Re: [all, site] Logo Update?

2023-12-26 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hello.

Le mar. 26 déc. 2023 à 03:52, Rob Tompkins  a écrit :
>
> Hey all,
>
> Should we use the more modern feather with the same logo (-1, -0, +0, +1)? 
> Happy to give a shot at creating the same logo with the new feather.

A logo with the "new" ASF graphics has been there for years:
  https://apache.org/logos/#commons

When the discussion occurred (IIRC there was a ML thread too),
very few provided an opinion:
  https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMMONSSITE-86
Hence, the main "Commons" page was not updated.

Logo was updated for some components:
  https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-math
  https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-rng
  https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-numbers
  https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-geometry
  https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-statistics

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Re: [all, site] Logo Update?

2023-12-26 Thread Gary Gregory
It would be even nicer if the two feather styles matched 😀

Gary

On Tue, Dec 26, 2023, 7:14 AM Gilles Sadowski  wrote:

> Hello.
>
> Le mar. 26 déc. 2023 à 03:52, Rob Tompkins  a écrit :
> >
> > Hey all,
> >
> > Should we use the more modern feather with the same logo (-1, -0, +0,
> +1)? Happy to give a shot at creating the same logo with the new feather.
>
> A logo with the "new" ASF graphics has been there for years:
>   https://apache.org/logos/#commons
>
> When the discussion occurred (IIRC there was a ML thread too),
> very few provided an opinion:
>   https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMMONSSITE-86
> Hence, the main "Commons" page was not updated.
>
> Logo was updated for some components:
>   https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-math
>   https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-rng
>   https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-numbers
>   https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-geometry
>   https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-statistics
>
> Regards,
> Gilles
>
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Re: [all, site] Logo Update?

2023-12-26 Thread Rob Tompkins
Good call. I’m going to add one to the list and then put the logos up for a 
[VOTE] to the community to choose which (by ordering them most preferred to 
least).

Cheers,
-Rob

> On Dec 26, 2023, at 7:51 AM, Gary Gregory  wrote:
> 
> It would be even nicer if the two feather styles matched 😀
> 
> Gary
> 
> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023, 7:14 AM Gilles Sadowski  wrote:
> 
>> Hello.
>> 
>> Le mar. 26 déc. 2023 à 03:52, Rob Tompkins  a écrit :
>>> 
>>> Hey all,
>>> 
>>> Should we use the more modern feather with the same logo (-1, -0, +0,
>> +1)? Happy to give a shot at creating the same logo with the new feather.
>> 
>> A logo with the "new" ASF graphics has been there for years:
>>  https://apache.org/logos/#commons
>> 
>> When the discussion occurred (IIRC there was a ML thread too),
>> very few provided an opinion:
>>  https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMMONSSITE-86
>> Hence, the main "Commons" page was not updated.
>> 
>> Logo was updated for some components:
>>  https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-math
>>  https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-rng
>>  https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-numbers
>>  https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-geometry
>>  https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-statistics
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Gilles
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Re: [all, site] Logo Update?

2023-12-26 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Le mar. 26 déc. 2023 à 16:12, Rob Tompkins  a écrit :
>
> Good call. I’m going to add one to the list and then put the logos up for a 
> [VOTE] to the community to choose which (by ordering them most preferred to 
> least).

Well, a good logo is not just a question of preference; e.g. there may be
some design guidelines which not everyone is aware of, or pay attention
to, or otherwise finds appealing.

More importantly the ASF board has decided (AFAIK) to again change
the "graphical identity" of the foundation; so this probably not the right
time for reviving such discussion.

Regards,
Gilles

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Re: [all, site] Logo Update?

2023-12-26 Thread Rob Tompkins
If that’s indeed the case, then wouldn’t the easiest thing be to simply 
incorporate the feather into the current logo design as a quick update while we 
wait for the new branding?

-Rob

> On Dec 26, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Gilles Sadowski  wrote:
> 
> Le mar. 26 déc. 2023 à 16:12, Rob Tompkins  a écrit :
>> 
>> Good call. I’m going to add one to the list and then put the logos up for a 
>> [VOTE] to the community to choose which (by ordering them most preferred to 
>> least).
> 
> Well, a good logo is not just a question of preference; e.g. there may be
> some design guidelines which not everyone is aware of, or pay attention
> to, or otherwise finds appealing.
> 
> More importantly the ASF board has decided (AFAIK) to again change
> the "graphical identity" of the foundation; so this probably not the right
> time for reviving such discussion.
> 
> Regards,
> Gilles
> 
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Re: [all, site] Logo Update?

2023-12-26 Thread Gary Gregory
I'm OK with moving this experiment along here.

Gary

On Tue, Dec 26, 2023, 10:31 AM Rob Tompkins  wrote:

> If that’s indeed the case, then wouldn’t the easiest thing be to simply
> incorporate the feather into the current logo design as a quick update
> while we wait for the new branding?
>
> -Rob
>
> > On Dec 26, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Gilles Sadowski 
> wrote:
> >
> > Le mar. 26 déc. 2023 à 16:12, Rob Tompkins  a écrit
> :
> >>
> >> Good call. I’m going to add one to the list and then put the logos up
> for a [VOTE] to the community to choose which (by ordering them most
> preferred to least).
> >
> > Well, a good logo is not just a question of preference; e.g. there may be
> > some design guidelines which not everyone is aware of, or pay attention
> > to, or otherwise finds appealing.
> >
> > More importantly the ASF board has decided (AFAIK) to again change
> > the "graphical identity" of the foundation; so this probably not the
> right
> > time for reviving such discussion.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Gilles
> >
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Re: [all, site] Logo Update?

2023-12-26 Thread Gary Gregory
TBH, all that I'm (personally) looking for is for:

- Example: https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-io/
- https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-io/images/commons-logo.png
to use the modern feather and
- https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-io/index.html to be like
https://apache.org/logos/#commons but with the added component name,
like IO

Gary

On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 10:35 AM Gary Gregory  wrote:
>
> I'm OK with moving this experiment along here.
>
> Gary
>
> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023, 10:31 AM Rob Tompkins  wrote:
>>
>> If that’s indeed the case, then wouldn’t the easiest thing be to simply 
>> incorporate the feather into the current logo design as a quick update while 
>> we wait for the new branding?
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>> > On Dec 26, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Gilles Sadowski  wrote:
>> >
>> > Le mar. 26 déc. 2023 à 16:12, Rob Tompkins  a écrit :
>> >>
>> >> Good call. I’m going to add one to the list and then put the logos up for 
>> >> a [VOTE] to the community to choose which (by ordering them most 
>> >> preferred to least).
>> >
>> > Well, a good logo is not just a question of preference; e.g. there may be
>> > some design guidelines which not everyone is aware of, or pay attention
>> > to, or otherwise finds appealing.
>> >
>> > More importantly the ASF board has decided (AFAIK) to again change
>> > the "graphical identity" of the foundation; so this probably not the right
>> > time for reviving such discussion.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Gilles
>> >
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Re: [all, site] Logo Update?

2023-12-26 Thread Gary Gregory
Tip: copy and edit the SVG, probably using... Gimp?

Gary

On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 10:40 AM Gary Gregory  wrote:
>
> TBH, all that I'm (personally) looking for is for:
>
> - Example: https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-io/
> - https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-io/images/commons-logo.png
> to use the modern feather and
> - https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-io/index.html to be like
> https://apache.org/logos/#commons but with the added component name,
> like IO
>
> Gary
>
> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 10:35 AM Gary Gregory  wrote:
> >
> > I'm OK with moving this experiment along here.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 26, 2023, 10:31 AM Rob Tompkins  wrote:
> >>
> >> If that’s indeed the case, then wouldn’t the easiest thing be to simply 
> >> incorporate the feather into the current logo design as a quick update 
> >> while we wait for the new branding?
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >>
> >> > On Dec 26, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Gilles Sadowski  
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Le mar. 26 déc. 2023 à 16:12, Rob Tompkins  a écrit :
> >> >>
> >> >> Good call. I’m going to add one to the list and then put the logos up 
> >> >> for a [VOTE] to the community to choose which (by ordering them most 
> >> >> preferred to least).
> >> >
> >> > Well, a good logo is not just a question of preference; e.g. there may be
> >> > some design guidelines which not everyone is aware of, or pay attention
> >> > to, or otherwise finds appealing.
> >> >
> >> > More importantly the ASF board has decided (AFAIK) to again change
> >> > the "graphical identity" of the foundation; so this probably not the 
> >> > right
> >> > time for reviving such discussion.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Gilles
> >> >
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Re: [all, site] Logo Update?

2023-12-26 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Le mar. 26 déc. 2023 à 16:31, Rob Tompkins  a écrit :
>
> If that’s indeed the case, then wouldn’t the easiest thing be to simply 
> incorporate the feather into the current logo design as a quick update while 
> we wait for the new branding?

The first link which I pointed contains an image where this was
done (i.e. incorporate the new feather in the original "Commons"
logo design, modulo the remark make by Emmanuel Bourg at the
time concerning the URL).

Regards,
Gilles

>
> -Rob
>
> > On Dec 26, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Gilles Sadowski  wrote:
> >
> > Le mar. 26 déc. 2023 à 16:12, Rob Tompkins  a écrit :
> >>
> >> Good call. I’m going to add one to the list and then put the logos up for 
> >> a [VOTE] to the community to choose which (by ordering them most preferred 
> >> to least).
> >
> > Well, a good logo is not just a question of preference; e.g. there may be
> > some design guidelines which not everyone is aware of, or pay attention
> > to, or otherwise finds appealing.
> >
> > More importantly the ASF board has decided (AFAIK) to again change
> > the "graphical identity" of the foundation; so this probably not the right
> > time for reviving such discussion.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Gilles
> >
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Re: [all, site] Logo Update?

2023-12-26 Thread Gilles Sadowski
It's a quick change to update the main page with the current
"graphical identity" of the ASF (new feather).  [I.e. just use the
logo which the ASF main site is using.]
Not so much to modify (using Gimp) each component's logo.
And something that will need redoing in a few months from
now...

Le mar. 26 déc. 2023 à 16:42, Gary Gregory  a écrit :
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> Tip: copy and edit the SVG, probably using... Gimp?
>
> Gary
>
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Re: [all, site] Logo Update?

2023-12-26 Thread Rob Tompkins
I have Adobe Creative Suite.

-Rob

> On Dec 26, 2023, at 10:50 AM, Gilles Sadowski  wrote:
> 
> It's a quick change to update the main page with the current
> "graphical identity" of the ASF (new feather).  [I.e. just use the
> logo which the ASF main site is using.]
> Not so much to modify (using Gimp) each component's logo.
> And something that will need redoing in a few months from
> now...
> 
> Le mar. 26 déc. 2023 à 16:42, Gary Gregory  a écrit :
>> 
>> Tip: copy and edit the SVG, probably using... Gimp?
>> 
>> Gary
>> 
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Re: [all, site] Logo Update?

2023-12-26 Thread Rob Tompkins
Thoughts?

-Rob



> On Dec 26, 2023, at 10:54 AM, Rob Tompkins  wrote:
> 
> I have Adobe Creative Suite.
> 
> -Rob
> 
>> On Dec 26, 2023, at 10:50 AM, Gilles Sadowski  wrote:
>> 
>> It's a quick change to update the main page with the current
>> "graphical identity" of the ASF (new feather).  [I.e. just use the
>> logo which the ASF main site is using.]
>> Not so much to modify (using Gimp) each component's logo.
>> And something that will need redoing in a few months from
>> now...
>> 
>> Le mar. 26 déc. 2023 à 16:42, Gary Gregory  a écrit :
>>> 
>>> Tip: copy and edit the SVG, probably using... Gimp?
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> 
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Re: [all, site] Logo Update?

2023-12-26 Thread Gary Gregory
Go for it IMO.

Gary

On Tue, Dec 26, 2023, 11:11 AM Rob Tompkins  wrote:

> Thoughts?
>
> -Rob
>
>
>
> > On Dec 26, 2023, at 10:54 AM, Rob Tompkins  wrote:
> >
> > I have Adobe Creative Suite.
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> >> On Dec 26, 2023, at 10:50 AM, Gilles Sadowski 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> It's a quick change to update the main page with the current
> >> "graphical identity" of the ASF (new feather).  [I.e. just use the
> >> logo which the ASF main site is using.]
> >> Not so much to modify (using Gimp) each component's logo.
> >> And something that will need redoing in a few months from
> >> now...
> >>
> >> Le mar. 26 déc. 2023 à 16:42, Gary Gregory  a
> écrit :
> >>>
> >>> Tip: copy and edit the SVG, probably using... Gimp?
> >>>
> >>> Gary
> >>>
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Re: [all, site] Logo Update?

2023-12-26 Thread Rob Tompkins
Cool…I’ll have to work on the sizing but I think we’re ready.

Cheers,
-Rob

> On Dec 26, 2023, at 12:42 PM, Gary Gregory  wrote:
> 
> Go for it IMO.
> 
> Gary
> 
> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023, 11:11 AM Rob Tompkins  wrote:
> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
>> -Rob
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 26, 2023, at 10:54 AM, Rob Tompkins  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have Adobe Creative Suite.
>>> 
>>> -Rob
>>> 
 On Dec 26, 2023, at 10:50 AM, Gilles Sadowski 
>> wrote:
 
 It's a quick change to update the main page with the current
 "graphical identity" of the ASF (new feather).  [I.e. just use the
 logo which the ASF main site is using.]
 Not so much to modify (using Gimp) each component's logo.
 And something that will need redoing in a few months from
 now...
 
 Le mar. 26 déc. 2023 à 16:42, Gary Gregory  a
>> écrit :
> 
> Tip: copy and edit the SVG, probably using... Gimp?
> 
> Gary
> 
>>> [...]
 
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