Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-05-08 Thread Mike Saunders
Hi Jan,

On 05/05/2017 17:56, jan wrote:
> 
> Is the code on github? I would like to do some minor adjustments in the
> CSS so that the margins and cross browser styles are improved.

Great, thanks for offering to help! It's not on GitHub but the CSS is
inside https://www.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/donate-newdesign.html
so if you take that file, modify it and send it back to me, I'll upload
it again.

Cheers,
Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-05-05 Thread jan
Hi Mike,

Thanks!

Is the code on github? I would like to do some minor adjustments in the
CSS so that the margins and cross browser styles are improved.

Jan

Am 04.05.2017 um 16:17 schrieb Mike Saunders:
> Hi Jan,
> 
> Just to let you know that I've finally had time to work on a HTML and
> CSS version of this:
> 
> https://www.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/donate-newdesign.html
> 
> It's not quite as pretty as your mockup, but I think most of the content
> is there and this implementation doesn't use JavaScript which is a bonus.
> 
> We'll look at implementing it into the main donate page now.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike
> 
> 
> On 22/04/2017 14:49, jan wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is there progress on this issue and/or anything I could help with?
>> Or has it been stalled?
>>
>> Jan


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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-05-04 Thread Mike Saunders
Hi Jan,

Just to let you know that I've finally had time to work on a HTML and
CSS version of this:

https://www.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/donate-newdesign.html

It's not quite as pretty as your mockup, but I think most of the content
is there and this implementation doesn't use JavaScript which is a bonus.

We'll look at implementing it into the main donate page now.

Thanks,
Mike


On 22/04/2017 14:49, jan wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Is there progress on this issue and/or anything I could help with?
> Or has it been stalled?
> 
> Jan

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-04-24 Thread Mike Saunders
Hi Jan,

On 22/04/2017 14:49, jan wrote:
> 
> Is there progress on this issue and/or anything I could help with?
> Or has it been stalled?

I was on vacation last week (and working on the Annual Report before
that) so I haven't had much time to progress with it. Plus, I only have
limited HTML and CSS skills so it might take me a while to turn the
mockup into a real design.

In the meantime, if anyone else knows their way around HTML and CSS and
wants to contribute an implementation of http://imgur.com/a/zyPNq --
that would be great!

Cheers,
Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-04-22 Thread jan
Hi,

Is there progress on this issue and/or anything I could help with?
Or has it been stalled?

Jan

Am 03.04.2017 um 13:22 schrieb Mike Saunders:
> Hi Jan, Heiko,
> 
> Firstly Jan, thanks a lot for your mockups! Great work.
> 
> On 02/04/2017 20:50, jan wrote:
>>
>> Based on Heikos ideas (or at least how I understood them)
>> here a super simple version: http://imgur.com/a/jxYK7
> 
> I like that, and the previous (slightly more complex version). Note that
> there are a few things we do need to keep in the design, namely:
> 
> 1) "(currencies marked with * are also available via PayPal)" - or we
> disable PayPal when certain currencies are checked, but that may be
> confusing without an explanation
> 
> 2) Yearly/quarterly/monthly recurring payment options - at least at the
> start, while we do our testing. This could be a drop-down box.
> 
> 3) The text saying why it's important to donate (like in
> http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj and my mockup). We could, of course, put it
> above the donate box itself.
> 
> So a compromise between http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj and the simpler design
> would make the most sense, I feel. Thanks again Jan for your work!
> 
> Mike
> 


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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-04-04 Thread jan
Hi,

To get the grasp of it I recreated a version similar to yours, using the
elements I already had:

imgur.com/a/XxFhK

I find it nice that it reads more natural ("once 10€");
I found it to need more space vertically than the other version in order
to make the grouping of the steps clear.

Which performs better could be a good question for an AB-test.

Jan


Am 03.04.2017 um 20:11 schrieb Anxhelo Lushka:
> Hi, I also made a version that I think might be easier for the user to
> go through
> 
> http://imgur.com/AQQXLRQ
> 
> Opinions are welcome :)
> 
> 
> On 04/03/2017 07:30 PM, jan wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Next iteration: http://imgur.com/a/zyPNq
>>
>> 1) PayPal/Currencies: The button will gray out and have "No Paypal for
>> selected Currency" on it. (Font needs to be a bit smaller, but it works)
>> Note, that the PayPal Button swapped place with credit card so it aligns
>> with the currency dropdown, so the connection is (hopefully) clear.
>>
>> 2) Repeated Donations: I added a dropdown.
>>
>> 3) Text was added
>>
>> Jan
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 03.04.2017 um 13:22 schrieb Mike Saunders:
>>> Hi Jan, Heiko,
>>>
>>> Firstly Jan, thanks a lot for your mockups! Great work.
>>>
>>> On 02/04/2017 20:50, jan wrote:
 Based on Heikos ideas (or at least how I understood them)
 here a super simple version: http://imgur.com/a/jxYK7
>>> I like that, and the previous (slightly more complex version). Note that
>>> there are a few things we do need to keep in the design, namely:
>>>
>>> 1) "(currencies marked with * are also available via PayPal)" - or we
>>> disable PayPal when certain currencies are checked, but that may be
>>> confusing without an explanation
>>>
>>> 2) Yearly/quarterly/monthly recurring payment options - at least at the
>>> start, while we do our testing. This could be a drop-down box.
>>>
>>> 3) The text saying why it's important to donate (like in
>>> http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj and my mockup). We could, of course, put it
>>> above the donate box itself.
>>>
>>> So a compromise between http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj and the simpler design
>>> would make the most sense, I feel. Thanks again Jan for your work!
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>
> 
> 


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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-04-03 Thread kainz.a
Please be carefull with different colors. Green, black and different gray
colors.

Am 03.04.2017 22:12 schrieb "jan" :

> Am 03.04.2017 um 20:12 schrieb Mike Saunders:
>
> > IMO that looks really good! What have you used to make this design? Is
> > there any HTML / CSS behind it right now, or is it just a mock-up?
>
> Thanks! I created it in Inkscape, but it should not be too hard to
> translate it to a webdesign. It will need some knowledge of CSS3.
>
> Jan
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-04-03 Thread jan
Am 03.04.2017 um 20:12 schrieb Mike Saunders:

> IMO that looks really good! What have you used to make this design? Is
> there any HTML / CSS behind it right now, or is it just a mock-up?

Thanks! I created it in Inkscape, but it should not be too hard to
translate it to a webdesign. It will need some knowledge of CSS3.

Jan


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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-04-03 Thread Mike Saunders
Hi Jan,

On 03/04/2017 19:30, jan wrote:
> 
> Next iteration: http://imgur.com/a/zyPNq

IMO that looks really good! What have you used to make this design? Is
there any HTML / CSS behind it right now, or is it just a mock-up?

Thanks for your help!

Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-04-03 Thread Anxhelo Lushka
Hi, I also made a version that I think might be easier for the user to
go through

http://imgur.com/AQQXLRQ

Opinions are welcome :)


On 04/03/2017 07:30 PM, jan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Next iteration: http://imgur.com/a/zyPNq
>
> 1) PayPal/Currencies: The button will gray out and have "No Paypal for
> selected Currency" on it. (Font needs to be a bit smaller, but it works)
> Note, that the PayPal Button swapped place with credit card so it aligns
> with the currency dropdown, so the connection is (hopefully) clear.
>
> 2) Repeated Donations: I added a dropdown.
>
> 3) Text was added
>
> Jan
>
>
>
> Am 03.04.2017 um 13:22 schrieb Mike Saunders:
>> Hi Jan, Heiko,
>>
>> Firstly Jan, thanks a lot for your mockups! Great work.
>>
>> On 02/04/2017 20:50, jan wrote:
>>> Based on Heikos ideas (or at least how I understood them)
>>> here a super simple version: http://imgur.com/a/jxYK7
>> I like that, and the previous (slightly more complex version). Note that
>> there are a few things we do need to keep in the design, namely:
>>
>> 1) "(currencies marked with * are also available via PayPal)" - or we
>> disable PayPal when certain currencies are checked, but that may be
>> confusing without an explanation
>>
>> 2) Yearly/quarterly/monthly recurring payment options - at least at the
>> start, while we do our testing. This could be a drop-down box.
>>
>> 3) The text saying why it's important to donate (like in
>> http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj and my mockup). We could, of course, put it
>> above the donate box itself.
>>
>> So a compromise between http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj and the simpler design
>> would make the most sense, I feel. Thanks again Jan for your work!
>>
>> Mike
>>
>


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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-04-03 Thread jan
Hi,

Next iteration: http://imgur.com/a/zyPNq

1) PayPal/Currencies: The button will gray out and have "No Paypal for
selected Currency" on it. (Font needs to be a bit smaller, but it works)
Note, that the PayPal Button swapped place with credit card so it aligns
with the currency dropdown, so the connection is (hopefully) clear.

2) Repeated Donations: I added a dropdown.

3) Text was added

Jan



Am 03.04.2017 um 13:22 schrieb Mike Saunders:
> Hi Jan, Heiko,
> 
> Firstly Jan, thanks a lot for your mockups! Great work.
> 
> On 02/04/2017 20:50, jan wrote:
>>
>> Based on Heikos ideas (or at least how I understood them)
>> here a super simple version: http://imgur.com/a/jxYK7
> 
> I like that, and the previous (slightly more complex version). Note that
> there are a few things we do need to keep in the design, namely:
> 
> 1) "(currencies marked with * are also available via PayPal)" - or we
> disable PayPal when certain currencies are checked, but that may be
> confusing without an explanation
> 
> 2) Yearly/quarterly/monthly recurring payment options - at least at the
> start, while we do our testing. This could be a drop-down box.
> 
> 3) The text saying why it's important to donate (like in
> http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj and my mockup). We could, of course, put it
> above the donate box itself.
> 
> So a compromise between http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj and the simpler design
> would make the most sense, I feel. Thanks again Jan for your work!
> 
> Mike
> 


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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-04-03 Thread Mike Saunders
Hi Jan, Heiko,

Firstly Jan, thanks a lot for your mockups! Great work.

On 02/04/2017 20:50, jan wrote:
>
> Based on Heikos ideas (or at least how I understood them)
> here a super simple version: http://imgur.com/a/jxYK7

I like that, and the previous (slightly more complex version). Note that
there are a few things we do need to keep in the design, namely:

1) "(currencies marked with * are also available via PayPal)" - or we
disable PayPal when certain currencies are checked, but that may be
confusing without an explanation

2) Yearly/quarterly/monthly recurring payment options - at least at the
start, while we do our testing. This could be a drop-down box.

3) The text saying why it's important to donate (like in
http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj and my mockup). We could, of course, put it
above the donate box itself.

So a compromise between http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj and the simpler design
would make the most sense, I feel. Thanks again Jan for your work!

Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-04-02 Thread Heiko Tietze
A/B test, great idea. We have a contact at the university of Vienna (and Berlin 
too, but that's another story) who were interested in testing ideas. It's 
Andreas' contact, so what do you think?

PS: It's so obvious that this test likely has been done several times.

On 04/02/2017 09:52 PM, jan wrote:
> I like the dropdown idea, and we should carefully AB test the "minimal"
> design with the one that has all the preset controls, since the latter
> is pretty similar to  what Wikimedias and Mozillas forms do (at least
> Wikimedias raises a lot, but let's see, maybe the simple approach fares
> better!)
> 
> Jan
> 
> 
> Am 02.04.2017 um 21:45 schrieb Heiko Tietze:
>> Exactly like this. The "monthly" could be a dropdown with (weekly), 
>> quarterly, yearly etc. Just for discussion.
>> @Mike: CC @marketing?
>>
>> On 04/02/2017 08:50 PM, jan wrote:
>>> Based on Heikos ideas (or at least how I understood them)
>>> here a super simple version: http://imgur.com/a/jxYK7
>>>
>>> Jan
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 02.04.2017 um 17:26 schrieb Heiko Tietze:
 Big plus for the easy to recognize links. Other than that we should
 consider to make it even more simple. No recurring transaction, one
 input field with 10 as default, and next to it the currency. And a less
 blatant font (if you are at this page the disclaimer on top is way too
 much info).
 Many thanks for your mockup, Jan!

 On April 2, 2017 4:50:32 PM GMT+02:00, jan  
 wrote:

 Hi Mike,

 Here an updated proposal design-wise:

  http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj

 (it should be easy enough to implement in its basic form. Some added
 Javascrip-foo will make it easier to use)

 Notes:

 * I integrated most like Jan suggested, on one page

 * I ditched the "robot"-captcha. It is easy to reintegrate, but as long
 as we are not sure we really need it, I would not use it, since it can
 slow the process of donating down.

 * I suggest the eMail field should come after the donation has been
 finished, so we don’t create the impression that you need to enter your
 mail to donate (and we can add information on why the mail may be
 entered without cluttering the mail donation form)
 If we really need it on the first page, we can integrate it there, 
 though.

 Kind Regards,
  Jan


 Am 31.03.2017 um 14:48 schrieb Mike Saunders:

 Hi Jan,

 On 30/03/2017 23:08, jan wrote:


 1) What is the "I'm not a robot" for?


 That's a captcha -- it's in the current donate process so I
 thought I'd
 keep it in. (I don't know the exact reason it was added 
 originally.)

 2) What is asking for the mail address for? (I would like to
 know about
 is for the design, but I think the users want to know, too)


 It's for getting a confirmation / thank-you mail from TDF once the
 donation is complete. I could add some text to mention that...

 Mike



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>>>
>>
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-04-02 Thread jan
I like the dropdown idea, and we should carefully AB test the "minimal"
design with the one that has all the preset controls, since the latter
is pretty similar to  what Wikimedias and Mozillas forms do (at least
Wikimedias raises a lot, but let's see, maybe the simple approach fares
better!)

Jan


Am 02.04.2017 um 21:45 schrieb Heiko Tietze:
> Exactly like this. The "monthly" could be a dropdown with (weekly), 
> quarterly, yearly etc. Just for discussion.
> @Mike: CC @marketing?
> 
> On 04/02/2017 08:50 PM, jan wrote:
>> Based on Heikos ideas (or at least how I understood them)
>> here a super simple version: http://imgur.com/a/jxYK7
>>
>> Jan
>>
>>
>> Am 02.04.2017 um 17:26 schrieb Heiko Tietze:
>>> Big plus for the easy to recognize links. Other than that we should
>>> consider to make it even more simple. No recurring transaction, one
>>> input field with 10 as default, and next to it the currency. And a less
>>> blatant font (if you are at this page the disclaimer on top is way too
>>> much info).
>>> Many thanks for your mockup, Jan!
>>>
>>> On April 2, 2017 4:50:32 PM GMT+02:00, jan  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> Here an updated proposal design-wise:
>>>
>>>  http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj
>>>
>>> (it should be easy enough to implement in its basic form. Some added
>>> Javascrip-foo will make it easier to use)
>>>
>>> Notes:
>>>
>>> * I integrated most like Jan suggested, on one page
>>>
>>> * I ditched the "robot"-captcha. It is easy to reintegrate, but as long
>>> as we are not sure we really need it, I would not use it, since it can
>>> slow the process of donating down.
>>>
>>> * I suggest the eMail field should come after the donation has been
>>> finished, so we don’t create the impression that you need to enter your
>>> mail to donate (and we can add information on why the mail may be
>>> entered without cluttering the mail donation form)
>>> If we really need it on the first page, we can integrate it there, 
>>> though.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>  Jan
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 31.03.2017 um 14:48 schrieb Mike Saunders:
>>>
>>> Hi Jan,
>>>
>>> On 30/03/2017 23:08, jan wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> 1) What is the "I'm not a robot" for?
>>>
>>>
>>> That's a captcha -- it's in the current donate process so I
>>> thought I'd
>>> keep it in. (I don't know the exact reason it was added originally.)
>>>
>>> 2) What is asking for the mail address for? (I would like to
>>> know about
>>> is for the design, but I think the users want to know, too)
>>>
>>>
>>> It's for getting a confirmation / thank-you mail from TDF once the
>>> donation is complete. I could add some text to mention that...
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>
> 


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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-04-02 Thread Heiko Tietze
Exactly like this. The "monthly" could be a dropdown with (weekly), quarterly, 
yearly etc. Just for discussion.
@Mike: CC @marketing?

On 04/02/2017 08:50 PM, jan wrote:
> Based on Heikos ideas (or at least how I understood them)
> here a super simple version: http://imgur.com/a/jxYK7
> 
> Jan
> 
> 
> Am 02.04.2017 um 17:26 schrieb Heiko Tietze:
>> Big plus for the easy to recognize links. Other than that we should
>> consider to make it even more simple. No recurring transaction, one
>> input field with 10 as default, and next to it the currency. And a less
>> blatant font (if you are at this page the disclaimer on top is way too
>> much info).
>> Many thanks for your mockup, Jan!
>>
>> On April 2, 2017 4:50:32 PM GMT+02:00, jan  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Here an updated proposal design-wise:
>>
>>  http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj
>>
>> (it should be easy enough to implement in its basic form. Some added
>> Javascrip-foo will make it easier to use)
>>
>> Notes:
>>
>> * I integrated most like Jan suggested, on one page
>>
>> * I ditched the "robot"-captcha. It is easy to reintegrate, but as long
>> as we are not sure we really need it, I would not use it, since it can
>> slow the process of donating down.
>>
>> * I suggest the eMail field should come after the donation has been
>> finished, so we don’t create the impression that you need to enter your
>> mail to donate (and we can add information on why the mail may be
>> entered without cluttering the mail donation form)
>> If we really need it on the first page, we can integrate it there, 
>> though.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>  Jan
>>
>>
>> Am 31.03.2017 um 14:48 schrieb Mike Saunders:
>>
>> Hi Jan,
>>
>> On 30/03/2017 23:08, jan wrote:
>>
>>
>> 1) What is the "I'm not a robot" for?
>>
>>
>> That's a captcha -- it's in the current donate process so I
>> thought I'd
>> keep it in. (I don't know the exact reason it was added originally.)
>>
>> 2) What is asking for the mail address for? (I would like to
>> know about
>> is for the design, but I think the users want to know, too)
>>
>>
>> It's for getting a confirmation / thank-you mail from TDF once the
>> donation is complete. I could add some text to mention that...
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-04-02 Thread jan
Will this actually replace the current Interface of
http://donate.libreoffice.org/?

Jan


Am 31.03.2017 um 14:48 schrieb Mike Saunders:
> Hi Jan,
> 
> On 30/03/2017 23:08, jan wrote:
>>
>> 1) What is the "I'm not a robot" for?
> 
> That's a captcha -- it's in the current donate process so I thought I'd
> keep it in. (I don't know the exact reason it was added originally.)
> 
>> 2) What is asking for the mail address for? (I would like to know about
>> is for the design, but I think the users want to know, too)
> 
> It's for getting a confirmation / thank-you mail from TDF once the
> donation is complete. I could add some text to mention that...
> 
> Mike
> 


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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-04-02 Thread jan
Based on Heikos ideas (or at least how I understood them)
here a super simple version: http://imgur.com/a/jxYK7

Jan


Am 02.04.2017 um 17:26 schrieb Heiko Tietze:
> Big plus for the easy to recognize links. Other than that we should
> consider to make it even more simple. No recurring transaction, one
> input field with 10 as default, and next to it the currency. And a less
> blatant font (if you are at this page the disclaimer on top is way too
> much info).
> Many thanks for your mockup, Jan!
> 
> On April 2, 2017 4:50:32 PM GMT+02:00, jan  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> Here an updated proposal design-wise:
> 
>  http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj
> 
> (it should be easy enough to implement in its basic form. Some added
> Javascrip-foo will make it easier to use)
> 
> Notes:
> 
> * I integrated most like Jan suggested, on one page
> 
> * I ditched the "robot"-captcha. It is easy to reintegrate, but as long
> as we are not sure we really need it, I would not use it, since it can
> slow the process of donating down.
> 
> * I suggest the eMail field should come after the donation has been
> finished, so we don’t create the impression that you need to enter your
> mail to donate (and we can add information on why the mail may be
> entered without cluttering the mail donation form)
> If we really need it on the first page, we can integrate it there, though.
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  Jan
> 
> 
> Am 31.03.2017 um 14:48 schrieb Mike Saunders:
> 
> Hi Jan,
> 
> On 30/03/2017 23:08, jan wrote:
> 
> 
> 1) What is the "I'm not a robot" for?
> 
> 
> That's a captcha -- it's in the current donate process so I
> thought I'd
> keep it in. (I don't know the exact reason it was added originally.)
> 
> 2) What is asking for the mail address for? (I would like to
> know about
> is for the design, but I think the users want to know, too)
> 
> 
> It's for getting a confirmation / thank-you mail from TDF once the
> donation is complete. I could add some text to mention that...
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-04-02 Thread Heiko Tietze
Big plus for the easy to recognize links. Other than that we should consider to 
make it even more simple. No recurring transaction, one input field with 10 as 
default, and next to it the currency. And a less blatant font (if you are at 
this page the disclaimer on top is way too much info).
Many thanks for your mockup, Jan!

On April 2, 2017 4:50:32 PM GMT+02:00, jan  wrote:
>Hi Mike,
>
>Here an updated proposal design-wise:
>
>   http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj
>
>(it should be easy enough to implement in its basic form. Some added
>Javascrip-foo will make it easier to use)
>
>Notes:
>
>* I integrated most like Jan suggested, on one page
>
>* I ditched the "robot"-captcha. It is easy to reintegrate, but as long
>as we are not sure we really need it, I would not use it, since it can
>slow the process of donating down.
>
>* I suggest the eMail field should come after the donation has been
>finished, so we don’t create the impression that you need to enter your
>mail to donate (and we can add information on why the mail may be
>entered without cluttering the mail donation form)
>If we really need it on the first page, we can integrate it there,
>though.
>
>Kind Regards,
> Jan
>
>
>Am 31.03.2017 um 14:48 schrieb Mike Saunders:
>> Hi Jan,
>> 
>> On 30/03/2017 23:08, jan wrote:
>>>
>>> 1) What is the "I'm not a robot" for?
>> 
>> That's a captcha -- it's in the current donate process so I thought
>I'd
>> keep it in. (I don't know the exact reason it was added originally.)
>> 
>>> 2) What is asking for the mail address for? (I would like to know
>about
>>> is for the design, but I think the users want to know, too)
>> 
>> It's for getting a confirmation / thank-you mail from TDF once the
>> donation is complete. I could add some text to mention that...
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-04-02 Thread jan
Hi Mike,

Here an updated proposal design-wise:

http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj

(it should be easy enough to implement in its basic form. Some added
Javascrip-foo will make it easier to use)

Notes:

* I integrated most like Jan suggested, on one page

* I ditched the "robot"-captcha. It is easy to reintegrate, but as long
as we are not sure we really need it, I would not use it, since it can
slow the process of donating down.

* I suggest the eMail field should come after the donation has been
finished, so we don’t create the impression that you need to enter your
mail to donate (and we can add information on why the mail may be
entered without cluttering the mail donation form)
If we really need it on the first page, we can integrate it there, though.

Kind Regards,
 Jan


Am 31.03.2017 um 14:48 schrieb Mike Saunders:
> Hi Jan,
> 
> On 30/03/2017 23:08, jan wrote:
>>
>> 1) What is the "I'm not a robot" for?
> 
> That's a captcha -- it's in the current donate process so I thought I'd
> keep it in. (I don't know the exact reason it was added originally.)
> 
>> 2) What is asking for the mail address for? (I would like to know about
>> is for the design, but I think the users want to know, too)
> 
> It's for getting a confirmation / thank-you mail from TDF once the
> donation is complete. I could add some text to mention that...
> 
> Mike
> 


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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-03-31 Thread Mike Saunders
Hi Jan,

On 30/03/2017 23:08, jan wrote:
> 
> 1) What is the "I'm not a robot" for?

That's a captcha -- it's in the current donate process so I thought I'd
keep it in. (I don't know the exact reason it was added originally.)

> 2) What is asking for the mail address for? (I would like to know about
> is for the design, but I think the users want to know, too)

It's for getting a confirmation / thank-you mail from TDF once the
donation is complete. I could add some text to mention that...

Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-03-30 Thread jan
Am 29.03.2017 um 18:25 schrieb Jan Holesovsky:

> + if we cannot do recurring payments with credit cards, just disable
>   the "pay by credit card" button for the non-One-time payments

Can we do this? (we would need to runs a snippet of Javascript, I assume)

> * the "I'm not a robot" and "Your email address" can easily fit the 1st
>   page too I think?

Agree, we should do so. And also:

1) What is the "I'm not a robot" for?
2) What is asking for the mail address for? (I would like to know about
is for the design, but I think the users want to know, too)

Jan


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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-03-30 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Mike,

Mike Saunders píše v Čt 30. 03. 2017 v 15:49 +0200:

> Yes, that's the plan. Once we have a design we're happy with, Cloph will
> add it to Silverstripe and implement A/B testing to see how it works
> (and also with default donation values).

Awesome - thank you so much for driving this!

All the best,
Kendy


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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-03-30 Thread Mike Saunders
Hi Jan,

On 29/03/2017 18:25, Jan Holesovsky wrote:
> 
> If we combine the two, I think we have the ideal workflow here - the
> only choice the user has to do is "do I want to pay with a card or with
> Paypal"?
> 
> So - can you please remove the 2nd screen

Sure, I can try combining them both into a single screen. I'm in
training early next week so it may take a few days -- but as I mentioned
before on the list, if anyone else wants to jump in,
go ahead :-)

> Indeed - so I hope we are going to A/B test the new design to compare
> against the old one? :-)

Yes, that's the plan. Once we have a design we're happy with, Cloph will
add it to Silverstripe and implement A/B testing to see how it works
(and also with default donation values).

Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-03-29 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Mike,

Mike Saunders píše v St 29. 03. 2017 v 13:01 +0200:
 
> > It seems to be best practice (at least looking at Wikimedia and Mozilla)
> > to combine the "next" button with the choice of payment
> > (https://donate.mozilla.org/en-US/)
> > 
> > Could this be done here, too, or can we only pass the amount on to
> > SilverStripe?
> 
> I'm not sure about that to be honest -- I know very little about
> SilverStripe.

So there are things I like about the Mozilla's approach, and things I
like about your approach :-)

What I like about the Mozilla's approach is that all the choices are
accumulated at one place, with a clear "press here to get this done".

What I like about your approach is that you pre-select the amount for
the user (Mozilla instead warns you when you press the button without
choosing 

If we combine the two, I think we have the ideal workflow here - the
only choice the user has to do is "do I want to pay with a card or with
Paypal"?

So - can you please remove the 2nd screen, and instead:

* use radio buttons One time / Monthly [and maybe Quarterly / Yearly -
  if we really want them there] directly on the 1st screen

+ if we cannot do recurring payments with credit cards, just disable
  the "pay by credit card" button for the non-One-time payments

* the "I'm not a robot" and "Your email address" can easily fit the 1st
  page too I think?

> > Also, can we run Javascript to enable/disable inputs or show Icons –
> > e.g. a blue PayPal logo if PP is availiable for the choosen currency and
> > a grayed out version of the logo, if PP it is not? (just to give an example)
> > 
> > I got some rough draft (https://postimg.org/image/5oe3x1ucj/) and the
> > direction depends a bit on above questions.
> 
> That looks good! I'm not a web designer so all I know is basic HTML and
> CSS, and our current donate page is rather old so I came up with my
> mockup. (Hence why it's not responsive to different dimensions as well).

I hope that if you just avoid hardcoding dimensions, all should be fine?
But something should be there, on the 2nd page, the "Quarterly" does not
fit the button; and with translations this is going to be even worse.

> If someone wants to take the idea and improve it like in your draft,
> however, that'd be great! It's obviously something we want to get right,
> as it's a big source of income for TDF and the community...

Indeed - so I hope we are going to A/B test the new design to compare
against the old one? :-)

All the best,
Kendy


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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-03-29 Thread Mike Saunders
Hi Jan,

On 28/03/2017 21:37, jan wrote:
> 
> It seems to be best practice (at least looking at Wikimedia and Mozilla)
> to combine the "next" button with the choice of payment
> (https://donate.mozilla.org/en-US/)
> 
> Could this be done here, too, or can we only pass the amount on to
> SilverStripe?

I'm not sure about that to be honest -- I know very little about
SilverStripe.

> Also, can we run Javascript to enable/disable inputs or show Icons –
> e.g. a blue PayPal logo if PP is availiable for the choosen currency and
> a grayed out version of the logo, if PP it is not? (just to give an example)
> 
> I got some rough draft (https://postimg.org/image/5oe3x1ucj/) and the
> direction depends a bit on above questions.

That looks good! I'm not a web designer so all I know is basic HTML and
CSS, and our current donate page is rather old so I came up with my
mockup. (Hence why it's not responsive to different dimensions as well).

If someone wants to take the idea and improve it like in your draft,
however, that'd be great! It's obviously something we want to get right,
as it's a big source of income for TDF and the community...

Cheers,
Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-03-28 Thread jan
…one thing I forgot to ask: Is the width of the donate box fixed or can
it vary (in particular concerning mobile devices)

Jan

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-03-28 Thread jan
Hi Mike,

It seems to be best practice (at least looking at Wikimedia and Mozilla)
to combine the "next" button with the choice of payment
(https://donate.mozilla.org/en-US/)

Could this be done here, too, or can we only pass the amount on to
SilverStripe?

Also, can we run Javascript to enable/disable inputs or show Icons –
e.g. a blue PayPal logo if PP is availiable for the choosen currency and
a grayed out version of the logo, if PP it is not? (just to give an example)

I got some rough draft (https://postimg.org/image/5oe3x1ucj/) and the
direction depends a bit on above questions.

Jan


Am 28.03.2017 um 13:04 schrieb Mike Saunders:
> Hi Jan,
> 
> On 27/03/2017 19:03, jan wrote:
>>
>> Are you interested in Usability feedback on the form or are you purely
>> interested in colors/fonts?
> 
> If there's anything you think we can improve without starting from
> scratch, then yes, that would be useful! Especially if you can do a
> mockup or make changes to the HTML / CSS.
> 
>> Also, is the second page (after clicking next) functional? (I found it a
>> bit confusing, but it might be the case that it is just not finished or
>> working for me)
> 
> Yes, sorry, I should've explained that -- the second page won't do
> anything yet because that will need to be integrated into SilverStripe
> and the donation payment systems.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Mike
> 


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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-03-28 Thread Mike Saunders
Hi Jan,

On 27/03/2017 19:03, jan wrote:
> 
> Are you interested in Usability feedback on the form or are you purely
> interested in colors/fonts?

If there's anything you think we can improve without starting from
scratch, then yes, that would be useful! Especially if you can do a
mockup or make changes to the HTML / CSS.

> Also, is the second page (after clicking next) functional? (I found it a
> bit confusing, but it might be the case that it is just not finished or
> working for me)

Yes, sorry, I should've explained that -- the second page won't do
anything yet because that will need to be integrated into SilverStripe
and the donation payment systems.

Thanks!

Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-03-28 Thread Mike Saunders
Hi Daniel,

On 27/03/2017 17:45, Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote:
>
> Localiation is still possible?

It will be possible to localise it, yes, but I think we should settle on
a final design first before we look at that. Hopefully we'll have that
done within the next few days.

Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-03-27 Thread jan
Hi Mike,

Are you interested in Usability feedback on the form or are you purely
interested in colors/fonts?

Also, is the second page (after clicking next) functional? (I found it a
bit confusing, but it might be the case that it is just not finished or
working for me)

Jan


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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-03-27 Thread Daniel A. Rodriguez
Localiation is still possible?

El 27 mar. 2017 11:45 AM, "V Stuart Foote" 
escribió:

> Mike, *
>
> Tested on FF, IE11, Chrome functions well.
>
> Do we need another green for more contrast/highlight?
>
> Stuart
>
> 
> From: Mike Saunders 
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 9:30 AM
> To: design@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website
> for beautifying
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> We've been working on an updated donate page for the LibreOffice
> website. Here's the result so far (this is the main donate block that
> will be integrated into our SilverStripe CMS):
>
> https://www.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/donate-design-test-1-js.html
>
> We've implemented the features we need and tested it in many browsers,
> but if anyone would like to improve its appearance (eg change colours,
> fonts, add graphics) then go ahead!
>
> We want to make this live quite soon, but there's still time if someone
> wants to work on it.
>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying

2017-03-27 Thread V Stuart Foote
Mike, *

Tested on FF, IE11, Chrome functions well.

Do we need another green for more contrast/highlight?

Stuart


From: Mike Saunders 
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 9:30 AM
To: design@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for 
beautifying

Hi everyone,

We've been working on an updated donate page for the LibreOffice
website. Here's the result so far (this is the main donate block that
will be integrated into our SilverStripe CMS):

https://www.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/donate-design-test-1-js.html

We've implemented the features we need and tested it in many browsers,
but if anyone would like to improve its appearance (eg change colours,
fonts, add graphics) then go ahead!

We want to make this live quite soon, but there's still time if someone
wants to work on it.

Thanks!

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Mike Saunders, Marketing & PR
The Document Foundation

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