Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
Hi Jan, On 05/05/2017 17:56, jan wrote: > > Is the code on github? I would like to do some minor adjustments in the > CSS so that the margins and cross browser styles are improved. Great, thanks for offering to help! It's not on GitHub but the CSS is inside https://www.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/donate-newdesign.html so if you take that file, modify it and send it back to me, I'll upload it again. Cheers, Mike -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
Hi Mike, Thanks! Is the code on github? I would like to do some minor adjustments in the CSS so that the margins and cross browser styles are improved. Jan Am 04.05.2017 um 16:17 schrieb Mike Saunders: > Hi Jan, > > Just to let you know that I've finally had time to work on a HTML and > CSS version of this: > > https://www.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/donate-newdesign.html > > It's not quite as pretty as your mockup, but I think most of the content > is there and this implementation doesn't use JavaScript which is a bonus. > > We'll look at implementing it into the main donate page now. > > Thanks, > Mike > > > On 22/04/2017 14:49, jan wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Is there progress on this issue and/or anything I could help with? >> Or has it been stalled? >> >> Jan -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
Hi Jan, Just to let you know that I've finally had time to work on a HTML and CSS version of this: https://www.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/donate-newdesign.html It's not quite as pretty as your mockup, but I think most of the content is there and this implementation doesn't use JavaScript which is a bonus. We'll look at implementing it into the main donate page now. Thanks, Mike On 22/04/2017 14:49, jan wrote: > Hi, > > Is there progress on this issue and/or anything I could help with? > Or has it been stalled? > > Jan -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
Hi Jan, On 22/04/2017 14:49, jan wrote: > > Is there progress on this issue and/or anything I could help with? > Or has it been stalled? I was on vacation last week (and working on the Annual Report before that) so I haven't had much time to progress with it. Plus, I only have limited HTML and CSS skills so it might take me a while to turn the mockup into a real design. In the meantime, if anyone else knows their way around HTML and CSS and wants to contribute an implementation of http://imgur.com/a/zyPNq -- that would be great! Cheers, Mike -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
Hi, Is there progress on this issue and/or anything I could help with? Or has it been stalled? Jan Am 03.04.2017 um 13:22 schrieb Mike Saunders: > Hi Jan, Heiko, > > Firstly Jan, thanks a lot for your mockups! Great work. > > On 02/04/2017 20:50, jan wrote: >> >> Based on Heikos ideas (or at least how I understood them) >> here a super simple version: http://imgur.com/a/jxYK7 > > I like that, and the previous (slightly more complex version). Note that > there are a few things we do need to keep in the design, namely: > > 1) "(currencies marked with * are also available via PayPal)" - or we > disable PayPal when certain currencies are checked, but that may be > confusing without an explanation > > 2) Yearly/quarterly/monthly recurring payment options - at least at the > start, while we do our testing. This could be a drop-down box. > > 3) The text saying why it's important to donate (like in > http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj and my mockup). We could, of course, put it > above the donate box itself. > > So a compromise between http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj and the simpler design > would make the most sense, I feel. Thanks again Jan for your work! > > Mike > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
Hi, To get the grasp of it I recreated a version similar to yours, using the elements I already had: imgur.com/a/XxFhK I find it nice that it reads more natural ("once 10€"); I found it to need more space vertically than the other version in order to make the grouping of the steps clear. Which performs better could be a good question for an AB-test. Jan Am 03.04.2017 um 20:11 schrieb Anxhelo Lushka: > Hi, I also made a version that I think might be easier for the user to > go through > > http://imgur.com/AQQXLRQ > > Opinions are welcome :) > > > On 04/03/2017 07:30 PM, jan wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Next iteration: http://imgur.com/a/zyPNq >> >> 1) PayPal/Currencies: The button will gray out and have "No Paypal for >> selected Currency" on it. (Font needs to be a bit smaller, but it works) >> Note, that the PayPal Button swapped place with credit card so it aligns >> with the currency dropdown, so the connection is (hopefully) clear. >> >> 2) Repeated Donations: I added a dropdown. >> >> 3) Text was added >> >> Jan >> >> >> >> Am 03.04.2017 um 13:22 schrieb Mike Saunders: >>> Hi Jan, Heiko, >>> >>> Firstly Jan, thanks a lot for your mockups! Great work. >>> >>> On 02/04/2017 20:50, jan wrote: Based on Heikos ideas (or at least how I understood them) here a super simple version: http://imgur.com/a/jxYK7 >>> I like that, and the previous (slightly more complex version). Note that >>> there are a few things we do need to keep in the design, namely: >>> >>> 1) "(currencies marked with * are also available via PayPal)" - or we >>> disable PayPal when certain currencies are checked, but that may be >>> confusing without an explanation >>> >>> 2) Yearly/quarterly/monthly recurring payment options - at least at the >>> start, while we do our testing. This could be a drop-down box. >>> >>> 3) The text saying why it's important to donate (like in >>> http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj and my mockup). We could, of course, put it >>> above the donate box itself. >>> >>> So a compromise between http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj and the simpler design >>> would make the most sense, I feel. Thanks again Jan for your work! >>> >>> Mike >>> >> > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
Please be carefull with different colors. Green, black and different gray colors. Am 03.04.2017 22:12 schrieb "jan" : > Am 03.04.2017 um 20:12 schrieb Mike Saunders: > > > IMO that looks really good! What have you used to make this design? Is > > there any HTML / CSS behind it right now, or is it just a mock-up? > > Thanks! I created it in Inkscape, but it should not be too hard to > translate it to a webdesign. It will need some knowledge of CSS3. > > Jan > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- > unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
Am 03.04.2017 um 20:12 schrieb Mike Saunders: > IMO that looks really good! What have you used to make this design? Is > there any HTML / CSS behind it right now, or is it just a mock-up? Thanks! I created it in Inkscape, but it should not be too hard to translate it to a webdesign. It will need some knowledge of CSS3. Jan -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
Hi Jan, On 03/04/2017 19:30, jan wrote: > > Next iteration: http://imgur.com/a/zyPNq IMO that looks really good! What have you used to make this design? Is there any HTML / CSS behind it right now, or is it just a mock-up? Thanks for your help! Mike -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
Hi, I also made a version that I think might be easier for the user to go through http://imgur.com/AQQXLRQ Opinions are welcome :) On 04/03/2017 07:30 PM, jan wrote: > Hi, > > Next iteration: http://imgur.com/a/zyPNq > > 1) PayPal/Currencies: The button will gray out and have "No Paypal for > selected Currency" on it. (Font needs to be a bit smaller, but it works) > Note, that the PayPal Button swapped place with credit card so it aligns > with the currency dropdown, so the connection is (hopefully) clear. > > 2) Repeated Donations: I added a dropdown. > > 3) Text was added > > Jan > > > > Am 03.04.2017 um 13:22 schrieb Mike Saunders: >> Hi Jan, Heiko, >> >> Firstly Jan, thanks a lot for your mockups! Great work. >> >> On 02/04/2017 20:50, jan wrote: >>> Based on Heikos ideas (or at least how I understood them) >>> here a super simple version: http://imgur.com/a/jxYK7 >> I like that, and the previous (slightly more complex version). Note that >> there are a few things we do need to keep in the design, namely: >> >> 1) "(currencies marked with * are also available via PayPal)" - or we >> disable PayPal when certain currencies are checked, but that may be >> confusing without an explanation >> >> 2) Yearly/quarterly/monthly recurring payment options - at least at the >> start, while we do our testing. This could be a drop-down box. >> >> 3) The text saying why it's important to donate (like in >> http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj and my mockup). We could, of course, put it >> above the donate box itself. >> >> So a compromise between http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj and the simpler design >> would make the most sense, I feel. Thanks again Jan for your work! >> >> Mike >> > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
Hi, Next iteration: http://imgur.com/a/zyPNq 1) PayPal/Currencies: The button will gray out and have "No Paypal for selected Currency" on it. (Font needs to be a bit smaller, but it works) Note, that the PayPal Button swapped place with credit card so it aligns with the currency dropdown, so the connection is (hopefully) clear. 2) Repeated Donations: I added a dropdown. 3) Text was added Jan Am 03.04.2017 um 13:22 schrieb Mike Saunders: > Hi Jan, Heiko, > > Firstly Jan, thanks a lot for your mockups! Great work. > > On 02/04/2017 20:50, jan wrote: >> >> Based on Heikos ideas (or at least how I understood them) >> here a super simple version: http://imgur.com/a/jxYK7 > > I like that, and the previous (slightly more complex version). Note that > there are a few things we do need to keep in the design, namely: > > 1) "(currencies marked with * are also available via PayPal)" - or we > disable PayPal when certain currencies are checked, but that may be > confusing without an explanation > > 2) Yearly/quarterly/monthly recurring payment options - at least at the > start, while we do our testing. This could be a drop-down box. > > 3) The text saying why it's important to donate (like in > http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj and my mockup). We could, of course, put it > above the donate box itself. > > So a compromise between http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj and the simpler design > would make the most sense, I feel. Thanks again Jan for your work! > > Mike > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
Hi Jan, Heiko, Firstly Jan, thanks a lot for your mockups! Great work. On 02/04/2017 20:50, jan wrote: > > Based on Heikos ideas (or at least how I understood them) > here a super simple version: http://imgur.com/a/jxYK7 I like that, and the previous (slightly more complex version). Note that there are a few things we do need to keep in the design, namely: 1) "(currencies marked with * are also available via PayPal)" - or we disable PayPal when certain currencies are checked, but that may be confusing without an explanation 2) Yearly/quarterly/monthly recurring payment options - at least at the start, while we do our testing. This could be a drop-down box. 3) The text saying why it's important to donate (like in http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj and my mockup). We could, of course, put it above the donate box itself. So a compromise between http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj and the simpler design would make the most sense, I feel. Thanks again Jan for your work! Mike -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
A/B test, great idea. We have a contact at the university of Vienna (and Berlin too, but that's another story) who were interested in testing ideas. It's Andreas' contact, so what do you think? PS: It's so obvious that this test likely has been done several times. On 04/02/2017 09:52 PM, jan wrote: > I like the dropdown idea, and we should carefully AB test the "minimal" > design with the one that has all the preset controls, since the latter > is pretty similar to what Wikimedias and Mozillas forms do (at least > Wikimedias raises a lot, but let's see, maybe the simple approach fares > better!) > > Jan > > > Am 02.04.2017 um 21:45 schrieb Heiko Tietze: >> Exactly like this. The "monthly" could be a dropdown with (weekly), >> quarterly, yearly etc. Just for discussion. >> @Mike: CC @marketing? >> >> On 04/02/2017 08:50 PM, jan wrote: >>> Based on Heikos ideas (or at least how I understood them) >>> here a super simple version: http://imgur.com/a/jxYK7 >>> >>> Jan >>> >>> >>> Am 02.04.2017 um 17:26 schrieb Heiko Tietze: Big plus for the easy to recognize links. Other than that we should consider to make it even more simple. No recurring transaction, one input field with 10 as default, and next to it the currency. And a less blatant font (if you are at this page the disclaimer on top is way too much info). Many thanks for your mockup, Jan! On April 2, 2017 4:50:32 PM GMT+02:00, jan wrote: Hi Mike, Here an updated proposal design-wise: http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj (it should be easy enough to implement in its basic form. Some added Javascrip-foo will make it easier to use) Notes: * I integrated most like Jan suggested, on one page * I ditched the "robot"-captcha. It is easy to reintegrate, but as long as we are not sure we really need it, I would not use it, since it can slow the process of donating down. * I suggest the eMail field should come after the donation has been finished, so we don’t create the impression that you need to enter your mail to donate (and we can add information on why the mail may be entered without cluttering the mail donation form) If we really need it on the first page, we can integrate it there, though. Kind Regards, Jan Am 31.03.2017 um 14:48 schrieb Mike Saunders: Hi Jan, On 30/03/2017 23:08, jan wrote: 1) What is the "I'm not a robot" for? That's a captcha -- it's in the current donate process so I thought I'd keep it in. (I don't know the exact reason it was added originally.) 2) What is asking for the mail address for? (I would like to know about is for the design, but I think the users want to know, too) It's for getting a confirmation / thank-you mail from TDF once the donation is complete. I could add some text to mention that... Mike -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>> >> > -- Dr. Heiko Tietze UX Designer Tel. +49 (0)179/1268509 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
I like the dropdown idea, and we should carefully AB test the "minimal" design with the one that has all the preset controls, since the latter is pretty similar to what Wikimedias and Mozillas forms do (at least Wikimedias raises a lot, but let's see, maybe the simple approach fares better!) Jan Am 02.04.2017 um 21:45 schrieb Heiko Tietze: > Exactly like this. The "monthly" could be a dropdown with (weekly), > quarterly, yearly etc. Just for discussion. > @Mike: CC @marketing? > > On 04/02/2017 08:50 PM, jan wrote: >> Based on Heikos ideas (or at least how I understood them) >> here a super simple version: http://imgur.com/a/jxYK7 >> >> Jan >> >> >> Am 02.04.2017 um 17:26 schrieb Heiko Tietze: >>> Big plus for the easy to recognize links. Other than that we should >>> consider to make it even more simple. No recurring transaction, one >>> input field with 10 as default, and next to it the currency. And a less >>> blatant font (if you are at this page the disclaimer on top is way too >>> much info). >>> Many thanks for your mockup, Jan! >>> >>> On April 2, 2017 4:50:32 PM GMT+02:00, jan wrote: >>> >>> Hi Mike, >>> >>> Here an updated proposal design-wise: >>> >>> http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj >>> >>> (it should be easy enough to implement in its basic form. Some added >>> Javascrip-foo will make it easier to use) >>> >>> Notes: >>> >>> * I integrated most like Jan suggested, on one page >>> >>> * I ditched the "robot"-captcha. It is easy to reintegrate, but as long >>> as we are not sure we really need it, I would not use it, since it can >>> slow the process of donating down. >>> >>> * I suggest the eMail field should come after the donation has been >>> finished, so we don’t create the impression that you need to enter your >>> mail to donate (and we can add information on why the mail may be >>> entered without cluttering the mail donation form) >>> If we really need it on the first page, we can integrate it there, >>> though. >>> >>> Kind Regards, >>> Jan >>> >>> >>> Am 31.03.2017 um 14:48 schrieb Mike Saunders: >>> >>> Hi Jan, >>> >>> On 30/03/2017 23:08, jan wrote: >>> >>> >>> 1) What is the "I'm not a robot" for? >>> >>> >>> That's a captcha -- it's in the current donate process so I >>> thought I'd >>> keep it in. (I don't know the exact reason it was added originally.) >>> >>> 2) What is asking for the mail address for? (I would like to >>> know about >>> is for the design, but I think the users want to know, too) >>> >>> >>> It's for getting a confirmation / thank-you mail from TDF once the >>> donation is complete. I could add some text to mention that... >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
Exactly like this. The "monthly" could be a dropdown with (weekly), quarterly, yearly etc. Just for discussion. @Mike: CC @marketing? On 04/02/2017 08:50 PM, jan wrote: > Based on Heikos ideas (or at least how I understood them) > here a super simple version: http://imgur.com/a/jxYK7 > > Jan > > > Am 02.04.2017 um 17:26 schrieb Heiko Tietze: >> Big plus for the easy to recognize links. Other than that we should >> consider to make it even more simple. No recurring transaction, one >> input field with 10 as default, and next to it the currency. And a less >> blatant font (if you are at this page the disclaimer on top is way too >> much info). >> Many thanks for your mockup, Jan! >> >> On April 2, 2017 4:50:32 PM GMT+02:00, jan wrote: >> >> Hi Mike, >> >> Here an updated proposal design-wise: >> >> http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj >> >> (it should be easy enough to implement in its basic form. Some added >> Javascrip-foo will make it easier to use) >> >> Notes: >> >> * I integrated most like Jan suggested, on one page >> >> * I ditched the "robot"-captcha. It is easy to reintegrate, but as long >> as we are not sure we really need it, I would not use it, since it can >> slow the process of donating down. >> >> * I suggest the eMail field should come after the donation has been >> finished, so we don’t create the impression that you need to enter your >> mail to donate (and we can add information on why the mail may be >> entered without cluttering the mail donation form) >> If we really need it on the first page, we can integrate it there, >> though. >> >> Kind Regards, >> Jan >> >> >> Am 31.03.2017 um 14:48 schrieb Mike Saunders: >> >> Hi Jan, >> >> On 30/03/2017 23:08, jan wrote: >> >> >> 1) What is the "I'm not a robot" for? >> >> >> That's a captcha -- it's in the current donate process so I >> thought I'd >> keep it in. (I don't know the exact reason it was added originally.) >> >> 2) What is asking for the mail address for? (I would like to >> know about >> is for the design, but I think the users want to know, too) >> >> >> It's for getting a confirmation / thank-you mail from TDF once the >> donation is complete. I could add some text to mention that... >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > -- Dr. Heiko Tietze UX Designer Tel. +49 (0)179/1268509 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
Will this actually replace the current Interface of http://donate.libreoffice.org/? Jan Am 31.03.2017 um 14:48 schrieb Mike Saunders: > Hi Jan, > > On 30/03/2017 23:08, jan wrote: >> >> 1) What is the "I'm not a robot" for? > > That's a captcha -- it's in the current donate process so I thought I'd > keep it in. (I don't know the exact reason it was added originally.) > >> 2) What is asking for the mail address for? (I would like to know about >> is for the design, but I think the users want to know, too) > > It's for getting a confirmation / thank-you mail from TDF once the > donation is complete. I could add some text to mention that... > > Mike > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
Based on Heikos ideas (or at least how I understood them) here a super simple version: http://imgur.com/a/jxYK7 Jan Am 02.04.2017 um 17:26 schrieb Heiko Tietze: > Big plus for the easy to recognize links. Other than that we should > consider to make it even more simple. No recurring transaction, one > input field with 10 as default, and next to it the currency. And a less > blatant font (if you are at this page the disclaimer on top is way too > much info). > Many thanks for your mockup, Jan! > > On April 2, 2017 4:50:32 PM GMT+02:00, jan wrote: > > Hi Mike, > > Here an updated proposal design-wise: > > http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj > > (it should be easy enough to implement in its basic form. Some added > Javascrip-foo will make it easier to use) > > Notes: > > * I integrated most like Jan suggested, on one page > > * I ditched the "robot"-captcha. It is easy to reintegrate, but as long > as we are not sure we really need it, I would not use it, since it can > slow the process of donating down. > > * I suggest the eMail field should come after the donation has been > finished, so we don’t create the impression that you need to enter your > mail to donate (and we can add information on why the mail may be > entered without cluttering the mail donation form) > If we really need it on the first page, we can integrate it there, though. > > Kind Regards, > Jan > > > Am 31.03.2017 um 14:48 schrieb Mike Saunders: > > Hi Jan, > > On 30/03/2017 23:08, jan wrote: > > > 1) What is the "I'm not a robot" for? > > > That's a captcha -- it's in the current donate process so I > thought I'd > keep it in. (I don't know the exact reason it was added originally.) > > 2) What is asking for the mail address for? (I would like to > know about > is for the design, but I think the users want to know, too) > > > It's for getting a confirmation / thank-you mail from TDF once the > donation is complete. I could add some text to mention that... > > Mike > > > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
Big plus for the easy to recognize links. Other than that we should consider to make it even more simple. No recurring transaction, one input field with 10 as default, and next to it the currency. And a less blatant font (if you are at this page the disclaimer on top is way too much info). Many thanks for your mockup, Jan! On April 2, 2017 4:50:32 PM GMT+02:00, jan wrote: >Hi Mike, > >Here an updated proposal design-wise: > > http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj > >(it should be easy enough to implement in its basic form. Some added >Javascrip-foo will make it easier to use) > >Notes: > >* I integrated most like Jan suggested, on one page > >* I ditched the "robot"-captcha. It is easy to reintegrate, but as long >as we are not sure we really need it, I would not use it, since it can >slow the process of donating down. > >* I suggest the eMail field should come after the donation has been >finished, so we don’t create the impression that you need to enter your >mail to donate (and we can add information on why the mail may be >entered without cluttering the mail donation form) >If we really need it on the first page, we can integrate it there, >though. > >Kind Regards, > Jan > > >Am 31.03.2017 um 14:48 schrieb Mike Saunders: >> Hi Jan, >> >> On 30/03/2017 23:08, jan wrote: >>> >>> 1) What is the "I'm not a robot" for? >> >> That's a captcha -- it's in the current donate process so I thought >I'd >> keep it in. (I don't know the exact reason it was added originally.) >> >>> 2) What is asking for the mail address for? (I would like to know >about >>> is for the design, but I think the users want to know, too) >> >> It's for getting a confirmation / thank-you mail from TDF once the >> donation is complete. I could add some text to mention that... >> >> Mike >> > > >-- >To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? >http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: >http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >deleted -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
Hi Mike, Here an updated proposal design-wise: http://imgur.com/a/IVMEj (it should be easy enough to implement in its basic form. Some added Javascrip-foo will make it easier to use) Notes: * I integrated most like Jan suggested, on one page * I ditched the "robot"-captcha. It is easy to reintegrate, but as long as we are not sure we really need it, I would not use it, since it can slow the process of donating down. * I suggest the eMail field should come after the donation has been finished, so we don’t create the impression that you need to enter your mail to donate (and we can add information on why the mail may be entered without cluttering the mail donation form) If we really need it on the first page, we can integrate it there, though. Kind Regards, Jan Am 31.03.2017 um 14:48 schrieb Mike Saunders: > Hi Jan, > > On 30/03/2017 23:08, jan wrote: >> >> 1) What is the "I'm not a robot" for? > > That's a captcha -- it's in the current donate process so I thought I'd > keep it in. (I don't know the exact reason it was added originally.) > >> 2) What is asking for the mail address for? (I would like to know about >> is for the design, but I think the users want to know, too) > > It's for getting a confirmation / thank-you mail from TDF once the > donation is complete. I could add some text to mention that... > > Mike > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
Hi Jan, On 30/03/2017 23:08, jan wrote: > > 1) What is the "I'm not a robot" for? That's a captcha -- it's in the current donate process so I thought I'd keep it in. (I don't know the exact reason it was added originally.) > 2) What is asking for the mail address for? (I would like to know about > is for the design, but I think the users want to know, too) It's for getting a confirmation / thank-you mail from TDF once the donation is complete. I could add some text to mention that... Mike -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
Am 29.03.2017 um 18:25 schrieb Jan Holesovsky: > + if we cannot do recurring payments with credit cards, just disable > the "pay by credit card" button for the non-One-time payments Can we do this? (we would need to runs a snippet of Javascript, I assume) > * the "I'm not a robot" and "Your email address" can easily fit the 1st > page too I think? Agree, we should do so. And also: 1) What is the "I'm not a robot" for? 2) What is asking for the mail address for? (I would like to know about is for the design, but I think the users want to know, too) Jan -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
Hi Mike, Mike Saunders píše v Čt 30. 03. 2017 v 15:49 +0200: > Yes, that's the plan. Once we have a design we're happy with, Cloph will > add it to Silverstripe and implement A/B testing to see how it works > (and also with default donation values). Awesome - thank you so much for driving this! All the best, Kendy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
Hi Jan, On 29/03/2017 18:25, Jan Holesovsky wrote: > > If we combine the two, I think we have the ideal workflow here - the > only choice the user has to do is "do I want to pay with a card or with > Paypal"? > > So - can you please remove the 2nd screen Sure, I can try combining them both into a single screen. I'm in training early next week so it may take a few days -- but as I mentioned before on the list, if anyone else wants to jump in, go ahead :-) > Indeed - so I hope we are going to A/B test the new design to compare > against the old one? :-) Yes, that's the plan. Once we have a design we're happy with, Cloph will add it to Silverstripe and implement A/B testing to see how it works (and also with default donation values). Mike -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
Hi Mike, Mike Saunders píše v St 29. 03. 2017 v 13:01 +0200: > > It seems to be best practice (at least looking at Wikimedia and Mozilla) > > to combine the "next" button with the choice of payment > > (https://donate.mozilla.org/en-US/) > > > > Could this be done here, too, or can we only pass the amount on to > > SilverStripe? > > I'm not sure about that to be honest -- I know very little about > SilverStripe. So there are things I like about the Mozilla's approach, and things I like about your approach :-) What I like about the Mozilla's approach is that all the choices are accumulated at one place, with a clear "press here to get this done". What I like about your approach is that you pre-select the amount for the user (Mozilla instead warns you when you press the button without choosing If we combine the two, I think we have the ideal workflow here - the only choice the user has to do is "do I want to pay with a card or with Paypal"? So - can you please remove the 2nd screen, and instead: * use radio buttons One time / Monthly [and maybe Quarterly / Yearly - if we really want them there] directly on the 1st screen + if we cannot do recurring payments with credit cards, just disable the "pay by credit card" button for the non-One-time payments * the "I'm not a robot" and "Your email address" can easily fit the 1st page too I think? > > Also, can we run Javascript to enable/disable inputs or show Icons – > > e.g. a blue PayPal logo if PP is availiable for the choosen currency and > > a grayed out version of the logo, if PP it is not? (just to give an example) > > > > I got some rough draft (https://postimg.org/image/5oe3x1ucj/) and the > > direction depends a bit on above questions. > > That looks good! I'm not a web designer so all I know is basic HTML and > CSS, and our current donate page is rather old so I came up with my > mockup. (Hence why it's not responsive to different dimensions as well). I hope that if you just avoid hardcoding dimensions, all should be fine? But something should be there, on the 2nd page, the "Quarterly" does not fit the button; and with translations this is going to be even worse. > If someone wants to take the idea and improve it like in your draft, > however, that'd be great! It's obviously something we want to get right, > as it's a big source of income for TDF and the community... Indeed - so I hope we are going to A/B test the new design to compare against the old one? :-) All the best, Kendy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
Hi Jan, On 28/03/2017 21:37, jan wrote: > > It seems to be best practice (at least looking at Wikimedia and Mozilla) > to combine the "next" button with the choice of payment > (https://donate.mozilla.org/en-US/) > > Could this be done here, too, or can we only pass the amount on to > SilverStripe? I'm not sure about that to be honest -- I know very little about SilverStripe. > Also, can we run Javascript to enable/disable inputs or show Icons – > e.g. a blue PayPal logo if PP is availiable for the choosen currency and > a grayed out version of the logo, if PP it is not? (just to give an example) > > I got some rough draft (https://postimg.org/image/5oe3x1ucj/) and the > direction depends a bit on above questions. That looks good! I'm not a web designer so all I know is basic HTML and CSS, and our current donate page is rather old so I came up with my mockup. (Hence why it's not responsive to different dimensions as well). If someone wants to take the idea and improve it like in your draft, however, that'd be great! It's obviously something we want to get right, as it's a big source of income for TDF and the community... Cheers, Mike -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
…one thing I forgot to ask: Is the width of the donate box fixed or can it vary (in particular concerning mobile devices) Jan -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
Hi Mike, It seems to be best practice (at least looking at Wikimedia and Mozilla) to combine the "next" button with the choice of payment (https://donate.mozilla.org/en-US/) Could this be done here, too, or can we only pass the amount on to SilverStripe? Also, can we run Javascript to enable/disable inputs or show Icons – e.g. a blue PayPal logo if PP is availiable for the choosen currency and a grayed out version of the logo, if PP it is not? (just to give an example) I got some rough draft (https://postimg.org/image/5oe3x1ucj/) and the direction depends a bit on above questions. Jan Am 28.03.2017 um 13:04 schrieb Mike Saunders: > Hi Jan, > > On 27/03/2017 19:03, jan wrote: >> >> Are you interested in Usability feedback on the form or are you purely >> interested in colors/fonts? > > If there's anything you think we can improve without starting from > scratch, then yes, that would be useful! Especially if you can do a > mockup or make changes to the HTML / CSS. > >> Also, is the second page (after clicking next) functional? (I found it a >> bit confusing, but it might be the case that it is just not finished or >> working for me) > > Yes, sorry, I should've explained that -- the second page won't do > anything yet because that will need to be integrated into SilverStripe > and the donation payment systems. > > Thanks! > > Mike > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
Hi Jan, On 27/03/2017 19:03, jan wrote: > > Are you interested in Usability feedback on the form or are you purely > interested in colors/fonts? If there's anything you think we can improve without starting from scratch, then yes, that would be useful! Especially if you can do a mockup or make changes to the HTML / CSS. > Also, is the second page (after clicking next) functional? (I found it a > bit confusing, but it might be the case that it is just not finished or > working for me) Yes, sorry, I should've explained that -- the second page won't do anything yet because that will need to be integrated into SilverStripe and the donation payment systems. Thanks! Mike -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
Hi Daniel, On 27/03/2017 17:45, Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote: > > Localiation is still possible? It will be possible to localise it, yes, but I think we should settle on a final design first before we look at that. Hopefully we'll have that done within the next few days. Mike -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
Hi Mike, Are you interested in Usability feedback on the form or are you purely interested in colors/fonts? Also, is the second page (after clicking next) functional? (I found it a bit confusing, but it might be the case that it is just not finished or working for me) Jan -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
Localiation is still possible? El 27 mar. 2017 11:45 AM, "V Stuart Foote" escribió: > Mike, * > > Tested on FF, IE11, Chrome functions well. > > Do we need another green for more contrast/highlight? > > Stuart > > > From: Mike Saunders > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 9:30 AM > To: design@global.libreoffice.org > Subject: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website > for beautifying > > Hi everyone, > > We've been working on an updated donate page for the LibreOffice > website. Here's the result so far (this is the main donate block that > will be integrated into our SilverStripe CMS): > > https://www.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/donate-design-test-1-js.html > > We've implemented the features we need and tested it in many browsers, > but if anyone would like to improve its appearance (eg change colours, > fonts, add graphics) then go ahead! > > We want to make this live quite soon, but there's still time if someone > wants to work on it. > > Thanks! > > -- > Mike Saunders, Marketing & PR > The Document Foundation > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- > unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- > unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying
Mike, * Tested on FF, IE11, Chrome functions well. Do we need another green for more contrast/highlight? Stuart From: Mike Saunders Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 9:30 AM To: design@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-design] Updated LibreOffice donate page on website for beautifying Hi everyone, We've been working on an updated donate page for the LibreOffice website. Here's the result so far (this is the main donate block that will be integrated into our SilverStripe CMS): https://www.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/donate-design-test-1-js.html We've implemented the features we need and tested it in many browsers, but if anyone would like to improve its appearance (eg change colours, fonts, add graphics) then go ahead! We want to make this live quite soon, but there's still time if someone wants to work on it. Thanks! -- Mike Saunders, Marketing & PR The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted