Re: Serve vs. opening an HTML file in the browser
Do you get the prompt's for the calls to native? If you do press cancel which will should allow things to boot up. If not try opening your browser to *http://localhost:4400/ ?enableRipple=cordova-3.0.0 http://emulate.phonegap.com/#* On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Ray Camden rayca...@adobe.com wrote: That's the thing - I can't get Ripple to load. I get the console.log infinite recursion thing I've gotten with PG for a while now. I literally can't get to a point where any HTML shows and the extension can take over. On 9/9/13 5:23 PM, Gord Tanner gtan...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, got pulled off on some other stuff: Lets make sure you are not running an old copy of ripple: cordova create Baz cordova platform add android cordova prepare cd incubator-ripple jake ./bin/ripple emulate --path ../Baz/platforms/android/assets/www/ Ensure that you have cordova 3.0.0 selected as the platform.
Re: Serve vs. opening an HTML file in the browser
That's the thing - I can't get Ripple to load. I get the console.log infinite recursion thing I've gotten with PG for a while now. I literally can't get to a point where any HTML shows and the extension can take over. On 9/9/13 5:23 PM, Gord Tanner gtan...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, got pulled off on some other stuff: Lets make sure you are not running an old copy of ripple: cordova create Baz cordova platform add android cordova prepare cd incubator-ripple jake ./bin/ripple emulate --path ../Baz/platforms/android/assets/www/ Ensure that you have cordova 3.0.0 selected as the platform.
Re: Serve vs. opening an HTML file in the browser
I can confirm it works. :) Any way to bypass those alerts? (To be clear, it is easy enough for me to do, but I worry about the folks new to Ripple.) On 9/10/13 9:17 AM, Gord Tanner gtan...@gmail.com wrote: Do you get the prompt's for the calls to native? If you do press cancel which will should allow things to boot up. If not try opening your browser to *http://localhost:4400/ ?enableRipple=cordova-3.0.0 http://emulate.phonegap.com/#* On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Ray Camden rayca...@adobe.com wrote: That's the thing - I can't get Ripple to load. I get the console.log infinite recursion thing I've gotten with PG for a while now. I literally can't get to a point where any HTML shows and the extension can take over. On 9/9/13 5:23 PM, Gord Tanner gtan...@gmail.com wrote:
Re: Serve vs. opening an HTML file in the browser
That is something I am working on in my branch ;) On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Ray Camden rayca...@adobe.com wrote: I can confirm it works. :) Any way to bypass those alerts? (To be clear, it is easy enough for me to do, but I worry about the folks new to Ripple.) On 9/10/13 9:17 AM, Gord Tanner gtan...@gmail.com wrote: Do you get the prompt's for the calls to native? If you do press cancel which will should allow things to boot up. If not try opening your browser to *http://localhost:4400/ ?enableRipple=cordova-3.0.0 http://emulate.phonegap.com/#* On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Ray Camden rayca...@adobe.com wrote: That's the thing - I can't get Ripple to load. I get the console.log infinite recursion thing I've gotten with PG for a while now. I literally can't get to a point where any HTML shows and the extension can take over. On 9/9/13 5:23 PM, Gord Tanner gtan...@gmail.com wrote:
Re: Serve vs. opening an HTML file in the browser
Ok - so anything else I can test - or just chill for now? On 9/10/13 10:00 AM, Gord Tanner gtan...@gmail.com wrote: That is something I am working on in my branch ;) On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Ray Camden rayca...@adobe.com wrote: I can confirm it works. :) Any way to bypass those alerts? (To be clear, it is easy enough for me to do, but I worry about the folks new to Ripple.)
Re: Serve vs. opening an HTML file in the browser
Hey Gord - just checking in. If you've been too busy to return to this - sorry - but if you missed my messages - let me know. On 9/3/13 12:30 PM, Gord Tanner gtan...@gmail.com wrote: You will need to run: ripple emulate --path /path/to/cordova/project/platform/android/assets/www Let me know if that works for you. On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Ray Camden rayca...@adobe.com wrote: Ok, I forgot to run cordova serve. I did, and then I get the same behavior as before. A prompt and then infinite console.log messages. On 9/2/13 8:32 PM, Gord Tanner gtan...@gmail.com wrote: Good news!
Re: Serve vs. opening an HTML file in the browser
Hey, got pulled off on some other stuff: Lets make sure you are not running an old copy of ripple: cordova create Baz cordova platform add android cordova prepare cd incubator-ripple jake ./bin/ripple emulate --path ../Baz/platforms/android/assets/www/ Ensure that you have cordova 3.0.0 selected as the platform. On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Ray Camden rayca...@adobe.com wrote: Hey Gord - just checking in. If you've been too busy to return to this - sorry - but if you missed my messages - let me know. On 9/3/13 12:30 PM, Gord Tanner gtan...@gmail.com wrote: You will need to run: ripple emulate --path /path/to/cordova/project/platform/android/assets/www Let me know if that works for you. On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Ray Camden rayca...@adobe.com wrote: Ok, I forgot to run cordova serve. I did, and then I get the same behavior as before. A prompt and then infinite console.log messages. On 9/2/13 8:32 PM, Gord Tanner gtan...@gmail.com wrote: Good news!
Re: Serve vs. opening an HTML file in the browser
Ok, I forgot to run cordova serve. I did, and then I get the same behavior as before. A prompt and then infinite console.log messages. On 9/2/13 8:32 PM, Gord Tanner gtan...@gmail.com wrote: Good news! I have a branch that is booting projects made with cordova 3.0 [1]. It is basically a stripped down platform and I tested it booting a project with android and ios. To run: cordova create Baz cordova platform add android cordova prepare ripple emulate (make sure you pick cordova 3.0.0) I was noticing that when I ran cordova serve android it wouldn't have the cordova_plugins.js file. Next Steps: - audit API's that are emulated and ensure they are up to spec (most are just using the 2.0 emulated versions) - reintegrate with cordova cli. Let me know if you take this for a test drive and have any problems. Gord
Re: Serve vs. opening an HTML file in the browser
Wildshot: localhost:4400/ripple ? On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Ray Camden rayca...@adobe.com wrote: Ok, forgive me if I did something stupid here. I cloned https://github.com/apache/incubator-ripple/tree/cordova-3.0. I did configure, jake, and then in Chrome I installed the unpacked extension. I chose pkg/chrome.extension. Of the three folders I assume that is the right one. I then made a new project as described below, and run ripple from /whereIclone/bin/ripple and I get this in terminal: INFO: Server instance running on: http://localhost:4400 INFO: CORS XHR proxy service on: http://localhost:4400/ripple/xhr_proxy INFO: JSONP XHR proxy service on: http://localhost:4400/ripple/jsonp_xhr_proxy I then tried to hit localhost:4400 and I get Cannot GET /. On 9/2/13 8:32 PM, Gord Tanner gtan...@gmail.com wrote: Good news! I have a branch that is booting projects made with cordova 3.0 [1]. It is basically a stripped down platform and I tested it booting a project with android and ios. To run: cordova create Baz cordova platform add android cordova prepare ripple emulate (make sure you pick cordova 3.0.0) I was noticing that when I ran cordova serve android it wouldn't have the cordova_plugins.js file. Next Steps: - audit API's that are emulated and ensure they are up to spec (most are just using the 2.0 emulated versions) - reintegrate with cordova cli. Let me know if you take this for a test drive and have any problems. Gord [1] - https://github.com/apache/incubator-ripple/tree/cordova-3.0 On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 6:21 AM, Ray Camden rayca...@adobe.com wrote: On 8/27/13 11:41 PM, Gord Tanner gtan...@gmail.com wrote: I think with some tweaks we could have ripple working on all platform cordova.js files again. I am going to need to version out a new platform for cordova to handle the updated hacks and overrides to boot each platform cleanly but doesn't seem like an impossible task. If you need someone to help test, just let me know. -rc
Re: Serve vs. opening an HTML file in the browser
No go. I mean the command ran of course, but upon opening it up in my browser, I got the same. On 9/3/13 12:30 PM, Gord Tanner gtan...@gmail.com wrote: You will need to run: ripple emulate --path /path/to/cordova/project/platform/android/assets/www Let me know if that works for you. On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Ray Camden rayca...@adobe.com wrote: Ok, I forgot to run cordova serve. I did, and then I get the same behavior as before. A prompt and then infinite console.log messages. On 9/2/13 8:32 PM, Gord Tanner gtan...@gmail.com wrote: Good news! I have a branch that is booting projects made with cordova 3.0 [1]. It is basically a stripped down platform and I tested it booting a project with android and ios.
Re: Serve vs. opening an HTML file in the browser
You will need to run: ripple emulate --path /path/to/cordova/project/platform/android/assets/www Let me know if that works for you. On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Ray Camden rayca...@adobe.com wrote: Ok, I forgot to run cordova serve. I did, and then I get the same behavior as before. A prompt and then infinite console.log messages. On 9/2/13 8:32 PM, Gord Tanner gtan...@gmail.com wrote: Good news! I have a branch that is booting projects made with cordova 3.0 [1]. It is basically a stripped down platform and I tested it booting a project with android and ios. To run: cordova create Baz cordova platform add android cordova prepare ripple emulate (make sure you pick cordova 3.0.0) I was noticing that when I ran cordova serve android it wouldn't have the cordova_plugins.js file. Next Steps: - audit API's that are emulated and ensure they are up to spec (most are just using the 2.0 emulated versions) - reintegrate with cordova cli. Let me know if you take this for a test drive and have any problems. Gord
Re: Serve vs. opening an HTML file in the browser
Good news! I have a branch that is booting projects made with cordova 3.0 [1]. It is basically a stripped down platform and I tested it booting a project with android and ios. To run: cordova create Baz cordova platform add android cordova prepare ripple emulate (make sure you pick cordova 3.0.0) I was noticing that when I ran cordova serve android it wouldn't have the cordova_plugins.js file. Next Steps: - audit API's that are emulated and ensure they are up to spec (most are just using the 2.0 emulated versions) - reintegrate with cordova cli. Let me know if you take this for a test drive and have any problems. Gord [1] - https://github.com/apache/incubator-ripple/tree/cordova-3.0 On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 6:21 AM, Ray Camden rayca...@adobe.com wrote: On 8/27/13 11:41 PM, Gord Tanner gtan...@gmail.com wrote: I think with some tweaks we could have ripple working on all platform cordova.js files again. I am going to need to version out a new platform for cordova to handle the updated hacks and overrides to boot each platform cleanly but doesn't seem like an impossible task. If you need someone to help test, just let me know. -rc
Re: Serve vs. opening an HTML file in the browser
On 8/27/13 11:41 PM, Gord Tanner gtan...@gmail.com wrote: I think with some tweaks we could have ripple working on all platform cordova.js files again. I am going to need to version out a new platform for cordova to handle the updated hacks and overrides to boot each platform cleanly but doesn't seem like an impossible task. If you need someone to help test, just let me know. -rc
Re: Serve vs. opening an HTML file in the browser
Dude, if you get this working, I won't buy you a beer. I'll go back and time and make it so that when beer was invented, it was called Gord, and your name would forever be synonymous with the best thing ever created. Not being able to use Ripple has been a real pain in my rear when doing presentations. I've even taken to just using a PG 2.6 files. On 8/27/13 1:16 PM, Gord Tanner gtan...@gmail.com wrote: I can take a look at this tonight. We may not be upto date with API support (not a lot of people working on the project right now) but we shouldn't crash. I will ping back on this list when I know more Gord
Re: Serve vs. opening an HTML file in the browser
I'll buy you a gord for that too! On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Ray Camden rayca...@adobe.com wrote: Dude, if you get this working, I won't buy you a beer. I'll go back and time and make it so that when beer was invented, it was called Gord, and your name would forever be synonymous with the best thing ever created. Not being able to use Ripple has been a real pain in my rear when doing presentations. I've even taken to just using a PG 2.6 files. On 8/27/13 1:16 PM, Gord Tanner gtan...@gmail.com wrote: I can take a look at this tonight. We may not be upto date with API support (not a lot of people working on the project right now) but we shouldn't crash. I will ping back on this list when I know more Gord
Re: Serve vs. opening an HTML file in the browser
Took a look at what was breaking ripple and it is a little more involved then I was hoping: - Android crashing the browser is caused by changes to how android sets up it's polling and how the modules all work together in the exec module. We used to have everything regarding polling rolled into the 'cordova/plugin/android/polling' module in which ripple would just override [1] to do nothing since ripple handled everything by replacing the entire exec function. I think this module was removed / moved to another place in 3.0 but there is much more thought to be done to get this working better. Switched over to using the cordova.ios.js file since it doesn't have this problem and ripple was able to boot and emulate geolocation fine. The plugins were not loading from cordova serve ios though (couldn't load cordova_plugins.js). I think with some tweaks we could have ripple working on all platform cordova.js files again. I am going to need to version out a new platform for cordova to handle the updated hacks and overrides to boot each platform cleanly but doesn't seem like an impossible task. [1] - https://github.com/apache/incubator-ripple/blob/master/lib/client/platform/cordova/2.0.0/spec.js#L81-L83 On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: I'll buy you a gord for that too! On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Ray Camden rayca...@adobe.com wrote: Dude, if you get this working, I won't buy you a beer. I'll go back and time and make it so that when beer was invented, it was called Gord, and your name would forever be synonymous with the best thing ever created. Not being able to use Ripple has been a real pain in my rear when doing presentations. I've even taken to just using a PG 2.6 files. On 8/27/13 1:16 PM, Gord Tanner gtan...@gmail.com wrote: I can take a look at this tonight. We may not be upto date with API support (not a lot of people working on the project right now) but we shouldn't crash. I will ping back on this list when I know more Gord
Re: Serve vs. opening an HTML file in the browser
So, how do I use it? cordova ripple? @ray: how is it broken? John M. Wargo On Aug 12, 2013, at 4:55 PM, Ray Camden rayca...@adobe.com wrote: Although please note Ripple has not worked since 2.6 (or 2.7 - I forget). I know (assume) folks know this, but I keep hoping it gets repaired soon. :) On 8/6/13 10:28 AM, Filip Maj f...@adobe.com wrote: Ripple does exactly what serve does but provides an in-browser emulator experience on top On 8/6/13 7:47 AM, Wargo, John john.wa...@sap.com wrote: Thanks. Another question, how is Ripple used with the CLI? John M. Wargo SAP | Charlotte, NC | USA Office: +1 704.321.0265 | Mobile: +1 704.249.7476 Email: john.wa...@sap.com Twitter: @johnwargo
Re: Serve vs. opening an HTML file in the browser
This is how we are using itŠ as a local server for remote devices to then attach for example chrome remote debugging. mw On 8/6/13 10:20 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: file:// urls come with a lot of restrictions in chrome in desktop, but that isn't the intended use case anyway. The intended purpose was to load the web assets from a mobile device instead of loading the bundled versions, so as to get rapid edit-refresh when not making changes to native bits. As Andrew points out 'serve' command will 'prepare' whenever necessary (grunt watch?) and also serve up files via local web server. The simple local alternative may be to just use your own local web server from the top level www/ dir, thus avoiding the need to prepare -- but it only works if and only if you do not use merges/, and none of your plugins have web assets (js-modules are fine I think?), which is not usually the situation. -Michal On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: One of the original motivations for cordova serve was for it to watch for changes and automatically run prepare for you. I don't think this is working right now though. On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com wrote: XHRs won't work by default on certain browsers such as Chrome. I don't think there are any other benefits. This restriction does not exist on a device. On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 1:13 PM, John M. Wargo jwarg...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone help me understand why I would want to use cordova serve rather than just loading the web content in the browser directly (through File - Open for example)? Is there something special that serve does that makes this approach better?
Re: Serve vs. opening an HTML file in the browser
Although please note Ripple has not worked since 2.6 (or 2.7 - I forget). I know (assume) folks know this, but I keep hoping it gets repaired soon. :) On 8/6/13 10:28 AM, Filip Maj f...@adobe.com wrote: Ripple does exactly what serve does but provides an in-browser emulator experience on top On 8/6/13 7:47 AM, Wargo, John john.wa...@sap.com wrote: Thanks. Another question, how is Ripple used with the CLI? John M. Wargo SAP | Charlotte, NC | USA Office: +1 704.321.0265 | Mobile: +1 704.249.7476 Email: john.wa...@sap.com Twitter: @johnwargo
Re: Serve vs. opening an HTML file in the browser
One of the original motivations for cordova serve was for it to watch for changes and automatically run prepare for you. I don't think this is working right now though. On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com wrote: XHRs won't work by default on certain browsers such as Chrome. I don't think there are any other benefits. This restriction does not exist on a device. On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 1:13 PM, John M. Wargo jwarg...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone help me understand why I would want to use cordova serve rather than just loading the web content in the browser directly (through File - Open for example)? Is there something special that serve does that makes this approach better?
Re: Serve vs. opening an HTML file in the browser
file:// urls come with a lot of restrictions in chrome in desktop, but that isn't the intended use case anyway. The intended purpose was to load the web assets from a mobile device instead of loading the bundled versions, so as to get rapid edit-refresh when not making changes to native bits. As Andrew points out 'serve' command will 'prepare' whenever necessary (grunt watch?) and also serve up files via local web server. The simple local alternative may be to just use your own local web server from the top level www/ dir, thus avoiding the need to prepare -- but it only works if and only if you do not use merges/, and none of your plugins have web assets (js-modules are fine I think?), which is not usually the situation. -Michal On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: One of the original motivations for cordova serve was for it to watch for changes and automatically run prepare for you. I don't think this is working right now though. On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com wrote: XHRs won't work by default on certain browsers such as Chrome. I don't think there are any other benefits. This restriction does not exist on a device. On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 1:13 PM, John M. Wargo jwarg...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone help me understand why I would want to use cordova serve rather than just loading the web content in the browser directly (through File - Open for example)? Is there something special that serve does that makes this approach better?
RE: Serve vs. opening an HTML file in the browser
Thanks. Another question, how is Ripple used with the CLI? John M. Wargo SAP | Charlotte, NC | USA Office: +1 704.321.0265 | Mobile: +1 704.249.7476 Email: john.wa...@sap.com Twitter: @johnwargo -Original Message- From: mmo...@google.com [mailto:mmo...@google.com] On Behalf Of Michal Mocny Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 10:21 AM To: dev Subject: Re: Serve vs. opening an HTML file in the browser file:// urls come with a lot of restrictions in chrome in desktop, but that isn't the intended use case anyway. The intended purpose was to load the web assets from a mobile device instead of loading the bundled versions, so as to get rapid edit-refresh when not making changes to native bits. As Andrew points out 'serve' command will 'prepare' whenever necessary (grunt watch?) and also serve up files via local web server. The simple local alternative may be to just use your own local web server from the top level www/ dir, thus avoiding the need to prepare -- but it only works if and only if you do not use merges/, and none of your plugins have web assets (js-modules are fine I think?), which is not usually the situation. -Michal On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: One of the original motivations for cordova serve was for it to watch for changes and automatically run prepare for you. I don't think this is working right now though. On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com wrote: XHRs won't work by default on certain browsers such as Chrome. I don't think there are any other benefits. This restriction does not exist on a device. On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 1:13 PM, John M. Wargo jwarg...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone help me understand why I would want to use cordova serve rather than just loading the web content in the browser directly (through File - Open for example)? Is there something special that serve does that makes this approach better?
Serve vs. opening an HTML file in the browser
Can someone help me understand why I would want to use cordova serve rather than just loading the web content in the browser directly (through File - Open for example)? Is there something special that serve does that makes this approach better?
Re: Serve vs. opening an HTML file in the browser
XHRs won't work by default on certain browsers such as Chrome. I don't think there are any other benefits. This restriction does not exist on a device. On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 1:13 PM, John M. Wargo jwarg...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone help me understand why I would want to use cordova serve rather than just loading the web content in the browser directly (through File - Open for example)? Is there something special that serve does that makes this approach better?
