Re: [RESULT][math] [POLL] new TLP name

[Benedikt Ritter]

Just FTR, I voted for Apache Math Components.

BR,
Benedikt

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> Am 04.02.2016 um 20:39 schrieb Phil Steitz :
> 
> It looks like just plain "math" is the quantitative winner.  Here is
> the full tally:
> 
> Among PMC volunteers:
> 
> math 4 (Phil, Gary, Thomas, Otmar)
> Epsilon 1 (Luc)
> aJama 1 (Gilles)
> 
> Other votes:
> math 9 (James, Emanual, Norm, Bruno, Christopher, Damjan, Patrick,
> Martin, Henri)
> Epsilon 3 (Evan, Ole, Bruce)
> 
> Please let me know if I missed anyone.  Based on this, I would like
> to move forward with the resolution including "Apache math" as the
> name.  Can we agree on this?
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
>> On 2/1/16 10:06 AM, Phil Steitz wrote:
>> Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
>> for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
>> respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
>> tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
>> the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
>> will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
>> runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
>> choice for the name.
>> 
>> AjaMa
>> Epsilon
>> Erdos
>> Euclid
>> Euler
>> Gauss
>> JAML
>> Math
>> MathBlocks
>> MathComponents (or Math Components)
>> Mathelactica
>> MathModules
>> Megginson
>> modMath
>> Nash
>> Newton
>> Pythagoras
> 
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Re: [RESULT][math] [POLL] new TLP name

[Gilles]

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 12:39:16 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:

It looks like just plain "math" is the quantitative winner.  Here is
the full tally:

Among PMC volunteers:

math 4 (Phil, Gary, Thomas, Otmar)
Epsilon 1 (Luc)
aJama 1 (Gilles)

Other votes:
math 9 (James, Emanual, Norm, Bruno, Christopher, Damjan, Patrick,
Martin, Henri)
Epsilon 3 (Evan, Ole, Bruce)

Please let me know if I missed anyone.  Based on this, I would like
to move forward with the resolution including "Apache math" as the
name.  Can we agree on this?


No problem (with a big "M").

Gilles



Phil


On 2/1/16 10:06 AM, Phil Steitz wrote:

Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
choice for the name.

AjaMa
Epsilon
Erdos
Euclid
Euler
Gauss
JAML
Math
MathBlocks
MathComponents (or Math Components)
Mathelactica
MathModules
Megginson
modMath
Nash
Newton
Pythagoras



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Re: [RESULT][math] [POLL] new TLP name

[Gary Gregory]

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 12:39 PM, sebb  wrote:

> Being pedantic:
>
> It was "Apache Math" that got the most votes, not "Apache math".


> I hope the former is what gets put forward.
>

+1

Gary


>
> On 4 February 2016 at 19:39, Phil Steitz  wrote:
> > It looks like just plain "math" is the quantitative winner.  Here is
> > the full tally:
> >
> > Among PMC volunteers:
> >
> > math 4 (Phil, Gary, Thomas, Otmar)
> > Epsilon 1 (Luc)
> > aJama 1 (Gilles)
> >
> > Other votes:
> > math 9 (James, Emanual, Norm, Bruno, Christopher, Damjan, Patrick,
> > Martin, Henri)
> > Epsilon 3 (Evan, Ole, Bruce)
> >
> > Please let me know if I missed anyone.  Based on this, I would like
> > to move forward with the resolution including "Apache math" as the
> > name.  Can we agree on this?
> >
> > Phil
> >
> >
> > On 2/1/16 10:06 AM, Phil Steitz wrote:
> >> Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
> >> for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
> >> respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
> >> tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
> >> the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
> >> will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
> >> runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
> >> choice for the name.
> >>
> >> AjaMa
> >> Epsilon
> >> Erdos
> >> Euclid
> >> Euler
> >> Gauss
> >> JAML
> >> Math
> >> MathBlocks
> >> MathComponents (or Math Components)
> >> Mathelactica
> >> MathModules
> >> Megginson
> >> modMath
> >> Nash
> >> Newton
> >> Pythagoras
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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Re: [RESULT][math] [POLL] new TLP name

[sebb]

Being pedantic:

It was "Apache Math" that got the most votes, not "Apache math".

I hope the former is what gets put forward.

On 4 February 2016 at 19:39, Phil Steitz  wrote:
> It looks like just plain "math" is the quantitative winner.  Here is
> the full tally:
>
> Among PMC volunteers:
>
> math 4 (Phil, Gary, Thomas, Otmar)
> Epsilon 1 (Luc)
> aJama 1 (Gilles)
>
> Other votes:
> math 9 (James, Emanual, Norm, Bruno, Christopher, Damjan, Patrick,
> Martin, Henri)
> Epsilon 3 (Evan, Ole, Bruce)
>
> Please let me know if I missed anyone.  Based on this, I would like
> to move forward with the resolution including "Apache math" as the
> name.  Can we agree on this?
>
> Phil
>
>
> On 2/1/16 10:06 AM, Phil Steitz wrote:
>> Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
>> for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
>> respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
>> tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
>> the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
>> will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
>> runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
>> choice for the name.
>>
>> AjaMa
>> Epsilon
>> Erdos
>> Euclid
>> Euler
>> Gauss
>> JAML
>> Math
>> MathBlocks
>> MathComponents (or Math Components)
>> Mathelactica
>> MathModules
>> Megginson
>> modMath
>> Nash
>> Newton
>> Pythagoras
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RESULT][math] [POLL] new TLP name

[Hasan Diwan]

I'm indifferent.  -- H

On 4 February 2016 at 11:39, Phil Steitz  wrote:

> It looks like just plain "math" is the quantitative winner.  Here is
> the full tally:
>
> Among PMC volunteers:
>
> math 4 (Phil, Gary, Thomas, Otmar)
> Epsilon 1 (Luc)
> aJama 1 (Gilles)
>
> Other votes:
> math 9 (James, Emanual, Norm, Bruno, Christopher, Damjan, Patrick,
> Martin, Henri)
> Epsilon 3 (Evan, Ole, Bruce)
>
> Please let me know if I missed anyone.  Based on this, I would like
> to move forward with the resolution including "Apache math" as the
> name.  Can we agree on this?
>
> Phil
>
>
> On 2/1/16 10:06 AM, Phil Steitz wrote:
> > Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
> > for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
> > respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
> > tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
> > the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
> > will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
> > runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
> > choice for the name.
> >
> > AjaMa
> > Epsilon
> > Erdos
> > Euclid
> > Euler
> > Gauss
> > JAML
> > Math
> > MathBlocks
> > MathComponents (or Math Components)
> > Mathelactica
> > MathModules
> > Megginson
> > modMath
> > Nash
> > Newton
> > Pythagoras
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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[RESULT][math] [POLL] new TLP name

[Phil Steitz]

It looks like just plain "math" is the quantitative winner.  Here is
the full tally:

Among PMC volunteers:

math 4 (Phil, Gary, Thomas, Otmar)
Epsilon 1 (Luc)
aJama 1 (Gilles)

Other votes:
math 9 (James, Emanual, Norm, Bruno, Christopher, Damjan, Patrick,
Martin, Henri)
Epsilon 3 (Evan, Ole, Bruce)

Please let me know if I missed anyone.  Based on this, I would like
to move forward with the resolution including "Apache math" as the
name.  Can we agree on this?

Phil


On 2/1/16 10:06 AM, Phil Steitz wrote:
> Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
> for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
> respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
> tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
> the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
> will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
> runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
> choice for the name.
>
> AjaMa
> Epsilon
> Erdos
> Euclid
> Euler
> Gauss
> JAML
> Math
> MathBlocks
> MathComponents (or Math Components)
> Mathelactica
> MathModules
> Megginson
> modMath
> Nash
> Newton
> Pythagoras
>
>
>
>



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Re: [math] [POLL] new TLP name

[Thomas Neidhart]

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Phil Steitz  wrote:

> On 2/2/16 11:44 AM, Thomas Neidhart wrote:
> > On 02/01/2016 06:06 PM, Phil Steitz wrote:
> >> Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
> >> for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
> >> respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
> >> tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
> >> the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
> >> will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
> >> runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
> >> choice for the name.
> >>
> >> AjaMa
> >> Epsilon
> >> Erdos
> >> Euclid
> >> Euler
> >> Gauss
> >> JAML
> >> Math
> >> MathBlocks
> >> MathComponents (or Math Components)
> >> Mathelactica
> >> MathModules
> >> Megginson
> >> modMath
> >> Nash
> >> Newton
> >> Pythagoras
> > I am split between Epsilon and Math, both seem quite appealing to me.
> > Both choices are fine for me.
>
> I need a first choice for the tally.  Can I assume that is "Epsilon?"
>

I would vote for Math as first choice.

Thomas

Re: [math] [POLL] new TLP name

[Phil Steitz]

On 2/2/16 11:44 AM, Thomas Neidhart wrote:
> On 02/01/2016 06:06 PM, Phil Steitz wrote:
>> Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
>> for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
>> respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
>> tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
>> the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
>> will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
>> runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
>> choice for the name.
>>
>> AjaMa
>> Epsilon
>> Erdos
>> Euclid
>> Euler
>> Gauss
>> JAML
>> Math
>> MathBlocks
>> MathComponents (or Math Components)
>> Mathelactica
>> MathModules
>> Megginson
>> modMath
>> Nash
>> Newton
>> Pythagoras
> I am split between Epsilon and Math, both seem quite appealing to me.
> Both choices are fine for me.

I need a first choice for the tally.  Can I assume that is "Epsilon?"

Phil
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Re: [math] [POLL] new TLP name

[Henri Yandell]

Apache Math.

On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Martin Grotle Soukup <
martin.grotle.sou...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think Apache Math sounds most promising.
>
> Best regards
> Martin Grotle Soukup
>
> 2016-02-01 18:06 GMT+01:00 Phil Steitz :
>
> > Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
> > for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
> > respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
> > tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
> > the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
> > will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
> > runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
> > choice for the name.
> >
> > AjaMa
> > Epsilon
> > Erdos
> > Euclid
> > Euler
> > Gauss
> > JAML
> > Math
> > MathBlocks
> > MathComponents (or Math Components)
> > Mathelactica
> > MathModules
> > Megginson
> > modMath
> > Nash
> > Newton
> > Pythagoras
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [math] [POLL] new TLP name

[Martin Grotle Soukup]

I think Apache Math sounds most promising.

Best regards
Martin Grotle Soukup

2016-02-01 18:06 GMT+01:00 Phil Steitz :

> Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
> for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
> respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
> tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
> the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
> will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
> runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
> choice for the name.
>
> AjaMa
> Epsilon
> Erdos
> Euclid
> Euler
> Gauss
> JAML
> Math
> MathBlocks
> MathComponents (or Math Components)
> Mathelactica
> MathModules
> Megginson
> modMath
> Nash
> Newton
> Pythagoras
>
>
>
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Re: [math] [POLL] new TLP name

[Thomas Neidhart]

On 02/01/2016 06:06 PM, Phil Steitz wrote:
> Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
> for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
> respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
> tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
> the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
> will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
> runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
> choice for the name.
> 
> AjaMa
> Epsilon
> Erdos
> Euclid
> Euler
> Gauss
> JAML
> Math
> MathBlocks
> MathComponents (or Math Components)
> Mathelactica
> MathModules
> Megginson
> modMath
> Nash
> Newton
> Pythagoras

I am split between Epsilon and Math, both seem quite appealing to me.
Both choices are fine for me.

Thomas

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Re: [Math] Technical objection (Was: [math] [POLL] new TLP name)

[sebb]

On 2 February 2016 at 13:39, Gilles  wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 12:53:53 +, sebb wrote:
>>
>> On 2 February 2016 at 12:11, Ate Douma  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2016-02-02 12:43, Gilles wrote:


 On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 10:06:40 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:
>
>
> Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
> for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
> respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
> tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
> the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
> will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
> runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
> choice for the name.
>
> AjaMa
> Epsilon
> Erdos
> Euclid
> Euler
> Gauss
> JAML



 This choice:

> Math



 can potentially lead to legal and/or technical problems:
   * name of the JAR will basically be "math.jar", easily clashing
 with local toolboxes (also named without much imagination)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> apache-math-x.y.z.jar
>
>
> Just, this is not the current naming:
> "bare" name -> bare.jar

Depends on the project.

Abdera, ACE, Ambari all use apache- prefixes, as do many others.

Others don't.

>>>
>>> will fix the name clashing trivially.
>>>
>>>
   * name of the project will obviously be impossible to protect
>>
>>
>> The name of the project will be
>>
>> Apache Math
>>
>> which *is* protectable.
>
>
> Then if unique names or acronyms that are easy to identify are no
> valuable arguments, we could have had
>
>ASL

Possibly; that would depend on the outcome of a name search.

>
> It's shorter than "Math", if that is really what people like in it
> (since no other good points were made AFAICT).
>
>> This is no different from many other ASF projects which use common
>> names that already have meanings.
>>
>> There are very few ASF projects whose bare names are protectable/protected
>
>
> Is it a good reason to add another one?
>
> Having a not already used and not likely to be used name can prevent time
> wasted later in trying to enforce the protection.

That's not the only work that would need to be done.

I agree it would be easier to enforce the name if it is sufficiently unique.
But enforcement is only a part of the workload - the project must
spend time checking whether there are misuses of the name.

That work is not necessary if the name is only used in conjunction
with the Apache prefix.

>
> Gilles
>
>

> MathBlocks
> MathComponents (or Math Components)
> Mathelactica
> MathModules
> Megginson
> modMath
> Nash
> Newton
> Pythagoras



 The second objection of course holds for many names in the list.
 We'd better follow Bertrand's suggestion.


 Gilles
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RE: [math] [POLL] new TLP name

[Patrick Meyer]

Apache Math

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Please select your top choice among the following suggested names for the new 
[math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to respond.  This POLL will 
be open for 72 hours, at which time two tallies will be presented:  one among 
those who have volunteered for the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  
Hopefully, one name will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off 
another
runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
choice for the name.

AjaMa
Epsilon
Erdos
Euclid
Euler
Gauss
JAML
Math
MathBlocks
MathComponents (or Math Components)
Mathelactica
MathModules
Megginson
modMath
Nash
Newton
Pythagoras





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Re: [math] [POLL] new TLP name

[Benedikt Ritter]

I vote for Apache Math Components.

2016-02-01 18:06 GMT+01:00 Phil Steitz :

> Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
> for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
> respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
> tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
> the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
> will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
> runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
> choice for the name.
>
> AjaMa
> Epsilon
> Erdos
> Euclid
> Euler
> Gauss
> JAML
> Math
> MathBlocks
> MathComponents (or Math Components)
> Mathelactica
> MathModules
> Megginson
> modMath
> Nash
> Newton
> Pythagoras
>
>
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Re: [math] [POLL] new TLP name

[Phil Steitz]

My own vote is for Apache Math

Phil

On 2/1/16 10:06 AM, Phil Steitz wrote:
> Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
> for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
> respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
> tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
> the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
> will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
> runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
> choice for the name.
>
> AjaMa
> Epsilon
> Erdos
> Euclid
> Euler
> Gauss
> JAML
> Math
> MathBlocks
> MathComponents (or Math Components)
> Mathelactica
> MathModules
> Megginson
> modMath
> Nash
> Newton
> Pythagoras
>
>
>
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Re: [Math] Technical objection (Was: [math] [POLL] new TLP name)

[Gilles]

On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 12:53:53 +, sebb wrote:

On 2 February 2016 at 12:11, Ate Douma  wrote:

On 2016-02-02 12:43, Gilles wrote:


On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 10:06:40 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:


Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered 
for
the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one 
name

will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
choice for the name.

AjaMa
Epsilon
Erdos
Euclid
Euler
Gauss
JAML



This choice:


Math



can potentially lead to legal and/or technical problems:
  * name of the JAR will basically be "math.jar", easily clashing
with local toolboxes (also named without much imagination)



apache-math-x.y.z.jar


Just, this is not the current naming:
"bare" name -> bare.jar



will fix the name clashing trivially.



  * name of the project will obviously be impossible to protect


The name of the project will be

Apache Math

which *is* protectable.


Then if unique names or acronyms that are easy to identify are no
valuable arguments, we could have had

   ASL

It's shorter than "Math", if that is really what people like in it
(since no other good points were made AFAICT).


This is no different from many other ASF projects which use common
names that already have meanings.

There are very few ASF projects whose bare names are 
protectable/protected


Is it a good reason to add another one?

Having a not already used and not likely to be used name can prevent 
time

wasted later in trying to enforce the protection.


Gilles




MathBlocks
MathComponents (or Math Components)
Mathelactica
MathModules
Megginson
modMath
Nash
Newton
Pythagoras



The second objection of course holds for many names in the list.
We'd better follow Bertrand's suggestion.


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Re: [math] [POLL] new TLP name

[James Carman]

For the record, I really do like epsilon also.

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 12:14 PM James Carman 
wrote:

> Apache Math
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 12:06 PM Phil Steitz  wrote:
>
>> Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
>> for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
>> respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
>> tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
>> the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
>> will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
>> runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
>> choice for the name.
>>
>> AjaMa
>> Epsilon
>> Erdos
>> Euclid
>> Euler
>> Gauss
>> JAML
>> Math
>> MathBlocks
>> MathComponents (or Math Components)
>> Mathelactica
>> MathModules
>> Megginson
>> modMath
>> Nash
>> Newton
>> Pythagoras
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Re: [Math] Technical objection (Was: [math] [POLL] new TLP name)

[sebb]

On 2 February 2016 at 12:11, Ate Douma  wrote:
> On 2016-02-02 12:43, Gilles wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 10:06:40 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:
>>>
>>> Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
>>> for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
>>> respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
>>> tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
>>> the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
>>> will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
>>> runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
>>> choice for the name.
>>>
>>> AjaMa
>>> Epsilon
>>> Erdos
>>> Euclid
>>> Euler
>>> Gauss
>>> JAML
>>
>>
>> This choice:
>>
>>> Math
>>
>>
>> can potentially lead to legal and/or technical problems:
>>   * name of the JAR will basically be "math.jar", easily clashing
>> with local toolboxes (also named without much imagination)
>
>
> apache-math-x.y.z.jar
>
> will fix the name clashing trivially.
>
>
>>   * name of the project will obviously be impossible to protect

The name of the project will be

Apache Math

which *is* protectable.

This is no different from many other ASF projects which use common
names that already have meanings.

There are very few ASF projects whose bare names are protectable/protected

>>
>>> MathBlocks
>>> MathComponents (or Math Components)
>>> Mathelactica
>>> MathModules
>>> Megginson
>>> modMath
>>> Nash
>>> Newton
>>> Pythagoras
>>
>>
>> The second objection of course holds for many names in the list.
>> We'd better follow Bertrand's suggestion.
>>
>>
>> Gilles
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Re: [Math] Technical objection (Was: [math] [POLL] new TLP name)

[Ate Douma]

On 2016-02-02 12:43, Gilles wrote:

On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 10:06:40 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:

Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
choice for the name.

AjaMa
Epsilon
Erdos
Euclid
Euler
Gauss
JAML


This choice:


Math


can potentially lead to legal and/or technical problems:
  * name of the JAR will basically be "math.jar", easily clashing
with local toolboxes (also named without much imagination)


apache-math-x.y.z.jar

will fix the name clashing trivially.


  * name of the project will obviously be impossible to protect


MathBlocks
MathComponents (or Math Components)
Mathelactica
MathModules
Megginson
modMath
Nash
Newton
Pythagoras


The second objection of course holds for many names in the list.
We'd better follow Bertrand's suggestion.


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[Math] Technical objection (Was: [math] [POLL] new TLP name)

[Gilles]

On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 10:06:40 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:

Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
choice for the name.

AjaMa
Epsilon
Erdos
Euclid
Euler
Gauss
JAML


This choice:


Math


can potentially lead to legal and/or technical problems:
 * name of the JAR will basically be "math.jar", easily clashing
   with local toolboxes (also named without much imagination)
 * name of the project will obviously be impossible to protect


MathBlocks
MathComponents (or Math Components)
Mathelactica
MathModules
Megginson
modMath
Nash
Newton
Pythagoras


The second objection of course holds for many names in the list.
We'd better follow Bertrand's suggestion.


Gilles


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Re: [math] [POLL] new TLP name

[Damjan Jovanovic]

Apache Math

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 7:06 PM, Phil Steitz  wrote:

> Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
> for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
> respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
> tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
> the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
> will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
> runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
> choice for the name.
>
> AjaMa
> Epsilon
> Erdos
> Euclid
> Euler
> Gauss
> JAML
> Math
> MathBlocks
> MathComponents (or Math Components)
> Mathelactica
> MathModules
> Megginson
> modMath
> Nash
> Newton
> Pythagoras
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Re: [math] [POLL] new TLP name

[Christopher]

Apache Math.

On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 12:30 AM, Otmar Ertl  wrote:
> Apache Math
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 11:42 PM, Ole Ersoy  wrote:
>> Apache Epsilon
>>
>>
>> On 02/01/2016 03:55 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>>>
>>> Apache Epsilon
>>>
>>>
 On Feb 1, 2016, at 12:06 PM, Phil Steitz  wrote:

 Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
 for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
 respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
 tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
 the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
 will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
 runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
 choice for the name.

 AjaMa
 Epsilon
 Erdos
 Euclid
 Euler
 Gauss
 JAML
 Math
 MathBlocks
 MathComponents (or Math Components)
 Mathelactica
 MathModules
 Megginson
 modMath
 Nash
 Newton
 Pythagoras





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Re: [math] [POLL] new TLP name

[Otmar Ertl]

Apache Math

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 11:42 PM, Ole Ersoy  wrote:
> Apache Epsilon
>
>
> On 02/01/2016 03:55 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>>
>> Apache Epsilon
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 1, 2016, at 12:06 PM, Phil Steitz  wrote:
>>>
>>> Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
>>> for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
>>> respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
>>> tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
>>> the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
>>> will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
>>> runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
>>> choice for the name.
>>>
>>> AjaMa
>>> Epsilon
>>> Erdos
>>> Euclid
>>> Euler
>>> Gauss
>>> JAML
>>> Math
>>> MathBlocks
>>> MathComponents (or Math Components)
>>> Mathelactica
>>> MathModules
>>> Megginson
>>> modMath
>>> Nash
>>> Newton
>>> Pythagoras
>>>
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Re: [math] [POLL] new TLP name

[Ole Ersoy]

Apache Epsilon

On 02/01/2016 03:55 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

Apache Epsilon



On Feb 1, 2016, at 12:06 PM, Phil Steitz  wrote:

Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
choice for the name.

AjaMa
Epsilon
Erdos
Euclid
Euler
Gauss
JAML
Math
MathBlocks
MathComponents (or Math Components)
Mathelactica
MathModules
Megginson
modMath
Nash
Newton
Pythagoras





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Re: [math] [POLL] new TLP name

[Bruce Johnson]

Apache Epsilon


> On Feb 1, 2016, at 12:06 PM, Phil Steitz  wrote:
> 
> Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
> for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
> respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
> tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
> the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
> will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
> runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
> choice for the name.
> 
> AjaMa
> Epsilon
> Erdos
> Euclid
> Euler
> Gauss
> JAML
> Math
> MathBlocks
> MathComponents (or Math Components)
> Mathelactica
> MathModules
> Megginson
> modMath
> Nash
> Newton
> Pythagoras
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Re: [math] [POLL] new TLP name

[Gilles]

On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 10:06:40 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:

Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
choice for the name.



AjaMa


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Re: [math] [POLL] new TLP name

[Evan Ward]

I would prefer Apache Epsilon or Apache Math.

-Evan

On 02/01/2016 12:06 PM, Phil Steitz wrote:
> Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
> for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
> respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
> tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
> the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
> will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
> runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
> choice for the name.
>
> AjaMa
> Epsilon
> Erdos
> Euclid
> Euler
> Gauss
> JAML
> Math
> MathBlocks
> MathComponents (or Math Components)
> Mathelactica
> MathModules
> Megginson
> modMath
> Nash
> Newton
> Pythagoras
>
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Re: [math] [POLL] new TLP name

[Bruno P. Kinoshita]

Math

Bruno
 
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Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
runoff poll among the top choices.  Please respond with your top
choice for the name.

AjaMa
Epsilon
Erdos
Euclid
Euler
Gauss
JAML
Math
MathBlocks
MathComponents (or Math Components)
Mathelactica
MathModules
Megginson
modMath
Nash
Newton
Pythagoras





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Re: [math] [POLL] new TLP name

[Luc Maisonobe]

Le 01/02/2016 18:06, Phil Steitz a écrit :
> Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
> for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
> respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
> tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
> the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
> will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
> runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
> choice for the name.
> 
> AjaMa
> Epsilon
> Erdos
> Euclid
> Euler
> Gauss
> JAML
> Math
> MathBlocks
> MathComponents (or Math Components)
> Mathelactica
> MathModules
> Megginson
> modMath
> Nash
> Newton
> Pythagoras

First choice:  Apache Epsilon
Second choice: Apache Math

Luc

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Re: [math] [POLL] new TLP name

[Gary Gregory]

Apache Math

Gary

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Phil Steitz  wrote:

> Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
> for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
> respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
> tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
> the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
> will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
> runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
> choice for the name.
>
> AjaMa
> Epsilon
> Erdos
> Euclid
> Euler
> Gauss
> JAML
> Math
> MathBlocks
> MathComponents (or Math Components)
> Mathelactica
> MathModules
> Megginson
> modMath
> Nash
> Newton
> Pythagoras
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Re: [math] [POLL] new TLP name

[norm]

Phil Steitz  writes:
>Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
>for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
>respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
>tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
>the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
>will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
>runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
>choice for the name.
>
>AjaMa
>Epsilon
>Erdos
>Euclid
>Euler
>Gauss
>JAML
>Math
>MathBlocks
>MathComponents (or Math Components)
>Mathelactica
>MathModules
>Megginson
>modMath
>Nash
>Newton
>Pythagoras

Math

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Re: [math] [POLL] new TLP name

[Emmanuel Bourg]

Apache Math

Le 1/02/2016 18:06, Phil Steitz a écrit :
> Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
> for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
> respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
> tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
> the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
> will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
> runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
> choice for the name.
> 
> AjaMa
> Epsilon
> Erdos
> Euclid
> Euler
> Gauss
> JAML
> Math
> MathBlocks
> MathComponents (or Math Components)
> Mathelactica
> MathModules
> Megginson
> modMath
> Nash
> Newton
> Pythagoras
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Re: [math] [POLL] new TLP name

[James Carman]

Apache Math

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 12:06 PM Phil Steitz  wrote:

> Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
> for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
> respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
> tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
> the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
> will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
> runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
> choice for the name.
>
> AjaMa
> Epsilon
> Erdos
> Euclid
> Euler
> Gauss
> JAML
> Math
> MathBlocks
> MathComponents (or Math Components)
> Mathelactica
> MathModules
> Megginson
> modMath
> Nash
> Newton
> Pythagoras
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[math] [POLL] new TLP name

[Phil Steitz]

Please select your top choice among the following suggested names
for the new [math]-based TLP.  All are welcome and encouraged to
respond.  This POLL will be open for 72 hours, at which time two
tallies will be presented:  one among those who have volunteered for
the new PMC and a second among all respondents.  Hopefully, one name
will emerge as consensus winner.  If not, I will kick off another
runoff poll among the top choices.   Please respond with your top
choice for the name.

AjaMa
Epsilon
Erdos
Euclid
Euler
Gauss
JAML
Math
MathBlocks
MathComponents (or Math Components)
Mathelactica
MathModules
Megginson
modMath
Nash
Newton
Pythagoras





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