Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Release Candidate
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 01:27 PM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
On Thursday, Jul 31, 2003, at 14:05 Europe/Rome, Nicola Ken Barozzi
wrote:
Steven Noels wrote, On 31/07/2003 13.32:
On 31/07/2003 13:27 Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
I removed references to the "publishing framework" and added a CSS
stylesheet to both the cocoon directory and lenya's using a
inside hack (dirty, but it works on all the browsers I
tried and it downgrades nicely).
looking very nice, thanks!
On Firebird 0.6 the links are so sml...
yeah, you're right. I've updated it now using px instead of em, (the
only way to route around the DPI screen incompatibilities between win
and mac)
Sorry ... I have not actually looked, but you made me think of this
.
I find if you set a {font-size: 10px} "before" using {width: 1em}
(etc.) em works as it should
ie. 'em' scales from the base font-size
I use this a lot on http://www.iniva.org and find most browsers (PC
MSIE has no scale facility) can scale the site up and down cleanly. ie.
we want both the font size and layout to scale by the same proportions.
hope this helps
regards Jeremy
Re: [OT] Font size, Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Release Candidate
No, to all Mozilla users. Because there are many websites having to little fonts. For example www.spiegel.de is a bit strenuous to read in default font size, Looks good to me, btw. I hadn't understand a word, but size is good :) What I can't read is www.distrowatch.com without pressing Ctrl-+ *at least* once (killer feature this ctrl-+!). Sometimes I do it twice ;-) :-) Mozilla is gaining market share, btw. Apache.org is a geek site and you can see mozilla share around 10%+ and growing (see stats), but recently in the press they also noticed growing mozilla share. After some time those sites will have to change. At www.heise.de the Gecko engine is already at 25%: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/anw-06.08.03-003/ I hate it especially when homebanking sites force me to use another browser. www.dab.com even worked only with the Microsoft Java VM, they now switched to a HTML solution - after two years I asked the first time. www.diba.de has not been working with Gecko until now, don't know if it will change. www.bw-bank.de used the Netscape plugin interface, but now they switched to an applet - and this does not work with Gecko. What a hard world ... ;-) Joerg
Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Release Candidate
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:49:16 -0400 Vadim Gritsenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >The amazing thing is, you will be able to find this announcement from > >http://jakarta.apache.org/ > >http://jakarta.apache.org/site/elsewhere.html#20030730.1 > >in a few hours, too. > Can somebody writeup something in our "news"? Jakarta will have our > news, and our news won't... Hm > Vadim Sure. It seems that there's no news about Cocoon 2.1 R.C. at http://xml.apache.org/news.html ... Why jakarta?? it's because I have a karma of jakarta-site2 and do not have that of xml-site. That's all ;-) # I'm not sure where I can put the patch for this news. -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
[OT] Font size, Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Release Candidate
Joerg Heinicke wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: You can configure a minimum font size in Mozilla :-) You do recommend this to all Cocoon users? Seriously? And what to do about all the other web sites where font will become too large? Vadim No, to all Mozilla users. Because there are many websites having to little fonts. For example www.spiegel.de is a bit strenuous to read in default font size, Looks good to me, btw. I hadn't understand a word, but size is good :) What I can't read is www.distrowatch.com without pressing Ctrl-+ *at least* once (killer feature this ctrl-+!). Sometimes I do it twice ;-) so I set it to 11px. Of course, we should fix this (as Stefano already did), but you can't force all websites to increase their font sizes. Mozilla is gaining market share, btw. Apache.org is a geek site and you can see mozilla share around 10%+ and growing (see stats), but recently in the press they also noticed growing mozilla share. After some time those sites will have to change. Vadim
Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Release Candidate
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: You can configure a minimum font size in Mozilla :-) You do recommend this to all Cocoon users? Seriously? And what to do about all the other web sites where font will become too large? Vadim No, to all Mozilla users. Because there are many websites having to little fonts. For example www.spiegel.de is a bit strenuous to read in default font size, so I set it to 11px. Of course, we should fix this (as Stefano already did), but you can't force all websites to increase their font sizes. Joerg
Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Release Candidate
Joerg Heinicke wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: On Firebird 0.6 the links are so sml... I can't read it too (ie or esp. mozilla 1.4). At least one Ctrl-+ is required. Mind increasing the font? Vadim You can configure a minimum font size in Mozilla :-) You do recommend this to all Cocoon users? Seriously? And what to do about all the other web sites where font will become too large? Vadim
Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Release Candidate
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote, On 31/07/2003 14.27: ... I've updated it now using px instead of em, (the only way to route around the DPI screen incompatibilities between win and mac) please check if this works for you. Works, thanks :-) -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains) -
Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Release Candidate
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: On Firebird 0.6 the links are so sml... I can't read it too (ie or esp. mozilla 1.4). At least one Ctrl-+ is required. Mind increasing the font? Vadim You can configure a minimum font size in Mozilla :-) Joerg
Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Release Candidate
On Thursday, Jul 31, 2003, at 14:05 Europe/Rome, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Steven Noels wrote, On 31/07/2003 13.32: On 31/07/2003 13:27 Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: I removed references to the "publishing framework" and added a CSS stylesheet to both the cocoon directory and lenya's using a inside hack (dirty, but it works on all the browsers I tried and it downgrades nicely). looking very nice, thanks! On Firebird 0.6 the links are so sml... yeah, you're right. I've updated it now using px instead of em, (the only way to route around the DPI screen incompatibilities between win and mac) please check if this works for you. -- Stefano.
Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Release Candidate
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Steven Noels wrote, On 31/07/2003 13.32: On 31/07/2003 13:27 Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: I removed references to the "publishing framework" and added a CSS stylesheet to both the cocoon directory and lenya's using a inside hack (dirty, but it works on all the browsers I tried and it downgrades nicely). looking very nice, thanks! On Firebird 0.6 the links are so sml... I can't read it too (ie or esp. mozilla 1.4). At least one Ctrl-+ is required. Mind increasing the font? Vadim
Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Release Candidate
Steven Noels wrote, On 31/07/2003 13.32: On 31/07/2003 13:27 Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: I removed references to the "publishing framework" and added a CSS stylesheet to both the cocoon directory and lenya's using a inside hack (dirty, but it works on all the browsers I tried and it downgrades nicely). looking very nice, thanks! On Firebird 0.6 the links are so sml... -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains) -
Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Release Candidate
On 31/07/2003 13:27 Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: I removed references to the "publishing framework" and added a CSS stylesheet to both the cocoon directory and lenya's using a inside hack (dirty, but it works on all the browsers I tried and it downgrades nicely). looking very nice, thanks! -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org
Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Release Candidate
On Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003, at 12:50 Europe/Rome, Steven Noels wrote: On 30/07/2003 11:25 Carsten Ziegeler wrote: The Apache Cocoon team is proud to announce the new release of Apache Cocoon. I went in afterwards and edited README.html, .htaccess and HEADER.html in order to downsize and rationalize the download area (http://www.apache.org/dist/cocoon/) - please crosscheck. I removed references to the "publishing framework" and added a CSS stylesheet to both the cocoon directory and lenya's using a inside hack (dirty, but it works on all the browsers I tried and it downgrades nicely). if you see problems yell. -- Stefano.
RE: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Release Candidate
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > > Just one little problem below: > > > In an era where services rather than software > > will be key for economic success, a better and less expensive model > > for web publishing will be a winner, especially one based on open > > standards. > > We must change this reference to web publishing. > > I'll write something for this today and present it here. > Great! Thanks, we could change the announcement then. Carsten
Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Release Candidate
On Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003, at 11:25 Europe/Rome, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: The Apache Cocoon team is proud to announce the new release of Apache Cocoon. Great. Thanks Carsten. Just one little problem below: In an era where services rather than software will be key for economic success, a better and less expensive model for web publishing will be a winner, especially one based on open standards. We must change this reference to web publishing. I'll write something for this today and present it here. -- Stefano.
Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Release Candidate
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: The amazing thing is, you will be able to find this announcement from http://jakarta.apache.org/ http://jakarta.apache.org/site/elsewhere.html#20030730.1 in a few hours, too. Can somebody writeup something in our "news"? Jakarta will have our news, and our news won't... Hm Vadim
RE: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Release Candidate
Steven Noels wrote: > > I went in afterwards and edited README.html, .htaccess and HEADER.html > in order to downsize and rationalize the download area > (http://www.apache.org/dist/cocoon/) - please crosscheck. > Thanks! great! > Carsten, I found some files (a symlink) which aren't chmod g+w - could > you change these? No :) These are symlinks and afaik it's not possible to change them or there is a trick. A usual chmod doesn't work. > > lrwxr-xr-x 1 cziegeler cocoon32 Jul 29 02:16 > cocoon-2.1rc1-src.tar.gz > lrwxr-xr-x 1 cziegeler cocoon29 Jul 29 02:16 cocoon-2.1rc1-src.zip > > Also, the +x bit shouldn't be set on .sig files in the SOURCES directory. > Ups, yepp, removed them. Usually you should be able to modify yourself the rights as they all have group access. Thanks Carsten
Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Release Candidate
On 30/07/2003 11:25 Carsten Ziegeler wrote: The Apache Cocoon team is proud to announce the new release of Apache Cocoon. I went in afterwards and edited README.html, .htaccess and HEADER.html in order to downsize and rationalize the download area (http://www.apache.org/dist/cocoon/) - please crosscheck. Carsten, I found some files (a symlink) which aren't chmod g+w - could you change these? lrwxr-xr-x 1 cziegeler cocoon32 Jul 29 02:16 cocoon-2.1rc1-src.tar.gz lrwxr-xr-x 1 cziegeler cocoon29 Jul 29 02:16 cocoon-2.1rc1-src.zip Also, the +x bit shouldn't be set on .sig files in the SOURCES directory. Thanks! -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org
Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Release Candidate
On 30/07/2003 11:25 Carsten Ziegeler wrote: The Apache Cocoon team is proud to announce the new release of Apache Cocoon. ... which was again a masterly execution of the CaRsTeN-3000-meepzoid-release-bot. Thanks! -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org
Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Release Candidate
The amazing thing is, you will be able to find this announcement from http://jakarta.apache.org/ http://jakarta.apache.org/site/elsewhere.html#20030730.1 in a few hours, too. Congratulations, The Apache Cocoon Development Team! Best Regards, -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 03:27:48 -0600 (CST) (Subject: Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Release Candidate) "Antonio Gallardo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi: > > Congratulations! > By the way, It is amazing! Nice marketing :) > > Antonio Gallardo > > Carsten Ziegeler dijo: > > The Apache Cocoon team is proud to announce the new release > > of Apache Cocoon. > > > > Check out the Cocoon website http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1 for more > > information. > > > > Apache Cocoon is an XML framework that raises the usage of > > XML and XSLT technologies for server applications to a new level. > > Designed for performance and scalability around pipelined SAX > > processing, Cocoon offers a flexible environment based on the > > separation of concerns between content, logic and style. > > A centralized configuration system and sophisticated caching > > top this all off and help you to create, deploy and maintain > > rock-solid XML server applications. > > > > Today, most web engineers consider XML as the key for an improved > > web model and web site managers see XML as a way to reduce costs > > and ease production. In an era where services rather than software will > > be key for economic success, a better and less expensive model for web > > publishing will be a winner, especially one based on open > > standards. > > > > The Apache Cocoon Team > > > > > > > > > > Carsten > > > > Carsten Ziegeler > > Open Source Group, S&N AG > > http://radio.weblogs.com/0107211/ - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/
Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Release Candidate
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
The Apache Cocoon team is proud to announce the new release
of Apache Cocoon.
Champagne !
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Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Release Candidate
Hi: Congratulations! By the way, It is amazing! Nice marketing :) Antonio Gallardo Carsten Ziegeler dijo: > The Apache Cocoon team is proud to announce the new release > of Apache Cocoon. > > Check out the Cocoon website http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1 for more > information. > > Apache Cocoon is an XML framework that raises the usage of > XML and XSLT technologies for server applications to a new level. > Designed for performance and scalability around pipelined SAX > processing, Cocoon offers a flexible environment based on the > separation of concerns between content, logic and style. > A centralized configuration system and sophisticated caching > top this all off and help you to create, deploy and maintain > rock-solid XML server applications. > > Today, most web engineers consider XML as the key for an improved > web model and web site managers see XML as a way to reduce costs > and ease production. In an era where services rather than software will > be key for economic success, a better and less expensive model for web > publishing will be a winner, especially one based on open > standards. > > The Apache Cocoon Team > > > > > Carsten > > Carsten Ziegeler > Open Source Group, S&N AG > http://radio.weblogs.com/0107211/
