Re: Cannot post a release announcement to announce@

2017-10-22 Thread Rick Hillegas
Thanks, Craig and Stefan. The problem ended up being a gmail behavior, 
not a Thunderbird behavior. Gmail switches your From address back to 
your gmail address no matter how you try to override it via your email 
tool. I managed to get the message through by sending it from my Comcast 
account and overriding the From address. I have documented this behavior 
at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-15311 and 
https://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/ReleasePublication


Thanks,
-Rick

On 10/21/17 2:21 PM, Craig Russell wrote:

Hi Rick,

The announce moderation email never made it, so the problem is almost 
certainly on the sending side.


You can ssh to minotaur.apache.org <http://minotaur.apache.org> if you 
set up an ssh key. I've not send mail from my login so I can't help 
there, but it might be easier than setting up your mail client.


See if these links help you set it up.

https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/committer_shell_access_to_people

http://linux.die.net/man/1/ssh-add

http://linux.die.net/man/1/ssh-agent

Craig

On Oct 21, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Rick Hillegas <rick.hille...@gmail.com 
<mailto:rick.hille...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Dear announce-owner,

I am forwarding this question to you because I received an unhelpful 
canned response from the announce-help list when I sent it the 
following message.


Thanks in advance for your advice,
-Rick

-

Dear announce-help,

I hope that someone will be able to help me with the following problem:

I am trying to publish a new release of Apache Derby 
(http://db.apache.org/derby/releases/release-10.14.1.0.cgi). I have 
successfully sent the release announcement to our user and developer 
lists. However, I have not been able to send the release announcement 
to the announce@ mailing list. So far, the Infrastructure team has 
not been able to coach me through these problems: 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-15311.


I served as a release manager two years ago. At that time, I was able 
to ssh to an Apache machine and use the command line mail tool in 
order to post the release announcement to announce@. Unfortunately, 
committers can't directly log onto Apache machines today.


I have failed to configure my Thunderbird mail tool to use the Apache 
relay service, per Infrastructure's advice as described here: 
https://reference.apache.org/committer/email#sendingemailfromyourapacheorgemailaddress. 
I don't know why. Maybe the Apache relay service is not a mail 
provider supported by Thunderbird. Maybe Thunderbird requires 
incoming as well as outgoing configuration parameters and the Apache 
instructions only state the outgoing parameters.


I have also failed to configure sendmail on my Mac OSX machine. At 
this point, I am very far afield, very far outside my skill set.


I would appreciate your advice on how to post a release announcement 
to announce@.


Thanks,
-Rick



 Forwarded Message ----
Subject:    Cannot post a release announcement to announce@
Date:   Sat, 21 Oct 2017 08:46:53 -0700
From:   Rick Hillegas <rick.hille...@gmail.com>
To: 	announce-h...@apache.org, derby-dev@db.apache.org 
<derby-dev@db.apache.org>




Dear announce-help,

I hope that someone will be able to help me with the following problem:

I am trying to publish a new release of Apache Derby
(http://db.apache.org/derby/releases/release-10.14.1.0.cgi). I have
successfully sent the release announcement to our user and developer
lists. However, I have not been able to send the release announcement to
the announce@ mailing list. So far, the Infrastructure team has not been
able to coach me through these problems:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-15311.

I served as a release manager two years ago. At that time, I was able to
ssh to an Apache machine and use the command line mail tool in order to
post the release announcement to announce@. Unfortunately, committers
can't directly log onto Apache machines today.

I have failed to configure my Thunderbird mail tool to use the Apache
relay service, per Infrastructure's advice as described here:
https://reference.apache.org/committer/email#sendingemailfromyourapacheorgemailaddress.
I don't know why. Maybe the Apache relay service is not a mail provider
supported by Thunderbird. Maybe Thunderbird requires incoming as well as
outgoing configuration parameters and the Apache instructions only state
the outgoing parameters.

I have also failed to configure sendmail on my Mac OSX machine. At this
point, I am very far afield, very far outside my skill set.

I would appreciate your advice on how to post a release announcement to
announce@.

Thanks,
-Rick



Craig L Russell
Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
c...@apache.org <mailto:c...@apache.org> http://db.apache.org/jdo





Re: Cannot post a release announcement to announce@

2017-10-21 Thread Craig Russell
Hi Rick,

The announce moderation email never made it, so the problem is almost certainly 
on the sending side.

You can ssh to minotaur.apache.org <http://minotaur.apache.org/> if you set up 
an ssh key. I've not send mail from my login so I can't help there, but it 
might be easier than setting up your mail client.

See if these links help you set it up.

https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/committer_shell_access_to_people 
<https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/committer_shell_access_to_people>

http://linux.die.net/man/1/ssh-add <http://linux.die.net/man/1/ssh-add>

http://linux.die.net/man/1/ssh-agent <http://linux.die.net/man/1/ssh-agent>

Craig

> On Oct 21, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Rick Hillegas <rick.hille...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear announce-owner,
> 
> I am forwarding this question to you because I received an unhelpful canned 
> response from the announce-help list when I sent it the following message.
> 
> Thanks in advance for your advice,
> -Rick
> 
> -
> 
> Dear announce-help,
> 
> I hope that someone will be able to help me with the following problem:
> 
> I am trying to publish a new release of Apache Derby 
> (http://db.apache.org/derby/releases/release-10.14.1.0.cgi 
> <http://db.apache.org/derby/releases/release-10.14.1.0.cgi>). I have 
> successfully sent the release announcement to our user and developer lists. 
> However, I have not been able to send the release announcement to the 
> announce@ mailing list. So far, the Infrastructure team has not been able to 
> coach me through these problems: 
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-15311 
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-15311>.
> 
> I served as a release manager two years ago. At that time, I was able to ssh 
> to an Apache machine and use the command line mail tool in order to post the 
> release announcement to announce@. Unfortunately, committers can't directly 
> log onto Apache machines today.
> 
> I have failed to configure my Thunderbird mail tool to use the Apache relay 
> service, per Infrastructure's advice as described here: 
> https://reference.apache.org/committer/email#sendingemailfromyourapacheorgemailaddress
>  
> <https://reference.apache.org/committer/email#sendingemailfromyourapacheorgemailaddress>.
>  I don't know why. Maybe the Apache relay service is not a mail provider 
> supported by Thunderbird. Maybe Thunderbird requires incoming as well as 
> outgoing configuration parameters and the Apache instructions only state the 
> outgoing parameters.
> 
> I have also failed to configure sendmail on my Mac OSX machine. At this 
> point, I am very far afield, very far outside my skill set.
> 
> I would appreciate your advice on how to post a release announcement to 
> announce@.
> 
> Thanks,
> -Rick
> 
> 
> 
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject:  Cannot post a release announcement to announce@
> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2017 08:46:53 -0700
> From: Rick Hillegas <rick.hille...@gmail.com> <mailto:rick.hille...@gmail.com>
> To:   announce-h...@apache.org <mailto:announce-h...@apache.org>, 
> derby-dev@db.apache.org <mailto:derby-dev@db.apache.org> 
> <derby-dev@db.apache.org> <mailto:derby-dev@db.apache.org>
> 
> Dear announce-help,
> 
> I hope that someone will be able to help me with the following problem:
> 
> I am trying to publish a new release of Apache Derby 
> (http://db.apache.org/derby/releases/release-10.14.1.0.cgi 
> <http://db.apache.org/derby/releases/release-10.14.1.0.cgi>). I have 
> successfully sent the release announcement to our user and developer 
> lists. However, I have not been able to send the release announcement to 
> the announce@ mailing list. So far, the Infrastructure team has not been 
> able to coach me through these problems: 
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-15311 
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-15311>.
> 
> I served as a release manager two years ago. At that time, I was able to 
> ssh to an Apache machine and use the command line mail tool in order to 
> post the release announcement to announce@. Unfortunately, committers 
> can't directly log onto Apache machines today.
> 
> I have failed to configure my Thunderbird mail tool to use the Apache 
> relay service, per Infrastructure's advice as described here: 
> https://reference.apache.org/committer/email#sendingemailfromyourapacheorgemailaddress
>  
> <https://reference.apache.org/committer/email#sendingemailfromyourapacheorgemailaddress>.
>  
> I don't know why. Maybe the Apache relay service is not a mail provider 
> supported by Thunderbird. Maybe Thunderbird requires inc

Fwd: Cannot post a release announcement to announce@

2017-10-21 Thread Rick Hillegas

Dear announce-owner,

I am forwarding this question to you because I received an unhelpful 
canned response from the announce-help list when I sent it the following 
message.


Thanks in advance for your advice,
-Rick

-

Dear announce-help,

I hope that someone will be able to help me with the following problem:

I am trying to publish a new release of Apache Derby 
(http://db.apache.org/derby/releases/release-10.14.1.0.cgi). I have 
successfully sent the release announcement to our user and developer 
lists. However, I have not been able to send the release announcement to 
the announce@ mailing list. So far, the Infrastructure team has not been 
able to coach me through these problems: 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-15311.


I served as a release manager two years ago. At that time, I was able to 
ssh to an Apache machine and use the command line mail tool in order to 
post the release announcement to announce@. Unfortunately, committers 
can't directly log onto Apache machines today.


I have failed to configure my Thunderbird mail tool to use the Apache 
relay service, per Infrastructure's advice as described here: 
https://reference.apache.org/committer/email#sendingemailfromyourapacheorgemailaddress. 
I don't know why. Maybe the Apache relay service is not a mail provider 
supported by Thunderbird. Maybe Thunderbird requires incoming as well as 
outgoing configuration parameters and the Apache instructions only state 
the outgoing parameters.


I have also failed to configure sendmail on my Mac OSX machine. At this 
point, I am very far afield, very far outside my skill set.


I would appreciate your advice on how to post a release announcement to 
announce@.


Thanks,
-Rick



 Forwarded Message 
Subject:Cannot post a release announcement to announce@
Date:   Sat, 21 Oct 2017 08:46:53 -0700
From:   Rick Hillegas <rick.hille...@gmail.com>
To: 	announce-h...@apache.org, derby-dev@db.apache.org 
<derby-dev@db.apache.org>




Dear announce-help,

I hope that someone will be able to help me with the following problem:

I am trying to publish a new release of Apache Derby
(http://db.apache.org/derby/releases/release-10.14.1.0.cgi). I have
successfully sent the release announcement to our user and developer
lists. However, I have not been able to send the release announcement to
the announce@ mailing list. So far, the Infrastructure team has not been
able to coach me through these problems:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-15311.

I served as a release manager two years ago. At that time, I was able to
ssh to an Apache machine and use the command line mail tool in order to
post the release announcement to announce@. Unfortunately, committers
can't directly log onto Apache machines today.

I have failed to configure my Thunderbird mail tool to use the Apache
relay service, per Infrastructure's advice as described here:
https://reference.apache.org/committer/email#sendingemailfromyourapacheorgemailaddress.
I don't know why. Maybe the Apache relay service is not a mail provider
supported by Thunderbird. Maybe Thunderbird requires incoming as well as
outgoing configuration parameters and the Apache instructions only state
the outgoing parameters.

I have also failed to configure sendmail on my Mac OSX machine. At this
point, I am very far afield, very far outside my skill set.

I would appreciate your advice on how to post a release announcement to
announce@.

Thanks,
-Rick



Cannot post a release announcement to announce@

2017-10-21 Thread Rick Hillegas

Dear announce-help,

I hope that someone will be able to help me with the following problem:

I am trying to publish a new release of Apache Derby 
(http://db.apache.org/derby/releases/release-10.14.1.0.cgi). I have 
successfully sent the release announcement to our user and developer 
lists. However, I have not been able to send the release announcement to 
the announce@ mailing list. So far, the Infrastructure team has not been 
able to coach me through these problems: 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-15311.


I served as a release manager two years ago. At that time, I was able to 
ssh to an Apache machine and use the command line mail tool in order to 
post the release announcement to announce@. Unfortunately, committers 
can't directly log onto Apache machines today.


I have failed to configure my Thunderbird mail tool to use the Apache 
relay service, per Infrastructure's advice as described here: 
https://reference.apache.org/committer/email#sendingemailfromyourapacheorgemailaddress. 
I don't know why. Maybe the Apache relay service is not a mail provider 
supported by Thunderbird. Maybe Thunderbird requires incoming as well as 
outgoing configuration parameters and the Apache instructions only state 
the outgoing parameters.


I have also failed to configure sendmail on my Mac OSX machine. At this 
point, I am very far afield, very far outside my skill set.


I would appreciate your advice on how to post a release announcement to 
announce@.


Thanks,
-Rick