RE: [C2.2] Status Update

2004-01-26 Thread Unico Hommes
 

Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> 
> Geoff Howard wrote:
> > > These errors are due to the fact that the componentized 
> processor is 
> > > not nearly finished yet. The components are commented 
> because they 
> > > were missing meta data. Last I remembered wanting to 
> start to work 
> > > on was getting the select and handle-errors statements to 
> work. But 
> > > that was already a few weeks ago and I haven't had time since.
> >
> > Hmmm, I checked the text serializer and it looked like it 
> had the meta 
> > data.  Maybe one of the ones in that chain didn't.  I'll look into 
> > that bit more.
> >
> Actually I consider this a bug (missing feature). Any sitemap 
> component has to work in 2.2 without any meta data, like it 
> is today in 2.1 the case.
> Just dropping in the jar and adding the entry to the sitemap 
> must be sufficient, otherwise we are not compatible any more.
> 

I agree with you, this is a required feature that is still missing.

Unico


RE: [C2.2] Status Update

2004-01-26 Thread Unico Hommes
 

Geoff Howard wrote:
> 
> Unico Hommes wrote:
> 
> > Geoff Howard wrote:
> > 
> >>Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I made some updates to the new environment handling in 2.2 and it 
> >>>seems that most of it is running as it should. Even sub
> >>
> >>sitemaps work
> >>
> >>>(at least the sample works). I guess that internal pipeline
> >>
> >>calls are
> >>
> >>>not working yet.
> >>
> >>I just started looking into 2.2 again and noticed that many samples 
> >>are not even loading their launch page.  e.g., hello world samples 
> >>throw a ServiceException trying to look up the text serializer the 
> >>first time the hello-world sub-sitemap is read.  It seems 
> that this is 
> >>because the text serializer is not declared in the sitemap 
> - in fact, 
> >>it's commented out in the main root sitemap.  Uncommenting it moved 
> >>the error to the next undefined item (the wml serializer IIRC).
> >>Uncommenting the whole block of commented-out serializers 
> gives a very 
> >>unspecific error (maybe null pointer?) and that's when I ran out of 
> >>time.  Anyone know why these serializers needed to be 
> commented out, 
> >>or better, what still needs to happen to have these basic samples 
> >>work?
> > 
> > These errors are due to the fact that the componentized 
> processor is 
> > not nearly finished yet. The components are commented because they 
> > were missing meta data. Last I remembered wanting to start 
> to work on 
> > was getting the select and handle-errors statements to 
> work. But that 
> > was already a few weeks ago and I haven't had time since.
> 
> Hmmm, I checked the text serializer and it looked like it had 
> the meta data.  Maybe one of the ones in that chain didn't.  
> I'll look into that bit more.
> 

Yes, could be that I did update some components with meta data and then
didn't yet uncomment them in the sitemap.

Unico


RE: [C2.2] Status Update

2004-01-26 Thread Carsten Ziegeler

Geoff Howard wrote:
> > These errors are due to the fact that the componentized processor is not
> > nearly finished yet. The components are commented because they were
> > missing meta data. Last I remembered wanting to start to work on was
> > getting the select and handle-errors statements to work. But that was
> > already a few weeks ago and I haven't had time since.
>
> Hmmm, I checked the text serializer and it looked like it had the meta
> data.  Maybe one of the ones in that chain didn't.  I'll look into that
> bit more.
>
Actually I consider this a bug (missing feature). Any sitemap component has
to work in 2.2 without any meta data, like it is today in 2.1 the case.
Just dropping in the jar and adding the entry to the sitemap must be
sufficient, otherwise we are not compatible any more.

Carsten



Re: [C2.2] Status Update

2004-01-26 Thread Geoff Howard
Unico Hommes wrote:

Geoff Howard wrote:

Carsten Ziegeler wrote:


I made some updates to the new environment handling in 2.2 and it 
seems that most of it is running as it should. Even sub 
sitemaps work 

(at least the sample works). I guess that internal pipeline 
calls are 

not working yet.
I just started looking into 2.2 again and noticed that many 
samples are not even loading their launch page.  e.g., hello 
world samples throw a ServiceException trying to look up the 
text serializer the first time the hello-world sub-sitemap is 
read.  It seems that this is because the text serializer is 
not declared in the sitemap - in fact, it's commented out in 
the main root sitemap.  Uncommenting it moved the error to 
the next undefined item (the wml serializer IIRC).  
Uncommenting the whole block of commented-out serializers 
gives a very unspecific error (maybe null pointer?) and 
that's when I ran out of time.  Anyone know why these 
serializers needed to be commented out, or better, what still 
needs to happen to have these basic samples work?
These errors are due to the fact that the componentized processor is not
nearly finished yet. The components are commented because they were
missing meta data. Last I remembered wanting to start to work on was
getting the select and handle-errors statements to work. But that was
already a few weeks ago and I haven't had time since.
Hmmm, I checked the text serializer and it looked like it had the meta 
data.  Maybe one of the ones in that chain didn't.  I'll look into that 
bit more.

Geoff



Re: [C2.2] Status Update

2004-01-26 Thread Geoff Howard
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

On 25 Jan 2004, at 18:23, Geoff Howard wrote:

Giacomo Pati wrote:

Cool, Carsten! Thanks
I think we should focus on Blocks.
Anyone feels to take some initial lead for the development process as 
mentioned at http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=Blocks 
"Implementation Phases" ?


I can't take anything like the lead on this but will pipe in:

First, the block descriptor schema really is more or less finished IIRC.

I've just started looking at and thinking about the next step - the 
wiring data model.  If someone doesn't pipe up with some thoughts 
soon, (I expect that a new Boston resident may do that...) I am 
threatening to foist my own ill-conceived thoughts on you all about 
it.  If things get really bad, I may even have to start writing some 
code and believe me, for the good of Cocoon, no one wants it to come 
to that!
The new boston resident (who is in boston already) cannot guarantee you 
how much time he will have to dedicate to this, but knowing him pretty 
well, I can tell you that he will do as much as he can to keep up and, 
hopefully, help out.
Welcome - did you get any of this snow?

--
Stefano, who has a problem in starting things when there is a lot of 
expectance around them.
No, didn't mean it that way - just referring to the fact that you had 
just hinted that direction.

Geoff



RE: [C2.2] Status Update

2004-01-26 Thread Unico Hommes

Geoff Howard wrote:
> 
> Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> 
> > I made some updates to the new environment handling in 2.2 and it 
> > seems that most of it is running as it should. Even sub 
> sitemaps work 
> > (at least the sample works). I guess that internal pipeline 
> calls are 
> > not working yet.
> 
> I just started looking into 2.2 again and noticed that many 
> samples are not even loading their launch page.  e.g., hello 
> world samples throw a ServiceException trying to look up the 
> text serializer the first time the hello-world sub-sitemap is 
> read.  It seems that this is because the text serializer is 
> not declared in the sitemap - in fact, it's commented out in 
> the main root sitemap.  Uncommenting it moved the error to 
> the next undefined item (the wml serializer IIRC).  
> Uncommenting the whole block of commented-out serializers 
> gives a very unspecific error (maybe null pointer?) and 
> that's when I ran out of time.  Anyone know why these 
> serializers needed to be commented out, or better, what still 
> needs to happen to have these basic samples work?
> 

These errors are due to the fact that the componentized processor is not
nearly finished yet. The components are commented because they were
missing meta data. Last I remembered wanting to start to work on was
getting the select and handle-errors statements to work. But that was
already a few weeks ago and I haven't had time since.

Hopefully I will have more time for this in a few weeks time :-(.

Unico


Re: [C2.2] Status Update

2004-01-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 25 Jan 2004, at 18:23, Geoff Howard wrote:

Giacomo Pati wrote:

Cool, Carsten! Thanks
I think we should focus on Blocks.
Anyone feels to take some initial lead for the development process as 
mentioned at http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=Blocks 
"Implementation Phases" ?
I can't take anything like the lead on this but will pipe in:

First, the block descriptor schema really is more or less finished 
IIRC.

I've just started looking at and thinking about the next step - the 
wiring data model.  If someone doesn't pipe up with some thoughts 
soon, (I expect that a new Boston resident may do that...) I am 
threatening to foist my own ill-conceived thoughts on you all about 
it.  If things get really bad, I may even have to start writing some 
code and believe me, for the good of Cocoon, no one wants it to come 
to that!
The new boston resident (who is in boston already) cannot guarantee you 
how much time he will have to dedicate to this, but knowing him pretty 
well, I can tell you that he will do as much as he can to keep up and, 
hopefully, help out.

--
Stefano, who has a problem in starting things when there is a lot of 
expectance around them.



Re: [C2.2] Status Update

2004-01-25 Thread Geoff Howard
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:

I made some updates to the new environment handling in 2.2 and it
seems that most of it is running as it should. Even sub sitemaps work 
(at least the sample works). I guess that internal pipeline calls
are not working yet.
I just started looking into 2.2 again and noticed that many samples are 
not even loading their launch page.  e.g., hello world samples throw a 
ServiceException trying to look up the text serializer the first time 
the hello-world sub-sitemap is read.  It seems that this is because the 
text serializer is not declared in the sitemap - in fact, it's commented 
out in the main root sitemap.  Uncommenting it moved the error to the 
next undefined item (the wml serializer IIRC).  Uncommenting the whole 
block of commented-out serializers gives a very unspecific error (maybe 
null pointer?) and that's when I ran out of time.  Anyone know why these 
serializers needed to be commented out, or better, what still needs to 
happen to have these basic samples work?

Geoff



Re: [C2.2] Status Update

2004-01-25 Thread Geoff Howard
Giacomo Pati wrote:

Cool, Carsten! Thanks

I think we should focus on Blocks.

Anyone feels to take some initial lead for the development process as 
mentioned at http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=Blocks 
"Implementation Phases" ?
I can't take anything like the lead on this but will pipe in:

First, the block descriptor schema really is more or less finished IIRC.

I've just started looking at and thinking about the next step - the 
wiring data model.  If someone doesn't pipe up with some thoughts soon, 
(I expect that a new Boston resident may do that...) I am threatening to 
foist my own ill-conceived thoughts on you all about it.  If things get 
really bad, I may even have to start writing some code and believe me, 
for the good of Cocoon, no one wants it to come to that!

Geoff



Re: [C2.2] Status Update

2004-01-05 Thread Giacomo Pati
Cool, Carsten! Thanks

I think we should focus on Blocks.

Anyone feels to take some initial lead for the development process as 
mentioned at http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=Blocks 
"Implementation Phases" ?

Giacomo

Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
I made some updates to the new environment handling in 2.2 and it
seems that most of it is running as it should. Even sub sitemaps work 
(at least the sample works). I guess that internal pipeline calls
are not working yet.

Carsten 

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http://www.osoco.net/weblogs/rael/

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RE: [C2.2] Status Update

2004-01-05 Thread Unico Hommes

Cool, thanks! I don't think I will be able to much work on 2.2 this
week. But hopefully some time during next weekend.

Unico

> -Original Message-
> From: Carsten Ziegeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: maandag 5 januari 2004 13:55
> To: Cocoon-Dev
> Subject: [C2.2] Status Update
> 
> I made some updates to the new environment handling in 2.2 
> and it seems that most of it is running as it should. Even 
> sub sitemaps work (at least the sample works). I guess that 
> internal pipeline calls are not working yet.
> 
> Carsten 
> 
> Carsten Ziegeler
> Open Source Group, S&N AG
> http://www.osoco.net/weblogs/rael/
> 
>