point in the future V3
will go onto maintenance but that date has not yet been decided.

Barry

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Brown
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:47 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

Friday, February 10, 2006, 3:20:03 PM, Kevin Bilbee
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
KB> [Snip]
KB>
KB> On the  buying issue what do you get, the two products will be kept in
parity feature  wise.
KB>
KB> Kevin  Bilbee
KB>
KB> [Snip]

If that is truly the case, then it makes sense to have only one
version, 4.0.  Then, the only difference will be that some customers
are on an annual maint agreement and others pay an annual
subscription.



Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.inetconcepts.net
(972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049


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Re: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-12 Thread Darin Cox
So what will happen to customers on SAs at that time?  See why we're asking
the questions?

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: "Barry Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:58 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude


Don,

You are correct, it would be better to have only one product and that is why
we are making the offer to customers to move to the highest level of the
software at special pricing.

We also recognize that some customers don't want to do that so for the
foreseeable future we are maintaining the two code bases.

We are not going to force customers to move. At some point in the future V3
will go onto maintenance but that date has not yet been decided.

Barry

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Brown
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:47 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

Friday, February 10, 2006, 3:20:03 PM, Kevin Bilbee
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
KB> [Snip]
KB>
KB> On the  buying issue what do you get, the two products will be kept in
parity feature  wise.
KB>
KB> Kevin  Bilbee
KB>
KB> [Snip]

If that is truly the case, then it makes sense to have only one
version, 4.0.  Then, the only difference will be that some customers
are on an annual maint agreement and others pay an annual
subscription.



Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.inetconcepts.net
(972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049


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RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-12 Thread Barry Simpson
Don,

You are correct, it would be better to have only one product and that is why
we are making the offer to customers to move to the highest level of the
software at special pricing.

We also recognize that some customers don't want to do that so for the
foreseeable future we are maintaining the two code bases.

We are not going to force customers to move. At some point in the future V3
will go onto maintenance but that date has not yet been decided.

Barry

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Brown
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:47 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

Friday, February 10, 2006, 3:20:03 PM, Kevin Bilbee
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
KB> [Snip]
KB>
KB> On the  buying issue what do you get, the two products will be kept in
parity feature  wise.
KB>
KB> Kevin  Bilbee
KB>  
KB> [Snip]

If that is truly the case, then it makes sense to have only one
version, 4.0.  Then, the only difference will be that some customers
are on an annual maint agreement and others pay an annual
subscription.



Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.inetconcepts.net
(972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049


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Re: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-12 Thread Don Brown
Friday, February 10, 2006, 3:20:03 PM, Kevin Bilbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
KB> [Snip]
KB>
KB> On the  buying issue what do you get, the two products will be kept in 
parity feature  wise.
KB>
KB> Kevin  Bilbee
KB>  
KB> [Snip]

If that is truly the case, then it makes sense to have only one
version, 4.0.  Then, the only difference will be that some customers
are on an annual maint agreement and others pay an annual
subscription.



Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.inetconcepts.net
(972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049


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RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-10 Thread Marc Catuogno








I didn’t get an e-mail.  Don’t
you like me? : )~

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006
1:47 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Changes @
Declude



 



In the last 10 days
we have received a number of inquiries to the email sent to every customer
explaining the changes that are happening here at Declude. To summarize the
answers to those questions:

 

* No existing customer is required to move to the new annual
pricing.

* Our current customers can continue to pay the annual
Service Agreements.

* No customer is required to move to 4.0

 

Over and above that we are continuing to enhance and support
both 3.0 and 4.0 and we have provided great deals for customers wishing to move
to the 4.0 version and also committed to keeping them on Service Agreements.

 

I have responded to each and every customer who has
contacted me since the email was sent out and if any one has any further
questions they can contact me either by email or telephone (978) 499-2933.

 

Barry










RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-10 Thread Andy Schmidt



Hi Kevin,
 
I understand what you're saying - you believe Declude 
4.0 is really just a "Declude 3.x Suite" vs. the Declude 3.x "legacy 
products". New customers can only purchase the Suite, while old customers 
will continue to upgrade their individual products. The code base is the 
same.  
 
In that case, the confusion stems from using a "version 
numbering" scheme, instead of using a proper "packaging" 
scheme.
 
This would be comparable to what IpSwitch did eventually. 
New customers have to buy the bloated Imail suite, while existing customers can 
continue buy service agreements for the Imail mail server 
product.
 
Let's see if Declude can confirm your 
understanding.
 
Then we'll just have to find out what the "subscription" 
is. Is it a "service agreement subscription" (where you can continue to use the 
existing product version, even if the subscription is not renewed), or if it is 
a "license subscription" (where your license terminates if you fail to 
renew at some point).
Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax:    +1 201 934-9206 
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin 
BilbeeSent: Friday, February 10, 2006 04:20 PMTo: 
Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ 
Declude

Declude 4.x is all the products in one with a common license key and are 
not seperatable.
 
On the 
buying issue what do you get, the two products will be kept in parity feature 
wise.
 
 
Kevin 
Bilbee

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On 
  Behalf Of Andy SchmidtSent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:02 
  AMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: 
  [Declude.Virus] Changes @ DecludeImportance: 
  High
  Has anyone figured out yet WHAT exactly Declude 4.0 
  IS?
   
  I'm looking around on the web site (figured, it's been 
  days since I receive the notice that it's available), but I still haven't seen 
  anything on the web site that tells me what my extra money would be buying - 
  or, what it is I'd be missing out on if I don't buy?
  Best 
  RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 
  (Business)Fax:    +1 201 934-9206 
   
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 01:47 
  PMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] 
  Changes @ Declude
  
  
  In the 
  last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the email sent to every 
  customer explaining the changes that are happening here at Declude. To 
  summarize the answers to those questions:
   
  * No existing 
  customer is required to move to the new annual pricing.
  * Our current 
  customers can continue to pay the annual Service Agreements.
  * No customer 
  is required to move to 4.0
   
  Over and above 
  that we are continuing to enhance and support both 3.0 and 4.0 and we have 
  provided great deals for customers wishing to move to the 4.0 version and also 
  committed to keeping them on Service Agreements.
   
  I have 
  responded to each and every customer who has contacted me since the email was 
  sent out and if any one has any further questions they can contact me either 
  by email or telephone (978) 499-2933.
   
  Barry


RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-10 Thread Kevin Bilbee



Declude 4.x is all the products in one with a common license key and are 
not seperatable.
 
On the 
buying issue what do you get, the two products will be kept in parity feature 
wise.
 
 
Kevin 
Bilbee

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On 
  Behalf Of Andy SchmidtSent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:02 
  AMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: 
  [Declude.Virus] Changes @ DecludeImportance: 
  High
  Has anyone figured out yet WHAT exactly Declude 4.0 
  IS?
   
  I'm looking around on the web site (figured, it's been 
  days since I receive the notice that it's available), but I still haven't seen 
  anything on the web site that tells me what my extra money would be buying - 
  or, what it is I'd be missing out on if I don't buy?
  Best 
  RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 
  (Business)Fax:    +1 201 934-9206 
   
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 01:47 
  PMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] 
  Changes @ Declude
  
  
  In the 
  last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the email sent to every 
  customer explaining the changes that are happening here at Declude. To 
  summarize the answers to those questions:
   
  * No existing 
  customer is required to move to the new annual pricing.
  * Our current 
  customers can continue to pay the annual Service Agreements.
  * No customer 
  is required to move to 4.0
   
  Over and above 
  that we are continuing to enhance and support both 3.0 and 4.0 and we have 
  provided great deals for customers wishing to move to the 4.0 version and also 
  committed to keeping them on Service Agreements.
   
  I have 
  responded to each and every customer who has contacted me since the email was 
  sent out and if any one has any further questions they can contact me either 
  by email or telephone (978) 499-2933.
   
  Barry


Re: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-10 Thread Darin Cox



I didn't receive it either.  I checked the 
logs and nothing came in from Declude.
Darin.
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: Scott 
Fisher 
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com 
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

-Barry, 
 
I did not receive the email sent to every customer 
(and I have Declude whitelisted). That irks me even more.
 
Not having received the email, this all comes 
straight out of left field for me. If I had received the email, perhaps it 
wouldn't be such an unpleasant shock.
It certainly is ruining my day off, I'll tell you 
that.
 
As for two continuing with two different version 
levels, I'll tell you my comfort level for running the lower version definitely 
isn't high. 
Today you are committed to the version 3 
customers,  but just with the version numbers, I'm feeling I have a lesser 
product.
Declude version 3 is a dead end on the Declude 
product tree. It is just a matter of when.
 
Will all future enhancements be going into version 
3? What are the planned enhancements?
Tell us how Declude is planning to improve the 
product.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:47 
  PM
  Subject: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ 
  Declude
  
  
  In the 
  last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the email sent to every 
  customer explaining the changes that are happening here at Declude. To 
  summarize the answers to those questions:
   
  * No existing 
  customer is required to move to the new annual pricing.
  * Our current 
  customers can continue to pay the annual Service Agreements.
  * No customer 
  is required to move to 4.0
   
  Over and above 
  that we are continuing to enhance and support both 3.0 and 4.0 and we have 
  provided great deals for customers wishing to move to the 4.0 version and also 
  committed to keeping them on Service Agreements.
   
  I have 
  responded to each and every customer who has contacted me since the email was 
  sent out and if any one has any further questions they can contact me either 
  by email or telephone (978) 499-2933.
   
  Barry


Re: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-10 Thread Scott Fisher



-Barry, 
 
I did not receive the email sent to every customer 
(and I have Declude whitelisted). That irks me even more.
 
Not having received the email, this all comes 
straight out of left field for me. If I had received the email, perhaps it 
wouldn't be such an unpleasant shock.
It certainly is ruining my day off, I'll tell you 
that.
 
As for two continuing with two different version 
levels, I'll tell you my comfort level for running the lower version definitely 
isn't high. 
Today you are committed to the version 3 
customers,  but just with the version numbers, I'm feeling I have a lesser 
product.
Declude version 3 is a dead end on the Declude 
product tree. It is just a matter of when.
 
Will all future enhancements be going into version 
3? What are the planned enhancements?
Tell us how Declude is planning to improve the 
product.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:47 
  PM
  Subject: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ 
  Declude
  
  
  In the 
  last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the email sent to every 
  customer explaining the changes that are happening here at Declude. To 
  summarize the answers to those questions:
   
  * No existing 
  customer is required to move to the new annual pricing.
  * Our current 
  customers can continue to pay the annual Service Agreements.
  * No customer 
  is required to move to 4.0
   
  Over and above 
  that we are continuing to enhance and support both 3.0 and 4.0 and we have 
  provided great deals for customers wishing to move to the 4.0 version and also 
  committed to keeping them on Service Agreements.
   
  I have 
  responded to each and every customer who has contacted me since the email was 
  sent out and if any one has any further questions they can contact me either 
  by email or telephone (978) 499-2933.
   
  Barry


RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-10 Thread Grant Griffith








I have not seen it either, I just received
an email on Thursday saying details coming soon…

 



Thanks,
Grant Griffith
Web Application Developer
Enhanced Telecommunications Corp.
(812)932-1000











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Grosshandler
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006
1:55 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus]
Changes @ Declude



 

I for one do not recall receiving such an
e-mail. 

 

I'm not complaining, just posting here in
case others have a similar issue.

 

Since I didn't get it, is there a way to
see that e-mail online someplace?

 

Thanks,

 

Rob 

 







From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006
12:47 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Changes @
Declude



In the last 10 days
we have received a number of inquiries to the email sent to every customer
explaining the changes that are happening here at Declude. To summarize the
answers to those questions:

 












RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-10 Thread Andy Schmidt



Has anyone figured out yet WHAT exactly Declude 4.0 
IS?
 
I'm looking around on the web site (figured, it's been days 
since I receive the notice that it's available), but I still haven't seen 
anything on the web site that tells me what my extra money would be buying - or, 
what it is I'd be missing out on if I don't buy?
Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax:    +1 201 934-9206 
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 01:47 
PMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] 
Changes @ Declude


In the 
last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the email sent to every 
customer explaining the changes that are happening here at Declude. To summarize 
the answers to those questions:
 
* No existing 
customer is required to move to the new annual pricing.
* Our current 
customers can continue to pay the annual Service Agreements.
* No customer is 
required to move to 4.0
 
Over and above 
that we are continuing to enhance and support both 3.0 and 4.0 and we have 
provided great deals for customers wishing to move to the 4.0 version and also 
committed to keeping them on Service Agreements.
 
I have responded 
to each and every customer who has contacted me since the email was sent out and 
if any one has any further questions they can contact me either by email or 
telephone (978) 499-2933.
 
Barry


RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-10 Thread Robert Grosshandler



I for one do not recall receiving such an 
e-mail. 
 
I'm not complaining, just posting here in case others have 
a similar issue.
 
Since I didn't get it, is there a way to see that e-mail 
online someplace?
 
Thanks,
 
Rob 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:47 
PMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] 
Changes @ Declude


In the 
last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the email sent to every 
customer explaining the changes that are happening here at Declude. To summarize 
the answers to those questions: