Extracting dependencies from SQL statements

2010-03-08 Thread Pavel Bortnovskiy
Hello:

is it possible to use Derby's SQL parser to "extract" dependencies from a 
given SQL statement?
(or access the parser once the statement has been parsed).

Whether it's a simple SELECT or a JOIN, UNION or a more complex statement, 
I would like to get a list of tables that this statement would depend on.
Looking for FROM clauses and attempting to do the parsing myself seems 
like a difficult, error prone and impractical way to approach this.

Any suggestions, please?

Thanks,
Pavel.




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Re: Extracting dependencies from SQL statements

2010-03-09 Thread Pavel Bortnovskiy
Thank you, Rick for your expedient response.

Your comments to DERBY-3946 indicate that I need to apply the patch and 
build Derby. Is it possible to avoid? (I am currently using Derby version 
10.5.3.0).

I tried to compile only TreeWalker.java and ASTParser.java while linking 
with Derby's jars, but the build was unsuccessful, as many classes weren't 
found.
Would you be able to advise, please?

Thanks,
Pavel.







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Hi Pavel,

I don't know of an easy way to do this. You could run the statement 
through the Derby parser to get the parsed representation, the Abstract 
Syntax Tree. Then you could write a Visitor to walk the AST, looking for 
the nodes which represent tables. See the following JIRAs for some 
pointers on how to produce and walk the AST: DERBY-3946 and DERBY-791.

Unfortunately, there is no systematic primer on the AST nodes 
themselves. All we have is the javadoc for the package 
org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile.

Hope this helps,
-Rick

Pavel Bortnovskiy wrote:
>
> Hello:
>
> is it possible to use Derby's SQL parser to "extract" dependencies 
> from a given SQL statement?
> (or access the parser once the statement has been parsed).
>
> Whether it's a simple SELECT or a JOIN, UNION or a more complex 
> statement, I would like to get a list of tables that this statement 
> would depend on.
> Looking for FROM clauses and attempting to do the parsing myself seems 
> like a difficult, error prone and impractical way to approach this.
>
> Any suggestions, please?
>
> Thanks,
> Pavel.
>
>
>
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Re: Extracting dependencies from SQL statements

2010-03-09 Thread Pavel Bortnovskiy
I was able to compile both files by disabling SanityManager method 
invocation and replacing ContextId.LANG_CONNECTION with its string 
"LanguageConnectionContext". 
No other changes to ASTParser and TreeWalker have been done, however, when 
running them the following exception is thrown:

Parsing:
select a from t, s where t.a = s.a
Exception in thread "main" java.sql.SQLSyntaxErrorException: Table/View 
'T' does not exist.
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.SQLExceptionFactory40.getSQLException(Unknown 
Source)
at org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.Util.generateCsSQLException(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.TransactionResourceImpl.wrapInSQLException(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.TransactionResourceImpl.handleException(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedConnection.handleException(Unknown Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.ConnectionChild.handleException(Unknown Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement.(Unknown Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement20.(Unknown Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement30.(Unknown Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement40.(Unknown Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.jdbc.Driver40.newEmbedPreparedStatement(Unknown Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedConnection.prepareStatement(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedConnection.prepareStatement(Unknown 
Source)
at TreeWalker.execute(TreeWalker.java:95)
at TreeWalker.main(TreeWalker.java:79)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at 
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
at 
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
at 
com.intellij.rt.execution.application.AppMain.main(AppMain.java:110)






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Hi Pavel,

I don't know of an easy way to do this. You could run the statement 
through the Derby parser to get the parsed representation, the Abstract 
Syntax Tree. Then you could write a Visitor to walk the AST, looking for 
the nodes which represent tables. See the following JIRAs for some 
pointers on how to produce and walk the AST: DERBY-3946 and DERBY-791.

Unfortunately, there is no systematic primer on the AST nodes 
themselves. All we have is the javadoc for the package 
org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile.

Hope this helps,
-Rick

Pavel Bortnovskiy wrote:
>
> Hello:
>
> is it possible to use Derby's SQL parser to "extract" dependencies 
> from a given SQL statement?
> (or access the parser once the statement has been parsed).
>
> Whether it's a simple SELECT or a JOIN, UNION or a more complex 
> statement, I would like to get a list of tables that this statement 
> would depend on.
> Looking for FROM clauses and attempting to do the parsing myself seems 
> like a difficult, error prone and impractical way to approach this.
>
> Any suggestions, please?
>
> Thanks,
> Pavel.
>
>
>
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Re: Extracting dependencies from SQL statements

2010-03-09 Thread Rick Hillegas

Hi Pavel,

I don't know of an easy way to do this. You could run the statement 
through the Derby parser to get the parsed representation, the Abstract 
Syntax Tree. Then you could write a Visitor to walk the AST, looking for 
the nodes which represent tables. See the following JIRAs for some 
pointers on how to produce and walk the AST: DERBY-3946 and DERBY-791.


Unfortunately, there is no systematic primer on the AST nodes 
themselves. All we have is the javadoc for the package 
org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile.


Hope this helps,
-Rick

Pavel Bortnovskiy wrote:


Hello:

is it possible to use Derby's SQL parser to "extract" dependencies 
from a given SQL statement?

(or access the parser once the statement has been parsed).

Whether it's a simple SELECT or a JOIN, UNION or a more complex 
statement, I would like to get a list of tables that this statement 
would depend on.
Looking for FROM clauses and attempting to do the parsing myself seems 
like a difficult, error prone and impractical way to approach this.


Any suggestions, please?

Thanks,
Pavel.



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Re: Extracting dependencies from SQL statements

2010-03-09 Thread Rick Hillegas

Hi Pavel,

Some comments inline...

Pavel Bortnovskiy wrote:


Thank you, Rick for your expedient response.

Your comments to DERBY-3946 indicate that I need to apply the patch 
and build Derby. Is it possible to avoid? (I am currently using Derby 
version 10.5.3.0).
The initial comment on the issue was confusing. This puzzled someone 
else last month. I have edited that first comment to make it clear that 
the patch was committed a long time ago and was built into both 10.5.1 
and 10.5.3. So there is no need to apply the patch.


I tried to compile only TreeWalker.java and ASTParser.java while 
linking with Derby's jars, but the build was unsuccessful, as many 
classes weren't found.

Would you be able to advise, please?
I am able to compile ASTParser against both the production and debug 
jars. Note that ASTParser must be run against the debug jars. I have 
added this warning to the initial comment on the JIRA.


Could you include the compiler errors you are seeing? That may help us 
diagnose this problem.


Thanks,
-Rick


Thanks,
Pavel.






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Hi Pavel,

I don't know of an easy way to do this. You could run the statement
through the Derby parser to get the parsed representation, the Abstract
Syntax Tree. Then you could write a Visitor to walk the AST, looking for
the nodes which represent tables. See the following JIRAs for some
pointers on how to produce and walk the AST: DERBY-3946 and DERBY-791.

Unfortunately, there is no systematic primer on the AST nodes
themselves. All we have is the javadoc for the package
org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile.

Hope this helps,
-Rick

Pavel Bortnovskiy wrote:
>
> Hello:
>
> is it possible to use Derby's SQL parser to "extract" dependencies
> from a given SQL statement?
> (or access the parser once the statement has been parsed).
>
> Whether it's a simple SELECT or a JOIN, UNION or a more complex
> statement, I would like to get a list of tables that this statement
> would depend on.
> Looking for FROM clauses and attempting to do the parsing myself seems
> like a difficult, error prone and impractical way to approach this.
>
> Any suggestions, please?
>
> Thanks,
> Pavel.
>
>
>
> Jefferies archives and monitors outgoing and incoming e-mail. The
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Re: Extracting dependencies from SQL statements

2010-03-09 Thread Rick Hillegas

Hi Pavel,

These programs should be run using the Derby debug jars. I have edited 
the introductory comment to try to make this clear. The debug logic must 
be compiled into Derby in order for compilation to stop after parsing. 
If you need a solution which runs against the production jars, take a 
look at the related issue DERBY-791.


Hope this helps,
-Rick

Pavel Bortnovskiy wrote:


I was able to compile both files by disabling SanityManager method 
invocation and replacing ContextId.LANG_CONNECTION with its string 
"LanguageConnectionContext".
No other changes to ASTParser and TreeWalker have been done, however, 
when running them the following exception is thrown:


Parsing:
select a from t, s where t.a = s.a
Exception in thread "main" java.sql.SQLSyntaxErrorException: 
Table/View 'T' does not exist.
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.SQLExceptionFactory40.getSQLException(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.Util.generateCsSQLException(Unknown Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.TransactionResourceImpl.wrapInSQLException(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.TransactionResourceImpl.handleException(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedConnection.handleException(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.ConnectionChild.handleException(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement.(Unknown Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement20.(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement30.(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement40.(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.jdbc.Driver40.newEmbedPreparedStatement(Unknown Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedConnection.prepareStatement(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedConnection.prepareStatement(Unknown 
Source)

at TreeWalker.execute(TreeWalker.java:95)
at TreeWalker.main(TreeWalker.java:79)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at 
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39) 

at 
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) 


at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
at 
com.intellij.rt.execution.application.AppMain.main(AppMain.java:110)






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Hi Pavel,

I don't know of an easy way to do this. You could run the statement
through the Derby parser to get the parsed representation, the Abstract
Syntax Tree. Then you could write a Visitor to walk the AST, looking for
the nodes which represent tables. See the following JIRAs for some
pointers on how to produce and walk the AST: DERBY-3946 and DERBY-791.

Unfortunately, there is no systematic primer on the AST nodes
themselves. All we have is the javadoc for the package
org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile.

Hope this helps,
-Rick

Pavel Bortnovskiy wrote:
>
> Hello:
>
> is it possible to use Derby's SQL parser to "extract" dependencies
> from a given SQL statement?
> (or access the parser once the statement has been parsed).
>
> Whether it's a simple SELECT or a JOIN, UNION or a more complex
> statement, I would like to get a list of tables that this statement
> would depend on.
> Looking for FROM clauses and attempting to do the parsing myself seems
> like a difficult, error prone and impractical way to approach this.
>
> Any suggestions, please?
>
> Thanks,
> Pavel.
>
>
>
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Re: Extracting dependencies from SQL statements

2010-03-09 Thread Pavel Bortnovskiy
Once again, Rick, thanks for your prompt response. To answer your 
questions:

(1) The compilation errors initially had to do with the SanityManager and 
ContextId not available in prod jars.

(2) Since I am trying to get this code to work in our application, using 
debug jars may not be desirable.
More over, our app is using Derby's in-memory tables as well as its 
NetworkServerController.
So, this parsing/tree-walking code should not conflict with the other two 
uses.

In the comments for DERBY-791, I did notice "We should provide some 
mechanism for printing these trees in production (non-debug) servers".
So, I ran XmlTreeWalker linking only to 
db-derby-10.5.3.0-bin/lib/derby.jar, but got the same exception:



select a from t, s where t.a = s.a
Exception in thread "main" java.sql.SQLSyntaxErrorException: Table/View 
'T' does not exist.
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.SQLExceptionFactory40.getSQLException(Unknown 
Source)
at org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.Util.generateCsSQLException(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.TransactionResourceImpl.wrapInSQLException(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.TransactionResourceImpl.handleException(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedConnection.handleException(Unknown Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.ConnectionChild.handleException(Unknown Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement.(Unknown Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement20.(Unknown Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement30.(Unknown Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement40.(Unknown Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.jdbc.Driver40.newEmbedPreparedStatement(Unknown Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedConnection.prepareStatement(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedConnection.prepareStatement(Unknown 
Source)
at XmlTreeWalker.execute(XmlTreeWalker.java:130)
at XmlTreeWalker.main(XmlTreeWalker.java:111)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at 
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
at 
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
at 
com.intellij.rt.execution.application.AppMain.main(AppMain.java:110)
Caused by: java.sql.SQLException: Table/View 'T' does not exist.
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.SQLExceptionFactory.getSQLException(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.SQLExceptionFactory40.wrapArgsForTransportAcrossDRDA(Unknown
 
Source)
... 20 more
Caused by: ERROR 42X05: Table/View 'T' does not exist.
at 
org.apache.derby.iapi.error.StandardException.newException(Unknown Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile.FromBaseTable.bindTableDescriptor(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile.FromBaseTable.bindNonVTITables(Unknown 
Source)
at org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile.FromList.bindTables(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile.SelectNode.bindNonVTITables(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile.DMLStatementNode.bindTables(Unknown 
Source)
at org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile.DMLStatementNode.bind(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile.CursorNode.bindStatement(Unknown Source)
at org.apache.derby.impl.sql.GenericStatement.prepMinion(Unknown 
Source)
at org.apache.derby.impl.sql.GenericStatement.prepare(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.sql.conn.GenericLanguageConnectionContext.prepareInternalStatement(Unknown
 
Source)
... 14 more

Regards,
Pavel.






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Hi Pavel,

These programs should be run using the Derby debug jars. I have edited 
the introductory comment to try to make this clear. The debug logic must 
be compiled into Derby in order for compilation to stop after parsing. 
If you need a solution which runs against the production jars, take a 
look at the related issue DERBY-791.

Hope this helps,
-Rick

Pavel Bortnovskiy wrote:
>
> I was able to compile both files by disabling SanityManager method 
> invocation and replacing ContextId.LANG_CONNECTION with its string 
> "LanguageConnectionContext".
> No other changes to ASTParser and TreeWalker have been done, however, 
> when running them the following exception is thrown:
>
> Parsing:
> select a from t, s where t.a = s.a
> Exception in thread "main" java.sql.SQLSyntaxErrorException: 
> T

Re: Extracting dependencies from SQL statements

2010-03-09 Thread Rick Hillegas

Hi Pavel,

You are right, the XmlTreeWalker class also tries to stop the compiler 
after parsing. This can only be done with a debug engine. The error you 
are seeing comes from the bind() phase of compilation. Derby is 
complaining that the query doesn't make sense: the objects it mentions 
don't exist.


There's another issue linked from the XmlTreeWalker issue. Take a look 
at DERBY-4415. This is a slightly more involved solution but may get you 
closer. This solution assumes that you are trying to examine the various 
phases of the AST for a query against real objects in your database. 
This should work with the production jars.


Hope this is more useful,
-Rick

Pavel Bortnovskiy wrote:


Once again, Rick, thanks for your prompt response. To answer your 
questions:


(1) The compilation errors initially had to do with the SanityManager 
and ContextId not available in prod jars.


(2) Since I am trying to get this code to work in our application, 
using debug jars may not be desirable.
More over, our app is using Derby's in-memory tables as well as its 
NetworkServerController.
So, this parsing/tree-walking code should not conflict with the other 
two uses.


In the comments for DERBY-791, I did notice "We should provide some 
mechanism for printing these trees in production (non-debug) servers".
So, I ran XmlTreeWalker linking only to 
db-derby-10.5.3.0-bin/lib/derby.jar, but got the same exception:




select a from t, s where t.a = s.a
Exception in thread "main" java.sql.SQLSyntaxErrorException: 
Table/View 'T' does not exist.
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.SQLExceptionFactory40.getSQLException(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.Util.generateCsSQLException(Unknown Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.TransactionResourceImpl.wrapInSQLException(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.TransactionResourceImpl.handleException(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedConnection.handleException(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.ConnectionChild.handleException(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement.(Unknown Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement20.(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement30.(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement40.(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.jdbc.Driver40.newEmbedPreparedStatement(Unknown Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedConnection.prepareStatement(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedConnection.prepareStatement(Unknown 
Source)

at XmlTreeWalker.execute(XmlTreeWalker.java:130)
at XmlTreeWalker.main(XmlTreeWalker.java:111)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at 
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39) 

at 
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) 


at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
at 
com.intellij.rt.execution.application.AppMain.main(AppMain.java:110)

Caused by: java.sql.SQLException: Table/View 'T' does not exist.
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.SQLExceptionFactory.getSQLException(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.SQLExceptionFactory40.wrapArgsForTransportAcrossDRDA(Unknown 
Source)

... 20 more
Caused by: ERROR 42X05: Table/View 'T' does not exist.
at 
org.apache.derby.iapi.error.StandardException.newException(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile.FromBaseTable.bindTableDescriptor(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile.FromBaseTable.bindNonVTITables(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile.FromList.bindTables(Unknown Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile.SelectNode.bindNonVTITables(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile.DMLStatementNode.bindTables(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile.DMLStatementNode.bind(Unknown Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile.CursorNode.bindStatement(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.sql.GenericStatement.prepMinion(Unknown Source)
at org.apache.derby.impl.sql.GenericStatement.prepare(Unknown 
Source)
at 
org.apache.derby.impl.sql.conn.GenericLanguageConnectionContext.prepareInternalStatement(Unknown 
Source)

... 14 more

Regards,
Pavel.





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03/09/2010 11:22 AM
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Hi Pavel,

These programs should be run using the Derby debug jars. I have ed

Re: Extracting dependencies from SQL statements

2010-03-09 Thread Pavel Bortnovskiy
Rick (while I am reading  and trying DERBY-4415), that seems like there is 
no other way to use prod jars and yet stop the parser from binding?

Would it be at all possible to use the javacc compiler with sqlgrammar.jj 
(that are probably bundled in derby.jar) to do the work?

Pavel.






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03/09/2010 01:13 PM
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Hi Pavel,

You are right, the XmlTreeWalker class also tries to stop the compiler 
after parsing. This can only be done with a debug engine. The error you 
are seeing comes from the bind() phase of compilation. Derby is 
complaining that the query doesn't make sense: the objects it mentions 
don't exist.

There's another issue linked from the XmlTreeWalker issue. Take a look 
at DERBY-4415. This is a slightly more involved solution but may get you 
closer. This solution assumes that you are trying to examine the various 
phases of the AST for a query against real objects in your database. 
This should work with the production jars.

Hope this is more useful,
-Rick

Pavel Bortnovskiy wrote:
>
> Once again, Rick, thanks for your prompt response. To answer your 
> questions:
>
> (1) The compilation errors initially had to do with the SanityManager 
> and ContextId not available in prod jars.
>
> (2) Since I am trying to get this code to work in our application, 
> using debug jars may not be desirable.
> More over, our app is using Derby's in-memory tables as well as its 
> NetworkServerController.
> So, this parsing/tree-walking code should not conflict with the other 
> two uses.
>
> In the comments for DERBY-791, I did notice "We should provide some 
> mechanism for printing these trees in production (non-debug) servers".
> So, I ran XmlTreeWalker linking only to 
> db-derby-10.5.3.0-bin/lib/derby.jar, but got the same exception:
>
> 
> 
> select a from t, s where t.a = s.a
> Exception in thread "main" java.sql.SQLSyntaxErrorException: 
> Table/View 'T' does not exist.
> at 
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.SQLExceptionFactory40.getSQLException(Unknown 

> Source)
> at 
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.Util.generateCsSQLException(Unknown Source)
> at 
> 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.TransactionResourceImpl.wrapInSQLException(Unknown 

> Source)
> at 
> 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.TransactionResourceImpl.handleException(Unknown 

> Source)
> at 
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedConnection.handleException(Unknown 
> Source)
> at 
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.ConnectionChild.handleException(Unknown 
> Source)
> at 
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement.(Unknown Source)
> at 
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement20.(Unknown 
> Source)
> at 
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement30.(Unknown 
> Source)
> at 
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement40.(Unknown 
> Source)
> at 
> org.apache.derby.jdbc.Driver40.newEmbedPreparedStatement(Unknown Source)
> at 
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedConnection.prepareStatement(Unknown 
> Source)
> at 
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedConnection.prepareStatement(Unknown 
> Source)
> at XmlTreeWalker.execute(XmlTreeWalker.java:130)
> at XmlTreeWalker.main(XmlTreeWalker.java:111)
> at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
> at 
> 
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39) 

>
> at 
> 
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
 

>
> at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
> at 
> com.intellij.rt.execution.application.AppMain.main(AppMain.java:110)
> Caused by: java.sql.SQLException: Table/View 'T' does not exist.
> at 
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.SQLExceptionFactory.getSQLException(Unknown 
> Source)
> at 
> 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.SQLExceptionFactory40.wrapArgsForTransportAcrossDRDA(Unknown
 

> Source)
> ... 20 more
> Caused by: ERROR 42X05: Table/View 'T' does not exist.
> at 
> org.apache.derby.iapi.error.StandardException.newException(Unknown 
> Source)
> at 
> 
org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile.FromBaseTable.bindTableDescriptor(Unknown 

> Source)
> at 
> org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile.FromBaseTable.bindNonVTITables(Unknown 

> Source)
> at 
> org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile.FromList.bindTables(Unknown Source)
> at 
> org.apache

Re: Extracting dependencies from SQL statements

2010-03-09 Thread Pavel Bortnovskiy
Rick:

ASTVisitor (used in public class XmlASTPrinter implements ASTVisitor) is 
nowhere to be found: import org.apache.derby.iapi.sql.compile.ASTVisitor;

It is neither in the src tree nor in the JIRA DERBY-4415. Can you please 
advise?

Thanks,
Pavel.






Rick Hillegas  
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03/09/2010 01:13 PM
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Hi Pavel,

You are right, the XmlTreeWalker class also tries to stop the compiler 
after parsing. This can only be done with a debug engine. The error you 
are seeing comes from the bind() phase of compilation. Derby is 
complaining that the query doesn't make sense: the objects it mentions 
don't exist.

There's another issue linked from the XmlTreeWalker issue. Take a look 
at DERBY-4415. This is a slightly more involved solution but may get you 
closer. This solution assumes that you are trying to examine the various 
phases of the AST for a query against real objects in your database. 
This should work with the production jars.

Hope this is more useful,
-Rick

Pavel Bortnovskiy wrote:
>
> Once again, Rick, thanks for your prompt response. To answer your 
> questions:
>
> (1) The compilation errors initially had to do with the SanityManager 
> and ContextId not available in prod jars.
>
> (2) Since I am trying to get this code to work in our application, 
> using debug jars may not be desirable.
> More over, our app is using Derby's in-memory tables as well as its 
> NetworkServerController.
> So, this parsing/tree-walking code should not conflict with the other 
> two uses.
>
> In the comments for DERBY-791, I did notice "We should provide some 
> mechanism for printing these trees in production (non-debug) servers".
> So, I ran XmlTreeWalker linking only to 
> db-derby-10.5.3.0-bin/lib/derby.jar, but got the same exception:
>
> 
> 
> select a from t, s where t.a = s.a
> Exception in thread "main" java.sql.SQLSyntaxErrorException: 
> Table/View 'T' does not exist.
> at 
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.SQLExceptionFactory40.getSQLException(Unknown 

> Source)
> at 
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.Util.generateCsSQLException(Unknown Source)
> at 
> 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.TransactionResourceImpl.wrapInSQLException(Unknown 

> Source)
> at 
> 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.TransactionResourceImpl.handleException(Unknown 

> Source)
> at 
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedConnection.handleException(Unknown 
> Source)
> at 
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.ConnectionChild.handleException(Unknown 
> Source)
> at 
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement.(Unknown Source)
> at 
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement20.(Unknown 
> Source)
> at 
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement30.(Unknown 
> Source)
> at 
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement40.(Unknown 
> Source)
> at 
> org.apache.derby.jdbc.Driver40.newEmbedPreparedStatement(Unknown Source)
> at 
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedConnection.prepareStatement(Unknown 
> Source)
> at 
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedConnection.prepareStatement(Unknown 
> Source)
> at XmlTreeWalker.execute(XmlTreeWalker.java:130)
> at XmlTreeWalker.main(XmlTreeWalker.java:111)
> at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
> at 
> 
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39) 

>
> at 
> 
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
 

>
> at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
> at 
> com.intellij.rt.execution.application.AppMain.main(AppMain.java:110)
> Caused by: java.sql.SQLException: Table/View 'T' does not exist.
> at 
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.SQLExceptionFactory.getSQLException(Unknown 
> Source)
> at 
> 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.SQLExceptionFactory40.wrapArgsForTransportAcrossDRDA(Unknown
 

> Source)
> ... 20 more
> Caused by: ERROR 42X05: Table/View 'T' does not exist.
> at 
> org.apache.derby.iapi.error.StandardException.newException(Unknown 
> Source)
> at 
> 
org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile.FromBaseTable.bindTableDescriptor(Unknown 

> Source)
> at 
> org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile.FromBaseTable.bindNonVTITables(Unknown 

> Source)
> at 
> org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile.FromList.bindTables(Unknown Source)
> at 
> org.apache

Re: Extracting dependencies from SQL statements

2010-03-09 Thread Rick Hillegas

Hi Pavel,

This approach is only possible in the development trunk right now. It 
will turn up in 10.6. To experiment with this approach, you will need to 
set up a subversion client and build the development trunk.


Hope this helps,
-Rick

Pavel Bortnovskiy wrote:


Rick:

ASTVisitor (used in public class XmlASTPrinter implements ASTVisitor) 
is nowhere to be found: import 
org.apache.derby.iapi.sql.compile.ASTVisitor;


It is neither in the src tree nor in the JIRA DERBY-4415. Can you 
please advise?


Thanks,
Pavel.





*Rick Hillegas *
Sent by: richard.hille...@sun.com

03/09/2010 01:13 PM
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Subject
    Re: Extracting dependencies from SQL statements









Hi Pavel,

You are right, the XmlTreeWalker class also tries to stop the compiler
after parsing. This can only be done with a debug engine. The error you
are seeing comes from the bind() phase of compilation. Derby is
complaining that the query doesn't make sense: the objects it mentions
don't exist.

There's another issue linked from the XmlTreeWalker issue. Take a look
at DERBY-4415. This is a slightly more involved solution but may get you
closer. This solution assumes that you are trying to examine the various
phases of the AST for a query against real objects in your database.
This should work with the production jars.

Hope this is more useful,
-Rick

Pavel Bortnovskiy wrote:
>
> Once again, Rick, thanks for your prompt response. To answer your
> questions:
>
> (1) The compilation errors initially had to do with the SanityManager
> and ContextId not available in prod jars.
>
> (2) Since I am trying to get this code to work in our application,
> using debug jars may not be desirable.
> More over, our app is using Derby's in-memory tables as well as its
> NetworkServerController.
> So, this parsing/tree-walking code should not conflict with the other
> two uses.
>
> In the comments for DERBY-791, I did notice "We should provide some
> mechanism for printing these trees in production (non-debug) servers".
> So, I ran XmlTreeWalker linking only to
> db-derby-10.5.3.0-bin/lib/derby.jar, but got the same exception:
>
> 
> 
> select a from t, s where t.a = s.a
> Exception in thread "main" java.sql.SQLSyntaxErrorException:
> Table/View 'T' does not exist.
> at
> 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.SQLExceptionFactory40.getSQLException(Unknown

> Source)
> at
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.Util.generateCsSQLException(Unknown Source)
> at
> 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.TransactionResourceImpl.wrapInSQLException(Unknown 


> Source)
> at
> 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.TransactionResourceImpl.handleException(Unknown 


> Source)
> at
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedConnection.handleException(Unknown
> Source)
> at
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.ConnectionChild.handleException(Unknown
> Source)
> at
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement.(Unknown Source)
> at
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement20.(Unknown
> Source)
> at
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement30.(Unknown
> Source)
> at
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement40.(Unknown
> Source)
> at
> org.apache.derby.jdbc.Driver40.newEmbedPreparedStatement(Unknown Source)
> at
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedConnection.prepareStatement(Unknown
> Source)
> at
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedConnection.prepareStatement(Unknown
> Source)
> at XmlTreeWalker.execute(XmlTreeWalker.java:130)
> at XmlTreeWalker.main(XmlTreeWalker.java:111)
> at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
> at
> 
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39) 


>
> at
> 
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) 


>
> at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
> at
> com.intellij.rt.execution.application.AppMain.main(AppMain.java:110)
> Caused by: java.sql.SQLException: Table/View 'T' does not exist.
> at
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.SQLExceptionFactory.getSQLException(Unknown
> Source)
> at
> 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.SQLExceptionFactory40.wrapArgsForTransportAcrossDRDA(Unknown 


> Source)
> ... 20 more
> Caused by: ERROR 42X05: Table/View 'T' does not exist.
> at
> org.apache.derby.iapi.error.StandardException.newException(Unknown
> Source)
> at
> 
org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile.FromBaseT

Re: Extracting dependencies from SQL statements

2010-03-09 Thread Rick Hillegas

Hi Pavel,

Some comments inline...

Pavel Bortnovskiy wrote:


Rick (while I am reading  and trying DERBY-4415), that seems like 
there is no other way to use prod jars and yet stop the parser from 
binding?


It looks to me as though the shortcircuiting logic is guarded by a check 
for whether the engine is the debug version.


Would it be at all possible to use the javacc compiler with 
sqlgrammar.jj (that are probably bundled in derby.jar) to do the work?
I think you will discover that the grammar relies on a fair amount of 
session context supplied by the rest of the Derby SQL interpreter. I 
think you will be frustrated very quickly if you try this approach.


Hope this helps,
-Rick


Pavel.





*Rick Hillegas *
Sent by: richard.hille...@sun.com

03/09/2010 01:13 PM
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Subject
    Re: Extracting dependencies from SQL statements









Hi Pavel,

You are right, the XmlTreeWalker class also tries to stop the compiler
after parsing. This can only be done with a debug engine. The error you
are seeing comes from the bind() phase of compilation. Derby is
complaining that the query doesn't make sense: the objects it mentions
don't exist.

There's another issue linked from the XmlTreeWalker issue. Take a look
at DERBY-4415. This is a slightly more involved solution but may get you
closer. This solution assumes that you are trying to examine the various
phases of the AST for a query against real objects in your database.
This should work with the production jars.

Hope this is more useful,
-Rick

Pavel Bortnovskiy wrote:
>
> Once again, Rick, thanks for your prompt response. To answer your
> questions:
>
> (1) The compilation errors initially had to do with the SanityManager
> and ContextId not available in prod jars.
>
> (2) Since I am trying to get this code to work in our application,
> using debug jars may not be desirable.
> More over, our app is using Derby's in-memory tables as well as its
> NetworkServerController.
> So, this parsing/tree-walking code should not conflict with the other
> two uses.
>
> In the comments for DERBY-791, I did notice "We should provide some
> mechanism for printing these trees in production (non-debug) servers".
> So, I ran XmlTreeWalker linking only to
> db-derby-10.5.3.0-bin/lib/derby.jar, but got the same exception:
>
> 
> 
> select a from t, s where t.a = s.a
> Exception in thread "main" java.sql.SQLSyntaxErrorException:
> Table/View 'T' does not exist.
> at
> 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.SQLExceptionFactory40.getSQLException(Unknown

> Source)
> at
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.Util.generateCsSQLException(Unknown Source)
> at
> 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.TransactionResourceImpl.wrapInSQLException(Unknown 


> Source)
> at
> 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.TransactionResourceImpl.handleException(Unknown 


> Source)
> at
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedConnection.handleException(Unknown
> Source)
> at
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.ConnectionChild.handleException(Unknown
> Source)
> at
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement.(Unknown Source)
> at
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement20.(Unknown
> Source)
> at
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement30.(Unknown
> Source)
> at
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement40.(Unknown
> Source)
> at
> org.apache.derby.jdbc.Driver40.newEmbedPreparedStatement(Unknown Source)
> at
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedConnection.prepareStatement(Unknown
> Source)
> at
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedConnection.prepareStatement(Unknown
> Source)
> at XmlTreeWalker.execute(XmlTreeWalker.java:130)
> at XmlTreeWalker.main(XmlTreeWalker.java:111)
> at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
> at
> 
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39) 


>
> at
> 
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) 


>
> at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
> at
> com.intellij.rt.execution.application.AppMain.main(AppMain.java:110)
> Caused by: java.sql.SQLException: Table/View 'T' does not exist.
> at
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.SQLExceptionFactory.getSQLException(Unknown
> Source)
> at
> 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.SQLExceptionFactory40.wrapArgsForTransportAcrossDRDA(Unknown 


> Source)
> ... 20 more
> Caused by: ERROR 42X05: Table/View 'T' does not exist.
> at
> org.apache.derby.iapi

Re: Extracting dependencies from SQL statements

2010-03-09 Thread Pavel Bortnovskiy
Rick: 

your second point grossly understimated the amount of time it took me to 
get frustrated... it was not quick - it was instanteneous - as soon as I 
opened sqlgrammar.jj  ;-D

Last question, then, on the subject. Is there any way to easily simplify 
sqlgrammar.jj, so that it frees itself of all the derby dependencies and 
so that
javacc'ed code can just take a string and give me some kind of lexical 
tree?

Alternatively, javacc project has various .jj files in its repository, two 
of which are PL/SQL-based (there is one for Oracle 9i).
Perhaps using those .jj files may work for my purposes?.. Your thoughts 
would be appreciated.

Thank you for your time and attention.

Pavel.






Rick Hillegas  
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03/09/2010 02:45 PM
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Hi Pavel,

Some comments inline...

Pavel Bortnovskiy wrote:
>
> Rick (while I am reading  and trying DERBY-4415), that seems like 
> there is no other way to use prod jars and yet stop the parser from 
> binding?

It looks to me as though the shortcircuiting logic is guarded by a check 
for whether the engine is the debug version.
>
> Would it be at all possible to use the javacc compiler with 
> sqlgrammar.jj (that are probably bundled in derby.jar) to do the work?
I think you will discover that the grammar relies on a fair amount of 
session context supplied by the rest of the Derby SQL interpreter. I 
think you will be frustrated very quickly if you try this approach.

Hope this helps,
-Rick
>
> Pavel.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Rick Hillegas *
> Sent by: richard.hille...@sun.com
>
> 03/09/2010 01:13 PM
> Please respond to
> "Derby Discussion" 
>
>
> 
> To
>        Derby Discussion 
> cc
> 
> Subject
>Re: Extracting dependencies from SQL statements
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Pavel,
>
> You are right, the XmlTreeWalker class also tries to stop the compiler
> after parsing. This can only be done with a debug engine. The error you
> are seeing comes from the bind() phase of compilation. Derby is
> complaining that the query doesn't make sense: the objects it mentions
> don't exist.
>
> There's another issue linked from the XmlTreeWalker issue. Take a look
> at DERBY-4415. This is a slightly more involved solution but may get you
> closer. This solution assumes that you are trying to examine the various
> phases of the AST for a query against real objects in your database.
> This should work with the production jars.
>
> Hope this is more useful,
> -Rick
>
> Pavel Bortnovskiy wrote:
> >
> > Once again, Rick, thanks for your prompt response. To answer your
> > questions:
> >
> > (1) The compilation errors initially had to do with the SanityManager
> > and ContextId not available in prod jars.
> >
> > (2) Since I am trying to get this code to work in our application,
> > using debug jars may not be desirable.
> > More over, our app is using Derby's in-memory tables as well as its
> > NetworkServerController.
> > So, this parsing/tree-walking code should not conflict with the other
> > two uses.
> >
> > In the comments for DERBY-791, I did notice "We should provide some
> > mechanism for printing these trees in production (non-debug) servers".
> > So, I ran XmlTreeWalker linking only to
> > db-derby-10.5.3.0-bin/lib/derby.jar, but got the same exception:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > select a from t, s where t.a = s.a
> > Exception in thread "main" java.sql.SQLSyntaxErrorException:
> > Table/View 'T' does not exist.
> > at
> > 
> org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.SQLExceptionFactory40.getSQLException(Unknown
> > Source)
> > at
> > org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.Util.generateCsSQLException(Unknown Source)
> > at
> > 
> 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.TransactionResourceImpl.wrapInSQLException(Unknown 

>
> > Source)
> > at
> > 
> 
org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.TransactionResourceImpl.handleException(Unknown 

>
> > Source)
> > at
> > org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedConnection.handleException(Unknown
> > Source)
> > at
> > org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.ConnectionChild.handleException(Unknown
> > Source)
> > at
> > org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement.(Unknown 
Source)
> > at
> > org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedStatement20.(Unknown
> > Source)
> > at
> > org.apache.derby.impl.jdbc.EmbedPreparedSta

Re: Extracting dependencies from SQL statements

2010-03-09 Thread Rick Hillegas

Hi Pavel,

Some comments inline...

Pavel Bortnovskiy wrote:


Rick:

your second point grossly understimated the amount of time it took me 
to get frustrated... it was not quick - it was instanteneous - as soon 
as I opened sqlgrammar.jj  ;-D


Last question, then, on the subject. Is there any way to easily 
simplify sqlgrammar.jj, so that it frees itself of all the derby 
dependencies and so that
javacc'ed code can just take a string and give me some kind of lexical 
tree?
This sounds like a frustrating approach too. If you are willing to hack 
the Derby code and create your owned forked version, then I would 
recommend going into GenericStatement.java and hacking the prepMinion() 
method so that you can control the short-circuiting yourself. Look for 
the string StopAfterParsing.


Alternatively, javacc project has various .jj files in its repository, 
two of which are PL/SQL-based (there is one for Oracle 9i).
Perhaps using those .jj files may work for my purposes?.. Your 
thoughts would be appreciated.
I have never looked at those grammars so I can't advise you here. This 
approach also will be peppered with frustrations if what you want to 
achieve is a Derby-powered app which performs some extra dependency 
tracking. Since the javacc-supplied grammars aren't the Derby grammar, 
statements which parse in one grammar may not parse in the other.


So let's step back for a moment. What do you need to achieve here:

o Are you writing a Derby-powered app or just trying to use the Derby 
parser against statements which actually run in some other database?


o If this is a Derby-powered app, do you need to track the dependencies 
before the statement is executed?


Thanks,
-Rick


Thank you for your time and attention.

Pavel.





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Hi Pavel,

Some comments inline...

Pavel Bortnovskiy wrote:
>
> Rick (while I am reading  and trying DERBY-4415), that seems like
> there is no other way to use prod jars and yet stop the parser from
> binding?

It looks to me as though the shortcircuiting logic is guarded by a check
for whether the engine is the debug version.
>
> Would it be at all possible to use the javacc compiler with
> sqlgrammar.jj (that are probably bundled in derby.jar) to do the work?
I think you will discover that the grammar relies on a fair amount of
session context supplied by the rest of the Derby SQL interpreter. I
think you will be frustrated very quickly if you try this approach.

Hope this helps,
-Rick
>
> Pavel.
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> Hi Pavel,
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> You are right, the XmlTreeWalker class also tries to stop the compiler
> after parsing. This can only be done with a debug engine. The error you
> are seeing comes from the bind() phase of compilation. Derby is
> complaining that the query doesn't make sense: the objects it mentions
> don't exist.
>
> There's another issue linked from the XmlTreeWalker issue. Take a look
> at DERBY-4415. This is a slightly more involved solution but may get you
> closer. This solution assumes that you are trying to examine the various
> phases of the AST for a query against real objects in your database.
> This should work with the production jars.
>
> Hope this is more useful,
> -Rick
>
> Pavel Bortnovskiy wrote:
> >
> > Once again, Rick, thanks for your prompt response. To answer your
> > questions:
> >
> > (1) The compilation errors initially had to do with the SanityManager
> > and ContextId not available in prod jars.
> >
> > (2) Since I am trying to get this code to work in our application,
> > using debug jars may not be desirable.
> > More over, our app is using Derby's in-memory tables as well as its
> > NetworkServerController.
> > So, this parsing/tree-walking code should not conflict with the other
> > two uses.
> >
> > In the comments for DERBY-791, I did notice "We should provide some
> > mechanism for printing these trees in production (non-debug) servers".
> > So, I ran XmlTreeWalker linking only to
> > db-derby-10.5.3.0-bin/lib/derby.jar, but got the same exception:
> >
> > 

Re: Extracting dependencies from SQL statements

2010-03-09 Thread Pavel Bortnovskiy
Rick:

thank you for your patience and continuing support on this issue.

(1) Even prior to your email, I grepped for StopAfterParsing and found the 
code you are referring to in GenericStatement.java.
I am not too keen on going that route, since that would require rebuilding 
Derby and I would rather not temper with prod-quality code.

(2) I have downloaded that PlSql.jj and ran javacc on it. It generated a 
bunch of java files and with a small change to the main, I got it to 
report:

Tables in "select (select 1 from dual), a.string, b.string from a, b where 
exists (select * from c where c.id = a.id);":
A
B
C
DUAL

This is what I am looking for.

(3) My application is Derby powered. The app is relying on Derby's 
in-memory tables for internal data exchange and NetworkServerController to 
monitor these tables from the outside 
of the application. However, just as you properly assumed, parts of my 
application need to analyze dependencies. So, a portion of the application 
(with a configured select) may depend on other
components (whose data may be accessed by the configured select). So, 
while making that dependency analysis, I would need to get a list of all 
the tables referenced in the select.
So far I have done a regex search for the word where and then had to do 
some hacky parsing thereafter. But I don't like that approach. Besides, in 
the current form it wouldn't be able to
handle more complex, nested statements (as the one above that I've tested 
PlSql.jj with).

(4) Off this particular topic. While looking through Derby's code I 
discovered to my amazement that Derby is using OSGi (Apache Felix). Can 
you please take a moment and enlighten me 
a little on what it is used for? The reason why I am asking is that I am 
using already a lot of Apache code (CLI, CODEC, DBCP, POOL) besides 
extensive use of Derby. But now I am keenly interested in refactoring my 
application to use OSGi. I have been looking at two alternatives - Spring 
and Felix and I've been leaning towards Felix. Seeing that Derby is using 
it as well makes me even more inclined
to proceed in that direction.


Thanks,
Pavel.






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Hi Pavel,

Some comments inline...

Pavel Bortnovskiy wrote:
>
> Rick:
>
> your second point grossly understimated the amount of time it took me 
> to get frustrated... it was not quick - it was instanteneous - as soon 
> as I opened sqlgrammar.jj  ;-D
>
> Last question, then, on the subject. Is there any way to easily 
> simplify sqlgrammar.jj, so that it frees itself of all the derby 
> dependencies and so that
> javacc'ed code can just take a string and give me some kind of lexical 
> tree?
This sounds like a frustrating approach too. If you are willing to hack 
the Derby code and create your owned forked version, then I would 
recommend going into GenericStatement.java and hacking the prepMinion() 
method so that you can control the short-circuiting yourself. Look for 
the string StopAfterParsing.
>
> Alternatively, javacc project has various .jj files in its repository, 
> two of which are PL/SQL-based (there is one for Oracle 9i).
> Perhaps using those .jj files may work for my purposes?.. Your 
> thoughts would be appreciated.
I have never looked at those grammars so I can't advise you here. This 
approach also will be peppered with frustrations if what you want to 
achieve is a Derby-powered app which performs some extra dependency 
tracking. Since the javacc-supplied grammars aren't the Derby grammar, 
statements which parse in one grammar may not parse in the other.

So let's step back for a moment. What do you need to achieve here:

o Are you writing a Derby-powered app or just trying to use the Derby 
parser against statements which actually run in some other database?

o If this is a Derby-powered app, do you need to track the dependencies 
before the statement is executed?

Thanks,
-Rick
>
> Thank you for your time and attention.
>
> Pavel.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Rick Hillegas *
> Sent by: richard.hille...@sun.com
>
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> "Derby Discussion" 
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> To
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>
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>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Pavel,
>
> Some comments inline...
>
> Pavel Bortnovskiy wrote:
> >
> > Rick (while I am reading  and trying DERBY-4415), that seems like
> > there is no other way to use prod jars and yet stop the parser from
> > binding?
>
> It looks to me as though the shortcircuiting logi

Re: Extracting dependencies from SQL statements

2010-03-10 Thread Rick Hillegas

Hi Pavel,

Glad to hear that you have found a solution which works for you.

Concerning the OSGi support in Derby: the Felix code is included in the 
Derby source tree only because it allows us to build the thin bit of 
packaging which presents Derby as an OSGi bundle. The production Derby 
code has no dependencies on Felix. You may want to start a new email 
thread if you want to learn about how other users have fared using Derby 
as an OSGi bundle.


Hope this helps,
-Rick

Pavel Bortnovskiy wrote:


Rick:

thank you for your patience and continuing support on this issue.

(1) Even prior to your email, I grepped for StopAfterParsing and found 
the code you are referring to in GenericStatement.java.
I am not too keen on going that route, since that would require 
rebuilding Derby and I would rather not temper with prod-quality code.


(2) I have downloaded that PlSql.jj and ran javacc on it. It generated 
a bunch of java files and with a small change to the main, I got it to 
report:


Tables in "select (select 1 from dual), a.string, b.string from a, b 
where exists (select * from c where c.id = a.id);":

A
B
C
DUAL

This is what I am looking for.

(3) My application is Derby powered. The app is relying on Derby's 
in-memory tables for internal data exchange and 
NetworkServerController to monitor these tables from the outside
of the application. However, just as you properly assumed, parts of my 
application need to analyze dependencies. So, a portion of the 
application (with a configured select) may depend on other
components (whose data may be accessed by the configured select). So, 
while making that dependency analysis, I would need to get a list of 
all the tables referenced in the select.
So far I have done a regex search for the word where and then had to 
do some hacky parsing thereafter. But I don't like that approach. 
Besides, in the current form it wouldn't be able to
handle more complex, nested statements (as the one above that I've 
tested PlSql.jj with).


(4) Off this particular topic. While looking through Derby's code I 
discovered to my amazement that Derby is using OSGi (Apache Felix). 
Can you please take a moment and enlighten me
a little on what it is used for? The reason why I am asking is that I 
am using already a lot of Apache code (CLI, CODEC, DBCP, POOL) besides 
extensive use of Derby. But now I am keenly interested in refactoring 
my application to use OSGi. I have been looking at two alternatives - 
Spring and Felix and I've been leaning towards Felix. Seeing that 
Derby is using it as well makes me even more inclined

to proceed in that direction.


Thanks,
Pavel.





*Rick Hillegas *
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Hi Pavel,

Some comments inline...

Pavel Bortnovskiy wrote:
>
> Rick:
>
> your second point grossly understimated the amount of time it took me
> to get frustrated... it was not quick - it was instanteneous - as soon
> as I opened sqlgrammar.jj  ;-D
>
> Last question, then, on the subject. Is there any way to easily
> simplify sqlgrammar.jj, so that it frees itself of all the derby
> dependencies and so that
> javacc'ed code can just take a string and give me some kind of lexical
> tree?
This sounds like a frustrating approach too. If you are willing to hack
the Derby code and create your owned forked version, then I would
recommend going into GenericStatement.java and hacking the prepMinion()
method so that you can control the short-circuiting yourself. Look for
the string StopAfterParsing.
>
> Alternatively, javacc project has various .jj files in its repository,
> two of which are PL/SQL-based (there is one for Oracle 9i).
> Perhaps using those .jj files may work for my purposes?.. Your
> thoughts would be appreciated.
I have never looked at those grammars so I can't advise you here. This
approach also will be peppered with frustrations if what you want to
achieve is a Derby-powered app which performs some extra dependency
tracking. Since the javacc-supplied grammars aren't the Derby grammar,
statements which parse in one grammar may not parse in the other.

So let's step back for a moment. What do you need to achieve here:

o Are you writing a Derby-powered app or just trying to use the Derby
parser against statements which actually run in some other database?

o If this is a Derby-powered app, do you need to track the dependencies
before the statement is executed?

Thanks,
-Rick
>
> Thank you for your time and attention.
>
> Pavel.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Rick Hillegas *
> Sent by: richard.hille...@sun.com
>
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