Re: [libreoffice-design] MimeType icons

2011-01-12 Thread Jaron Kuppers
Hi Christoph and others,

I didn't follow my own advise! :-o  (tsk tsk Jaron)  I put up the source
file now:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice_Initial_Icons_Jaron_draft_0-1.svg

Cheers,
Jaron


On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Christoph Noack wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> First - I'm very sorry that I'm unable to add any comments or feedback
> today. But I tried to put all the effort in ...
>
> Am Mittwoch, den 12.01.2011, 23:51 +0100 schrieb Bernhard Dippold:
> > (Especially as we switched the template and document icons - what has
> > not been implemented in the source files uploaded.
>
> ... getting the basic file right. You can grab it here:
>
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/c/c3/LibreOffice_Initial_Icons-Christoph.svg
>
> The properties page is here:
>
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice_Initial_Icons-Christoph.svg
>
> And the wiki page is - you know - here:
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/LibreOffice_Initial_Icons
>
>
> @ Bernhard: Of course, I'll use the other license(s) - no bad
> intentions :-) I've got aware of the wiki change when I've uploaded the
> "neutral TDF installer branding".
>
> The changes:
>  * Removed the shadows of all application/document icons and
>resized all corresponding icons to use the available space
>(Feedback by Mirek who provided the platform specific shadow
>requirements; we may apply a drop shadow or something like that
>later ... at the moment it corresponds to the "old" Galaxy
>icons; but re-adding shadow requires proper resizing once more)
>  * Exchanged the coloring between documents and templates -
>documents are now white/grayish, templates are more colored
>(Feedback by Nik, adapted feedback by Björn)
>  * Re-added some color for very small icons (e.g. providing light
>green background for the Calc grid in 16px) (Adapted Feedback by
>Ivan to ensure proper color coding for small sized icons)
>  * Base: Changed from 3-stack to 4-stack for the 128px Base icon
>(but kept the background, since it is really required to
>harmonize the icons, although I agree to the misleading meaning)
>(Feedback by Ivan)
>  * Base: Added missing HC versions
>
> The downsides:
>  * My "grid" inside the icons is broken (resizing issue), so that
>the binders now have a bit space at the top (I decided to put
>the remaining pixel to the top, because at the bottom it still
>is nicely aligned)
>  * The icons - especially the application/document icons - look now
>rather simple. Some people may like it, some won't ...
>
> Note: I've kept the placeholders for the symbolism in each of the icons,
> so you'll know the required size of the symbols (since this has been
> discussed for the Draw icon).
>
> Note: To see the icons in their natural beauty (just kidding), please
> use 100% zoom, disable grid (#), disable all placeholder layers. This
> time, there is no nice preview - sorry!
>
> @ Bernhard: Tomorrow, I might help Jaron to polish the Impress icons (if
> he likes, but this requires "the source" ... and thanks to him to start
> working on that). And, I could pick Math if there is time left ...
>
> @ Bernhard 2: Thanks for your additions to the Wiki page :-)
>
> We run out of time a bit (but still, my feeling is much better than some
> days ago...), but we really need some knowledge how to export the icons
> (naming, maybe the source directory location). Could anybody take care
> of that and ask on the developers list? Otherwise I fear, that tasks
> like that keep us busy at the end :-\
>
> Anybody else (maybe new guys) to pick some symbolism (Printer
> Administration and Macros are a challenge ... you finde more information
> in the wiki [1])?
>
> Thanks for all your work and feedback!
>
> Cheers,
> Christoph
>
> [1]
>
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/LibreOffice_Initial_Icons#Document_Symbolism
>
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Re: [libreoffice-design] MimeType icons

2011-01-12 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi all!

First - I'm very sorry that I'm unable to add any comments or feedback
today. But I tried to put all the effort in ...

Am Mittwoch, den 12.01.2011, 23:51 +0100 schrieb Bernhard Dippold:
> (Especially as we switched the template and document icons - what has 
> not been implemented in the source files uploaded. 

... getting the basic file right. You can grab it here:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/c/c3/LibreOffice_Initial_Icons-Christoph.svg

The properties page is here:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice_Initial_Icons-Christoph.svg

And the wiki page is - you know - here:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/LibreOffice_Initial_Icons


@ Bernhard: Of course, I'll use the other license(s) - no bad
intentions :-) I've got aware of the wiki change when I've uploaded the
"neutral TDF installer branding".

The changes:
  * Removed the shadows of all application/document icons and
resized all corresponding icons to use the available space
(Feedback by Mirek who provided the platform specific shadow
requirements; we may apply a drop shadow or something like that
later ... at the moment it corresponds to the "old" Galaxy
icons; but re-adding shadow requires proper resizing once more)
  * Exchanged the coloring between documents and templates -
documents are now white/grayish, templates are more colored
(Feedback by Nik, adapted feedback by Björn)
  * Re-added some color for very small icons (e.g. providing light
green background for the Calc grid in 16px) (Adapted Feedback by
Ivan to ensure proper color coding for small sized icons)
  * Base: Changed from 3-stack to 4-stack for the 128px Base icon
(but kept the background, since it is really required to
harmonize the icons, although I agree to the misleading meaning)
(Feedback by Ivan)
  * Base: Added missing HC versions

The downsides:
  * My "grid" inside the icons is broken (resizing issue), so that
the binders now have a bit space at the top (I decided to put
the remaining pixel to the top, because at the bottom it still
is nicely aligned)
  * The icons - especially the application/document icons - look now
rather simple. Some people may like it, some won't ...

Note: I've kept the placeholders for the symbolism in each of the icons,
so you'll know the required size of the symbols (since this has been
discussed for the Draw icon).

Note: To see the icons in their natural beauty (just kidding), please
use 100% zoom, disable grid (#), disable all placeholder layers. This
time, there is no nice preview - sorry!

@ Bernhard: Tomorrow, I might help Jaron to polish the Impress icons (if
he likes, but this requires "the source" ... and thanks to him to start
working on that). And, I could pick Math if there is time left ...

@ Bernhard 2: Thanks for your additions to the Wiki page :-)

We run out of time a bit (but still, my feeling is much better than some
days ago...), but we really need some knowledge how to export the icons
(naming, maybe the source directory location). Could anybody take care
of that and ask on the developers list? Otherwise I fear, that tasks
like that keep us busy at the end :-\

Anybody else (maybe new guys) to pick some symbolism (Printer
Administration and Macros are a challenge ... you finde more information
in the wiki [1])?

Thanks for all your work and feedback!

Cheers,
Christoph

[1]
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/LibreOffice_Initial_Icons#Document_Symbolism


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[libreoffice-design] MimeTyme icons - Macro

2011-01-12 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Hi all,

as I wasn't able to have any good idea on Draw and Base, I went over to 
the Macro icon idea I had in mind for some time now:


The two gear-wheels of my first proposal are too bold for the larger 
icons, so I played with syntax highlighted text (directly copied from 
LibO macro code window).


Here is the result:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Macro_icon_proposal.png

The gradient on the gear wheels is still too dark (should be the same as 
the document border), but I have to stop for tonight.


I uploaded the source again to the known destination, linked from the 
Icon wiki page: (I updated the present work status)


http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/LibreOffice_Initial_Icons#Present_State_of_the_Icon_Design

Best regards

Bernhard

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Re: [libreoffice-design] MimeType icons - Draw

2011-01-12 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Hi Jaron,

Jaron Kuppers schrieb:

Hi again!

I tried my hand at the Draw icon.  I didn't have time to do the template or
high contrast; if people like the proposal I will try and do them tomorrow.


I think we need to get the symbols right at first, then we should 
implement them in the different icons.


(Especially as we switched the template and document icons - what has 
not been implemented in the source files uploaded.


http://picasaweb.google.com/JaronBaron/LibreOffice#5561372495654980738

Thanks for stepping in - even today I spent some more time on this icon, 
but I didn't find a better approach...


There are three minor points I want to mention concerning your draft:

1. As the heavier items are in the upper area of the symbol it doesn't 
look very balanced. Even if I don't like to copy the ODF icons, perhaps 
we should move the rectangle up and the triangle / circle down.


2. I have a minor problem with the rectangle with handles lent from the 
ODF icons:


Draw doesn't use round handles - and a rectangle has eight square handles.

Polygons can be drawn with one handle on each corner, so you can create 
a rectangle with four of them - or a trapezoid, if it fits better with 
the overall design.


3. I don't know if the white fill inside the triangle doesn't look too 
harsh - did you try the light yellow? (But this might be less visual, 
when the icons are switched to the lighter background).


As I said - minor points (and probably not shared by everybody here).

Best regards

Bernhard

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Re: [libreoffice-design] MimeType icons - Draw

2011-01-12 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Jaron,

2011/1/12 Jaron Kuppers 

> Hi again!
>
> I tried my hand at the Draw icon.  I didn't have time to do the template or
> high contrast; if people like the proposal I will try and do them tomorrow.
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/JaronBaron/LibreOffice#5561372495654980738


I like it, it gets my vote.

>
>
> Cheers,
> Jaron
>
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Bernhard Dippold <
> bernh...@familie-dippold.at> wrote:
>
> > Hi Jaron, all,
> >
> > Jaron Kuppers schrieb:
> >
> >  Hi Bernhard,
> >>
> >> My comments are pretty much the same as Christoph's.  The 3D look seems
> >> out
> >> of place, and a box with handles would look great (as shown in his
> link).
> >>  I
> >> will play with your svg file if you put it up; playing around with it
> >> might
> >> spark some ideas for what else could be added.  Draw is a surprisingly
> >> tough
> >> icon...
> >>
> >> I would greatly appreciate if everyone could put their svg files on the
> >> wiki
> >> page:
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/LibreOffice_Initial_Icons
> >>
> >
> > I did :-)
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Bernhard
> >
> > PS: If you start working on the source file:
> >
> > My work is licensed under the triple license in the wiki (CC-by-sa, LGPL
> +
> > MPL). If Christoph agrees to this tripe license, our work can easily be
> > included in the product, when you keep these licenses.
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: MimeType icons - Impress

2011-01-12 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Jaron and Ivan,

2011/1/12 Ivan M. 

> Hi Jaron,
>
> Thanks for joining in this effort - it's much appreciated and it's
> great to have you on board!
>
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Jaron Kuppers 
> wrote:
> > Hi again!
> >
> > Here is my Impress logo proposal.  I didn't have time to do the template
> or
> > high contrast; if people like the proposal I will try and do them
> tomorrow.
> >
> > http://picasaweb.google.com/JaronBaron/LibreOffice#556137249351106
>
> The 'mountain' image really stands out on this icon because the colors
> are so different (on the Writer icon, the sky in the image went well
> with the overall blue of the icon, as did the green). So, for this
> icon, I would suggest something like a pie graph, or just getting rid
> of the image altogether (unless you can find an image design that
> works well with Impress's oranges/brown colors?)
>
> One more suggestion: I think the inner rounded rectangle frame could
> be taller (going upward) by another 8-10 pixels on the 128x128 icon.
> Christoph's Writer icon [1] is taller in this respect and it would be
> good to have consistency in the size of the icon's inner
> emblems/symbols.
>

+1 on both of these.
As for the symbol, how about just a title and a big pie chart, maybe a
descriptive line of text below it (as presentations really shouldn't have
much text, because reading occupies the same part of the brain as listening,
whereas purely visual information occupies a different part).

>
> Regards,
> Ivan.
>
> [1]
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: MimeType icons - Impress

2011-01-12 Thread Ivan M.
Hi Jaron,

Thanks for joining in this effort - it's much appreciated and it's
great to have you on board!

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Jaron Kuppers  wrote:
> Hi again!
>
> Here is my Impress logo proposal.  I didn't have time to do the template or
> high contrast; if people like the proposal I will try and do them tomorrow.
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/JaronBaron/LibreOffice#556137249351106

The 'mountain' image really stands out on this icon because the colors
are so different (on the Writer icon, the sky in the image went well
with the overall blue of the icon, as did the green). So, for this
icon, I would suggest something like a pie graph, or just getting rid
of the image altogether (unless you can find an image design that
works well with Impress's oranges/brown colors?)

One more suggestion: I think the inner rounded rectangle frame could
be taller (going upward) by another 8-10 pixels on the 128x128 icon.
Christoph's Writer icon [1] is taller in this respect and it would be
good to have consistency in the size of the icon's inner
emblems/symbols.

Regards,
Ivan.

[1]

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Re: Re: [libreoffice-design] Fields UI rework - first impressions

2011-01-12 Thread Björn Balazs
Hi Cédric, Christoph, all,

sorry for the long delay - but things were a bit messy around here:)

First the good news: LibreOffice is running on my machine and it is running 
well :)

Now to the tough points: All your comments were very helpful - even though I 
think I will still need some time to actually understand and interalize all 
the information. To me it all sums up to the following (which is probably also 
true for most other tasks around):

We need a complete redesign of the dialogue into probably more than one 
dialogue including cutting down the functionallity.

But this definitely is not a task "to easily start with into LibreOffice 
Usability". I actually don't even have a clue how we could achieve this within 
a project of this size - but I am happy to learn :)

So, Cédric, to me it looks like all we can actually do at the moment is the 
following:

Change the dialogue to become wizard. Keep all existing functionallity (no 
questions wether some dialogues still make sense) and adding the missing 
functionality (which also makes this a rather managable task).

In consequence this would mean that users probably cannot alter the type of a 
field after it has once been added to the document other than by deleting it 
and adding a new field.

Are you with me in this short analysis? Any objections from anyone?

I also have some organisational questions: 
I joined the wiki (http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Bjoern). What other 
'channels' should I join? 

Do you prefer any tools for mocking? How do you communicate mocks?

Anything else?

So long for today,
Björn


Am Donnerstag, 23. Dezember 2010, 10:15:38 schrieb Cedric Bosdonnat:
> Hi Chris, Bj�rn (and others),
> 
> On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 22:56 +0100, Christoph Noack wrote:
> > > I am still fighting some problems with actually installing
> > > LibreOffice to my OpenSuse (just recently switched because I was
> > > pissed with Kubuntu - but world is not much greener here - even
> > > though the Logo suggests so). No! Don't laugh! Stop! I am
> > > psychologist :)
> 
> Well, are you installing it from here?
> 
> http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=LibreOffice&baseproject=openSUSE%
> 3A11.3&lang=en&exclude_filter=home%3A&exclude_debug=true
> 
> It went very well for me (at least on OpenSuse 11.2)
> 
> > Hehe, there is ... and although some people won't believe that, some
> > parts are still superior to what the competition provides.
> 
> Well there are some important differences with what Word does. Some of
> the most important ones:
>   * Word allows nested fields, LibreOffice doesn't. This is very useful
> to introduce conditional content for Mail Merges for example.
>   * Word has form fields, LibreOffice can handle them, but has no UI to
> insert them.
>   * There are Word fields that LibreOffice can't handle and
> vice-versa... but at least LibreOffice keeps them to be able to save
> them again to doc files.
> 
> If you want to have a look at some doc test files to see those form
> fields, there are some samples attached to these bugs:
>   * https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30711
>   * https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636119
>   * https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636127
>   * https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636128
> 
> > But there are also other places that deal with field / variable
> > 
> > information (to give you an overview):
> >   * the application menu "Insert -- Fields" provides shortcuts
> >   to
> >   
> > often used field types (static list)
> >   
> >   * the Navigator lists some of the field information (e.g.
> >   provides
> >   
> > a list of headings in the document)
> >   
> >   * the Data Sources dialog ("View -- Data Sources") provides
> >   direct
> >   
> > linking of fields of connected databases
> 
> The following are also related:
> * Insert -- Bookmark
> * Insert -- Cross-reference
> 
> > > I guess from the UX perspective there could conceptually be an
> > > overlap with the formular editor in calc? Are there any concepts
> > > around that could inspire our work in this direction? Christoph?
> > 
> > Well, very good point (Calc)! Although there is also some (limited)
> > formula stuff in Writer as well. For other concepts, mmh, I have to
> > think about that ... I'm currently unsure. Stefan, anyone else?
> 
> FYI, the Writer formulas are handled by some Writer specific code.
> Sharing the same code than Calc (and have the same syntax) for them is
> one of my goals. I already have some pending patch in that area using
> ixion (the new formula engine that will be used in calc in the future)
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-design] MimeType icons - Base

2011-01-12 Thread Ivan M.
Hi Christoph, all,

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Christoph Noack
 wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> Am Sonntag, den 09.01.2011, 00:26 +0100 schrieb Bernhard Dippold:
>> (who starts working on the Draw document icon)
>>
>> If anybody else would try his/her skills on the Master Doc (just put
>> the
>> symbols of four Writer icons or the full icons together on the main
>> application icon), this would already help a lot!
>
> I missed that, so there is plenty of opportunity to others ... the
> Master Doc is also pretty important, I think.
>
> I tried to "play around" with the Base icon during the last two days,
> but it is pretty difficult. I fell back to the original "stack" idea,
> since it is rather hard to include all the database relations and the
> objects and keeping a unique and easy-to-identify look.
>
> However, here is the intermediate result ... the templates (are there
> any, didn't check ... no, seems not), and the High Contrast versions are
> missing. But, I added the original "colorful" version, and the Nik based
> "colorless" style. Personally, I prefer the latter ... otherwise Base
> reminds me of (delicious) candy.
>
> Now, I'm curious how you perceive the "background" idea for the 128px
> icon. I've added it to get a more or less harmonic style ... considering
> Writer and Calc. Unfortunately, the icons start to differ given their
> level of detail (per size).

Before I get into feedback mode, I want to say thank you for
continuing to work on these icons - it's great to see the progress!

Now, let's switch to feedback mode: I'm not sure that the binary
background works well as a metaphor. Of course, everything on
computers is, in the end, binary, but AFAIK, Base involves no more or
less binary than Writer, Calc, Draw ... at least, I hope it's a
program people can use without touching binary! Maybe some SQL code
could be used instead (CREATE TABLE ... SELECT * FROM)?

I also think the 128x128 version adds some unnecessary complexity by
making space between the stacked cylinders... maybe add a fourth one
instead?

To really nitpick, I wonder if the 48x48 icon couldn't have a slightly
thicker border for the stack as it looks very thin against the thick
outer border of the icon.

As for the colors, I wonder if we couldn't find a compromise between
colorless and colorful icons by changing the color of the inner border
(which is gray in the colorless version). What I mean is: having a
gray or white inner border like the colorless icon coupled with the
colored gradient fill of the colorful icon? What do you think?

Regards,
Ivan.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] MimeType icons - Base

2011-01-12 Thread drew
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 21:05 +0100, Christoph Noack wrote:
> Hi Drew!
> 
> Am Dienstag, den 11.01.2011, 18:47 -0500 schrieb drew:
> > On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 00:14 +0100, Christoph Noack wrote:
> > > I tried to "play around" with the Base icon during the last two days
> [...]
> > 
> > The important part to me is to stop portraying Base as a database,
> > because it is not - from working with hundreds or more of users with
> > Base those that thought of it as a database had very bad experiences
> > (meaning the Schema management and such) those that approached it as
> > what it was designed for, a form/report management tool had much better
> > experience.
> > 
> > It would be nice for the icon to emphasis the form/report functions and
> > IMO get away from the idea it is a RDBMS.
> > 
> > I have a very crude idea for a base icon - I'll put it to an image and
> > pass it along - it would only be to try and pass along my general ideas.
> 
> Oh yes, please do this ... and don't mind about the quality, it may even
> be a pencil sketch. It's about getting the idea :-)
Howdy Christoph,

That may be the best solution, although I was ready to revert to a
textual description after a quick try.

> 
> Of course, we will have to provide something, so that our recent OOo
> users feel comfortable. And - like you - I'd like to set the right
> expectations, since the report functionality is rather limited (if you
> don't have the extension).



Ah yes reporting without report builder - it is limited unless you can
write SQL in which case it becomes...lol...less limited...ok good point.

Report builder offers something more then just the added features
however - the work flow in Base is horrendous, mostly because the basic
work flow in OO.o was horrendous from the stand point of being efficient
with designing forms and reports, the same is true for data transfer
between Base and Calc. Base is slamming of these large building blocks
of functionality from the older StarOffice designs together in a new
way, and it didn't work out so well. Report builder was free, to a much
larger extent, to do things differently.

Anyway that has little to do with an icon design.

I'll try the sketching, or send my little idea along in text, either way
tonight and don't let it slow you down from you are doing already.

Thanks

Drew



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Re: [libreoffice-design] MimeType icons - Base

2011-01-12 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Drew!

Am Dienstag, den 11.01.2011, 18:47 -0500 schrieb drew:
> On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 00:14 +0100, Christoph Noack wrote:
> > I tried to "play around" with the Base icon during the last two days
[...]
> 
> The important part to me is to stop portraying Base as a database,
> because it is not - from working with hundreds or more of users with
> Base those that thought of it as a database had very bad experiences
> (meaning the Schema management and such) those that approached it as
> what it was designed for, a form/report management tool had much better
> experience.
> 
> It would be nice for the icon to emphasis the form/report functions and
> IMO get away from the idea it is a RDBMS.
> 
> I have a very crude idea for a base icon - I'll put it to an image and
> pass it along - it would only be to try and pass along my general ideas.

Oh yes, please do this ... and don't mind about the quality, it may even
be a pencil sketch. It's about getting the idea :-)

Of course, we will have to provide something, so that our recent OOo
users feel comfortable. And - like you - I'd like to set the right
expectations, since the report functionality is rather limited (if you
don't have the extension).

And, as I said before, at the end we also have to consider the
"uniqueness" of the icon - that is (here) a bit more important than to
be totally correct. MSO 2010 for example, switched back to "simple"
letters (user research based change, according to MS).

Looking forward ...

Cheers,
Christoph


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Re: [libreoffice-design] MimeType icons - Draw

2011-01-12 Thread Jaron Kuppers
Hi again!

I tried my hand at the Draw icon.  I didn't have time to do the template or
high contrast; if people like the proposal I will try and do them tomorrow.

http://picasaweb.google.com/JaronBaron/LibreOffice#5561372495654980738

Cheers,
Jaron

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Bernhard Dippold <
bernh...@familie-dippold.at> wrote:

> Hi Jaron, all,
>
> Jaron Kuppers schrieb:
>
>  Hi Bernhard,
>>
>> My comments are pretty much the same as Christoph's.  The 3D look seems
>> out
>> of place, and a box with handles would look great (as shown in his link).
>>  I
>> will play with your svg file if you put it up; playing around with it
>> might
>> spark some ideas for what else could be added.  Draw is a surprisingly
>> tough
>> icon...
>>
>> I would greatly appreciate if everyone could put their svg files on the
>> wiki
>> page: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/LibreOffice_Initial_Icons
>>
>
> I did :-)
>
> Best regards
>
> Bernhard
>
> PS: If you start working on the source file:
>
> My work is licensed under the triple license in the wiki (CC-by-sa, LGPL +
> MPL). If Christoph agrees to this tripe license, our work can easily be
> included in the product, when you keep these licenses.
>
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[libreoffice-design] Re: MimeType icons - Impress

2011-01-12 Thread Jaron Kuppers
Hi again!

Here is my Impress logo proposal.  I didn't have time to do the template or
high contrast; if people like the proposal I will try and do them tomorrow.

http://picasaweb.google.com/JaronBaron/LibreOffice#556137249351106

Cheers,
Jaron



On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Jaron Kuppers wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> FYI I am trying my hand at the Impress logo.
>
> Cheers,
> Jaron
>
>

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[libreoffice-design] MimeType icons - Impress

2011-01-12 Thread Jaron Kuppers
Hi all,

FYI I am trying my hand at the Impress logo.

Cheers,
Jaron

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Re: Re: [libreoffice-design] MimeType icons - template

2011-01-12 Thread Björn Balazs
Hi Bernhard, all,

Am Mittwoch, 12. Januar 2011, 00:15:53 schrieb Bernhard Dippold:
> > yesterday, I talked about "switching" the colors for the icons ... to
> > avoid the very dark look and the need to adapt the symbolism as well
> > (color wise).
> 
> If the color switch works for small icons too (didn't try yet), this
> would be a good approach to include most of the comments, so I'd use it
> even for the first final version.
> 
> Sorry, Bjï¿œrn, but inversion would mean to manually modify most of the
> gradients, so I think we should leave this way to further improvements.

I totaly agree with the proposed solution. I like it!

Best,
Björn
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