Re: [libreoffice-design] [VI] Cover design for printed LibreOffice user guides
On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 00:17 +0200, Bernhard Dippold wrote: > > > Sorry - different things to do :-( > > I don't have lots of other comments. > > I agree that the logo might be more prominent in order to have a larger > "LibreOffice" text on the cover, but I would keep the logo intact as > this is our main branding element. > > You probably tried already to have the full mimetype icons instead of > just the symbols - this would be the only way I imagine with this design > to include the sub-applications colors to the covers without becoming > too prominent. > > But these are not very important considerations. Your design looks good > - there is no reason at all to veto it: Please go ahead! Alright - well, I hope to get some time on it tomorrow. You know, one thing that would be nice. If someone took just that the scatter pattern file, and added the few outlying, application colored, corner pieces - per the commercial box design. I don't quite know my away around the shading/masking/what-not functions in Inkscape, yet. Anyway, @jean - I will put an email here after uploading what I have tomorrow night. //drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] [VI] Cover design for printed LibreOffice user guides
Hi Drew, Jean, all I'm really sorry, that I didn't comment on this design earlier. I had started to move something similar to the OpenSourcePress design to SVG, but my laptop decided to boil (Ubuntu fan control sucks) and all my work was gone... Jean Hollis Weber schrieb: On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 09:22 -0400, drew wrote: [...] Hi Jean, Well, couldn't resist touching this one time over morning coffee. Decoupled the document icon from the textual part and put both no a growth hormone, also rolled back the color jab on the scatter patter as it was kaka (technical term for sucked)...you can see in the latest file http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Lib0WriterGuideSimple.png [...] The large gray LibO icon in the upper right-hand corner seems a bit of a harsh contrast to the rest of the image. It might work if smaller, or in a different color or something. I assume you removed the document icon from the logo in order to enlarge the "LibreOffice" text, which really seems a bit small on the other covers on the wiki gallery (http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Gallery_DocumentationFronts). But I don't like this icon in this place and size either - it looks too bold in my eyes. [...] Doesn't look like anyone else has had time to look at this and coment. Sorry - different things to do :-( I don't have lots of other comments. I agree that the logo might be more prominent in order to have a larger "LibreOffice" text on the cover, but I would keep the logo intact as this is our main branding element. You probably tried already to have the full mimetype icons instead of just the symbols - this would be the only way I imagine with this design to include the sub-applications colors to the covers without becoming too prominent. But these are not very important considerations. Your design looks good - there is no reason at all to veto it: Please go ahead! And thanks for stepping in! Best regards Bernhard -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] [VI] Cover design for printed LibreOffice user guides
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 06:19, Sveinn í Felli wrote: > Þann sun 3.júl 2011 00:16, skrifaði Jean Hollis Weber: >> >> Drew, >> >> >> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:GettingStartedGuideFrontCoverSimple.zip >> >> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:User-guide-covers-bits.zip >> >> >> I finally made time to look at your files, and both of them gave this >> error message when I tried to open them in Archive Manager (Ubuntu 11.04 >> Classic): >> > - >> >> I don't what all that means, except something may be wrong with your zip >> file, or it went weird when downloaded from the wiki. >> >> --Jean >> > > Opens correctly with Gnome Archive on Mint 10, also Ark and FileRoller on > OpenSuse 11.4. Both by opening directly and after saving to disk. > > Sveinn í Felli > I'll try downloading them again and see if that solves the problem. Thanks. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] [VI] Cover design for printed LibreOffice user guides
Þann sun 3.júl 2011 00:16, skrifaði Jean Hollis Weber: Drew, http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:GettingStartedGuideFrontCoverSimple.zip http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:User-guide-covers-bits.zip I finally made time to look at your files, and both of them gave this error message when I tried to open them in Archive Manager (Ubuntu 11.04 Classic): - I don't what all that means, except something may be wrong with your zip file, or it went weird when downloaded from the wiki. --Jean Opens correctly with Gnome Archive on Mint 10, also Ark and FileRoller on OpenSuse 11.4. Both by opening directly and after saving to disk. Sveinn í Felli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] [VI] Cover design for printed LibreOffice user guides
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 09:22 -0400, drew wrote: > On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 21:23 -0400, drew wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 10:45 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > > > > > > Could you make the little graphics available, so I can play around with > > > variations to this design myself? No need to upload all the xcf's at > > > this point; I can use the Getting Started one as a base. > > > > Hi Jean, > > Well, couldn't resist touching this one time over morning coffee. > Decoupled the document icon from the textual part and put both no a > growth hormone, also rolled back the color jab on the scatter patter as > it was kaka (technical term for sucked)...you can see in the latest file > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Lib0WriterGuideSimple.png > > > Added the two new graphic files (doc-icon-2in.png, logo-5in.png) into > the zip file and updated that > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:User-guide-covers-bits.zip > > And with that I'm off to other things for the day. The large gray LibO icon in the upper right-hand corner seems a bit of a harsh contrast to the rest of the image. It might work if smaller, or in a different color or something. I was going to play around with some ideas, but I couldn't get your zip files to open (as reported in a previous note). Doesn't look like anyone else has had time to look at this and coment. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] [VI] Cover design for printed LibreOffice user guides
Drew, http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:GettingStartedGuideFrontCoverSimple.zip http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:User-guide-covers-bits.zip I finally made time to look at your files, and both of them gave this error message when I tried to open them in Archive Manager (Ubuntu 11.04 Classic): Archive: /home/jeanweber/Documents/LibreOffice Docs/User-guide-covers-bits.zip [/home/jeanweber/Documents/LibreOffice Docs/User-guide-covers-bits.zip] End-of-central-directory signature not found. Either this file is not a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive. In the latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on the last disk(s) of this archive. zipinfo: cannot find zipfile directory in one of /home/jeanweber/Documents/LibreOffice Docs/User-guide-covers-bits.zip or /home/jeanweber/Documents/LibreOfficeDocs/User-guide-covers-bits.zip.zip and cannot find /home/jeanweber/Documents/LibreOffice Docs/User-guide-covers-bits.zip.ZIP, period. I don't what all that means, except something may be wrong with your zip file, or it went weird when downloaded from the wiki. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] [VI] Cover design for printed LibreOffice user guides
On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 21:23 -0400, drew wrote: > On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 10:45 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > > Could you make the little graphics available, so I can play around with > > variations to this design myself? No need to upload all the xcf's at > > this point; I can use the Getting Started one as a base. Hi Jean, Well, couldn't resist touching this one time over morning coffee. Decoupled the document icon from the textual part and put both no a growth hormone, also rolled back the color jab on the scatter patter as it was kaka (technical term for sucked)...you can see in the latest file http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Lib0WriterGuideSimple.png Added the two new graphic files (doc-icon-2in.png, logo-5in.png) into the zip file and updated that http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:User-guide-covers-bits.zip And with that I'm off to other things for the day. Best wishes, //drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] [VI] Cover design for printed LibreOffice user guides
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 10:45 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > > I don't think the gray (white with high transparency?) box at the bottom > is an improvement. Even though the blue graphic might look "lurid" to > me, IMO the design looks better overall without the gray box. The larger > type for the guide name is good, though possibly a tad too large. > > Could you make the little graphics available, so I can play around with > variations to this design myself? No need to upload all the xcf's at > this point; I can use the Getting Started one as a base. Absolutely. Check the writer guide draft once more - if you are still seeing a rectangle then be sure to clear your cache. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Lib0WriterGuideSimple.png I've put the .xcf file with the last changes and the PNG files I created for these into a zip file here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:User-guide-covers-bits.zip Let's see only issue might be fonts, the title is using the M+ 2p Super Bold font. (Think I got that name right) Best wishes, //drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] [VI] Cover design for printed LibreOffice user guides
On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 18:39 -0400, drew wrote: > On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 18:05 -0400, drew wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 07:15 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > > > > > And here is a slight variation of the Writer Guide cover then, with an > > eye to your comments: > > > > Pushed one last update to this file, for today > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Lib0WriterGuideSimple.png > > Slight change to the inset area.. I don't think the gray (white with high transparency?) box at the bottom is an improvement. Even though the blue graphic might look "lurid" to me, IMO the design looks better overall without the gray box. The larger type for the guide name is good, though possibly a tad too large. Could you make the little graphics available, so I can play around with variations to this design myself? No need to upload all the xcf's at this point; I can use the Getting Started one as a base. Thanks! --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] [VI] Cover design for printed LibreOffice user guides
On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 18:05 -0400, drew wrote: > On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 07:15 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > > And here is a slight variation of the Writer Guide cover then, with an > eye to your comments: > Pushed one last update to this file, for today http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Lib0WriterGuideSimple.png Slight change to the inset area.. Ciao, //drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] [VI] Cover design for printed LibreOffice user guides
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 07:15 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 16:32 -0400, drew wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 04:03 -0400, drew wrote: > > > On Thu, 2011-06-16 at 12:19 +0200, Bernhard Dippold wrote: > > > > Hi Jean, all, > > > > > > > > Jean Hollis Weber schrieb: > > > > > On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 08:14 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > > > > >> On Sat, 2011-05-21 at 16:35 +0200, Bernhard Dippold wrote: > > > > >>> [...] > > > > > A very simple start: > > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:GettingStartedGuideFrontCoverSimple.png > > > > > > Note I dropped in a sub-title, in this case for Chapter 1. I did not use > > > a very high compression setting on the PNG file, as this is for an > > > example. > > > > > > Jean had asked for a GIMP compatible file and the wiki will not > > > accept .xcf files, so wrapped that in a zip file, here: > > > > > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:GettingStartedGuideFrontCoverSimple.zip > > > > > > As I say - it is quite simple. > > > > > > > Staying with the KISS principle: > > > > Took the simple file, above, as the base, then adorning with graphical > > element for the specific guide. > > > > With the graphic would go where the sub-title is in the example. > > > > Sound reasonable? > > > > Alright - I see 4 guides that need covers. > > > > Getting Started > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Lib0GettingStartedGuideSimple.png > > > > Writer > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Lib0WriterGuideSimple.png > > > > Calc > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Lib0CalcGuideSimple.png > > > > Math > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Lib0MathGuideSimple.png > > > > Did not push the source files for the moment, but they are separate > > files also. > > > > Thanks it for now, > > > Thanks, Drew! Great start. BTW, Impress and Draw guides are coming > soon. ;-) > > Comments: > (1) I like the icon-like symbols below the name of the guide, although > the one for Writer seems a bit lurid with the blue against the green > background. > (2) I would prefer the name of the guide to be a lot larger, though > perhaps that's not necessary with the symbols. Will be interested to > hear others' reactions. > (3) I don't envision using these as title pages on individual published > chapters, but only on covers of compiled books. However, a lower-res > (and thus much smaller file size) version might work for chapters. Yes - I thought about the lower res version for chapters - I would generate each of the different graphics at say 90dpi and the the final at same, and a much higher compression rate on the final. > Something for the docs team to think about! And here is a slight variation of the Writer Guide cover then, with an eye to your comments: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Lib0WriterGuideSimple.png //drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] [VI] Cover design for printed LibreOffice user guides
On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 16:32 -0400, drew wrote: > On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 04:03 -0400, drew wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-06-16 at 12:19 +0200, Bernhard Dippold wrote: > > > Hi Jean, all, > > > > > > Jean Hollis Weber schrieb: > > > > On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 08:14 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > > > >> On Sat, 2011-05-21 at 16:35 +0200, Bernhard Dippold wrote: > > > >>> [...] > > > A very simple start: > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:GettingStartedGuideFrontCoverSimple.png > > > > Note I dropped in a sub-title, in this case for Chapter 1. I did not use > > a very high compression setting on the PNG file, as this is for an > > example. > > > > Jean had asked for a GIMP compatible file and the wiki will not > > accept .xcf files, so wrapped that in a zip file, here: > > > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:GettingStartedGuideFrontCoverSimple.zip > > > > As I say - it is quite simple. > > > > Staying with the KISS principle: > > Took the simple file, above, as the base, then adorning with graphical > element for the specific guide. > > With the graphic would go where the sub-title is in the example. > > Sound reasonable? > > Alright - I see 4 guides that need covers. > > Getting Started > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Lib0GettingStartedGuideSimple.png > > Writer > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Lib0WriterGuideSimple.png > > Calc > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Lib0CalcGuideSimple.png > > Math > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Lib0MathGuideSimple.png > > Did not push the source files for the moment, but they are separate > files also. > > Thanks it for now, Thanks, Drew! Great start. BTW, Impress and Draw guides are coming soon. ;-) Comments: (1) I like the icon-like symbols below the name of the guide, although the one for Writer seems a bit lurid with the blue against the green background. (2) I would prefer the name of the guide to be a lot larger, though perhaps that's not necessary with the symbols. Will be interested to hear others' reactions. (3) I don't envision using these as title pages on individual published chapters, but only on covers of compiled books. However, a lower-res (and thus much smaller file size) version might work for chapters. Something for the docs team to think about! If I can find time, I'll play around with the xcf and see if I can come up with a variation. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] [VI] Cover design for printed LibreOffice user guides
On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 04:03 -0400, drew wrote: > On Thu, 2011-06-16 at 12:19 +0200, Bernhard Dippold wrote: > > Hi Jean, all, > > > > Jean Hollis Weber schrieb: > > > On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 08:14 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > > >> On Sat, 2011-05-21 at 16:35 +0200, Bernhard Dippold wrote: > > >>> [...] > A very simple start: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:GettingStartedGuideFrontCoverSimple.png > > Note I dropped in a sub-title, in this case for Chapter 1. I did not use > a very high compression setting on the PNG file, as this is for an > example. > > Jean had asked for a GIMP compatible file and the wiki will not > accept .xcf files, so wrapped that in a zip file, here: > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:GettingStartedGuideFrontCoverSimple.zip > > As I say - it is quite simple. > Staying with the KISS principle: Took the simple file, above, as the base, then adorning with graphical element for the specific guide. With the graphic would go where the sub-title is in the example. Sound reasonable? Alright - I see 4 guides that need covers. Getting Started http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Lib0GettingStartedGuideSimple.png Writer http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Lib0WriterGuideSimple.png Calc http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Lib0CalcGuideSimple.png Math http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Lib0MathGuideSimple.png Did not push the source files for the moment, but they are separate files also. Thanks it for now, //drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
