RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

2003-10-02 Thread Chad Killion
Well, I have upgraded to 3.14, but still see TONS of these viruses getting
through.  Please help if you can...

Chad

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Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

 No wonder I'm still getting slammed with systems trying to send this virus
 to my users.

This was a big thread back in July. F-Prot was only catching the Blaster
worm if it tried to run (Desktop Real Time). But it was not detected in the
scanning of email even after the definition file updates. F-Prot released
3.14a to fix this in the actual engine. I was blocking it by banned file
extensions! So this was another valid reason to block certain extensions.


Sheldon


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RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

2003-10-02 Thread Darrell LaRock
Chad,

Is there any reason why you can't filter on common virus extensions.  This
will cutdown on many viruses.  It is common practice not to accept exe, com,
bat, pif, scr, and the list goes on...

Darrell


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Well, I have upgraded to 3.14, but still see TONS of these viruses getting
through.  Please help if you can...

Chad

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Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

 No wonder I'm still getting slammed with systems trying to send this virus
 to my users.

This was a big thread back in July. F-Prot was only catching the Blaster
worm if it tried to run (Desktop Real Time). But it was not detected in the
scanning of email even after the definition file updates. F-Prot released
3.14a to fix this in the actual engine. I was blocking it by banned file
extensions! So this was another valid reason to block certain extensions.


Sheldon


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RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

2003-10-02 Thread Chad Killion
We have never filtered EXE before, so it would just cause too many problems
to do this now.  We have well over 25 thousand customers using this server,
and I hate to spring something like that on them.  The others, sure, we can
exclude those, but just don't want to do EXE.  Thanks.

Chad


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Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 10:14 AM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

Chad,

Is there any reason why you can't filter on common virus extensions.  This
will cutdown on many viruses.  It is common practice not to accept exe, com,
bat, pif, scr, and the list goes on...

Darrell


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Killion
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 11:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

Well, I have upgraded to 3.14, but still see TONS of these viruses getting
through.  Please help if you can...

Chad

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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 5:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

 No wonder I'm still getting slammed with systems trying to send this virus
 to my users.

This was a big thread back in July. F-Prot was only catching the Blaster
worm if it tried to run (Desktop Real Time). But it was not detected in the
scanning of email even after the definition file updates. F-Prot released
3.14a to fix this in the actual engine. I was blocking it by banned file
extensions! So this was another valid reason to block certain extensions.


Sheldon


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Ten Forward Communications   360-457-9023
Nationwide access, neighborhood support!

Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time
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Re: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

2003-10-02 Thread Jason Newland
I would suggest a notification to users telling them that as of X date, the
e-mail system will no longer accept/transmit e-mails that have .exe/.bat/or
whatever extentions attached.  Then give them a breif, and honest
explanation of the risks that it poses them and you.  You can even include
information on how to continue to send these files, but in a faster way
(zip)

Keeping up front and honest with your customers will always result in better
satisfaction.  You are perceived as looking out for them.


Jason

- Original Message -
From: Chad Killion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 10:36 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails


 We have never filtered EXE before, so it would just cause too many
problems
 to do this now.  We have well over 25 thousand customers using this
server,
 and I hate to spring something like that on them.  The others, sure, we
can
 exclude those, but just don't want to do EXE.  Thanks.

 Chad


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell LaRock
 Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 10:14 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

 Chad,

 Is there any reason why you can't filter on common virus extensions.  This
 will cutdown on many viruses.  It is common practice not to accept exe,
com,
 bat, pif, scr, and the list goes on...

 Darrell


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Killion
 Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 11:03 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

 Well, I have upgraded to 3.14, but still see TONS of these viruses getting
 through.  Please help if you can...

 Chad

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sheldon Koehler
 Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 5:38 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

  No wonder I'm still getting slammed with systems trying to send this
virus
  to my users.

 This was a big thread back in July. F-Prot was only catching the Blaster
 worm if it tried to run (Desktop Real Time). But it was not detected in
the
 scanning of email even after the definition file updates. F-Prot released
 3.14a to fix this in the actual engine. I was blocking it by banned file
 extensions! So this was another valid reason to block certain extensions.


 Sheldon


 Sheldon Koehler, Owner/Partnerhttp://www.tenforward.com
 Ten Forward Communications   360-457-9023
 Nationwide access, neighborhood support!

 Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time
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RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

2003-10-02 Thread Jeff Maze - Hostmaster
Hmm, I'd just send out an e-mail stating that due to recent influx of
virus's and virus's contained within EXE files, you're updating the mail
server security policy.  Then state that beginning %on this date% the
following file extensions will be blocked:  yadda-yadda-yadda.

Most will be angry that you're doing this, but ask them to zip the files if
they wish for them to be sent.  I know about the customer support aspect of
it, but if you explain that you're watching out for their well-being from a
possible virus infection stand-point, a lot will see your point and that'll
be the end of it.

Sometimes it's good to be the administrator..  Hahaha


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Killion
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 11:37 AM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails


We have never filtered EXE before, so it would just cause too many problems
to do this now.  We have well over 25 thousand customers using this server,
and I hate to spring something like that on them.  The others, sure, we can
exclude those, but just don't want to do EXE.  Thanks.

Chad


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell LaRock
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 10:14 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

Chad,

Is there any reason why you can't filter on common virus extensions.  This
will cutdown on many viruses.  It is common practice not to accept exe, com,
bat, pif, scr, and the list goes on...

Darrell


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Killion
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 11:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

Well, I have upgraded to 3.14, but still see TONS of these viruses getting
through.  Please help if you can...

Chad

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sheldon Koehler
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 5:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

 No wonder I'm still getting slammed with systems trying to send this 
 virus to my users.

This was a big thread back in July. F-Prot was only catching the Blaster
worm if it tried to run (Desktop Real Time). But it was not detected in the
scanning of email even after the definition file updates. F-Prot released
3.14a to fix this in the actual engine. I was blocking it by banned file
extensions! So this was another valid reason to block certain extensions.


Sheldon


Sheldon Koehler, Owner/Partnerhttp://www.tenforward.com
Ten Forward Communications   360-457-9023
Nationwide access, neighborhood support!

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RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

2003-10-02 Thread Greg Foulks
If you don't start to block these dangerous extensions it's just going to
continue to cause you problems in the future.

My users where not happy at first but after I explained why they were all
more than happy to help fight the spread of viruses.

Greg



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I would suggest a notification to users telling them that as of X date, the
e-mail system will no longer accept/transmit e-mails that have .exe/.bat/or
whatever extentions attached.  Then give them a breif, and honest
explanation of the risks that it poses them and you.  You can even include
information on how to continue to send these files, but in a faster way
(zip)

Keeping up front and honest with your customers will always result in better
satisfaction.  You are perceived as looking out for them.


Jason

- Original Message -
From: Chad Killion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 10:36 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails


 We have never filtered EXE before, so it would just cause too many
problems
 to do this now.  We have well over 25 thousand customers using this
server,
 and I hate to spring something like that on them.  The others, sure, we
can
 exclude those, but just don't want to do EXE.  Thanks.

 Chad


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell LaRock
 Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 10:14 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

 Chad,

 Is there any reason why you can't filter on common virus extensions.  This
 will cutdown on many viruses.  It is common practice not to accept exe,
com,
 bat, pif, scr, and the list goes on...

 Darrell


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Killion
 Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 11:03 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

 Well, I have upgraded to 3.14, but still see TONS of these viruses getting
 through.  Please help if you can...

 Chad

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sheldon Koehler
 Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 5:38 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

  No wonder I'm still getting slammed with systems trying to send this
virus
  to my users.

 This was a big thread back in July. F-Prot was only catching the Blaster
 worm if it tried to run (Desktop Real Time). But it was not detected in
the
 scanning of email even after the definition file updates. F-Prot released
 3.14a to fix this in the actual engine. I was blocking it by banned file
 extensions! So this was another valid reason to block certain extensions.


 Sheldon


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RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

2003-10-02 Thread R. Scott Perry

Well, I have upgraded to 3.14, but still see TONS of these viruses getting
through.  Please help if you can...
Have you checked to see that:

[1] They actually have an .exe (or similar) attachment?
[2] The attachment is not 0 bytes?
[3] The attachment is complete, and not truncated?
Any E-mails that don't meet those three requirements will normally not get 
caught (as they are safe, just annoying).

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

2003-10-02 Thread Chad Killion
What is the best way to exclude these in your opinion???  Can Declude do it,
or Imail?

Chad

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
(Lists)
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Chad, exe is the absolute first extension that should be banned.

In the three years I have been doing this, I have had a handful of
complaints about this. Once I explained the reason, they agreed.

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
www.eservicesforyou.com


 -Original Message-
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Killion
 Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 8:37 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails
 
 We have never filtered EXE before, so it would just cause too many
problems
 to do this now.  We have well over 25 thousand customers using this
server,
 and I hate to spring something like that on them.  The others, sure, we
can
 exclude those, but just don't want to do EXE.  Thanks.
 
 Chad
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell LaRock
 Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 10:14 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails
 
 Chad,
 
 Is there any reason why you can't filter on common virus extensions.  This
 will cutdown on many viruses.  It is common practice not to accept exe,
com,
 bat, pif, scr, and the list goes on...
 
 Darrell
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Killion
 Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 11:03 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails
 
 Well, I have upgraded to 3.14, but still see TONS of these viruses getting
 through.  Please help if you can...
 
 Chad
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sheldon Koehler
 Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 5:38 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails
 
  No wonder I'm still getting slammed with systems trying to send this
virus
  to my users.
 
 This was a big thread back in July. F-Prot was only catching the Blaster
 worm if it tried to run (Desktop Real Time). But it was not detected in
the
 scanning of email even after the definition file updates. F-Prot released
 3.14a to fix this in the actual engine. I was blocking it by banned file
 extensions! So this was another valid reason to block certain extensions.
 
 
 Sheldon
 
 
 Sheldon Koehler, Owner/Partnerhttp://www.tenforward.com
 Ten Forward Communications   360-457-9023
 Nationwide access, neighborhood support!
 
 Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time
 to pause and reflect. Mark Twain
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

2003-10-02 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
With Declude Virus.

In the Virus.cfg file, for each banned extension, you have a line like so:

BANEXT  exe
BANEXT  pif

And so forth.

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
www.eservicesforyou.com


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Killion
 Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 1:31 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails
 
 What is the best way to exclude these in your opinion???  Can Declude do
it,
 or Imail?
 
 Chad
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
 (Lists)
 Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 1:38 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails
 
 Chad, exe is the absolute first extension that should be banned.
 
 In the three years I have been doing this, I have had a handful of
 complaints about this. Once I explained the reason, they agreed.
 
 John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
 Engineer/Consultant
 eServices For You
 www.eservicesforyou.com
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Killion
  Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 8:37 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails
 
  We have never filtered EXE before, so it would just cause too many
 problems
  to do this now.  We have well over 25 thousand customers using this
 server,
  and I hate to spring something like that on them.  The others, sure, we
 can
  exclude those, but just don't want to do EXE.  Thanks.
 
  Chad
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell LaRock
  Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 10:14 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails
 
  Chad,
 
  Is there any reason why you can't filter on common virus extensions.
This
  will cutdown on many viruses.  It is common practice not to accept exe,
 com,
  bat, pif, scr, and the list goes on...
 
  Darrell
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Killion
  Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 11:03 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails
 
  Well, I have upgraded to 3.14, but still see TONS of these viruses
getting
  through.  Please help if you can...
 
  Chad
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sheldon Koehler
  Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 5:38 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails
 
   No wonder I'm still getting slammed with systems trying to send this
 virus
   to my users.
 
  This was a big thread back in July. F-Prot was only catching the Blaster
  worm if it tried to run (Desktop Real Time). But it was not detected in
 the
  scanning of email even after the definition file updates. F-Prot
released
  3.14a to fix this in the actual engine. I was blocking it by banned file
  extensions! So this was another valid reason to block certain
extensions.
 
 
  Sheldon
 
 
  Sheldon Koehler, Owner/Partnerhttp://www.tenforward.com
  Ten Forward Communications   360-457-9023
  Nationwide access, neighborhood support!
 
  Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time
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RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

2003-10-02 Thread Chad Killion
So with that done, what does the user sending the executable get?  Do they
get a returned email with an error, and if so, would you be so kind as to
show me what message you show people.  I just hate to jump in blind, if
someone already has it figured out.

Chad

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
(Lists)
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 3:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

With Declude Virus.

In the Virus.cfg file, for each banned extension, you have a line like so:

BANEXT  exe
BANEXT  pif

And so forth.

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
www.eservicesforyou.com


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Killion
 Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 1:31 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails
 
 What is the best way to exclude these in your opinion???  Can Declude do
it,
 or Imail?
 
 Chad
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
 (Lists)
 Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 1:38 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails
 
 Chad, exe is the absolute first extension that should be banned.
 
 In the three years I have been doing this, I have had a handful of
 complaints about this. Once I explained the reason, they agreed.
 
 John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
 Engineer/Consultant
 eServices For You
 www.eservicesforyou.com
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Killion
  Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 8:37 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails
 
  We have never filtered EXE before, so it would just cause too many
 problems
  to do this now.  We have well over 25 thousand customers using this
 server,
  and I hate to spring something like that on them.  The others, sure, we
 can
  exclude those, but just don't want to do EXE.  Thanks.
 
  Chad
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell LaRock
  Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 10:14 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails
 
  Chad,
 
  Is there any reason why you can't filter on common virus extensions.
This
  will cutdown on many viruses.  It is common practice not to accept exe,
 com,
  bat, pif, scr, and the list goes on...
 
  Darrell
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Killion
  Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 11:03 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails
 
  Well, I have upgraded to 3.14, but still see TONS of these viruses
getting
  through.  Please help if you can...
 
  Chad
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sheldon Koehler
  Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 5:38 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails
 
   No wonder I'm still getting slammed with systems trying to send this
 virus
   to my users.
 
  This was a big thread back in July. F-Prot was only catching the Blaster
  worm if it tried to run (Desktop Real Time). But it was not detected in
 the
  scanning of email even after the definition file updates. F-Prot
released
  3.14a to fix this in the actual engine. I was blocking it by banned file
  extensions! So this was another valid reason to block certain
extensions.
 
 
  Sheldon
 
 
  Sheldon Koehler, Owner/Partnerhttp://www.tenforward.com
  Ten Forward Communications   360-457-9023
  Nationwide access, neighborhood support!
 
  Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time
  to pause and reflect. Mark Twain
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

2003-10-02 Thread Kami Razvan
 
Chad:

This is what we have in our virus.cfg file.  No regrets and no apologies for
blocking them.  We think of this as a fact of life... 

BANEXT  asp
BANEXT  bas
BANEXT  bat
BANEXT  CEO
BANEXT  chm
BANEXT  cmd
BANEXT  com
BANEXT  exe
BANEXT  hlp
BANEXT  hta
BANEXT  inf
BANEXT  isp
BANEXT  js
BANEXT  jse
BANEXT  lnk
BANEXT  msi
BANEXT  mst
BANEXT  pcd
BANEXT  pif
BANEXT  reg
BANEXT  scr
BANEXT  url
BANEXT  vbe
BANEXT  vbs
BANEXT  ws
BANEXT  wsh

BANEXT  ad
BANEXT  adp 
BANEXT  crt 
BANEXT  ins 
BANEXT  mdb 
BANEXT  mde 
BANEXT  msc 
BANEXT  msp 
BANEXT  sct 
BANEXT  shb 
BANEXT  vb
BANEXT  wsc 
BANEXT  wsf 
BANEXT  cpl 
BANEXT  shs 
BANEXT  vsd 
BANEXT  vst
BANEXT  vss 
BANEXT  vsw

This has been discussed in the list a while back and there are links on
Microsoft web site that explains most of these..

Regards,
Kami

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Killion
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

What is the best way to exclude these in your opinion???  Can Declude do it,
or Imail?

Chad

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RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

2003-10-02 Thread Chad Killion
Ok thanks, but what does a user who sends this type of ext get from our
server?  Is there some sort of eml file I need to add?

Chad

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kami Razvan
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

 
Chad:

This is what we have in our virus.cfg file.  No regrets and no apologies for
blocking them.  We think of this as a fact of life... 

BANEXT  asp
BANEXT  bas
BANEXT  bat
BANEXT  CEO
BANEXT  chm
BANEXT  cmd
BANEXT  com
BANEXT  exe
BANEXT  hlp
BANEXT  hta
BANEXT  inf
BANEXT  isp
BANEXT  js
BANEXT  jse
BANEXT  lnk
BANEXT  msi
BANEXT  mst
BANEXT  pcd
BANEXT  pif
BANEXT  reg
BANEXT  scr
BANEXT  url
BANEXT  vbe
BANEXT  vbs
BANEXT  ws
BANEXT  wsh

BANEXT  ad
BANEXT  adp 
BANEXT  crt 
BANEXT  ins 
BANEXT  mdb 
BANEXT  mde 
BANEXT  msc 
BANEXT  msp 
BANEXT  sct 
BANEXT  shb 
BANEXT  vb
BANEXT  wsc 
BANEXT  wsf 
BANEXT  cpl 
BANEXT  shs 
BANEXT  vsd 
BANEXT  vst
BANEXT  vss 
BANEXT  vsw

This has been discussed in the list a while back and there are links on
Microsoft web site that explains most of these..

Regards,
Kami

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Killion
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Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

What is the best way to exclude these in your opinion???  Can Declude do it,
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Chad

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RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

2003-10-02 Thread Kami Razvan
 
If you look at the manual site you will the email called:  Bannotify.eml

That is what is sent when a banned extension is sent.  I will send you a
copy off list of what we have.

Regards,
Kami




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Killion
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 5:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

Ok thanks, but what does a user who sends this type of ext get from our
server?  Is there some sort of eml file I need to add?

Chad

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kami Razvan
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

 
Chad:

This is what we have in our virus.cfg file.  No regrets and no apologies for
blocking them.  We think of this as a fact of life... 

BANEXT  asp
BANEXT  bas
BANEXT  bat
BANEXT  CEO
BANEXT  chm
BANEXT  cmd
BANEXT  com
BANEXT  exe
BANEXT  hlp
BANEXT  hta
BANEXT  inf
BANEXT  isp
BANEXT  js
BANEXT  jse
BANEXT  lnk
BANEXT  msi
BANEXT  mst
BANEXT  pcd
BANEXT  pif
BANEXT  reg
BANEXT  scr
BANEXT  url
BANEXT  vbe
BANEXT  vbs
BANEXT  ws
BANEXT  wsh

BANEXT  ad
BANEXT  adp 
BANEXT  crt 
BANEXT  ins 
BANEXT  mdb 
BANEXT  mde 
BANEXT  msc 
BANEXT  msp 
BANEXT  sct 
BANEXT  shb 
BANEXT  vb
BANEXT  wsc 
BANEXT  wsf 
BANEXT  cpl 
BANEXT  shs 
BANEXT  vsd 
BANEXT  vst
BANEXT  vss 
BANEXT  vsw

This has been discussed in the list a while back and there are links on
Microsoft web site that explains most of these..

Regards,
Kami

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Killion
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MS Security Patch Emails

What is the best way to exclude these in your opinion???  Can Declude do it,
or Imail?

Chad

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