Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: I think there was agreement on Monday about this, do we need a vote, or am I mistaken about the agreement? Naming it "Cocoon Forms" is a nice parallel to "Cocoon Flow", and shows that we're betting the farm on it, which I like. My late +1 for "Cocoon Forms" We can probably keep Woody as the block name though, in homage to the great sandwiches delivered to the great original authors of Cocoon Forms ;-) -Bertrand Regards, tony
Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: I volunteer for this. This move should also be the occasion of doing the refactoring (rather a polishing, actually) I proposed in august so that we quickly have some stable APIs. Just curious, when are you planning to do so? I should be starting this by the end of next week. The start of the week will be occupied giving a... Flowscript & Woody training!!! Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects } Orixo, the opensource XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com
Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
Christopher Oliver wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: I volunteer for this. This move should also be the occasion of doing the refactoring (rather a polishing, actually) I proposed in august so that we quickly have some stable APIs. But as far as the continuation and flowscript support for this goes, I think "refactoring" is the proper term. IMO the hack to support ${continuation.id} and the whole JS (woody.js, woody2.js) interface needs to be redesigned. +1 Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects } Orixo, the opensource XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com
Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On Friday, Oct 10, 2003, at 09:15 Europe/Rome, Steven Noels wrote: Bearing in mind the amount of work that requires a _real_ renaming, like changing package names, namespaces and all that - who's going to do that? I would suggest we do that in Cocoon 2.2 For the users, a "planned incompatibility" is not so bad, expecially if it's just a matter of doing namespace changes between (very few users care about package names). thoughts? Fine with me - it's a community thing now (which we will actively try to support, of course). -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source Java & XMLAn Orixo Member Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org
Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
On Friday, Oct 10, 2003, at 09:15 Europe/Rome, Steven Noels wrote: Bearing in mind the amount of work that requires a _real_ renaming, like changing package names, namespaces and all that - who's going to do that? I would suggest we do that in Cocoon 2.2 For the users, a "planned incompatibility" is not so bad, expecially if it's just a matter of doing namespace changes between (very few users care about package names). thoughts? -- Stefano.
Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
Christopher Oliver wrote: But as far as the continuation and flowscript support for this goes, I think "refactoring" is the proper term. IMO the hack to support ${continuation.id} and the whole JS (woody.js, woody2.js) interface needs to be redesigned. +1, and a big thank you for this cool-headed remark. -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source Java & XMLAn Orixo Member Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org
Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: I propose that we put in the docs some notes about the history of Woody/Cocoon Forms: who started it (you deserve credit), the initial name and where it came from, etc, etc, including the australian meaning of woody ;-) +1 (apart from the australian meaning) Hehe. It was funny seeing people finding that out - though it was the first thing which came to my mind when seeing "Debian Woody" quite some time ago. I must have been lectured English using tasty reading material, I guess. Or I've been subject to too much crafterm'isms over the past years. ;-) We have the CREDITS text for exactly that purpose. CREDITS should be used for proper donations, developed parallel to the collaborative community process, IMHO, and donated in an official way to the ASF (using the proper paperwork). Looking at the current list, we should actively try to keep it as short as possible. Web3 should be in it, as well, to give an example. I'm -0 to add any little company-funded piece of code into the CREDITS file, since it would become a marketing tool then. -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source Java & XMLAn Orixo Member Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org
Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
Sylvain Wallez wrote: I volunteer for this. This move should also be the occasion of doing the refactoring (rather a polishing, actually) I proposed in august so that we quickly have some stable APIs. But as far as the continuation and flowscript support for this goes, I think "refactoring" is the proper term. IMO the hack to support ${continuation.id} and the whole JS (woody.js, woody2.js) interface needs to be redesigned. My $0.02, Chris
RE: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
Sylvain Wallez wrote: > > > I propose that we put in the docs some notes about the history of > Woody/Cocoon Forms: who started it (you deserve credit), the initial > name and where it came from, etc, etc, including the australian meaning > of woody ;-) > +1 (apart from the australian meaning) We have the CREDITS text for exactly that purpose. > > I volunteer for this. This move should also be the occasion of doing the > refactoring (rather a polishing, actually) I proposed in august so that > we quickly have some stable APIs. > Just curious, when are you planning to do so? Carsten
Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
Steven Noels wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: This is why having one official direction on the various areas is good(tm) and having a simple name for it "cocoon sitemap" "cocoon flow" "cocoon forms" would help our users to choose and feel more protected and a more solid foundation. +1 - let's go for "Cocoon Forms" - even if I feel kind of sad seeing the name I suggested going away. Oh well - it's about seeing you kids grow up, I guess. I propose that we put in the docs some notes about the history of Woody/Cocoon Forms: who started it (you deserve credit), the initial name and where it came from, etc, etc, including the australian meaning of woody ;-) Bearing in mind the amount of work that requires a _real_ renaming, like changing package names, namespaces and all that - who's going to do that? I volunteer for this. This move should also be the occasion of doing the refactoring (rather a polishing, actually) I proposed in august so that we quickly have some stable APIs. Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects } Orixo, the opensource XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com
Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Which is a nice example, here, btw: the OT team proposed an alternative flow control concept and an alternative form framework, the community considered the first inferior to what we already had, but considered superior the second and promoted it as "official". Adapting to better reflect historical accuracy: no single line of Woody was written until _after_ Bruno's form proposal was discussed on the list. So in the end, the proposal was about design, and not about a finished code package being donated to the project. I tend to believe that this is exactly the reason why Woody has been able to grow into Cocoon Forms. [at the hackaton, there was a discussion on why the REST-based approach that Marc proposed cannot be matched one-2-one with the flow approach. Marc agreed that his idea of continuation and the current continuation are different concepts and forcing them into the same terminology might stretch the paradigm too much] No matter what the result was, I think forcing people with one solution forced discussions to happen, which helped all the parties involved, even to understand thing that were not previously understood by both sides. This is why having one official direction on the various areas is good(tm) and having a simple name for it "cocoon sitemap" "cocoon flow" "cocoon forms" would help our users to choose and feel more protected and a more solid foundation. +1 - let's go for "Cocoon Forms" - even if I feel kind of sad seeing the name I suggested going away. Oh well - it's about seeing you kids grow up, I guess. Bearing in mind the amount of work that requires a _real_ renaming, like changing package names, namespaces and all that - who's going to do that? Cheers, -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source Java & XMLAn Orixo Member Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org
Re: [HUM] block names (Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?)
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 10:55:58PM +0200, Marc Portier wrote: > > > Michael Melhem wrote: > > >On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 01:13:38PM +0200, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > > > >>Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > >> > > > > >>>We can probably keep Woody as the block name though, in homage to the > >>>great sandwiches delivered to the great original authors of Cocoon > >>>Forms ;-) > >> > >>I had a "Woody" yesterday; well...it's not that bad. > > > > > > Carsten, tooo much information mate, ;) > > > > cheers, > > Michael > > > > eheh, next time we need a name for a new block I'll propose 'rooster' ;-) hmmm...I think we might need a "rooster" plugin :) Michael > > -marc= > -- > Marc Portierhttp://outerthought.org/ > Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center > Read my weblog at http://radio.weblogs.com/0116284/ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >
[HUM] block names (Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?)
Michael Melhem wrote: On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 01:13:38PM +0200, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: We can probably keep Woody as the block name though, in homage to the great sandwiches delivered to the great original authors of Cocoon Forms ;-) I had a "Woody" yesterday; well...it's not that bad. Carsten, tooo much information mate, ;) cheers, Michael eheh, next time we need a name for a new block I'll propose 'rooster' ;-) -marc= -- Marc Portierhttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog at http://radio.weblogs.com/0116284/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
Joerg Heinicke wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: I think there was agreement on Monday about this, do we need a vote, or am I mistaken about the agreement? Someone mentioned that "Forms" in the name is "to official" and Stefano answered "if we won't have forms in the name we don't need to rename it at all". Such a nice toy name :) But I have no problem with renaming it. Naming it "Cocoon Forms" is a nice parallel to "Cocoon Flow", and shows that we're betting the farm on it, which I like. +1 +1 We can probably keep Woody as the block name though, in homage to the great sandwiches delivered to the great original authors of Cocoon Forms ;-) -1 either "Woody" or "Cocoon Forms", not a mixture yes, same feeling here however I do like the idea of holding on to some historic-faits-dhiver-reference by adding a cocoon forms sample that shows how to use it for building a sandwich-lunch-ordering application :-) actually we should change namespaces too, and the used prefixes as well as some classnames, and some stuff in the samples, possible references from other blocks, the (wiki) docos,... any feelings around this? regards, -marc= -- Marc Portierhttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog at http://radio.weblogs.com/0116284/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReSTy continuations (was Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?)
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: [at the hackaton, there was a discussion on why the REST-based approach that Marc proposed cannot be matched one-2-one with the flow approach. Marc agreed that his idea of continuation and the current continuation are different concepts and forcing them into the same terminology might stretch the paradigm too much] yep, hackathon discussion made me see some fundamental diffs yet still I see loads of opportunities in the ReSTy approach and I do think Cocoon's sitemap fits big time to the general ideas behind it I'm currently somewhat in doubth around next steps, and am just betting on some background-mind-processing thread working out how the ReST benefits could be more naturally added or at least made available to the cocoon user base. basically I'm still all ears to others wanting to join in the fun. regards, -marc= -- Marc Portierhttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog at http://radio.weblogs.com/0116284/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Torsten Curdt wrote: ...I doubt everyone knows what "woody" means in Australia ;) ROFTL ;-D For those who hadn't special aussie lessons with Michael, check out the "vulgar slang" meaning at http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=woody Sylvain It reminds me of one the "Austin Powers" movies with Mike Meyers (the one prior to "Goldmember", I think), where Woody Harrolson played a part in the very funny "Spotting Dr. Evils Spaceship"-style scenes :-) Best regards, Michael Hartle
Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
Torsten Curdt wrote: This is why having one official direction on the various areas is good(tm) and having a simple name for it "cocoon sitemap" "cocoon flow" "cocoon forms" would help our users to choose and feel more protected and a more solid foundation. +1 +1 also. that's exactly what I was preaching in my presentation at the GT last year ;) glad we finally have something that seems to be community driven! I must say that I was totally amazed by the feedback after my presentation on Woody. Lots of people came to me asking questions, saying they agreed Woody was the way to go, saying they already used it and liked it, and proposing enhancements (more on my blog). Maybe the community was expecting some kind of "go" sign to rush on Woody and it appears I clearly gave this sign at Gent. Amazing community, and sudden amazing responsibility for those that thought they were a bit alone on this stuff in their "woody corner of the blocks directory" ;-) I love it :-) Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects } Orixo, the opensource XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com
Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
Torsten Curdt wrote: I had a "Woody" yesterday; well...it's not that bad. Carsten, tooo much information mate, ;) cheers, Michael ...I doubt everyone knows what "woody" means in Australia ;) ROFTL ;-D For those who hadn't special aussie lessons with Michael, check out the "vulgar slang" meaning at http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=woody Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects } Orixo, the opensource XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com
Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
This is why having one official direction on the various areas is good(tm) and having a simple name for it "cocoon sitemap" "cocoon flow" "cocoon forms" would help our users to choose and feel more protected and a more solid foundation. +1 that's exactly what I was preaching in my presentation at the GT last year ;) glad we finally have something that seems to be community driven! -- Torsten
RE: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > > > No matter what the result was, I think forcing people with one solution > forced discussions to happen, which helped all the parties involved, > even to understand thing that were not previously understood by both > sides. > > This is why having one official direction on the various areas is > good(tm) and having a simple name for it "cocoon sitemap" "cocoon flow" > "cocoon forms" would help our users to choose and feel more protected > and a more solid foundation. > +1 In some areas we have two or three (or more) different solutions all not satisfying the real users needs which is really crap. So, I consider this one of the most important discussions at the GT and the result might be the most important one. Carsten
RE: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
Matthew Langham wrote: > > >>> I had a "Woody" yesterday; well...it's not that bad. > >> > >>Carsten, tooo much information mate, ;) > >>cheers, > >>Michael > > > > ...I doubt everyone knows what "woody" means > > in Australia ;) > > > > Hahaha - that's really funny :-). > Ok, before someone finds a "really funny" description/picture of a "Woody" in google (I just found someone which I wont post here!), the "Woody" I ate yesterday is a SANDWICH as everyone in the cocoon community should know anyway :) Carsten
Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
On Thursday, Oct 9, 2003, at 14:50 Europe/Rome, Michael Melhem wrote: On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 01:13:38PM +0200, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: I think there was agreement on Monday about this, do we need a vote, or am I mistaken about the agreement? I think we had consensus, however not all committers attended the hackathon, so it might be that someone is -1 on it and has a good reason. Naming it "Cocoon Forms" is a nice parallel to "Cocoon Flow", and shows that we're betting the farm on it, which I like. +1 Im not against naming it "Cocoon Forms" but we need to be sure we want to lock Cocoon to a single Forms implementation. I do. Just like I wouldn't want multiple flow, FOM or sitemap implementation as core. We allow other people to write their own, but we support only one of a kind: this forces discussions instead of forking... remember the balkanization thread. Which is a nice example, here, btw: the OT team proposed an alternative flow control concept and an alternative form framework, the community considered the first inferior to what we already had, but considered superior the second and promoted it as "official". [at the hackaton, there was a discussion on why the REST-based approach that Marc proposed cannot be matched one-2-one with the flow approach. Marc agreed that his idea of continuation and the current continuation are different concepts and forcing them into the same terminology might stretch the paradigm too much] No matter what the result was, I think forcing people with one solution forced discussions to happen, which helped all the parties involved, even to understand thing that were not previously understood by both sides. This is why having one official direction on the various areas is good(tm) and having a simple name for it "cocoon sitemap" "cocoon flow" "cocoon forms" would help our users to choose and feel more protected and a more solid foundation. -- Stefano.
Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
...I doubt everyone knows what "woody" means in Australia ;) hum. I'm starting to agree with you guys on the renaming ;-) -Bertrand P.S. http://psy.otago.ac.nz/r_oshea/slang.html
Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
I had a "Woody" yesterday; well...it's not that bad. Carsten, tooo much information mate, ;) cheers, Michael ...I doubt everyone knows what "woody" means in Australia ;) Hahaha - that's really funny :-). Matthew
Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
I had a "Woody" yesterday; well...it's not that bad. Carsten, tooo much information mate, ;) cheers, Michael ...I doubt everyone knows what "woody" means in Australia ;) cheers -- Torsten
Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
On Thursday, Oct 9, 2003, at 14:07 Europe/Rome, Geoff Howard wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: I think there was agreement on Monday about this, do we need a vote, or am I mistaken about the agreement? Naming it "Cocoon Forms" is a nice parallel to "Cocoon Flow", and shows that we're betting the farm on it, which I like. +1 +1 We can probably keep Woody as the block name though, in homage to the great sandwiches delivered to the great original authors of Cocoon Forms ;-) No, I think that block name reduces visibility. Agreed, +1 to change the block name as well. In fact, I'm starting to feel that non-descriptive names for projects are a marketing liability unless the "brand" can really be equated with its meaning. True. But when a brand indicates use (think "kleenex", "googling") that's where you have marketing connected to the use of the term. We might be achiving that status with cocoon "let's cocoon our web site", anyone? ;-) -- Stefano.
Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 01:13:38PM +0200, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > > > I think there was agreement on Monday about this, do we need a vote, or > > am I mistaken about the agreement? > I think we had consensus, however not all committers attended the hackathon, > so it might be that someone is -1 on it and has a good reason. > > > > > Naming it "Cocoon Forms" is a nice parallel to "Cocoon Flow", and shows > > that we're betting the farm on it, which I like. > +1 Im not against naming it "Cocoon Forms" but we need to be sure we want to lock Cocoon to a single Forms implementation. Just to play "devils advocate", an alternative name could be "Woody Forms" or "WForms" > > > > > We can probably keep Woody as the block name though, in homage to the > > great sandwiches delivered to the great original authors of Cocoon > > Forms ;-) > I had a "Woody" yesterday; well...it's not that bad. Carsten, tooo much information mate, ;) cheers, Michael > > But I think that it makes sense to rename the block as well. If someone > is looking for form handling he will soon notice that the "form" block > is about forms. But that's not visible if we keep the name "woody". > > Carsten > > >
Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: I think there was agreement on Monday about this, do we need a vote, or am I mistaken about the agreement? Someone mentioned that "Forms" in the name is "to official" and Stefano answered "if we won't have forms in the name we don't need to rename it at all". Such a nice toy name :) But I have no problem with renaming it. Naming it "Cocoon Forms" is a nice parallel to "Cocoon Flow", and shows that we're betting the farm on it, which I like. +1 We can probably keep Woody as the block name though, in homage to the great sandwiches delivered to the great original authors of Cocoon Forms ;-) -1 either "Woody" or "Cocoon Forms", not a mixture Joerg -- System Development VIRBUS AG Fon +49(0)341-979-7419 Fax +49(0)341-979-7409 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.virbus.de
Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: I think there was agreement on Monday about this, do we need a vote, or am I mistaken about the agreement? Naming it "Cocoon Forms" is a nice parallel to "Cocoon Flow", and shows that we're betting the farm on it, which I like. +1 We can probably keep Woody as the block name though, in homage to the great sandwiches delivered to the great original authors of Cocoon Forms ;-) No, I think that block name reduces visibility. In fact, I'm starting to feel that non-descriptive names for projects are a marketing liability unless the "brand" can really be equated with its meaning. Geoff
Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
Here is 2 cents worth of opinions from sweden :-) On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 13:03, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Naming it "Cocoon Forms" is a nice parallel to "Cocoon Flow", and shows > that we're betting the farm on it, which I like. +1 > We can probably keep Woody as the block name though -1 For the sake of naming consistency. Its' better to change it now while the user count is fairly low, than doing it when thousands and thousands of people are using it. Regards, Per-Olof Norén
RE: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
From: Carsten Ziegeler > Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > > > I think there was agreement on Monday about this, do we > need a vote, > > or am I mistaken about the agreement? > I think we had consensus, however not all committers attended > the hackathon, so it might be that someone is -1 on it and > has a good reason. > > > > > Naming it "Cocoon Forms" is a nice parallel to "Cocoon Flow", and > > shows that we're betting the farm on it, which I like. > +1 +1 too > > > > > We can probably keep Woody as the block name though, in > homage to the > > great sandwiches delivered to the great original authors of Cocoon > > Forms ;-) > I had a "Woody" yesterday; well...it's not that bad. > > But I think that it makes sense to rename the block as well. > If someone is looking for form handling he will soon notice > that the "form" block is about forms. But that's not visible > if we keep the name "woody". +1 for the renaming (we should have only one official brand) Reinhard
Re: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: I think there was agreement on Monday about this, do we need a vote, or am I mistaken about the agreement? I guess there were a couple of +1 ;) Here is mine again: +1 Naming it "Cocoon Forms" is a nice parallel to "Cocoon Flow", and shows that we're betting the farm on it, which I like. > We can probably keep Woody as the block name though, in homage to the great sandwiches delivered to the great original authors of Cocoon Forms ;-) Hm... better let's keep it consistent! People would not search for the "woody" block but the "forms" block or something. I'd prefer to rename the block as well -- Torsten
RE: Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > I think there was agreement on Monday about this, do we need a vote, or > am I mistaken about the agreement? I think we had consensus, however not all committers attended the hackathon, so it might be that someone is -1 on it and has a good reason. > > Naming it "Cocoon Forms" is a nice parallel to "Cocoon Flow", and shows > that we're betting the farm on it, which I like. +1 > > We can probably keep Woody as the block name though, in homage to the > great sandwiches delivered to the great original authors of Cocoon > Forms ;-) I had a "Woody" yesterday; well...it's not that bad. But I think that it makes sense to rename the block as well. If someone is looking for form handling he will soon notice that the "form" block is about forms. But that's not visible if we keep the name "woody". Carsten
Renaming Woody to "Cocoon Forms" ?
I think there was agreement on Monday about this, do we need a vote, or am I mistaken about the agreement? Naming it "Cocoon Forms" is a nice parallel to "Cocoon Flow", and shows that we're betting the farm on it, which I like. We can probably keep Woody as the block name though, in homage to the great sandwiches delivered to the great original authors of Cocoon Forms ;-) -Bertrand