Re: [PR] link to main escalation docs [comdev-working-groups]
rbowen merged PR #9: URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/9 -- This is an automated message from the Apache Git Service. To respond to the message, please log on to GitHub and use the URL above to go to the specific comment. To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For queries about this service, please contact Infrastructure at: us...@infra.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
[PR] link to main escalation docs [comdev-working-groups]
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Re: [WG: Sharpeners] Propose: milder name
+1 for Advisor. Succinct and accurate. On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 at 18:59, Dave Fisher wrote: > > Hi - > > Thanks, Gary! > > I agree. Advisors is really good. A PMC, or even a single PMC member, can ask > for advice when they have doubts. and unsolicited advice can be ignored if > not concise and actionable. > > Best, > Dave > > > On Feb 18, 2024, at 8:19 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > Based on > > https://github.com/rbowen/comdev-working-groups/tree/main/wg-sharpeners#readme > > > > I read: > > > > - volunteers who come alongside a PMC to offer an outsider's > > perspective on the project, and advice to build their community. > > - subscribe to the project's mailing lists and mostly listen > > - do not have any authority over the PMC > > - All feedback must be a polite, positive, actionable suggestion, not > > merely a criticism or a "you're doing it wrong." You must suggest what > > the community should do, providing links to policy or best practice > > documents where applicable. Simply criticising is not welcome. > > > > All of this sounds to me like an advisory role where advisory is > > "having or consisting in the power to make recommendations but not to > > take action enforcing them."[1] > > So I'd go with "PMC Advisor". It's not cute or clever, it's even > > bland, but I understand it, ;-) > > > > Gary > > [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=define+advisory > > > > On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 4:08 PM Rich Bowen wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> On Feb 18, 2024, at 10:02 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > >>> > >>> I've never heard of someone being called a "sharpener"; I've used a > >>> knife sharpener and a pencil sharpener ;-) ... it feels like a stretch > >>> here. > >>> > >>> In general, I prefer names that simply describe intent instead of > >>> cuteness/cleverness, especially in an international context where I > >>> find it beneficial to use words that make sense if you have to look > >>> them up. > >> > >> Cool. Y’all come up with a name, and I’ll swap it out. > >> > >> > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >> > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: Regarding issues in CSS of apache dubbo Website
Hi Rashi, First of all welcome and thank you for your contribution. You can contact the Apache Dubbo developers at d...@dubbo.apache.org. I'm not part of their community but it seems they manage their website in Github as most of the projects currently do. You can create a ticket and pull request in the following repository [1]. Kr, Hans [1] https://github.com/apache/dubbo-website On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 at 20:33, Rashi arora wrote: > Hello Everyone i want to contribute to apache dubbo's website i.e > https://dubbo.apache.org/en/ > i want to fix the footer ! it can be my good first issue to open > source organisations aswell! > please let me know how i can contribute to the fixation of the website. > thanking you, > Rashi Arora > https://github.com/rashi12122001 >
Regarding issues in CSS of apache dubbo Website
Hello Everyone i want to contribute to apache dubbo's website i.e https://dubbo.apache.org/en/ i want to fix the footer ! it can be my good first issue to open source organisations aswell! please let me know how i can contribute to the fixation of the website. thanking you, Rashi Arora https://github.com/rashi12122001
Re: [WG: Sharpeners] Propose: milder name
Hi Gary, I like the name "Advisor" since to me it has no negative associations. By the way, in reviewing project board reports, I often see projects that recognize and report on areas of improvement, and that would welcome having an Advisor try to help them. Craig > On Feb 18, 2024, at 08:19, Gary Gregory wrote: > > Hi All, > > Based on > https://github.com/rbowen/comdev-working-groups/tree/main/wg-sharpeners#readme > > I read: > > - volunteers who come alongside a PMC to offer an outsider's > perspective on the project, and advice to build their community. > - subscribe to the project's mailing lists and mostly listen > - do not have any authority over the PMC > - All feedback must be a polite, positive, actionable suggestion, not > merely a criticism or a "you're doing it wrong." You must suggest what > the community should do, providing links to policy or best practice > documents where applicable. Simply criticising is not welcome. > > All of this sounds to me like an advisory role where advisory is > "having or consisting in the power to make recommendations but not to > take action enforcing them."[1] > So I'd go with "PMC Advisor". It's not cute or clever, it's even > bland, but I understand it, ;-) > > Gary > [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=define+advisory > > On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 4:08 PM Rich Bowen wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Feb 18, 2024, at 10:02 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: >>> >>> I've never heard of someone being called a "sharpener"; I've used a >>> knife sharpener and a pencil sharpener ;-) ... it feels like a stretch >>> here. >>> >>> In general, I prefer names that simply describe intent instead of >>> cuteness/cleverness, especially in an international context where I >>> find it beneficial to use words that make sense if you have to look >>> them up. >> >> Cool. Y’all come up with a name, and I’ll swap it out. >> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > Craig L Russell c...@apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: [WG: Sharpeners] Propose: milder name
Hi - Thanks, Gary! I agree. Advisors is really good. A PMC, or even a single PMC member, can ask for advice when they have doubts. and unsolicited advice can be ignored if not concise and actionable. Best, Dave > On Feb 18, 2024, at 8:19 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > Hi All, > > Based on > https://github.com/rbowen/comdev-working-groups/tree/main/wg-sharpeners#readme > > I read: > > - volunteers who come alongside a PMC to offer an outsider's > perspective on the project, and advice to build their community. > - subscribe to the project's mailing lists and mostly listen > - do not have any authority over the PMC > - All feedback must be a polite, positive, actionable suggestion, not > merely a criticism or a "you're doing it wrong." You must suggest what > the community should do, providing links to policy or best practice > documents where applicable. Simply criticising is not welcome. > > All of this sounds to me like an advisory role where advisory is > "having or consisting in the power to make recommendations but not to > take action enforcing them."[1] > So I'd go with "PMC Advisor". It's not cute or clever, it's even > bland, but I understand it, ;-) > > Gary > [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=define+advisory > > On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 4:08 PM Rich Bowen wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Feb 18, 2024, at 10:02 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: >>> >>> I've never heard of someone being called a "sharpener"; I've used a >>> knife sharpener and a pencil sharpener ;-) ... it feels like a stretch >>> here. >>> >>> In general, I prefer names that simply describe intent instead of >>> cuteness/cleverness, especially in an international context where I >>> find it beneficial to use words that make sense if you have to look >>> them up. >> >> Cool. Y’all come up with a name, and I’ll swap it out. >> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: [WG: Sharpeners] Propose: milder name
Hi All, Based on https://github.com/rbowen/comdev-working-groups/tree/main/wg-sharpeners#readme I read: - volunteers who come alongside a PMC to offer an outsider's perspective on the project, and advice to build their community. - subscribe to the project's mailing lists and mostly listen - do not have any authority over the PMC - All feedback must be a polite, positive, actionable suggestion, not merely a criticism or a "you're doing it wrong." You must suggest what the community should do, providing links to policy or best practice documents where applicable. Simply criticising is not welcome. All of this sounds to me like an advisory role where advisory is "having or consisting in the power to make recommendations but not to take action enforcing them."[1] So I'd go with "PMC Advisor". It's not cute or clever, it's even bland, but I understand it, ;-) Gary [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=define+advisory On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 4:08 PM Rich Bowen wrote: > > > > > On Feb 18, 2024, at 10:02 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > > > I've never heard of someone being called a "sharpener"; I've used a > > knife sharpener and a pencil sharpener ;-) ... it feels like a stretch > > here. > > > > In general, I prefer names that simply describe intent instead of > > cuteness/cleverness, especially in an international context where I > > find it beneficial to use words that make sense if you have to look > > them up. > > Cool. Y’all come up with a name, and I’ll swap it out. > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: [PR] People seem to hate the name. [comdev-working-groups]
rbowen merged PR #8: URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/8 -- This is an automated message from the Apache Git Service. To respond to the message, please log on to GitHub and use the URL above to go to the specific comment. To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For queries about this service, please contact Infrastructure at: us...@infra.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
[PR] People seem to hate the name. [comdev-working-groups]
rbowen opened a new pull request, #8: URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/8 (no comment) -- This is an automated message from the Apache Git Service. To respond to the message, please log on to GitHub and use the URL above to go to the specific comment. To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For queries about this service, please contact Infrastructure at: us...@infra.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: [WG: Sharpeners] Propose: milder name
> On Feb 18, 2024, at 10:02 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > I've never heard of someone being called a "sharpener"; I've used a > knife sharpener and a pencil sharpener ;-) ... it feels like a stretch > here. > > In general, I prefer names that simply describe intent instead of > cuteness/cleverness, especially in an international context where I > find it beneficial to use words that make sense if you have to look > them up. Cool. Y’all come up with a name, and I’ll swap it out. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: [WG: Sharpeners] Propose: milder name
I've never heard of someone being called a "sharpener"; I've used a knife sharpener and a pencil sharpener ;-) ... it feels like a stretch here. In general, I prefer names that simply describe intent instead of cuteness/cleverness, especially in an international context where I find it beneficial to use words that make sense if you have to look them up. 2c, Gary On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 12:33 PM Rich Bowen wrote: > > I'm not tied to either the name or the alliteration. I thought it was cute. > I honestly don't see the antagonistic overtones, but I'll take your word > for it. > > I also don't relish the naming debate. I suppose every name has > implications for someone. > > I'll defer to whatever folks want to call it. Although with all of the > caveats and objections I'm starting to wonder if anyone see the value in > this that I do. > > Rich > > On Sat, Feb 17, 2024, 19:13 sebb wrote: > > > Sorry, but I find the name 'Sharpeners' antagonistic and aggressive. > > To me it sounds like a group gearing up for a fight. > > > > Having names that are alliterative is all very well, but I don't think > > it should be at the expense of a name that has negative connotations. > > > > I am wary of starting a bike shed argument, but the current name is > > not appropriate in my view. > > > > I wonder if Shapers would do? > > Just a suggestion. > > > > Sebb > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: [WG: Sharpeners] Propose: milder name
I'm not tied to either the name or the alliteration. I thought it was cute. I honestly don't see the antagonistic overtones, but I'll take your word for it. I also don't relish the naming debate. I suppose every name has implications for someone. I'll defer to whatever folks want to call it. Although with all of the caveats and objections I'm starting to wonder if anyone see the value in this that I do. Rich On Sat, Feb 17, 2024, 19:13 sebb wrote: > Sorry, but I find the name 'Sharpeners' antagonistic and aggressive. > To me it sounds like a group gearing up for a fight. > > Having names that are alliterative is all very well, but I don't think > it should be at the expense of a name that has negative connotations. > > I am wary of starting a bike shed argument, but the current name is > not appropriate in my view. > > I wonder if Shapers would do? > Just a suggestion. > > Sebb > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >
Re: [WG: Sharpeners] Propose: milder name
> On 18 Feb 2024, at 01:13, sebb wrote: > > Sorry, but I find the name 'Sharpeners' antagonistic and aggressive. > To me it sounds like a group gearing up for a fight. > > Having names that are alliterative is all very well, but I don't think > it should be at the expense of a name that has negative connotations. > > I am wary of starting a bike shed argument, but the current name is > not appropriate in my view. > > I wonder if Shapers would do? > Just a suggestion. FWIIW - to my non-native ear - Sharpeners comes across as 'so' antagonistic that it nearly negates the good the role could bring. Even Shapers is a bit on the strong side. Helpers, Ushers, Coaching, Cleaner, Chaperon, Dragoman, Polishing, Refining, Assisting, Shepards, herder, grazier, guide, usher, consierge --- happy to leave this to native speakers :) Dw - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
